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Least Influential Band Since The Beatles, And Did They Change Music?

yark14
January 2nd, 2011, 01:24 PM
With the current flux of Beatles posts in this forum...I'm going the opposite route.

Haven't decided the worst yet. I need to think about it some more.

Probably Chet's band.

Bolide
January 2nd, 2011, 01:30 PM
"Hey! Soul Sister" notwithstanding, there aren't a whole lotta kids spending time in the woodshed trying to nail the Mister Mister vibe.

klasaine
January 2nd, 2011, 01:37 PM
the Shags.
No, they didn't change music.

ShaunQ
January 2nd, 2011, 01:45 PM
"[The Shags are] better than the Beatles."

~Frank Zappa

SatelliteOrders
January 2nd, 2011, 02:04 PM
I was all about to put in The Shaggs when I find that they're already well-mentioned.

"My pal's name is Foot Foot. I never find him home...."

e-merlin
January 2nd, 2011, 02:08 PM
The Monkees. Hands down, the Monkees.

Bolide
January 2nd, 2011, 02:09 PM
Given that "The Shags" and "The Shaggs" were two separate and monumentally non-influential groups that were actively recording at the same time,

I stand corrected.

Brad Pittiful
January 2nd, 2011, 02:11 PM
the bee tolls...they never did a thing for music

Suicideking
January 2nd, 2011, 02:17 PM
WINGS

J-man
January 2nd, 2011, 02:56 PM
My vote goes for these guys:
uTAAYfGs2ZQ

I'm not usually one to declare any music as truly terrible, most bands have redeeming qualities even if I don't like what they're doing, but I struggle to find anything redeeming about this.

Brokencyde has been universally panned by critics. Metal Edge magazine has called Brokencyde "******* horrendous".[14] "Thrash Magazine" has called them "a mockery to the world of music". Cracked.com contributor Michael Swaim said the band sounded like "a Slipknot-Cher duet".[15] [16] British commentator Warren Ellis calls Brokencyde's "FreaXXX" music video "a near-perfect snapshot of everything that’s **** about this point in the culture".[17]

The New Musical Express stated in a review of I'm Not a Fan, But the Kids Like It!, that "even if I caught Prince Harry and Gary Glitter adorned in N*** regalia defecating through my grandmother’s letterbox I would still consider making them listen to this album too severe a punishment."[18]

Tim Armstrong
January 2nd, 2011, 03:20 PM
I'd have to say that my old band "The Mental Giants" was probably the most profoundly uninfluential band ever. We practiced for six months, played one gig (three band for three bucks), broke up. We didn't even suck, so it's not like folks remember us for that (unlike the Shags)...

Tim

klasaine
January 2nd, 2011, 03:41 PM
We didn't even suck, so it's not like folks remember us for that (unlike the Shags)...

Tim

You would've had to make a record and suck more in the public eye:mrgreen:.

yark14
January 2nd, 2011, 03:57 PM
This might be it...

An Nsyc, Backstreet Boys knockoff...and a bad one at that.

12tS7ezSreY

msfenderarg
January 2nd, 2011, 03:58 PM
http://lyricsreal.com/pictures/r/u/t/rutles-7-big.jpg

Post Toastie
January 2nd, 2011, 04:37 PM
Creed

Coach305
January 2nd, 2011, 05:06 PM
Some nominees:

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Frontier9
January 2nd, 2011, 05:10 PM
Sorry , like them or not, The Shaggs were an influential band.

StuH
January 2nd, 2011, 05:19 PM
My vote goes to REO Speedwagon.....
but I do think they were a huge influence for Michael Bolton

Post Toastie
January 2nd, 2011, 05:33 PM
Sorry Black Oak Arkansas influenced David Lee Roth big time so they can't qualify!

Tele-Monster
January 2nd, 2011, 05:42 PM
All bands I have played in....

musicalmartin
January 2nd, 2011, 05:51 PM
I watched a band called the Tyler Gang opening for Mink Deville at the old Hammersmith Palais .Oh God they were crap .Never seen or heard of them again .Mink Deville were excellent .At least they were free tickets .

getbent
January 2nd, 2011, 05:58 PM
The Monkees. Hands down, the Monkees.

As John Wayne used to say, "not hardly"

The Archies were created just like the monkees and by the same guy with a good number of hits...

the svengali producer/manager creating supergroups and made up bands stretches all the way from the monkees to the backstreet boys... the disney miley cyrus type bands (drake and josh etc) are everywhere... so, the monkees phenomena as a business was absolutely influential and repeated multiple times nearly always successfully.

Musically, the Monkees get a bad rap. They were pretty influential in the country rock movement with Mike Nesmith certainly among the folks who very much influenced the creation of country rock which is still an influence today in a lot of popular music (alt.country, country, indy, americana)...

