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moondoggie999 August 23rd, 2004, 12:49 AM I need a good example song (or songs) with Dmaj7 and/or Amaj7 and/or Gmaj7 in open position.
Any Ideas? Dana? CS?
Brett
ps I remember doing Paul McCartneys Band on the Run which had both a dmaj7 and Gmaj7 in the first part...
(Dmaj7) stuck inside these four walls
(Gmaj7) sent inside for ever
maybe that would be a good one but can you all think of some other options?
Thanks
weelie August 23rd, 2004, 03:13 AM JJ Cale's Magnolia... though I don't if it's a good song to you...
Verses
Fmaj7 Cmaj7
Bridge
Am G Am G Fmaj7 Cmaj7
Which you could transpose to Gmaj7 Dmaj7, Bm A Bm A etc. as (according to a tab on the net) Poco did on "Crazy Eyes". I only know the original, and am a big fan of JJs.
Admin August 23rd, 2004, 08:44 AM I need a good example song (or songs) with Dmaj7 and/or Amaj7 and/or Gmaj7 in open position.
Why?
Any Ideas? Dana? CS?
Yeah, but you may have never heard of it: "Don't Let the Sun Catch You Crying," by Gerry & the Pacemakers (and back then that wasn't a joke about a heart-regulating device, although it's pretty funny now, huh? LOL) :-) They were one of the original "British Invasion" bands, and had a string of hits in the 60s.
The first part of the song uses Cmaj7 - x32000 - and Fmaj7 - xx3210 - which you could always transpose to Amaj7 and Dmaj7, I suppose. But here's the useful/relevant part: <u>the first note of the melody is the major 7th</u>, which really helps "nail" the sound of the chord immediately.
Another "dead giveaway major 7th sound" tune would be "Misty" – but again, it's in Eb, not Amaj7 or Dmaj7. Anyway, the first three notes of the melody are (the descending "Look at me..." part) 5 - 3 - maj7. So that "me" is also "ti" (with a moveable "do," of course). Just a little musical pun to brighten your day... sorry. ;-)
Hope it helps. :-) CS
kaibu49 August 23rd, 2004, 09:25 AM Bob Marley "Waiting in Vain"
Gmaj7 to Cmaj7 for the verses (I think, don't have a guitar to pick up right now).
BB August 23rd, 2004, 12:46 PM Chris' suggestion of Don't let the sun catch you crying is a good one. I believe Ferry, Cross to Mercy also by Gerry and the Pacemakers has a few Maj 7ths in it. Also, Beautiful by Gordon Lightfoot and Poor Side of Town by Johnny Rivers ( recently covered by Johnny A on Get Inside ) is another good one. An oldies band I used to be in covered these four and they never failed to pack the dance floor for the "We're gonna slow it down a bit for ya now" moments.
moondoggie999 August 23rd, 2004, 01:26 PM Thanks for all the ideas folks, dont let me stop you now!
Chris: its for my students, I am looking for a good example song. I realized I didn't have *any* examples of open position maj7th chords, only maj7 in Bar chord form (Something - Beatles, Roxanne-Police and a couple other ones)
Some of these songs I hadn't heard of before, some I had. Misty might be a great idea, I had forgotten that one, and maybe make then transpose it into different keys?
A Bob Marley tune, that would be good too!
I would show them the Paul McCartney song I mentioned above but I already teach them a lot of fab4 stuff cause I am a beatle freak, so I was wanting other suggestions than what was popping into my head.
Thanks everyone for contributing, please keep the suggestions coming!
pc August 23rd, 2004, 06:30 PM Chicago - Color My World (first chord = maj7 city)
DaveG August 25th, 2004, 04:50 PM I Need You - America
Bob Mc August 25th, 2004, 05:15 PM Frampton used it too; Show Me The Way?
Rick Towne August 25th, 2004, 07:29 PM The maj7 has always been one of my favorite intervals, along with the maj2. Also "What if I should say I love you" from Poco's "From the Inside".
BB August 25th, 2004, 07:42 PM The maj7 has always been one of my favorite intervals, along with the maj2. Also "What if I should say I love you" from Poco's "From the Inside".
Hey Rick, great song! Another good one ( not many maj 7ths, but cool chords nonetheless ) is "Because" by The Dave Clark Five. I loved songs like that and "Mercy, Mercy, Mercy" back in the day. Jessie Colin Young was also quite the purveyor of Maj7th's & Min7ths in his recordings.
