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Custom Shotgun Shell Knobs

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:43 PM
Alright, I promised another member to post a shotgun shell knob thread.

This is how I go about making custom knobs from things like shotgun shells. However, you could adapt this technique to any kind of custom knob you want. The reason I do it this way is because I make knobs that easily go on and off the pots.

I looked through my ammunition drawer and dug out these two old turkey load twelve gauge shells.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2267.jpg
These are not shells you want to go through by the box at the range, they pack quite a wallop!
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2270.jpg
I like to use my metal cutting bandsaw for small pieces like this for two reasons, 1) it has finer teeth, so it both cuts cleaners and won't rip things from your hand and 2) It cuts slower, so I can more accurately cut the brass from the plastic hulls.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2271.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:46 PM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2274.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2276.jpg

It is important to clean all the powder residue from the shells, so the epoxy has a good place to bind. So I rinse and wash with DNA
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2277.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2278.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:51 PM
I make sure the shells are flush by flattening the bottom on my small disc/belt sander.
These small disc sanders are outstanding for this detail work, because a large 12" disc sander will rip stuff from your hands, which will cause you to run your fingernail into the sand paper, and it will take it down to the quick in NO TIME!
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2275.jpg
In case you are wondering, I did this before I cleaned the shells. I just got ahead of myself posting.
Then using a 2 part putty epoxy, I fill the voids in the shells. I fill them proud, and avoid mushrooming the epoxy over the edges.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2280.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2281.jpg

I fill the putty in there proud, so I can sand it down flush. That way all the voids will be filled, and the kneeding lines wont show making it look like gray matter on a cracked skull.

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:55 PM
After giving that ample time to dry, I once again use my small belt/disc sander to sand the epoxy flush and pretty.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2284.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2283.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2285.jpg

Now comes the fun part, polishing! I use my bench grinder/buffer combo to buff all my metal projects. You have to watch these metal buffers, they make look harmless but if you angle the working piece wrong, go too low on the wheel, or press to hard the cloth wheel will grab the piece from your hand and fling it violently, which ussually results in a dented, scratched, dinged, or broken piece.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2287.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:57 PM
The end results are well worth the risk though. Just be careful! Take precautions!
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2289.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2295.jpg

Then I have to dissect the donor knobs. In this case, a pair of ugly creme WD strat knobs.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2362.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2363.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 06:58 PM
Here is the inner core I was after.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2364.jpg
I clean it up in a similar manner.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2365.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2366.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 07:01 PM
Then I take my center finder square (well, that is what it is at the moment) and mark the centers. Since the knobs aren't perfect circles, I am taking the average.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2360.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2361.jpg
Using my drill index I figure out what size hole I need to drill, 7/16".
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2370.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2367.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 07:02 PM
Secure the pieces, set my depthstop, and drill!
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2368.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2369.jpg
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2370.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 07:05 PM
Then I just glue the inserts in with my good ole CA glue.
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2374.jpg

If you go light on the glue, you can position the knob on the potentiometer and set it without any wobble and lined up nice and perpendicular. Then when it dries just pop it off, dress the bottom up if you want, and you are good to go!
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/Shotgun%20Shell%20Knobs/100_2292.jpg

Thanks for baring with me on this fairly tedious and boring thread.

BritishBluesBoy
September 17th, 2010, 07:06 PM
Nice!!

napawino
September 17th, 2010, 07:07 PM
Let's see them on a guitar!!!!

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 07:13 PM
Let's see them on a guitar!!!!

Well, I have to admit. I haven't finished these. I still need to dress up the bottom. But here is another set I built on a guitar.

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/100_1264.jpg

Birdmankustomz
September 17th, 2010, 07:16 PM
Sweet, I'll have to fav. this for later

PennyCentury
September 17th, 2010, 08:39 PM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 08:44 PM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)

I would recommend spent shells, because cutting, grinding, and buffing live primers might not go so well.

WrayGun
September 17th, 2010, 08:49 PM
Very cool and creative. Just wondering, does the brass (I assume it's brass) tarnish up after a while? Or do you lacquer them?

BTW, I have a grocery bag of used 12g shells in the attic if anyone wants them :)

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 08:53 PM
Very cool and creative. Just wondering, does the brass (I assume it's brass) tarnish up after a while? Or do you lacquer them?