If I try to list how many times the last train to clarksville lick has been ripped off, I run out of digits in a hurry....

The songwriters and bands that came out of the shadow of the monkees is also long and illustrious....

So, while the Monkees may not be the Beatles or the Byrds, seeing them as 'the least influential' is to not be thinking about the question very clearly.... and as some kind of a joke... it doesn't work either...

e-merlin
January 2nd, 2011, 06:00 PM
My vote goes to REO Speedwagon.....
but I do think they were a huge influence for Michael Bolton

Really? I don't get the connection. I really like REO, though. Gary Richrath was a pretty good player.

e-merlin
January 2nd, 2011, 06:02 PM
As John Wayne used to say, "not hardly"

The Archies were created just like the monkees and by the same guy with a good number of hits...

the svengali producer/manager creating supergroups and made up bands stretches all the way from the monkees to the backstreet boys... the disney miley cyrus type bands (drake and josh etc) are everywhere... so, the monkees phenomena as a business was absolutely influential and repeated multiple times nearly always successfully.

Musically, the Monkees get a bad rap. They were pretty influential in the country rock movement with Mike Nesmith certainly among the folks who very much influenced the creation of country rock which is still an influence today in a lot of popular music (alt.country, country, indy, americana)...

If I try to list how many times the last train to clarksville lick has been ripped off, I run out of digits in a hurry....

The songwriters and bands that came out of the shadow of the monkees is also long and illustrious....

So, while the Monkees may not be the Beatles or the Byrds, seeing them as 'the least influential' is to not be thinking about the question very clearly.... and as some kind of a joke... it doesn't work either...

Well, I dig a few of their songs, but I never thought of them as influential. Lots of valid points here, though.

StuH
January 2nd, 2011, 06:03 PM
Really? I don't get the connection. I really like REO, though. Gary Richrath was a pretty good player.

sappy love songs

e-merlin
January 2nd, 2011, 06:05 PM
I saw Three Dog Night once and the opening band was, well, lets say, uninspiring. The name of that band was Rayl. How they got that gig was beyond me. Totally outclassed by Three Dog Night. I only remember the opening band's name because of the unusual spelling so they had something going for them.

klasaine
January 2nd, 2011, 06:08 PM
These threads usually vere away pretty quickly from the OT.
We all end up just listing our personal 'this is great, this sucks, this band had a great or crappy guitar player'.

rjl1993
January 2nd, 2011, 06:10 PM
My vote goes for these guys:
uTAAYfGs2ZQ

I'm not usually one to declare any music as truly terrible, most bands have redeeming qualities even if I don't like what they're doing, but I struggle to find anything redeeming about this.

Can't agree more. I hear people at college listening to them and instantly walk away or at least put my iPod on, horrendous music!

OrQBU_-f2FM

I'll go for these guys though, utter rubbish!

e-merlin
January 2nd, 2011, 06:25 PM
sappy love songs



Like "Riding the Storm Out," "Keep on Rolling," and a long list of other rockers? Guess you've not listened to much REO. In fact, I can't remember more than a couple of sappy love songs by REO.

I think the Beatles have more influence on Michael Bolton if we're going by the "sappy love songs in the catalogue" yardstick...

cband7
January 2nd, 2011, 06:38 PM
True story: Hendrix opened for the Monkees until management realized they had made a slight error in judgement. Jimi was dropped or left the tour for obvious reasons.

Later, both Jimi and Steve Howe talked about joining Emerson, Lake and Palmer. With all the talent surfacing back then there are a lot of 'what if' stories around.

.

Dave Hopping
January 2nd, 2011, 06:43 PM
Beach Boy Dad Murry Wilson's follow-up act.The Sunrays.
Honorable mention:
Zager & Evans (In the year 2525)
Debby Boone(You Light Up My Life)
The Gary Rossington-Allen Collins Band.

elihu
January 2nd, 2011, 06:45 PM
Well, it only stands to reason that nobody knows the least influental band...as soon as someone does then the odds they might influence someone drastically increase.

next question?...:wink:

Bolide
January 2nd, 2011, 06:56 PM
Like "Riding the Storm Out," "Keep on Rolling," and a long list of other rockers? Guess you've not listened to much REO. In fact, I can't remember more than a couple of sappy love songs by REO.

I think the Beatles have more influence on Michael Bolton if we're going by the "sappy love songs in the catalogue" yardstick...

If the schmaltz known as "Classic Rock" radio is all someone went by, Kiss (Beth) and BOC (Don't Fear the Reaper) would also be thought of as bands that just did "sappy love songs".

chippertheripper
January 2nd, 2011, 07:15 PM
i've gotta go with creed and/or nickelback. worst.ever.

