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Capacitor question

Thinlineggman
January 15th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Will a .1uf capacitor work well for this wiring schematic????

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=tele_4ws

tazzboy
January 15th, 2011, 06:23 PM
It should if don't want a lot Treble.

Thinlineggman
January 15th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Aight cool. Thanks!

TubbyTone
January 16th, 2011, 01:25 PM
I put a 333 uf orange drop in mine, lovin' it !!!!

tdowns
January 16th, 2011, 02:20 PM
It should if don't want a lot Treble.

In other words when the tone pot is at max CCW, it will be much more bassy/muddy than using a 0.047µF.

I put a 333 uf orange drop in mine, lovin' it !!!!

I don't believe you mean 333µF. I think you mean the cap is marked 333, meaning the first 2 digits are the significant digits and the 3rd digit is the multiplier, resulting in picofarads.

33 x 10^3 = 33000pF or 0.033µF
:smile:

AJBaker
January 16th, 2011, 03:45 PM
It will work, though personally I think it might sound too dark for most of the travel of the tone pot, i.e everything below about 5 or 6 will be very dark, and you might be staying between 10 and 6 on the tone pot all the time. Plus, the in-series sound has less treble anyway, and the useable area *might* become even smaller.
Personally I'd even take something smaller than .047uf, like .022uf or 0.033 for example.

.1uf is what 50's and 60's Stratocasters used, but modern ones tend to have .022uf.

In the end it's personal preference though, so see what works best for you!

fezz parka
January 16th, 2011, 03:57 PM
Here's the scoop on your tone pot: for the first 2/3rds of the rotation CCW, the DC resistance of your pot is what's affecting the tone. The last 1/3rd of the rotation, the cap is tuning your resonance. As Terry has pointed out ( and it's the most concise explanation I've ever seen on the interwebs), if you use your tone control in the first 2/3rds experiment with tone pot values. If you run it in the last third, experiment with cap values. The rest, and this is MO, is hype and marketing. YMMV.:grin:

Thinlineggman
January 16th, 2011, 04:40 PM
Okay. This is my first time messing with wiring on a guitar... The pots I bought each came with .022uf caps so I'll try those first. When I built my bass a couple weeks ago I used a .1uf cap and it sounds awesome so I was wondering if that would be the case with a telecaster. Appears not to be the case lol:P

Thanks for the input everyone!!

AJBaker
January 18th, 2011, 07:33 AM
fezz, could you add a link to Terry's explanation?

Thanks

fezz parka
January 18th, 2011, 10:14 AM
fezz, could you add a link to Terry's explanation?

Thanks

I pretty much quoted it verbatim.:mrgreen:

garrett
January 18th, 2011, 12:03 PM
Here's the scoop on your tone pot: for the first 2/3rds of the rotation CCW, the DC resistance of your pot is what's affecting the tone. The last 1/3rd of the rotation, the cap is tuning your resonance. As Terry has pointed out ( and it's the most concise explanation I've ever seen on the interwebs), if you use your tone control in the first 2/3rds experiment with tone pot values. If you run it in the last third, experiment with cap values. The rest, and this is MO, is hype and marketing. YMMV.:grin:

That's interesting. Hadn't read that before, thanks.

I highly recommend experimenting with cap values. It's very cheap and easy to do. Different values suit different instruments and pickups. I've started going with 0.01uf on my Strats (I'm actually planning to try 0.005 on the bridge) and 0.015uf on the Tele. I find these values deliver a great jazz box tone when clean, mellow blues rhythms when dirty, and a cool "woman tone" when given a good dose of overdrive.

I think the classic, standard values (0.022-0.1uf) are too high for modern applications. Pure mud, which is why so many people ignore the tone knob.

AJBaker
January 18th, 2011, 12:20 PM
Garret,
In general I agree, smaller values give you some good sounds. My strat has .022 on neck and middle, and about .0068 for the bridge (.022 and .010 in series). Check out this mod I posted a while back!

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/stratocaster-discussion-forum/253595-mod-bridge-tone-control-eldred-mod-cocked-wah-sound.html#post2967134

TubbyTone
January 18th, 2011, 12:21 PM
In other words when the tone pot is at max CCW, it will be much more bassy/muddy than using a 0.047µF.



I don't believe you mean 333µF. I think you mean the cap is marked 333, meaning the first 2 digits are the significant digits and the 3rd digit is the multiplier, resulting in picofarads.

33 x 10^3 = 33000pF or 0.033µF
:smile:

yes correct :oops:, I love it and just installed them on my 73 custom as well.:grin:

fezz parka
January 18th, 2011, 12:23 PM
I'm constantly messing with my tone control when I play, but unless I'm going for a faux wah sound, I usually am within that first 2/3rds. That's when you have to look at the pot's value. On Teles, I use a .1 cap. On Strat's, an .047.

I have a bunch of NOS CD Black Cat's marked .015. When measured they're all over the place. Some are .02's all the way up to .05's! They never read at the marked value on the cap itself. It's important when getting into the minutia to measure what you're using. You may be surprised at the actual measured value of the cap.:grin: