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Single coil sized p90?

hessodreamy
September 23rd, 2010, 08:24 AM
Is there such thing as a p90 that fits into a single coil size slot?
And do they sound any good?

Rob DiStefano
September 23rd, 2010, 09:05 AM
there are a few out there in pickup land, harmonic design for one.

but in all truthfulness, part of the real deal p90 tone is its build, which is a very short height and a very squat fat coil. anything else is a compromise of sorts. imo.

mgwhit
September 23rd, 2010, 09:10 AM
Rob is absolutely correct about form-factor being integral to the P90 sound. That being said, I love my Rio Grande Dirty Harry tele bridge pickup. Serious balls. I'm pretty sure they make them strat and tele neck sized, too.

Rob DiStefano
September 23rd, 2010, 09:14 AM
yes, the rio dirty harry. really good, fat p90-like tone.

copperheadroad
September 23rd, 2010, 09:17 AM
i agree the size & shape of the p-90 gives it its character even the humbucker sized p-90 ,phat cat ...... dont quite sound like a full sized p-90

ASC67
September 23rd, 2010, 09:34 AM
The Harmonic design S90 will get you pretty darn close.

fezz parka
September 23rd, 2010, 10:46 AM
What Rob said. The short, wide coil is what give the P90 its unique character, along with the opposing bar magnets and non magnetic polepieces. Take out the magnets and screws, add fender style magnetic slugs and the character changes, like my FP90 (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/just-pickups/220864-fezz-parka-pickups.html#post2614910). The magnetic focus changes giving it more of a jazzmaster vibe.

Stratboy69
September 23rd, 2010, 11:01 AM
I have a Harmonic Design Super 90 (Bridge) and Superchrome (Neck) on order for by G&L ASAT Classic Semi-Hollowbody. Before landing on that choice, I looked at the following, each of which touts P90-like sound in a traditional single-coil sized package:

Klein: http://www.kleinpickups.com/p-38-fat-man-tele-bridge.aspx

Lollar: http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=263&Category_Code=telecaster-pickups

BG Pups: http://www.norcalguitars.com/sc.html

I've never owned a P90-equipped guitar and my HD "P90s" haven't even yet been shipped yet, so I'm not qualified to give any sonic testimony. But you might check out the above links for a starting point.

tattoedsailor
September 23rd, 2010, 11:01 AM
Bill Lawrence L-290TL-E will get you close.

prawnik
September 23rd, 2010, 11:08 AM
The old SD Quarter Pounder and the DiMarzio FS-1 come to mind, but both are Strat pickups.

FuZZBoY
October 24th, 2010, 07:35 AM
Hi,

Stratboy69 : are you satisfied with the HD pups?
I also have an ASAT Classic which I want to put some p90 single coil sized so I'll be glad to know what you think! :grin:

Stylemaster
October 26th, 2010, 10:24 AM
I have a Harmonic Design Super 90 (Bridge) and Superchrome (Neck) on order for by G&L ASAT Classic Semi-Hollowbody.

I have this set and it is unbelievable for rock & blues. They were the hit of the last NY Amp Show when I plugged in to demo each and every amp. People were amazed at the sound and balls coming out of what looked like a traditional blackguard Tele. I've never had pickups that push the front end of an amp the way these do. Unfortunately the high output (it's huge) comes with huge 60 cycle hum and I've been haplessly and hopelessly trying to replace them with hum canceling pickups but nothing has come close in sound, dynamics, character and output. :cry:

frankie5fingers
November 5th, 2010, 09:36 PM
Pete Biltoff at Vintage Vibe pickups makes an S90, a P90 in a Strat sized pup. I had a Strat with them. It's not quite as "broad" sounding as a full sized P90 but it'd be pretty hard to tell the difference is a blind test. Plenty of growl and grit, much better than you'd expect. You can order them with Alinco2's, A3's or A5's.

boneyguy
November 5th, 2010, 09:54 PM
Pete Biltoft (vintagevibeguitars.com) also makes a T-90 for Tele.

