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How much giggable material do you have?

metallicsponge
March 28th, 2011, 03:33 AM
Say someone at a party hands you an acoustic guitar. How much material do you have before you have to recycle?

Right now I have only 20 minutes of solid material that I can put out to entertain. That's about four songs! Yipes. And I've been playing guitar for almost 25 years.

Too much learning scales/theory not enough songs for me.

zoppotrump
March 28th, 2011, 03:45 AM
i think, i could come up with 120 songs with complete lyrics and correct chords, all country,
if i sum up every song i could play and sing, i´d be in the 200 range.
but i´m not good in scales and theory....:wink:

greggorypeccary
March 28th, 2011, 05:28 AM
I could probably go for a couple hours if randomly handed a guitar.

bender-freak
March 28th, 2011, 07:55 AM
As long as i have my "lists" with me, at least 500 songs. When i depend on just memory alone for impromptu picking, still 300+.

I don't sing, so the situation has never really come up for me to be THE "entertainment". One reason I suppose I have such a list of songs to "grab" is I love instrumentals (Chet Atkins, Travis, Maphis, Reed, etc.) but I am not locked into only country music; like to dabble into jazz, gospel, some bluegrass, older R&R from the 70s, doo-wop, big band, blues. If it is musical to me, then it's fair game. If I can learn it and it can be recognized:lol::oops:, then it goes on the "list".

WaylonFan76
March 28th, 2011, 08:55 AM
Say someone at a party hands you an acoustic guitar. How much material do you have before you have to recycle?

Right now I have only 20 minutes of solid material that I can put out to entertain. That's about four songs! Yipes. And I've been playing guitar for almost 25 years.

Too much learning scales/theory not enough songs for me.

Somehow, your math seems wrong to me. 4 songs last you 20 minutes ? I would think you need more than 4 songs to last 20 minutes. An average single is 2 1/2 to 3 minutes long.

tombm3
March 28th, 2011, 09:17 AM
Maybe 2 of his 4 are American Pie and Stairway to Heaven. That would bring him up around 16 minutes. :razz:

JeradP
March 28th, 2011, 09:25 AM
Maybe 2 of his 4 are American Pie and Stairway to Heaven. That would bring him up around 16 minutes. :razz:

Maybe he knows Free Bird and 3 commercial jingles... :mrgreen:


I have to have a list of the songs I know, I can't seem to recall them all right off instantly

greggorypeccary
March 28th, 2011, 10:52 AM
Somehow, your math seems wrong to me. 4 songs last you 20 minutes ? I would think you need more than 4 songs to last 20 minutes. An average single is 2 1/2 to 3 minutes long.

I'm more curious about the fact that after 25 years of playing he only knows four songs. :confused:

jazztele
March 28th, 2011, 11:04 AM
For my solo gigs, I estimate I have about 100 tunes, about 40 of which I keep up at any given time (the others I can recall but I need a little black coffee and a glance at the chart)

For gigging with a group, I think that # about doubles...there was about 200 sheets in my "book" last time I paid attention. These are all songs I can play in a pinch, or at least glance at the chart and be refreshed...There's other tunes I'd "know" but not as well, those I can do with a chart and sort of bluff my way through....thank goodness I don't sing...

Danjg
March 28th, 2011, 01:09 PM
I can understand how you can go a while without learning recognizable material... I went through a major backlash (in college, imagine that) and delved heavily into mechanics, theory, scales, etc... because I was upset at seeing everyone pick up a guitar and play the same four chords from a dave matthews band or jack johnson song without any understanding of what they were playing. I think I gained a new appreciation for learning songs and now love playing other peoples work. I could probably pick up a guitar and play an hour but nothing would ever be a note for note complete song, there would be recognizable melodies and chord progressions and I can sing a note or two. If you're asking how many complete songs I can play-- 0 minutes, how long I could jam in front of people or at a local pub with another musician-- quite a while (30-40 ~songs?)

gatimberframer
March 28th, 2011, 01:52 PM
Well I see "giggable" material and party entertainment fodder as two separate categories.

Maybe 40-50 songs ready to go with just me, a guitar, and a mic on stage. I'd say several hundred more if I have the lyrics. Used to be more, but I haven't gigged solo in a while and some of them have evaporated.