BTW, I have a grocery bag of used 12g shells in the attic if anyone wants them :)

That brass will tarnish and corrode very quickly touching them with your bare hands.

If you wanted to keep them shiny, I would recommend dipping them in some Boiled linseed oil or thinned lacquer. But I think part of the rustic appeal of using shot shell brass is the tarnishing factor.

You could also use low brass shells, which are generally silver colored and you could color coordinate withe the the plastic hulls.

tdowns
September 17th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Very cool and creative. How did the concentricity turn out?

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 09:20 PM
Very cool and creative. How did the concentricity turn out?

One is a lil better than the other, but not too bad. I am happy with the way they turned out.

tdowns
September 17th, 2010, 09:38 PM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)
Aww Mommy. Just go for it. If your pickin is REAL HOT one night, the audience and band mates would think it was cool if the primer popped. Maybe it would self launch off the pot shaft!!! :shock: :lol:

One is a lil better than the other, but not too bad. I am happy with the way they turned out.

Yea...hitting dead center of a circle is hard to do with any tool. If the knurled insert could be more "press fit" it would help too. I bet it's still better than a set screw knob on a split shaft pot!!

Colt W. Knight
September 17th, 2010, 09:57 PM
Aww Mommy. Just go for it. If your pickin is REAL HOT one night, the audience and band mates would think it was cool if the primer popped. Maybe it would self launch off the pot shaft!!! :shock: :lol:



Yea...hitting dead center of a circle is hard to do with any tool. If the knurled insert could be more "press fit" it would help too. I bet it's still better than a set screw knob on a split shaft pot!!

Much better! And after an 870 ejects those shells out on the ground, they are no longer perfect circles. I do pretty good with my wood working tools, but you would really need a metal lathe or something similar to nails these perfect.

hockeygoon
September 17th, 2010, 10:07 PM
Man, that is an awesome step-by-step, thanks.

Jack Wells
September 18th, 2010, 12:45 AM
And after an 870 ejects those shells out on the ground, they are no longer perfect circles.

I'll have to see how round they are after being ejected from a Mossberg 500 Persuader.

oramac7891
September 18th, 2010, 12:57 AM
Colt, those are amazing. Nice job

Angierc
September 18th, 2010, 01:35 AM
and Ill check my 1100

kool Colt
thanks

jkingma
September 18th, 2010, 07:26 AM
Very cool. Thanks for showing that Colt.

Oh and BTW. You can buy the shaft inserts instead of cutting up good knobs. Here are some available on "The Bay"... 40 pieces for 7 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200511973806&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Colt W. Knight
September 18th, 2010, 08:28 AM
Very cool. Thanks for showing that Colt.

Oh and BTW. You can buy the shaft inserts instead of cutting up good knobs. Here are some available on "The Bay"... 40 pieces for 7 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200511973806&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT


Excellent, thats cheaper than a set of strat knobs.

deaconque
September 18th, 2010, 11:25 AM
Very cool. Thanks for showing that Colt.

Oh and BTW. You can buy the shaft inserts instead of cutting up good knobs. Here are some available on "The Bay"... 40 pieces for 7 bucks.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200511973806&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

Thank you so much for this tip. I've been looking for these for a long time but never knew what they were called.

robt57
September 18th, 2010, 11:27 AM
With live primers on your guitar, it could bering new meaning to ther term, live performance...

ADinNYC
September 18th, 2010, 11:49 AM
So very cool...nice job showing how it's done.

I kind of like the non-polished look better.

Jack Wells
September 18th, 2010, 01:48 PM
If you cut the end off of a CO2 cartridge. It's a snug fit inside the 12 gauge brass casing. It gives you something to hold on to while your buffing the brass. It also makes a little container although I don't know what you could use it for. Perhaps pills or BBs.

......http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab34/Jack393/DSC05727.jpg

Colt W. Knight
September 18th, 2010, 01:57 PM
If you cut the end off of a CO2 cartridge. It's a snug fit inside the 12 gauge brass casing. It gives you something to hold on to while your buffing the brass. It also makes a little container although I don't know what you could use it for. Perhaps pills or BBs.