Rick Towne August 25th, 2004, 08:23 PM basic to the Youngbloods' "Ride the wind" descending progression, and Boz Scaggs' "Loan me a dime".....recently done on a PBS broadcast; no Duane Allman, but still a very good guitar outro.
jackleg October 10th, 2004, 08:36 AM studying music in college, early 70's, ear training with piano was a must. Chicago was very popular, and thanks to them, i was able to always identify a Maj7. Color my World's opening arpeggio is: c,e,g,b// b,g,e,c. eureka, a Cmaj7.
Dana October 10th, 2004, 11:46 AM Wow, Maj7th chords in open position. I assume you mean chords that utilize the open strings on the guitar? Off the top of my head I can't really think of any.
If you use bar chords there are tons of jazz standards you can use: All the Things you Are, Alone Together, I Love You, stuff like that. I think Chris's 'Misty' example is good, as well as the Gerry and the Pacemakers, Chicago suggestions.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
moondoggie999 October 10th, 2004, 02:19 PM I've got the changes and heard a few versions of it but do you know of a recorded guitar version of this tune?
I saw the Erroll Garner original piano version on Amazon and a Quincy Jones/Sarah Vaughn version.
Or Whats your fav recorded version of this tune?
(Ps, you guys are great, thanks for all this help!)
kaibu49 October 10th, 2004, 02:42 PM The maj7 has always been one of my favorite intervals, along with the maj2.
I didn't catch this weeks ago...maj2
Can you explaing a maj2? provide the chord formula or tab a chord? Thanks!
Admin October 10th, 2004, 05:42 PM Can you explaing a maj2? provide the chord formula or tab a chord? Thanks!
A "major 2nd" is an <u>interval</u>, not a chord. An interval describes the difference (or distance) between any two pitches. In this case, it's <u>two half-steps</u>. For example, C to D is a major 2nd. So is D to E, or C# to D#.
A <u>single</u> half-step, like C to C#, or C# to D, etc., is called a "minor 2nd."
I know it's confusing, because there are chords called "major 7th," or "minor 9th," etc., but they're describing specific chord structures that <u>use</u> those intervals. Whether the term is referrring to a chord or an interval all depends on the context in which it's being used.
And while there is no "major 2nd" chord, there are many chord structures that <u>use</u> a major 2nd interval. For example, "A add 9"
Aadd9 = x0242x
The interval between the 9th (the B played on the G string) and the 3rd (the C# played on the B string) is a major 2nd.
But major 2nds appear in other structures too. For example, if you take a basic A major chord and raise the 3rd one half-step (one fret), you get
Asus4 = x03340
... and the interval between the D on the B string and the open E string is a major 2nd.
Thoroughly confused? Good, welcome to Music Theory. ;-) I'm kidding, but it really can be confusing at first. There are lots of websites and books on beginning music theory that can be helpful, but I'd strongly recommend that you find a good teacher, even if it's only to get started. That way they can answer perfectly logical (but frustrating) questions like, "Hey, how come there's such a thing as a major 7th chord, but not a major 2nd chord?" ;-) Best of luck, CS :-)
Admin October 10th, 2004, 06:25 PM I've got the changes and heard a few versions of it but do you know of a recorded guitar version of this tune?
Just about everyone has recorded "Misty" at some point, it's one of the most covered tunes of all time. But for a treat, you can listen to a clip from a solo Joe Pass version recorded on "Virtuoso #2" when you CLICK HERE (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000000XJ9/qid=1097446718/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-5891796-7129668?v=glance&s=music#product-details). Enjoy, CS :-)
jlrich October 10th, 2004, 07:20 PM Try America's "Tin Man". Almost the entire song is in maj7's.
sparky October 10th, 2004, 07:34 PM . . . Ferry, Cross to Mercy also by Gerry and the Pacemakers . . .
Where's the thread about misheard lyrics?
BB, I'm guessing you're from the US, and don't realise that Liverpool (home of Gerry and the Pacemakers as well as another famous band) has a big river called the Mersey.
It's good to see some-one else likes old Gerry, - and the Dave Clark Five.
Eric Karonen October 12th, 2004, 01:09 PM . . . Ferry, Cross to Mercy also by Gerry and the Pacemakers . . .
Where's the thread about misheard lyrics?
BB, I'm guessing you're from the US, and don't realise that Liverpool (home of Gerry and the Pacemakers as well as another famous band) has a big river called the Mersey.
It's good to see some-one else likes old Gerry, - and the Dave Clark Five.
Wow, that brings back some memories. I wonder if anyone here, besides me, saw the movie, "Ferry Cross the Mersey" with Gerry and the Pacemakers back in 64 or 65.
