August 3rd, 2011, 10:17 PM
After many years of missing my old Evans Butcher Block Pull String (traded to Timmy Teague in Nashville in early 90s), I picked up a 2004 Fender American Nashville B bender. Im starting to find my way around it pretty good. What I noticed is the stroke of the pull does not recover fast enough to play some of the faster licks. Its great for those slow Pedal Steel licks, but as I try to do some faster licks, it seems to take too long to pull it into tune, release and do it again.
I assume that there is difference in the throw or stroke of different models...yes? Is there some adjustment to this on the Fender American version I have?
August 3rd, 2011, 10:22 PM
Is there some adjustment to this on the Fender American version I have?
No there's no adjustment for the stroke on a "Fender" bender. Also, if it's a stock unit, it's stroke would be considered short... (not a long stroke).
August 3rd, 2011, 11:20 PM
Thanks. The bender and body are stock. Bender has Fender B Bender: Parson/Green nomanclature. I actually got the body with no neck. I made a special neck for it. It has Glendale bridge and brass saddles. Decent guitar that is actually pretty resonant accoustically even with the inch-thick poly paint.
Just check and it seems the stroke at the strap is about 1" or so. Maybe a bit more. Maybe that is considered a short stroke, but I am used to being able to play country licks from slow to very fast (ala Danny Gaton) and when I replace certain licks with the B Bender, it seems to slow way down...but I hear others play the Bender with very quick response.
Must be doing something wrong.
August 4th, 2011, 12:26 AM
Since you only bought the body, it may have been modified. Throw of a standard P/G bender is about .40 inches when set to bend the B to C#, but I don't know how you are measuring the throw. The only way you could get 1.0 inch out of a P/G is if it had a long throw clevis installed from Gene Parsons. Return speed can be improved by changing the spring to stronger one.
For reference, the standard unit and clevis should look about like this Hipshot unit if it is removed from the guitar and turned over. Hope this helps.
August 4th, 2011, 12:39 PM
Dogbear. Yes that looks right. It has about a .40" throw between the lever and the stop. THat seems to translate to about 1" of strap movement at the strap button. Sorry I did not make that clear. So that is considered short? Maybe I am just expecting more out of it than it is made for.
August 4th, 2011, 10:32 PM
That would be considered short. A stronger spring will give you a faster return time but will not effect the P/G throw. There are other benders out there that come or can be configered to run with a much shorter throw, but the P/G is sort of a take it or leave it type of deal. A compromise in so many ways. Gene Parsons makes a long throw clevis and Brian Friend makes a medium throw, but there is no way to make this one any shorter. The clevis is already staight. I actually prefer my P/G's to have a little longer throw - medium works just fine for me.
August 5th, 2011, 10:09 AM
Joe, if you decide you want something different, Dave Evans is making some fine Pull Strings! You can adjust that throw length any way you want.
August 5th, 2011, 10:33 AM
The stroke on my old parsons greenes were short. I never measured them before selling. Plus, I shortened the spring on both to make the return stronger. This reduced accidental bends and felt much more sturdy. In my opinion the parsons greens need this done right off the bat.
August 6th, 2011, 12:05 PM
Thanks. I will mess around with it.