......http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab34/Jack393/DSC05727.jpg

You can also buff them before you cut the plastic hulls off too.

adirondak5
September 18th, 2010, 02:09 PM
Hey Colt , great thread , Colt , when you drill out for the bushing if you clamped a scrap piece of 3/4 wood , mdf , etc to your drill press and drilled out a hole the size of the brass and then stuck the brass in the hole epoxy side up and changed bits out to the size of the bushing and then drilled it should be perfectly centered.

robt57
September 18th, 2010, 02:20 PM
What is the ID of the Shell section as compared to the OD of a actual knob. Wondering if you could press/glue the shell over a regular knob...

Colt W. Knight
September 18th, 2010, 02:26 PM
What is the ID of the Shell section as compared to the OD of a actual knob. Wondering if you could press/glue the shell over a regular knob...

Most tele knobs are 0.75-.755" OD. The ID of a 12 gauge shell is less than 3/4". Plus you would have to drill a hole through the brass to access the set screw.

Colt W. Knight
September 18th, 2010, 02:29 PM
Hey Colt , great thread , Colt , when you drill out for the bushing if you clamped a scrap piece of 3/4 wood , mdf , etc to your drill press and drilled out a hole the size of the brass and then stuck the brass in the hole epoxy side up and changed bits out to the size of the bushing and then drilled it should be perfectly centered.

That would have worked great if I had a drill bit the size of the brass, but my forstner bits are in 1/8" increments. But that is how I was going to do it at first, but no such luck.

yonie
September 18th, 2010, 02:31 PM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)

I was just wondering - isn't that dangerous to do? Then I read your post and thought 'doh'.

Us dutchies are no good with stuff like this :mrgreen:

MN Punk
September 18th, 2010, 03:07 PM
I like this concept a lot. I've been meaning to try staining/finishing an entire tele body with gunstock oil. This would be an obvious opportunity to try the shotgun knob trick. :)

Hmm... And maybe a brass pickguard would be the way to go with such a project.

rolling56
September 18th, 2010, 03:09 PM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)

:lol: ok mom :twisted:

Doubletriode
September 19th, 2010, 02:09 PM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/100_1264.jpg[/QUOTE]

Am I the only one who spotted the selector knob?

Just the finishing touch that was needed :lol:
You could show us the making of these too.

BTW, it could be nice to recess the inserts as the knobs sit a little high...
Obviously it is always easier to add something to a good idea than coming up with a good one.

Yours is good for sure :smile:

Regards
Silvio

Colt W. Knight
September 19th, 2010, 02:41 PM
http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm308/coltwknight/100_1264.jpg

Am I the only one who spotted the selector knob?

Just the finishing touch that was needed :lol:
You could show us the making of these too.

BTW, it could be nice to recess the inserts as the knobs sit a little high...
Obviously it is always easier to add something to a good idea than coming up with a good one.

Yours is good for sure :smile:

Regards
Silvio[/QUOTE]

That selector switch is a .40 cal shell. I simply cut it to length, filled it with epoxy, and stuck it on the switch.

If you pull it off, and let it harden, you can make it removable. If it fits a little loose, you can shim it with a small piece of paper or hay.

The knobs on that green guitar are high in that picture, but I actually lowered the pots to make them sit down on the plate better. Back then I didn't take a lot of photos like I do now. I was trying to hide to many mistakes. :sad:

misterecks
September 19th, 2010, 02:47 PM
Cool idea, if we were allowed firearms over here I'd make some of those!!

Colt W. Knight
September 19th, 2010, 03:00 PM
Cool idea, if we were allowed firearms over here I'd make some of those!!

One of the benefits of breaking away from the crown I guess. :mrgreen:

misterecks
September 19th, 2010, 03:09 PM
One of the benefits of breaking away from the crown I guess. :mrgreen:

:mrgreen: That and cheap gas!!

Colt W. Knight
September 19th, 2010, 03:25 PM
Gasoline was 96 cents per gallon when I started driving. Now it is closer to three dollars a gallon.

misterecks
September 19th, 2010, 03:46 PM
We are paying the equivalent of $6.70 per US gallon at the moment!!! Now you'll understand why we aren't allowed guns :lol:

Jack Wells
September 19th, 2010, 04:26 PM
When I started driving gasoline was selling for around 27 cents a gallon. When they had gas wars it was even less. We used to put in a dollars worth and cruise all night.

