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jjfatz42 October 2nd, 2010, 08:14 PM Anyone use one of these pedals in a band setting? If so, how did it work for ya? Which pedal do you recomend (Boss, Behringer, Zoom, Others)? Looking to simplify my setup/gear to haul/carry for gigs. I do some songs that don't sound right on electric, & it sure would be nice if I could get the sound out of a modeler.
All suggestions & feedback welcome.
jjfatz42 October 3rd, 2010, 07:21 PM Stupid question or what?
leonard d rock October 3rd, 2010, 09:44 PM IIRC most think acoustic modelers don't do the job right, or don't sound acoustic enough. i think the better way was to add a piezo bridge to your guitar - like the fishman or graph tech- and it gets more convincing sound. im looking at the peavey exp with acoustic modeling circuit to take on the dual job or acoustic and electric. theres a vid of the graphtech ghost system which is mighty convincing, check it out.
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summer_69 October 4th, 2010, 01:35 AM I have a zoom soundprocessor with an acoustic simulator. But I am not impressed by it. For parts I would preferably play on acoustic guitar I still use the neck PU and clean setting which provides a sound and tonal clarity way beyond what the pedal can do. It does sound like a clean tele - but thats not bad in my ears. I use a stack which provides a very solid and firm bottom. That probably helps.
JesterR October 4th, 2010, 08:49 AM They sounds like mid-scoop pedals. Not very natural and lost in band mix.
Piezo bridge seems like better solution.
chuck_zc October 4th, 2010, 08:58 AM Huge volume drop with the Behringer pedal AM100, sounds pretty good though. Not sure about the Behringer AM400 with reverb
jjfatz42 October 4th, 2010, 04:20 PM Thanks for the replies guys. Guess I'll just have to buy one to find out if it'll work for me. I would be running it direct to the PA, not through a regular guitar amp. Seems some good reviews for the Boss pedal at MF. The consensus being sounds good if you run it through the board. Some unwanted noise, but nothing unlivable for a live situation. Sounded like a pretty good solution for some of those reviewers actually gigging & not a 16 year old death metal player.
summer_69 October 5th, 2010, 02:32 AM If were serious about it I would try one of the piezo equipped bridges. Told to sound good. Heard a few but never tried one though.
http://img3.musiciansfriend.com/dbase/pics/products/tn/4/3/4/224434.jpg
winny pooh October 5th, 2010, 08:01 AM Line 6 guitar or an actual acoustic...
TG October 5th, 2010, 09:08 AM IMO most amplified acoustic 'solutions' tend to be a huge compromise on the sound of an actual acoustic guitar. Best to approach them by dealing with the sound that you get from them and accepting it as such, and not to expect a 'real' acoustic tone. By that I mean that they can be useful in certain situations or certain songs...but you wouldn't expect to use an acoustic simulator to do your Doc Watson tribute set.
cntry666 October 5th, 2010, 11:34 AM I have never found an acoustic modeler that works right. I mean they can simulate that terrible Ovation sound but I'm talking real acoustic. That plastic sound is no good. Either try and play as clean as possible for bring an acoustic.
00JETT October 5th, 2010, 01:56 PM Fishman Powerbridge.... Have a listen. I had the tune-O-matic one on a Les Paul, and now an Epiphone Riviera. Its the best sound Piezo I have tried. Others can sound a little thin and sterile, but the Fishman is pretty stinking good. Most people that hear it prefer my epiphone to alot of cheaper acoustics that are fed to a PA. You have to really put money into a good acoustic to get better. Its very sensitive to eq tweaking and adding a bit of verb gives it some of the body that can lack from not having a full sized jumbo.
jjfatz42 October 6th, 2010, 11:07 AM Hey thanks some more. I understand that it will be a compromise. I've got the LR Baggs A1 in my 70's Yamaha. I use it for my "real" acoustic shows. Just seems when we set up the full band that my real acoustic is just as much of a compromise as anything. Feedback due to volume required to overcome drums...Cramped stage setups making guitar changes a PITA...etc...etc....
I know it isn't gonna sound like a real acoustic. Just wondering if it would be passable in a full band setting.
FYI. The piezo bridge probably isn't gonna happen due to cost (& I like the vintage style bridges). At least this will probably be a last resort type of thing.
As always the advice is still much appreciated as I didn't even know something like that existed.
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