At a party in a singalong atmosphere, I can play until the sun comes up if people are into it. Especially if there's someone to jam with. But that's because I don't care if I mess up or forget the lyrics as long as we're all having fun.

telewacked
March 28th, 2011, 02:41 PM
This is something I've been wanting to improve on for years. I've played lead guitar in bands for going on 30 years, but have never done any solo playing and I generally don't sing (I don't memorize lyrics easily). If I get handed a guitar, I can play a few songs, but mostly "parts" I know, some solos and I can improvise a groove, but since I've never worked songs out for solo purposes, it just isn't the same as a true solo performer.
It's still on my list of goals, to be able to sit down and play a few dozen songs that would entertain a living room full of folks.

metallicsponge
March 28th, 2011, 05:24 PM
I'm more curious about the fact that after 25 years of playing he only knows four songs. :confused:

Come on man....for some of us its an electric forum. It is pretty pathetic, but not unreasonably so:

a) not 25 years of hard practice. I've been noodling/playing lead guitar for 25 years.

b) focusing on lead guitar/accompanyment in a full band.

c) not a vocalist or solo fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. Im such an electric player that I can just barely do a bar chord on an acoustic!

d) 4 tunes that can hold someones attention. Know a bunch of blues classics, instrumental songs for electric, etc. With chord sheets/lyrics and having heard the song i can play a lot more songs, but I never bothered to memorize the lyrics/chords.

So if someone hands me a guitar at a party, I can probably keep their attention for 20 minutes. Or if I had to go do a gig today in front of a mic, without fumbling with chord sheets.

Telesavalis
March 28th, 2011, 05:34 PM
I'm good for about 5 hours of material

greggorypeccary
March 28th, 2011, 05:36 PM
Come on man....for some of us its an electric forum. It is pretty pathetic, but not unreasonably so:

a) not 25 years of hard practice. I've been noodling/playing lead guitar for 25 years.

b) focusing on lead guitar/accompanyment in a full band.

c) not a vocalist or solo fingerstyle acoustic guitarist. Im such an electric player that I can just barely do a bar chord on an acoustic!

d) 4 tunes that can hold someones attention. Know a bunch of blues classics, instrumental songs for electric, etc. With chord sheets/lyrics and having heard the song i can play a lot more songs, but I never bothered to memorize the lyrics/chords.

So if someone hands me a guitar at a party, I can probably keep their attention for 20 minutes. Or if I had to go do a gig today in front of a mic, without fumbling with chord sheets.

I got ya. You really know more than four songs, you're just saying four songs in a "sit down with a guitar and play songs" way.

wshelley
March 28th, 2011, 05:43 PM
I know what you mean. I don't learn lyrics, or really sing, so there aren't many, if any, songs I can play from beginning to end and sing. I can put a lead over other people playing for hours. I didn't know it was so pathetic and uncommon...

metallicsponge
March 28th, 2011, 06:06 PM
I got ya. You really know more than four songs, you're just saying four songs in a "sit down with a guitar and play songs" way.

Actually even so, I probably only know about 20 songs (start to finish) at this point. I've learned probably 50-80 songs mostly for bands that I've forgotten how to play start to finish.

I dont know if this is pathetic or not, because if I need to learn a tune for a gig I can, no problem. But I can't remember lyrics (because I dont sing), and rely on the drummer to cue transitions from different sections of the song. Im lost at sea as a solo guy.

I see it as a problem with memory and diligence.

dwlb
March 28th, 2011, 11:16 PM
It depends on how many songs I can remember that I remember. I recently did a solo acoustic wallpaper gig that went for 2 1/2 hours with no breaks (fingers absolutely killing me by the end) with more to spare, but I had some lyric sheets. But the main thing was a list of songs in front of me. Put me under pressure and I'll completely forget about the dozens of songs I've played over the years that I certainly still know...if asked, then: "oh, Rock and Roll Music? no problem. Is She Really Going Out With Him? Sure." But much of the time I'm just sitting there thinking, geez, what songs do I know? When of course there are hundreds.

String Tree
March 29th, 2011, 01:26 AM
Say someone at a party hands you an acoustic guitar. How much material do you have before you have to recycle?

