Parsons White Double Bender

On a parsons-white double bender, can the the strings be bent simultaneously? i.e. one string up, while the other down.. or vice versa? any difference in operation from a glaser double bender??
thanks,
whistlepig7

i never could do it. the only double bender i've been able to do that on is one of my HipShot B/G bender units. others here may have a different experience. opposing bends at the same time are something i like to "throw" in once in a while, and i just can't do it with any "strap B/lanyard G" string bending system.

and welcome to the "nut house".

thanks for the welcome... so it's nothing in the mechanism that prevents it... it's just difficult/impossible to make the movement required with your body?
thanks

i won't say impossible for everyone, just that i PERsonally found it to be impossible. the strap activated bender requires you "pull/push down" on the neck, the lanyard G bender that hooks to a belt loop requires you to pull "up/out" to engage, it's just a matter of i couldn't go both directions at once. but, the lowly HipShot B bender is activated by just a very slight push "out" on the neck, and the G bender is activated by a lever which is depressed by the picking "wrist" be it left handed or right handed set-up. to use the G bender requires NO movement of the guitar in ANY direction.

just relating my experience with dual-benders, others may have different results.

I've seen Forrest Lee Jr. do it in a video ...

The original question of one string going "up" and one "down" is not possible with any bender that I've used. They are all bend up systems.

T55, how about thinking of it as 1) bend and hold B, 2) bend and hold G, release B. I'd guess it's tough, but it isn't impossible.

I have never played a Parsons white double bender which has to be pulled toward you to bend the G string.

I did have Bill bBores make me a Hybrid Parsons B, and Saddle G bender , which you pushed away from you to bend the G, and down to bend the B. I had no problem using one, both, or the other bender simultaneously or individually.

The original question of one string going "up" and one "down" is not possible with any bender that I've used. They are all bend up systems.

not at all trying to argue here. the way to get the "up-down" bend effect is to bend up normally on whatever string you want to bend "up", at the same time the other string must be noted while the string is already "bent" and then you let the note "descend". thus, an up/down bend at the same time. but the "illusion" of "bending down" on a single string has been used forever. up/down at the same time on two seperate strings, not so much.

i can do it with my Mackenzie M.S.P. floor bender system, but only by using both feet and it is pretty awkward.

On a parsons-white double bender, can the the strings be bent simultaneously? i.e. one string up, while the other down.. or vice versa? any difference in operation from a glaser double bender??
thanks,
whistlepig7

Are you asking if teh pitch can be lowered instead of raised? Because you would have to set the mechanics of teh bender up differently to accomplish this, but it can be done.

Duesenburg multi bender is a bolt on bender that uses palm attachments, it can hold 3 or 4 at a time, and can be set to raise and lower

Talk to Bill Bores, he is the man for wild one of benders

What is all the confusion here? Play the first 3 strings open, with the G bender activated, so the 3rd string sounds an A note. As you release the G bender A note back to open G, active the B bender to raise the open B note to C#. The 3rd string goes down, while the 2nd string goes up.

What is all the confusion here? Play the first 3 strings open, with the G bender activated, so the 3rd string sounds an A note. As you release the G bender A note back to open G, active the B bender to raise the open B note to C#. The 3rd string goes down, while the 2nd string goes up.

jmiles nails it. this is what i was trying to convey; pre-bend one or the other and have at it. myself, i could never easily do it with with anything but a HipShot B/G unit.

bf,
I'm a Hipshot guy. Another very steelie sounding resolve from D back to G;
1st string 10th fret, 2nd string 10th fret, 3rd string 12th fret. Pluck all three, and activate the G bender to pull the 3rd string into unison with the 2nd string. While the strings are still ringing, release the 3rd string bender, and activate the 2nd string bender.

bf,
I'm a Hipshot guy. Another very steelie sounding resolve from D back to G;
1st string 10th fret, 2nd string 10th fret, 3rd string 12th fret. Pluck all three, and activate the G bender to pull the 3rd string into unison with the 2nd string. While the strings are still ringing, release the 3rd string bender, and activate the 2nd string bender.

okay, i'll have to try that one tomorrow. i can "hear" it in my old aged head, but i'll give it a "hands on" in the a.m. Lady Bender-Freak is watching TV right now and i would be risking instant, very painful death if i get within 6 feet of one of my bender rigs right now:shock::lol: i'll see if i can come up with the ones (double bends) that i use and post a few of them in any sort of sensible fashion sometime tomorrow.

Its so easy to get the bends on the G string with just your fingers that I never saw a double bender as being anything but confusing. I know there are people that can do amazing things with multi benders, but I know that it would take me years to perfect something like that.
I'd rather just get use to the B-bender and bending the G and the ocassional other string with my fingers and get on with making music.

But you can't bend the G string if it's in between two other strings. Say,,, 2nd string 10th fret, 3rd string 9th fret, 3rd string 12th fret. Bend the 2nd string up 2 frets with your finger. Sure, that'll work.

In this video I think I am doing a lot simultaneous stuff - that is, in the last section of the vid I am moving the benders in the same direction and opposite direction. Done on a modern bender configuration so this close up vid of both hands might help.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/twanger-central/250569-bender-boogie-original-tune-b-g-bender-tele.html

Nice bender guitar! lol

I dont use doubles... because I like to jump around and act like a rock star on stage... and the G tethers me... I build a lot of double benders but I personally dont use them much. It's just another learning curve. There are some killer G bender licks... that cant be done without one... and doing the 1/2 step up on the G, and full step B, tuning like an E9.... oh yeah... now ur talking!

"Say,,, 2nd string 10th fret, 3rd string 9th fret, 3rd string 12th fret. Bend the 2nd string up 2 frets with your finger"

I totally messed that up! Should read; " 2nd string 10th fret, 3rd string 9th fret, 4th string 12th fret. Bend the 3rd string up 2 frets with your finger"

#1; Bending with your finger does not sound the same as bending with a bender. Do I need to type out Gene's quote about that again? It's on the top of page 113, of "Desperados."

#2; Seems to me that a lot of the comments about just using your fingers to bend the G string, have put themselves in a box of just thinking about the first three strings.