SixShooter
September 19th, 2010, 10:37 PM
Thanks for posting this Colt. Very classy and the step by step is a big help. Now I am scouring the house looking for other items to turn into knobs.

MN Punk
September 19th, 2010, 10:49 PM
Cool idea, if we were allowed firearms over here I'd make some of those!!

I'm pretty sure one of us could mail you some spent shells without breaking any laws.

kwerk
September 19th, 2010, 11:15 PM
If you cut the end off of a CO2 cartridge....

MOOOOOOOOMM!!?? :shock: :mrgreen:

Colt W. Knight
September 20th, 2010, 11:46 PM
I'm pretty sure one of us could mail you some spent shells without breaking any laws.

I believe break action shotguns are legal across the pond, but they probably have a lot of stipulations.

Strummer69
September 21st, 2010, 12:11 AM
:grin:Cool thread, great idea!

Did you see the guy selling the ones on ebay? They are different, but seem pretty cool, and the "buy it now" price doesn't seem too bad. I may order a set and try them since I'm not really that handy (nor do I have a bandsaw:sad:). Have any of you ever ordered or seen the ebay ones in real life? He says they come in different sizes and finishes too. I might want to do one of each in silver, but the gold looks pretty cool too. What do you think?

http://i56.tinypic.com/2zhmo9z.jpg

http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SHOTGUN-KNOBS-FENDER-TELE-not-skulls-metal-custom-/260665587884?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cb0e138ac#ht_573wt_1137 http://cgi.ebay.com/2-SHOTGUN-KNOBS-FENDER-TELE-not-skulls-metal-custom-/260665587884?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3cb0e138ac#ht_573wt_1137

Colt W. Knight
September 21st, 2010, 12:25 AM
:grin:Cool thread, great idea!
Thank you
Did you see the guy selling the ones on ebay? NoThey are different, but seem pretty cool, and the "buy it now" price doesn't seem too bad. I may order a set and try them since I'm not really that handy (nor do I have a bandsaw:sad:). Have any of you ever ordered or seen the ebay ones in real life? Nope He says they come in different sizes and finishes too. I might want to do one of each in silver, but the gold looks pretty cool too. It's actually polished brass. What do you think?
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When I think shells, I think brass, so I think some of the appeal would be lost in a silver looking finish

Those ebay knobs look killer though, I bet they work better than my homemade deals.

Strummer69
September 21st, 2010, 01:20 AM
Thanks for the feedback colt. I think yours look pretty killer too, plus you get to say you made them. :grin: I think you are right about the brass ones being more what I think of when I think shotgun shells, but the silver may match my axe a bit better. I like his idea about using different sized knobs (20 and 12's), I'm just not sure whether it will look cooler or weird. But for only $16 it is worth giving it a shot (no pun intended). :roll:

lespauljr
September 21st, 2010, 02:04 AM
Superb! I will have to try that along with 45 caliber fret markers. I used to work at the factory where the screwdriver in post number 2 came from.

ndelnegro
September 21st, 2010, 03:02 AM
cool post

Westerly Sunn
September 21st, 2010, 06:26 AM
If you cut the end off of a CO2 cartridge. It's a snug fit inside the 12 gauge brass casing. It gives you something to hold on to while your buffing the brass. It also makes a little container although I don't know what you could use it for. Perhaps pills or BBs.

......http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab34/Jack393/DSC05727.jpg

Lipstick for the Tin Man's girlfriend...

Westerly Sunn
September 21st, 2010, 06:34 AM
Can I add the obvious here, to make sure the shells you're going to cut up are shells that have been USED! (automatic "Mom" reaction)

(Just watching out for everyone here)

When I was a kid I'd open live shells and take the powder for other games, then cut the live primered brass free to use as blanks or stuff the waddings down the barrel of the shotgun and use the brass as a charge to shoot the waddings as soft low velocity projectiles...

Mama didn't know... :lol:

Colt W. Knight
September 21st, 2010, 09:42 AM
When I was a kid I'd open live shells and take the powder for other games, then cut the live primered brass free to use as blanks or stuff the waddings down the barrel of the shotgun and use the brass as a charge to shoot the waddings as soft low velocity projectiles...

