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Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 11:28 AM My Boss sd-1 broke. I liked it, good pedal but I need to run out and buy another pedal asap. I need to get by on the cheap, maybe $50. Any other pedals I should look at? I did see the Visual sound Drive Train which looks like a promising alternative...
http://www.visualsound.net/index.php/sound_samples/garagetone_drivetrain_samples
Thanks
11 Gauge June 24th, 2010, 11:51 AM What broke, as far as you know?
Send it to me and I'll resuscitate it. Shipping to and from OH & MD is peanuts. Parts are cheap (it may not even need any!). I'll typically know really fast what is wrong - I've had about 300 SD-1's apart in the past 5 years or so.
I also have a couple of them that I can part with for (what my wife would consider) a stupid price.
If you like the pedal you were using, it's better (IMO) to stick with it, especially if a repair is easy and cheap - and should keep it ticking for a long time to come.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 11:54 AM I appreciate that offer 11 but I already gave it to a friend of mine who does electronics repair but it's a timing thing. I rely heavily on that pedal and need one for a gig. So I can end up owning two or I can get a different second one just because.
That really is a gernerous offer. Thank you.
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 11:58 AM Your right in Ridgetucky man, if you can meet me North Olmsted this afternoon, I'll be out there between 1 and 3 Pm, I'll loan you my spare Blues Driver. Not the same thing as an SD-1, but it'll give you some dirt 'til you get back to where you want to be.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:04 PM Jake, good to hear from you man!!!!
Unfortunately I'm way out on the east side today but another generous offer!
I used to have one of the Boss blues drivers. It's a good pedal. I can afford to blow the $50 and I love pedals, they are toys for guitar players, but this is the one pedal I absolutely use all the time. I have a DS-1 too but even with the distortion all the way down it still sounds like a distortion pedal.
Maybe I'm just too particular.
11 Gauge June 24th, 2010, 12:04 PM I appreciate that offer 11 but I already gave it to a friend of mine who does electronics repair but it's a timing thing.
Do you need it for a gig this weekend? I'll ship you one of mine. We can work out the cost later. You could return it later. Just trying to give some options that will work in a timeframe, and save money.
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 12:05 PM No you're right on. The DS-1 is NOT the same animal as an OD. If you are on the east side, get over to E. 185th and Windward. The Music Emporium. Tim Johnson is there, I'd be really surprised if he doesn't have something to fit your needs, and your budget. Hit him up. Tell him Harper sent you!
dguitar3 June 24th, 2010, 12:06 PM Maybe a Cool Cat? Those are all stellar pedals and all are cheap.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:07 PM No you're right on. The DS-1 is NOT the same animal as an OD. If you are on the east side, get over to E. 185th and Windward. The Music Emporium. Tim Johnson is there, I'd be really surprised if he doesn't have something to fit your needs, and your budget. Hit him up. Tell him Harper sent you!
Great! I am not too far from there. I will go!
Thanks bud!
I did a google maps and I am about 10 minutes away.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:15 PM Maybe a Cool Cat? Those are all stellar pedals and all are cheap.
Stellar? WOW that thing is $15.
I'm not doubting you but in a world full of $300 pedals it's hard to believe!
I wonder if they will have one up for demo?
middy June 24th, 2010, 12:24 PM Is a tube screamer just too obvious, or what?
dguitar3 June 24th, 2010, 12:27 PM Stellar? WOW that thing is $15.
I'm not doubting you but in a world full of $300 pedals it's hard to believe!
I wonder if they will have one up for demo?
Hmm. Not sure what you're seeing, but they are more than that. Between $30-$60 depending on which one you get. Here's a link. Look up posts about them here. They are killer.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/navigation?q=cool+cat
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:27 PM The tube screamer wasn't obvious to me because I never tried one. I'm assuming from your comment it is a great pedal and a good bang for the buck. I will try it if they have one.
Isn't that an expensive distortion pedal though?
Thanks
dguitar3 June 24th, 2010, 12:29 PM It wasn't obvious to me because I never tried one. I'm assuming from your comment it is a great pedal and a good bang for the buck. I will try it if they have one.
Thanks
Cool Cat is actually a line of pedals made by Danelectro. I see you on here everyday. It's hard to believe you haven't seen the many many posts about them. Anyway, best of luck!