Here's a clip sent to me by TDPRI member Steinar Gregertsen. I don't think he would mind me posting it here. This is the Vintage Vibe T-90 neck position. I think it sounds great.

https://webmail.shaw.ca/attach/Take%20Five.mp3?sid=&mbox=INBOX&charset=escaped_unicode&uid=4730&number=4&filename=Take%20Five.mp3

Tarnisher
November 5th, 2010, 10:36 PM
Lauzon used to make a P-90 for Tele bridge, but it doesn't seem to be on his site anymore: http://www.lauzonpickups.com/#tele

Yes, it's in French.

SMark
November 5th, 2010, 11:27 PM
I have this set and it is unbelievable for rock & blues. They were the hit of the last NY Amp Show when I plugged in to demo each and every amp. People were amazed at the sound and balls coming out of what looked like a traditional blackguard Tele. I've never had pickups that push the front end of an amp the way these do. Unfortunately the high output (it's huge) comes with huge 60 cycle hum and I've been haplessly and hopelessly trying to replace them with hum canceling pickups but nothing has come close in sound, dynamics, character and output. :cry:

I have a Strat loaded with a Super 90 bridge and Vintage Plus neck/middle and they give me some of the fattest Strat tones I could ever want. The Super 90 is as close to a real P90 as I have ever heard. Here's a recording I made with it a few years ago...
http://marksmitchell1.home.mindspring.com/HDpupsFDP.mp3

I also use the Suhr BPSSC system with this Strat to keep it quiet.

Bardenstruck
November 5th, 2010, 11:58 PM
http://www.lundgren.se/index.asp?folid=20&micid=25

http://www.lundgren.se/index.asp?folid=20&micid=27

Rob DiStefano
November 6th, 2010, 05:58 AM
there's a reason why a p90 looks the way it does - a large part of the p90 tone is in its footprint; a short, squat and very wide coil (which is also why it produces more noise than a strat or tele pup). you can't accurately replicate that p90 tone with a taller and narrower bobbin.

Brudr
November 6th, 2010, 09:24 PM
Pete Biltoff at Vintage Vibe pickups makes an S90, a P90 in a Strat sized pup. I had a Strat with them. It's not quite as "broad" sounding as a full sized P90 but it'd be pretty hard to tell the difference is a blind test. Plenty of growl and grit, much better than you'd expect. You can order them with Alinco2's, A3's or A5's.

Just put a set of Vintage Vibe T90's in a Parts Tele today. I went with the ALNICO V magnets and they compared very closely to a set of Fralin p90's I have in another Tele. With 500K pots, they have plenty of mid-range growl, but also a little more high end "sparkle" than the Fralins. I am very impressed with how p90 like these are. They are also less noisy than the Fralins even though they are wound a bit hotter. I agree with Rob that you can't duplicate the tone exactly, but these are very close. My hats off to Mr. Biltoft! Well done!:grin:

Geo
November 6th, 2010, 10:40 PM
Not sure which position your mean but the Fender Texas Specials do a very close
job without mods. I play a 56 Historic Les Paul reissue a lot and don't have to change
much to nothing amp wise going to a Tele with the Fender Texas Special pickups.

BiggerJohn
November 6th, 2010, 11:50 PM
What Rob said. The short, wide coil is what give the P90 its unique character, along with the opposing bar magnets and non magnetic polepieces. Take out the magnets and screws, add fender style magnetic slugs and the character changes, like my FP90 (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/just-pickups/220864-fezz-parka-pickups.html#post2614910). The magnetic focus changes giving it more of a jazzmaster vibe.

Fralin has made a P-90 like that. Alnico slug magnets as pole pieces in a P-90 coil. You hit the nail on the head, the one I heard definitely has a sound midway between a real P-90 and a Jazzmaster. Candidly Fez, I think those things sound great.

fezz parka
November 7th, 2010, 10:49 AM
Thanks man. I have the FP90's in my jazzbox too. Great clarity, with a touch of P90 raunch if needed. Will give any P90 guitar a little more "fendery" sound.