Mama didn't know... :lol:

Remind me to never buy a used firearm from you!:mrgreen:

jkingma
September 21st, 2010, 10:01 AM
When I was a kid I'd open live shells and take the powder for other games, then cut the live primered brass free to use as blanks or stuff the waddings down the barrel of the shotgun and use the brass as a charge to shoot the waddings as soft low velocity projectiles...


I did the same thing once (once) and when my Dad caught me he booted my a$$ to Friday and back.

Colt W. Knight
September 21st, 2010, 10:04 AM
I did the same thing once (once) and when my Dad caught me he booted my a$$ to Friday and back.

I think that would have been getting off light with my dad if I had ever done anything like that.

Strummer69
September 21st, 2010, 01:46 PM
Superb! I will have to try that along with 45 caliber fret markers. I used to work at the factory where the screwdriver in post number 2 came from.

I am really interested in seeing .45 fret markers. I'm definitely going to try a set of those ebay shotgun knobs, but fret markers would be awesome. I'm just afraid of permanently damaging my guitars by improper installation of fret markers. I can see drilling slightly to recess them, but what would you glue them in with? and do you think the rough surface would create problems when bending?

Colt W. Knight
September 21st, 2010, 01:58 PM
I am really interested in seeing .45 fret markers. I'm definitely going to try a set of those ebay shotgun knobs, but fret markers would be awesome. I'm just afraid of permanently damaging my guitars by improper installation of fret markers. I can see drilling slightly to recess them, but what would you glue them in with? and do you think the rough surface would create problems when bending?


With the fret markers, you would recess them below the fretboard, glue them in with CA glue, then fill the above void with clear epoxy, when it dries you would radius it giving you a perfectly smooth playing surface.

jb12string
June 29th, 2011, 12:05 AM
Old thread, but, if you know someone who reloads, a vibratory tumbler would do a pretty decent job of polishing the brass without the possibility of flinging it across the room. Also, a live primer could be deactivated by soaking it in a penetrating oil (kroil or WD-40 would work well) then, with the proper equipment, you could remove the spent primer and insert the live looking but inactivated primer.

scantron81
June 29th, 2011, 01:45 AM
#1: great idea!
#2: Great Wingmaster! I have a '65 WM.
#3: You are brave.

R. Stratenstein
June 29th, 2011, 08:43 PM
The e-bay ones look like they've had the lettering filled with paint, giving them kind of a heavy, almost "replica" look, to my eye. I prefer Colt's "natural' polished/tarnished look. With brass knobs, selector switch knob, fret markers, maybe a brass pickguard, brass frets (?), you'd better invest in a giant tumbler or vibratory polisher to keep yer axe all shiny!

rcboals
January 10th, 2013, 11:25 AM
Just did these with 16 gauge shotgun shell for volume and tone and a 8mm Luger for the switch tip. Colt, thanks for the great idea.

Maricopa
January 10th, 2013, 12:27 PM
You guys are gonna be sorry when your Tele's wind up on a Federal list. :wink:

djangoRobinson2
January 10th, 2013, 01:18 PM
http://www.awelldressedbullet.ca/shotgun-shell-guitar-knobs.html

dtermined2play
January 10th, 2013, 01:43 PM
Wow, that is a lot of work for those knobs. Great job btw. I made some for a Cowboy Strat and all I did was but off the plastic and knock out the center where the firing pin strikes and it went on the post perfectly, no epoxy needed.

I will take a pic and update when I get home.

rcboals
January 10th, 2013, 03:35 PM
Wow, that is a lot of work for those knobs. Great job btw. I made some for a Cowboy Strat and all I did was but off the plastic and knock out the center where the firing pin strikes and it went on the post perfectly, no epoxy needed.

I will take a pic and update when I get home.