By the way, I don't know if they have anything comparable to a DS-1. But they have distortions and overdrives and whatnot.
middy June 24th, 2010, 12:30 PM It wasn't obvious to me because I never tried one. I'm assuming from your comment it is a great pedal and a good bang for the buck. I will try it if they have one.
Thanks
Really?! I thought it was the most common overdrive on the planet. Give it a try, I love the things. Get the TS-9 or TS-808 re-issue though.
You can usually find a TS-9 used for about $50.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:32 PM Cool Cat is actually a line of pedals made by Danelectro. I see you on here everyday. It's hard to believe you haven't seen the many many posts about them. Anyway, best of luck!
Sorry for the misunderstanding dguitar I was refering to the tube screamer in that post.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 12:34 PM Really?! I thought it was the most common overdrive on the planet. Give it a try, I love the things. Get the TS-9 or TS-808 re-issue though.
You can usually find a TS-9 used for about $50.
It could be and I believe SRV used a TS-808 unless I'm mistaken. I love his tone!
11 Gauge June 24th, 2010, 12:37 PM The tube screamer wasn't obvious to me because I never tried one.
Isn't that an expensive distortion pedal though?
Relative to the SD-1 (which is super similar) it is, unless you are considering a used one, a copy of the TS, or a TS7 or something of that ilk.
...The "true" TS9's and up by both Ibanez and Maxon are a bit higher in price (new regular retail price).
My biggest bone of contention with the Ibanez/Maxon stuff is that there is the possibility of problems with the stomp switch mechanism, and you've already had one pedal break.
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 01:22 PM The Danelectro Cool Cat Transparent Overdrive is an AWESEOME pedal for the bucks. I've had one on my board since Christmas. It's a staple, I love it.
The TS-9 is a good rec. too if you can find a used one. If you like the SD-1, you'll definitely dig it.
As far as SRV, he used lots of Tube Screamers. Like many guys back in the day, he wasn't caught up in a vintage pedal craze, because there really wasn't a craze in those days. The guys wanted the latest and newest. He used the TS-808, TS-9, and TS-10 through his career. Not usually as a base tone though, usually as a solo boost for an already cookin' amp.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 03:00 PM I made it out to the Music Emporium.
Turns out the only Overdrive pedal he has is an SD-1. Very tempting to buy it but I couldn't get past the having more than one when I get mine back.
He has a cool place. It is basically wall to wall, ceiling to floor, eclectic gear. I wanted to break out my wallet and start buying stuff. Nice guy too. He had on old Gibson tweed suitcase amp and a bunch of old fender, Marshall, and Peeveey amps. I had leave as my palms were starting to sweat and money was about to start falling out of my wallet!
GC had SD-1 sticker priced at $99. What the ! is the deal with that?
They had a DN-2 floor model for $50. I did demo it but it was kind of hard to tell playing on a garbage guitar through a garbage amp. Seems like it will do the job but I'm already experiencing buyers remorse. Apparently they don't carry the Visual Sound OD's in the store. They had a digitech that I couldn't try and a Tube Screamer for $179.
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 03:17 PM The DN-2 is a cool pedal, IF you can use it right. Lots of people bought them and returned them, they kind of flopped...
The reason is, they are really touch sensitive. Pick light, it gets real clean, pick hard, it gets real dirty. Most good OD's will do this to varying degrees, but Boss took it to the extreme with the DN-2. It's easy to make it sound bad.
Personally, if I really liked the SD-1, I wouldn't have a problem owning more than one. Nothing wrong with having a backup on hand should you find yourself in this situation again somewhere down the road.
I know what you mean about Tim's place. It's hard not to drop a ton of dough in their on tons of stuff, some of it absolutely silly, but kind of irresistable. It's also a great joint for guitar and amp repair, should you ever have need.
middy June 24th, 2010, 03:20 PM ... a Tube Screamer for $179.
:shock:
I bought a brand new TS-9 for $80 2 years ago... that must have been the TS-808 reissue.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 03:48 PM I really just want to add a little hair so I think if I set the drive at maybe 9 or 10 oclockish and the level to where I get just a little hotter than unity I'll be good.
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 03:54 PM Man, I totally forgot, and if they didn't tell you, they suck. GC has the MXR Classic Overdrive for $29. Great TS style pedal on the cheap. Well made, looks cool, it's even green. I can't believe I forgot about that.
