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analogtubeguy October 5th, 2011, 02:01 PM i'll get my 5e3 in about 3-4 weeks (it's going through a powerscaling treatment) but i only need a speaker wich would fit my needs best?
what i'm looking for: mellow highs, thick mids but no overpowered mids, thight fat bass but really not too farty.
i'll mostly be running it with the powerscaling so a speaker wich sounds best at 8-12 will not be good for me
saintpedrick October 5th, 2011, 02:55 PM I would go with a Jenson Jet Blackbird. They have really nice clear lows and dont sacrifice any of the highs to get it. It also has a great response and a very pleasing break up to them. I use a pair in my 72 twin reverb and they just sing
fezz parka October 5th, 2011, 03:16 PM Red Fang.
BobbyB October 5th, 2011, 03:24 PM Tone tubby ceramic hempcone or Eminence Cannibus rex
slider313 October 5th, 2011, 03:29 PM Celestion G12M 25 watt greenback.
robt57 October 5th, 2011, 03:32 PM Red Fang.
Me: Fezz, what color are the leaves in Autumn
F: Red....
Me: Fezz, what color is your dog?
F: Red
Me: Fezz, what is your dogs na...
Fez: FANG!
Me: Fezz, what is the best speaker on the planet, I mean if I wan...
Fezz: Cough cough....
:mrgreen:
To the OP, IMO the high end sparkle if an Alnico at 7-8 will be beneath the compressed smooth goodness and mid flavor generally. Turn it lower or back way off the git Vol, sparkle will surface..
That said, I agree with Red Fang, GB, and -C-bis, The later being warmest, the Red Fang; sparlkieset, GB; mid tweed crunchiest. But this is what my ears hear... YMMV.
analogtubeguy October 5th, 2011, 04:14 PM first of all thanks for the advice, but i dont like eminence i dont know why, but from what i understand an alnico speaker wont give me the goods at low volume?
Lostinthe50s October 5th, 2011, 04:26 PM C-rex. Come to the dark side, get a free cookie. This speaker made me forget everything I thought I knew about Eminence...
RJ
mabley123 October 5th, 2011, 07:25 PM jbl e120. jbl d120 jbkl k120
altec 412 8h
check out fane speakers.
analogtubeguy October 7th, 2011, 04:54 PM how about a greenback??
jefrs October 7th, 2011, 07:24 PM how about a greenback??
Too lush and woofy, though they do work better at high volume. Try the G12H-30 55Hz, tight but deep bottom end for "low" volume, clear top-end with balanced mids
uriah1 October 7th, 2011, 09:04 PM One of the celestion heritage series 55hz or 77hz ..nice mids
analogtubeguy October 8th, 2011, 03:26 AM and a 20 watt weber 12a125?
flyingbanana October 8th, 2011, 04:03 AM sure
whiskeyzulu October 8th, 2011, 07:52 AM Speakers, like all other aspects of gear, are very subjective. If you get past eminence prejudice, the C. Rex or Legend 12gb (their greenback) have both been great speakers.
Here is a link to a speaker shootout that may be helpful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWK0sa7tlfI
Otherwise, check out warehouse guitar speaker from kentucky who make well regarded clones of top speakers.
Good luck!
JimmyJam October 8th, 2011, 07:59 AM I like round ones.
robt57 October 8th, 2011, 01:24 PM I like round ones.
Have you actually tried NON round ones is the question?
http://i48.tinypic.com/1e0x3a.jpg
JimmyJam October 8th, 2011, 03:11 PM Have you actually tried NON round ones is the question?
http://i48.tinypic.com/1e0x3a.jpg
Touche
BobbyZ October 8th, 2011, 09:53 PM WTF ? Looks like a browny pan speaker. Dam a browny would tast good right now.
RussBert October 8th, 2011, 10:12 PM Celestion Blue, or any of it's clones...
WGS Black 'n Blue
Weber Blue Dog (and a shout out to the Silver Bell)
Red Fang
FMA October 10th, 2011, 08:47 AM I know you said you didn't think highly of Eminence speakers, but a Red Fang would be very good in that amp. As would a Cannabis Rex. From the tone your describing, a C-Rex would fit the bill.
mabley123 October 10th, 2011, 10:45 AM jbl d120f was the original upgrade replacement for anything 12 inch in the 60's. they are expensive but have a great sound. they are alnico.
i have 6 jbl e120's. they are ceramic and it seems that ceramic are better for this amp? or it is said to get ceramic for this amp?
a jbl e120 will make your amp sound noticably louder vs. similar speakers at the same volume settings. it is very efficient ( 103 db-1 wt-1 meter ) and does not take much to push it...but it can take about anything you can throw at it. they are very flat and bright sounding and do not color the tone much. thats why we have tone controls.
the d and k series have a different voice than the e series. and sensitivity and power ratings are different.
jimi hendrix, duane allman and dicky betts all changed out the celestions in their for the jbl d120f.
fane also make very efficient speakers.
if you are or not familar with them?....... they are what comes in a hiwatt. they were the first speaker manufacturer for guitar speakers that broke the 100db @ 1 watt 1 meter.
vanguard October 10th, 2011, 10:53 AM celestion blue. if you're playing the 5E3 at lower power levels, the blue's low-wattage rating will be helpful. it doesn't take much to get a blue singing. if you want tighter bass, a heritage g12h.
DOGMA Dunn October 10th, 2011, 11:18 AM i'll get my 5e3 in about 3-4 weeks (it's going through a powerscaling treatment) but i only need a speaker wich would fit my needs best?
what i'm looking for: mellow highs, thick mids but no overpowered mids, thight fat bass but really not too farty.
i'll mostly be running it with the powerscaling so a speaker wich sounds best at 8-12 will not be good for me
I like the modern jensen c12q. Some will argue it is not like a original from the 60s but that's not what I want. In my clone 5e3 with deluxe reverb transformers, and larger power supply filter caps, the c12q has smooth clear highs, thick mids when needed, and a tight punchy bass without fart at higher volumes. Also, this speaker is more efficient than the older era alnicos, hence allows for more clear/clean overhead when going into higher volumes. And retains the smooth long sustain at moderate and low volumes as well. Overall, it is very balanced and will get a fender tone. As you know the original circuit of the 5e3 becomes more mid focus when you turn the volume up over the sweet spot it starts to sound like an old bassman or early marshall 1974x. The scooped mid voice of the c12q, IMO, balances out the mids when using the amp in high volumes, hence you get a character of the 5e3 and the balance of a deluxe reverb, for clear/clean sound, at higher volumes with the clarity of the bass and trebble and mids.
Check out the jensen website they have sound clip samples as does eminence. Both companies make a variety of speakers that can fit your needs.
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