Less than 1 hour the way I did it. For the tip switch a Strat style switch tip fits right inside a 8mm Luger shell (the shell is perfect length and diameter as is) put some quick set epoxy in the shell about a 1/4 inch total push the strat tip in the shell have a paper towel to wipe of the excess epoxy as it pushes out the shell. Hold it in place for a few minutes and your done. The common push on tele style on metal knobs fit right inside a 16 gauge shell. You do have to cut off a 1/4 inch or so off the top of the knob. On the knob in pic cut at the first line from the top about 1/4" pic of knob and shell below) You clean out the inside of the shotgun shell base with your Dremel tool. Put a little epoxy in the shell and push knob in I used my vise tight fit IMPORTANT MAKE SURE THE SHELL HAS BEEN FIRED. ONLY USE BULLETS OR SHELLS THAN HAVE BEEN FIRED If you don't and you hit the primer cap in the shell it can explode like a fire cracker and can hurt you.

Jack Wells
January 10th, 2013, 03:56 PM
....Strat style switch tip fits right inside a 8mm Luger shell

You sure about that? Maybe you mean 9 mm Luger. It's more common.

R. Stratenstein
January 10th, 2013, 09:56 PM
You sure about that? Maybe you mean 9 mm Luger. It's more common.

Wildcatter.:mrgreen:

rcboals
January 11th, 2013, 01:29 PM
You sure about that? Maybe you mean 9 mm Luger. It's more common.

Yes 8 mm Luger it is not so common but fairly easy to come by. The 8 mm Luger is nice and tight you could probably use a 9mm or 380 just would need some more epoxy filler around the switch tip.

icabod5000
January 11th, 2013, 02:00 PM
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kwerk
January 11th, 2013, 07:13 PM
Not a firearm fan in any stratch of the imagination, in fact, more of an anti-firearm fan to be honest, but despite this being the last thread I would have thought to get ideas from, I have found the perfect idea for my next build, as far as knobs are concerned anyway.

Not the brass end, but the other end. :wink:

http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab34/Jack393/DSC05727.jpg

Thanks to whomever posted that. I've been trying to figure out a way to make round headed knobs, and the CO2 cartridge would be the perfect thing. So gun shops are now useful for two things as far as I personally am concerned: Tru Oil and CO2 cartridges. :mrgreen:

Jack Wells
January 12th, 2013, 11:24 AM
I doubt you'll find C02 cartridges in a gun shop. At least not the ones I frequent. You'll find them in a place that sell BB pistols.

LarsOS
January 12th, 2013, 11:57 AM
round headed knobs

That CO2 cartridge looks a bit like a cigar tube to me, only less shiny.

(I would have linked to a Google image search, but their new asynchroneous interface won't give me the correct url.)

Jack Wells
January 12th, 2013, 12:38 PM
Are you trying to show a cigar tube?

http://www.uptowns.com/images/DA20243%20Robusto%20Hallmark%20Silver%20Cigar%20Tu be.jpg

The C02 cartridge is made of steel. If you want a shiny knob you could polish it with a bench grinder buffing wheel. Best to polish the end before you cut it. I suggest cutting it with a tubing cutter.

......http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/jwells393/NewAlbum2/CO2Cartridge_zps80113cab.jpg

Barncaster
January 12th, 2013, 01:20 PM
Hmmmm,

That think looks like half vibrator, half shotgun shell. What is going on down there in NZ these days???????

Rob

kwerk
January 12th, 2013, 09:12 PM
I doubt you'll find C02 cartridges in a gun shop. At least not the ones I frequent. You'll find them in a place that sell BB pistols.

Gun shops here sell BB and pellet guns, non-auto rifles and shotguns. (No auto rifles or pistols legally allowed in NZ unless you're a licenced militaria collector).

Of course, you can also get them from bike stores and catering outfits as they are used for instant bike pumps and also for soda and cream dispensers.

What you suggested re the CO2 cartridges is pretty much what I had in mind. I'd probably polish to get a nice even surface the steel wool it to get an "anodised" look. I'd be wary of how easy a cigar tube would be to work with, at least a commercial one that comes with a cigar. That sterling silver one is nice, but it might be a little excessive costwise to get a couple just to slice up!!

Good to hear from you, Jack, we don't seem to hear much from you these days. :smile:

Bentley
January 12th, 2013, 09:21 PM
Well I would have had an abundance of shotgun shells before I moved, my friend is addicted to guns.. seriously, everyone in his family has their own gun case. My dad's never been one for hunting, so I guess I never really have either.