Ash Telecaster June 24th, 2010, 04:38 PM They do suck.
I did see a classic fuzz but not the classic over drive.
Yup I'll be making a swap...after the gig.
flag72 June 24th, 2010, 05:55 PM doe's any body live close to a GC. Ive tried to do a search for that classic overdrive pedal on there web site and was unsucessfull how do you search that item ?????
Daniel
Jakedog June 24th, 2010, 06:01 PM doe's any body live close to a GC. Ive tried to do a search for that classic overdrive pedal on there web site and was unsucessfull how do you search that item ?????
Daniel
They are not on the website. They are an in-store deal only.
flag72 June 24th, 2010, 09:05 PM well I guest Im out of that deal :0(
Dan
leonard d rock June 24th, 2010, 10:05 PM i love the sd-1 and i would probably get another one to keep as stock as the one i have i modded to be more like a ts with symmetric clipping and a true jrc 4558d opamp. with the switching problems i read about the new ts, this would be the way i would go. otoh, i have a ds1 that i modded that at its lowest gain/drive setting, imo it sounds like the sd1 on full gain and both the sd-1 and the ds1 are on my board.
Ash Telecaster June 27th, 2010, 07:12 AM The DN-2 was a difficult animal to tame. I won't go so far as to call it a lousy pedal but I really don't care for it and it reacted really weird with a wah in front of it.
telepath June 27th, 2010, 08:40 AM +1 on the Dano CoolCat Drive.
Genuinely excellent tone. youtube it.! True bypass.
Not necessarily the same tone as your Boss, more like an OCD .. but..:)
Cheap, but deffo not nasty. Then you will always have a backup, should you like it sufficiently.
Ash Telecaster June 27th, 2010, 05:12 PM They didn't have the Dano but they did have the MXR which I got.
It is not what I would consider to be a replacement for the SD-1 but that doesn't mean it isn't good. The SD-1 is smoother. I mean it gets really crunchy when you want it to but works really well on the mildly effected side of the scale which is what I really appreciate about it the most.
The MXR is more like a bluesy distortion pedal. It definitely has a lot more attitude than the SD-1. It really gives a Tele through a Deville a fat bluesy sound. Running the Tele through it and into a Deville it sounds like Johnny Highlands Opus D Funk.
So I will keep it but I still can't wait to get my SD-1 back.
I do plan on trying the Dano. I wonder if they have one availble to demo on the west side or I could try Sam Ash.
Ash Telecaster July 13th, 2010, 02:17 PM Yeah my SD-1 is back and the sun is shining and the birds are singing!
Funny how addicted I am to such an inexpensive pedal!
Jakedog July 13th, 2010, 03:16 PM Yeah my SD-1 is back and the sun is shining and the birds are singing!
Funny how addicted I am to such an inexpensive pedal!
Not really funny at all, you've just found what works for you. You were just lucky enough that what works for you isn't going to cost $300.:lol:
If you can't find a cool cat to demo, I'll slide you mine to try out for a while. I pulled it off my board recently when I got my FD-2 back. It's an awesome pedal. I've been using it with my backup amp as a second rig for the jam night I host.
Just let me know. Glad you got your pedal back, and found a new flavor with the MXR. At least now, if something breaks again, you'll have a steady backup on hand.
Ash Telecaster July 13th, 2010, 04:12 PM That sounds great! Let me know if you're gigging in the Ridgeville/west side area and I'll drag the wife, or the band, out to see you guys and I can get it then.
That FD-2 looks like a really cool pedal!
Greg Koch is selling one, the grissle king. He gets an awesome tone. I wonder if he actually uses it? It looks like he's pushing a 2x12 Fender cabinet with a Princeton. That probably gives him all the grissle he needs.
In truth I have a GT-8 that I use with one band and an ME-50 I use with the work place band and the SD-1 with everything else. I have a DS-1 on the board too but every time I try to use it the drummer complains that my notes aren't distinct enough.
I'm getting tired of the all in one pedals. Especially the ME-50. Maybe I'm just getting bored with it. They are practical and convenient. The GT-8 is much better than the ME-50. I bought it as a multi-effect but what I found is the effects aren't that great but the amp samples are very good. I can easily switch between a clean twin, an overdriven tweed, and a high gain Mesa Boogie, very flexible. Works well in a cover band situation which is were I use it.
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