J-man
January 2nd, 2011, 07:34 PM
i've gotta go with creed and/or nickelback. worst.ever.

A big +1 on Nickelback. If they were a food they'd be a stale piece of bread. They couldn't really influence anyone because there's nothing there to take influence from.

outlawyer
January 2nd, 2011, 07:39 PM
It would seem reasonable that no one could name the least-influential band since the Beatles...never having heard of it.

J-man
January 2nd, 2011, 08:22 PM
It would seem reasonable that no one could name the least-influential band since the Beatles...never having heard of it.

Well yeah, but that'd make for a pretty short thread. :P

Oster
January 2nd, 2011, 09:14 PM
One of mine.

yark14
January 2nd, 2011, 10:47 PM
A big +1 on Nickelback. If they were a food they'd be a stale piece of bread. They couldn't really influence anyone because there's nothing there to take influence from.

I personally know a handful of people who picked up the guitar because of bands like Nickleback and Creed. I would call that influential.

I can't listen to those bands at all, but for some reason there are people that do like them and want to make that kind of music.

jrich99
January 2nd, 2011, 10:56 PM
Jonas Brothers. 'nuff said.

Tim Armstrong
January 2nd, 2011, 11:12 PM
I've been giving this some thought (oh, for the last several seconds), and I think that any act you liked or hated actually had some kind of affect on your consciousness, right? To be TRULY the least influential, a band has to have made absolutely no impression at all on the general public, either good or bad.

Again, I submit that my band circa 1989, "The Mental Giants" come mighty close to being the perfect candidate: We did actually perform in public (and were paid), yet only ever played the one gig, doing a set of classic rock covers to a bunch of drunk college kids in an outdoor setting, before one band and after another, and I can pretty much guarantee that none of the audience could've named us or identified what songs we played if you asked them an hour later...

Tim

Jeff_K
January 2nd, 2011, 11:15 PM
Gonna have to go with Foghat.

Hey, that live REO Speedwagon album from BEFORE they hit it big was actually pretty good. "You get what you play for" and Richrath was very underrated. They could rock before they hit paydirt with power ballads.

Oster
January 3rd, 2011, 12:08 AM
I remember a friend's band's bio where one of the members listed as his chief influence The Five Man Electrical Band (Signs). His main influence! I had to chuckle. I mean they're not bad but I'd never ever ever peg them as being influential to anyone. But there you go!

A.B.Negative
January 3rd, 2011, 04:49 AM
http://lyricsreal.com/pictures/r/u/t/rutles-7-big.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/pages/OUCH-The-Rutles-Tribute-Band/122349514125

Paul in Colorado
January 3rd, 2011, 07:43 AM
Pyewacket (the American group) They advertised in Rolling Stone when they were recording to draw attention. The album went nowhere. I saw them open for someone (The Beach Boys, maybe?) and it was like part of the band wanted to be The Who and the other The Monkees.

StuH
January 4th, 2011, 06:08 PM
I have to apologize for my REO Speedwagon comments. I got them mixed up with Air Supply sorry REO fans.:oops::shock:

mudshark
January 4th, 2011, 08:41 PM
As John Wayne used to say, "not hardly"

The Archies were created just like the monkees and by the same guy with a good number of hits...

the svengali producer/manager creating supergroups and made up bands stretches all the way from the monkees to the backstreet boys... the disney miley cyrus type bands (drake and josh etc) are everywhere... so, the monkees phenomena as a business was absolutely influential and repeated multiple times nearly always successfully.

Musically, the Monkees get a bad rap. They were pretty influential in the country rock movement with Mike Nesmith certainly among the folks who very much influenced the creation of country rock which is still an influence today in a lot of popular music (alt.country, country, indy, americana)...

If I try to list how many times the last train to clarksville lick has been ripped off, I run out of digits in a hurry....

The songwriters and bands that came out of the shadow of the monkees is also long and illustrious....

So, while the Monkees may not be the Beatles or the Byrds, seeing them as 'the least influential' is to not be thinking about the question very clearly.... and as some kind of a joke... it doesn't work either...

+1

Boyce and Hart's band The Candy Store Prophets pretty well played the music on the Monkees' first album (Including Last Train to Clarksville). After that, a lot of the Wrecking Crew played on their recordings. Admittedly, they had a really "uncool" image, but there were some fine musicians on their recordings.

dwlb
January 10th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Hey, that live REO Speedwagon album from BEFORE they hit it big was actually pretty good. "You get what you play for" and Richrath was very underrated. They could rock before they hit paydirt with power ballads.


I love that record.

bo
January 12th, 2011, 04:55 PM
April Wine?