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2 Great Vocalists vs. 1 Vocalist & a Tasty Lead Guitarist

Roger Tessier
October 18th, 2011, 07:17 PM
I have an opportunity to set up a new band that will either consits of two (2) really, really good lead vocalists or one (1) good lead vocalist and a non-singing lead guitarist that is really, really good.

I like the two vocalist setup because the Bassist also sings some lead and Back Up and the idea of three-part harmonies excites my Tele. Can you say CSN&Y?

However, that puts me in the Lead guitar position and my skills are passable (eg: I can nail the lead to SOMETHING by The Beatles but I need a lot of polish to get SUNSHINE OF YOUR LOVE down pat).

I really want to work with another strong singer but don't want the musical unit to be less than stellar also.

Woodshed time?

McGlamRock
October 18th, 2011, 09:03 PM
Bring em both by on different nights for "auditions." Then see which band configuration you like best.

Tim Armstrong
October 18th, 2011, 09:33 PM
I play in a band with a great singer and three pretty darn good singers, and one really great guitarist. Folks like the hot guitar playing, but they go totally crazy for the singer. It's hard for us instrumentalists to admit this, but MOST folks really don't care, as long as we cover the parts. It's ALL about the singer...

Tim

String Tree
October 18th, 2011, 10:24 PM
There are always more gigs for the band that sings well.
The General (paying) public wants to hear a good vocalist.

Having two good vocalists can open a lot of doors.

The more you play out, all the better for your Lead chops.

Old Cane
October 19th, 2011, 11:22 AM
"they go totally crazy for the singer"

Tim nails it. They also go for the drummer but it's usually only if they like dumb, homeless, unreliable guys.

kplamann
October 19th, 2011, 11:29 AM
Singers first, absolutely. Only guitar players really care about guitar players :lol:

Oh, and I should think "Something" is much more challenging to play right than "Sunshine Of Your Love" ...

Roger Tessier
October 19th, 2011, 12:19 PM
Oh, and I should think "Something" is much more challenging to play right than "Sunshine Of Your Love" ...

Maybe I'm just underestimating my playing skills ~ but since I got my Tele , it's improved!

Paul in Colorado
October 19th, 2011, 01:53 PM
+1 on what Tim said. Great vocals are magic. Especially great harmonies.

Skub
October 19th, 2011, 01:55 PM
It's hard for us instrumentalists to admit this, but MOST folks really don't care, as long as we cover the parts. It's ALL about the singer...

Tim

Dat troo,you can obsess about tone and technique 'til the end of time,only other guitar players listen and none of them dance or ask you for a goodnight kiss.

Thank god. :lol:

Alex M
October 19th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Great vocals are magic. Especially great harmonies.

+1 again!

Kingpin
October 19th, 2011, 10:55 PM
Great vocals are what separates the top-tier bands from the average ones.

String Tree
October 19th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Maybe I'm just underestimating my playing skills ~ but since I got my Tele , it's improved!

Sunshine of Your Love - Nail the first part of the solo, stay melodic through the rest, finish with something that leads back in to the melody line.
People will dig it.

Sounds like the kind of gig you could make leave your own personal, musical signature on.

musicmatty
October 19th, 2011, 11:23 PM
Certainly having more than one vocalist is ideal...but there are other factors to consider as well. Whatever combo gives off the best vibes, is probably the answer :wink:

INFANT
October 20th, 2011, 12:14 AM
I'm in a band with 4 really good vocalists, myself included. I consider myself a fairly good lead player but nothing great. Like someone said earlier, I start the solos off like the original and then go off on my own until I fold back into the tune. Sounds really good but I'll tell you that when we are doing some Eagles tunes with 4 part harmonies, I can play a broomstick and no one would even notice. We also have horns in the band allowing us to cover Chicago and old R&B tunes. Combine the horns and harmonies, the people don't even hear the guitar or keyboard solos. It blows me away sometimes.

klasaine
October 20th, 2011, 12:31 AM
"they go totally crazy for the singer"

Tim nails it. They also go for the drummer but it's usually only if they like dumb, homeless, unreliable guys.

:mrgreen: Damn brother, you crack me up more every day!
And yes ... singers are where it's at. This coming from a non-singing guitar player.

Old Cane
October 20th, 2011, 12:01 PM
Yeah, but you know it's true. Some chicks dig that helpless thing.

Chele
October 25th, 2011, 10:53 AM
+1 again!

Agreed, I'm front man in a reggae band (that's right) and our original line-up was 5 of us, just me on vocals. It was pretty good. We added a female vocalist (because it's reggae) and then we were really good. Our original drummer took some time off and our new guy sings as well. Harmonies are awesome, well done three-part harmonies are amazing and not too common in the bar scene these days I think.

Guitar shredders are great to have, they can lengthen a song when it needs to be lengthened which is crucial for keeping people on the floor, but I also think they're a dime a dozen, at least in my town. Every guitar player wants to be a lead guitar player these days (although I'm quite happy with rhythm) so they are not terribly hard to find. Getting someone who not only can sing but can harmonize is a much trickier find, and much more beneficial in my opinion. But then again, it may depend on the genre

greggorypeccary
October 25th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Go for the singers.

bargoedboy
October 26th, 2011, 04:16 PM
we`ve gone from 1 singer and average guitarist (me) to 3 lead singers and a really good player as well as me, had to go up to a 5pc to do it but what the hell, the song is more important than the solo !

Old Cane
October 26th, 2011, 04:27 PM
the song is more important than the solo !

Spoken like a true singer.

bargoedboy
October 26th, 2011, 04:37 PM
Spoken like a true singer.

I`m not the singer, not by a long long way:oops:
As a Landlady shouted out to me at a gig once "Taff i hear welshmen can either sing or play rugby, What position do you play ?"

rarebreed
October 27th, 2011, 08:50 AM
In my time I've seen good bands and not so good bands. You can have a group with some of the best musicians in the world, if nobody can sing you're screwed.But then on the other hand you can have okay musicians with great vocals and it will sell. The vocals are what will sell the band. Ain't nothing worse than hearing someone sing off-key alnight.

INFANT
October 27th, 2011, 10:20 PM
"Ain't nothing worse than hearing someone sing off-key alnight."


Amen brother!!

AJBaker
November 20th, 2011, 06:15 AM
Strong vocals and harmonies can be MIND BLOWING!

brookdalebill
November 20th, 2011, 06:26 AM
Get the singer.
Good/great guitar players are a dime a dozen, especially around here.

TeleTim911
November 20th, 2011, 06:40 AM
I agree, go with the singers. Guitarists are a dime a dozen (sorry, but it's true). If you find you need a guitarist later, you can add one.

Lazloryder
November 20th, 2011, 06:43 PM
Without a doubt go with the great singers! No one other than guitarist cares about great guitar playing. And even then not all guitarist care about it.

Mjark
November 20th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Good vocals are better than a hot guitarist every time. Too bad my band has neither. :cool:

musicmatty
November 21st, 2011, 09:50 PM
Good vocals are better than a hot guitarist every time. Too bad my band has neither. :cool:

No schittt..you too :shock: We must be kin folk :lol:


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Louthunder
December 1st, 2011, 05:09 PM
Here's a novel idea! who says you can't have the great guitar player and the two great singers in the same band!! Just sayin' 5 instead of 4 players!