Right now I have only 20 minutes of solid material that I can put out to entertain. That's about four songs! Yipes. And I've been playing guitar for almost 25 years.

Too much learning scales/theory not enough songs for me.

You have 4 GOOD songs.
That's a GOOD start.
4 good songs trumps 20 lousy songs.
Start working on a 5th (song that is).

Repeat as needed.

slimodom
March 29th, 2011, 01:43 AM
4 hrs + solo or with a band

LGOberean
March 30th, 2011, 03:26 AM
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time on scales/theory, :oops:, but for many years my focus was less on guitar virtuosity and more on accompanying my singing, so I have a large enough repertoire of gig-able material. I can easily do 40-50 songs from memory.

I have been playing for 42 years (playing out for the last 11), and I have a pretty good memory. Oh, I do occasionally suffer brain farts when it comes to lyrics, and there are some lengthy songs (e.g., Marty Robbins' "El Paso") that I just need to glance at the lyrics or I'm liable to flub a line. But I can and have done a night's worth of songs from memory.

I've been working on improving my guitar playing skills in the last several years, but I'm still just a rhythm and riffs guy on guitar and a singer first. So if the criterion here is holding people's attention, I'd have a hard time of it trying to play lead, but singing and accompanying myself, I could do an evening of entertainment.

metallicsponge
March 30th, 2011, 03:38 AM
Perhaps I haven't spent enough time on scales/theory, :oops:, but for many years my focus was less on guitar virtuosity and more on accompanying my singing, so I have a large enough repertoire of gig-able material. I can easily do 40-50 songs from memory.

I have been playing for 42 years (playing out for the last 11), and I have a pretty good memory. Oh, I do occasionally suffer brain farts when it comes to lyrics, and there are some lengthy songs (e.g., Marty Robbins' "El Paso") that I just need to glance at the lyrics or I'm liable to flub a line. But I can and have done a night's worth of songs from memory.

I've been working on improving my guitar playing skills in the last several years, but I'm still just a rhythm and riffs guy on guitar and a singer first. So if the criterion here is holding people's attention, I'd have a hard time of it trying to play lead, but singing and accompanying myself, I could do an evening of entertainment.

You must have chicks hanging all over you! Hell, I want to jump on. I really respect guys that can sing and play guitar, much more than dime a dozen lead players.

LGOberean
March 30th, 2011, 05:25 AM
You must have chicks hanging all over you! Hell, I want to jump on. I really respect guys that can sing and play guitar, much more than dime a dozen lead players.


Well, thanks, but I hardly think of lead players as a dime a dozen. It doesn't appear that way to me. I guess maybe it comes across to me as a rare gift because I can't do it, even after playing for 4 decades.

I've been singing all my life; I probably emerged from the womb singing "Ain't Misbehavin'." (Woa! Where did I get that image?!? :shock: :oops:) Anyway, because singing is my area of giftedness, I guess I don't see it as rare a thing as a guy that has really got chops and can play all over the neck and never get lost.

As for chicks, I've been married for 38 years to the same lady; she's a real glutton for punishment (seriously, though, she's a big fan). Still, I have had some ego-stoking moments from other ladies. On several occasions, I have watched women in the audience do that hand-to-the-chest thing. That always gets me. Anytime my singing makes a woman's heart flutter, I get a big rush of blood to my...ego. (What did you think I was going to say? :twisted:)

Yeah, I like to sing for the ladies, but I also like singing stuff that guys relate to. I basically have a pretty diverse repertoire: '40s jazz/popular standards; Country (mostly traditional C&W); Beatles; CCR; JT; Gordon Lightfoot; Simon & Garfunkel; John Denver; John Mayall; Robert Johnson; SRV.

TeleTim911
March 30th, 2011, 05:36 AM
If I have my songbook with me, possibly several hours. I have a terrible time remembering lyrics, so I use lyric sheets. Music, no problem. For some mental reason I can NOT remember a single song all the way through. Of course anymore I can't remember what day it is most of the time.

StarliteDeVille
March 30th, 2011, 07:14 PM
Probably three hours of originals, but according to our lead guitarist, I am really only playing one song over and over. I know enough covers to tack on another hour or so.
How hard of a line are we drawing on the "keeping their attention" and "entertaining" requirements?