Paul in Colorado
August 19th, 2011, 02:52 PM
Does anyone have a generic contract form that they use when they gig? A kind of fill in the blanks kind of thing?
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Contract FormPaul in Colorado August 19th, 2011, 02:52 PM Does anyone have a generic contract form that they use when they gig? A kind of fill in the blanks kind of thing? Thanks! String Tree August 19th, 2011, 04:29 PM I don't have one. Getting Club Owners to sign something that they can be held accountable for doesn't happen around here. Knowing that you have what it takes to keep them at their word, guarantees you won't be getting a gig from them! Sadly, I have to trust them to keep their word. For events like Concerts, Fairs, etc, the Promoter won't put his name on anything but his own contract. Hope it goes better for you. klasaine August 19th, 2011, 07:11 PM This is what I use for corporate stuff ... https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ZnuJ4Y85FPU/TUL9a8lYlwI/AAAAAAAACVE/39a6Qi0o6mE/s512/img022.jpg For bars - what String Tree said. Tim Armstrong August 19th, 2011, 08:32 PM I like that, Ken, and will be "borrowing" it! Tim klasaine August 19th, 2011, 08:42 PM Please do Tim. I 'borrowed' it from a band leader years ago. Joe-Bob August 19th, 2011, 09:06 PM klasaine, In some places, non-refundable deposits are not legal. IIRC -- You have to call it something else, a "booking fee" perhaps. Paul in Colorado August 19th, 2011, 11:03 PM Thanks, Ken. Any others? What do Union Bands use? klasaine August 20th, 2011, 02:10 AM Here's one from my hood ... http://promusic47.org/forms/LA-1_pro.pdf Every local has something a bit different. Here's a 'general' union single engagement contract. Scroll down just past half way and you'll see sample contracts ... http://www.afm689.org/resources/resources_hiringmusicians.html This example is British ... http://www.horizon-sounds.co.uk/HorizonGigContract.pdf Mike Bruce August 20th, 2011, 07:36 AM I don't have one. Getting Club Owners to sign something that they can be held accountable for doesn't happen around here. Knowing that you have what it takes to keep them at their word, guarantees you won't be getting a gig from them! Sadly, I have to trust them to keep their word. For events like Concerts, Fairs, etc, the Promoter won't put his name on anything but his own contract. Hope it goes better for you. Likewise. It's been like this around here ever since the demise of the musician's union. I don't know a single local band that are members anymore, and no venue is going to sign anything. Sports bars, karaoke bars, video dance nights, smoking and drinking laws, and then the subsequent play-for-free bands pretty much killed any advantage bands had in the booking procedure. We play for about the same pay today as we did in the late '70s, and we're way better now. However, we only get decent treatment from the venue by being good, acting professionally, taking the high moral ground, and withholding services if we're shat on. Usually the handshake agreement works, but venues often "forget" they promised meals or whatever. NewOldStock August 21st, 2011, 12:38 PM We play for about the same pay today as we did in the late '70s, and we're way better now. Strangely it's been $600/night(cash) for around 30 years here also. The cost of transportation has raised, the cost of gear has raised, attendances have raised, and the level and quality of musicians has raised, but not the income. I'm doing the bar-to-bar promoting thing for our new group right now. I keep hearing, "It's always been $600", or "these other guys play here for $600". But I guess if we wanted to make real money we'd find jobs. :grin: |
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