BB October 12th, 2004, 01:41 PM . . . Ferry, Cross to Mercy also by Gerry and the Pacemakers . . .
Where's the thread about misheard lyrics?
BB, I'm guessing you're from the US, and don't realise that Liverpool (home of Gerry and the Pacemakers as well as another famous band) has a big river called the Mersey.
It's good to see some-one else likes old Gerry, - and the Dave Clark Five.
I hear ya Sparky! I am from the US and ( really! ) I do know it's Mersey ( like the river and Mersey beat ) not Mercy....but as you can tell from my other threads, I type before I engage my brain and hit submit instead of preview!
I love the english bands from the 60's as they ( and Elvis ) piqued my interest in all things guitar. I was enthralled with the mystique the Zombies, Beatles, Stones, Animals, Hermans Hermets, et cet put forth.
Also, I remember getting goosebumps at the thought of the Mods and the Rockers taking a rumble outside the Cavern or other venue. If I remember correctly, the Mods drove the Vespas and wore the latest fashions from Carnaby street, were the Rockers wore jeans, leather jackets and were from the "working class" familes.
mrobins@equilease.com October 12th, 2004, 04:05 PM Cmaj7 / Bmin/ Fmaj7/ G / etc....
ever notice the similarities of Time and Down By the River Neil
Cmaj7 / Bmin /
Neil seems to like the Maj7 sound too.
mr
Tele295 October 12th, 2004, 05:48 PM I don't know what key George and the Beatles recorded it in, but the first two chords are I then Imaj 7
Story goes that Harrison criticized Led Zeppelin for not doing ballads, so Pagey went off and wrote "The Rain Song" and nicked the first 2 chords of "Something" as a little musical joke to George. A - Amaj7
Now if you want real fun, how about a minor chord w/ a major 7th. Harlem Nocturne, baby!
spyder October 18th, 2004, 04:58 PM Ho...not that it has anything to do with anything....but all this talk about *misty* has made me wanna list my favorite version ...Ray Stevens take on Misty is one of the most memorable versions on the block...banjo intro...killer steel solo ( I think it was Hal Rugg)...straight up charting pretty much...but a fine country take -off nonetheless....later, spyder
moondoggie999 October 19th, 2004, 01:50 AM i will have to go listen to it, I really didn't give it a second thought, you know, gitarzan and The Streak went thru my mind, and I thought, its gotta be a different Misty, lol.
As a follow up to this thread, I stumbled on a couple good maj 7th examples that are going to work great for my purposes,
Eagles Lyin' Eyes has a Gmaj7
G-Gmaj7-C-C-Am7-D7-G-G
Kiss Me by Sixpence none the richer starts with an Eb-Ebmaj7-E7 progression that I could capo at the 1st fret and play in D
And Whats Goin On - Marvin Gaye goes from Emaj7-C#m-Emaj7-C#m-F#m7-Bsus4-B7-(B13)
Thanks for all the input everybody!!!
DAK October 19th, 2004, 09:33 AM While Ray Stevens is mostly known for novelties like The Streak and Ahab the Arab, he did put out the occasional record that was, IMHO, not so much a novelty as a novel approach to a serious song. His version of Misty certainly fit that concept. I loved it and, as Program Director of an Adult Contemporary music radio station in Sacramento, added the record to our playlist the very day we got it. It became a big request song for us, as it appeared to have been nationally. One thing I remember is how good that banjo open sounded coming out of our station jingle.
McTele October 27th, 2004, 06:30 PM "Nowadays Clancy" - Buffalo Springfield
"Why Does Love Got To Be So Sad" -Derek and the Dominoes
bruce October 30th, 2004, 12:48 AM Poor Side of town has two Maj7 open chords, Emaj7 - Amaj7 I play the E as an open chord, like an open E7, but with the pinky playing the 4th fret on the B string for the maj 7. I also drop it across the 4th fret of the high E to give another maj 3. So the changes I use for the verse are Emaj7 - Amaj7 "" "" A - Abmin - Gbmin - A - E Asus4 - E (sig lick)
Stop in the Name of Love is fun to do as a slow ballad with open chords C - Cmaj7 - Gmin - A7 - F - G- F - G. etc
pops_staples1 December 13th, 2004, 01:29 PM http://getsome.org/guitar/olga/main/f/franks_michael/the_lady_wants_to_know.crd
maj7 workout in the verse and a tasty spin into the chorus with m7 and 9th chords
lounge lizards take note - this one's for you, fellas
Doug 54 December 13th, 2004, 05:35 PM In the Chilli Pepers' "Under The Bridge, after the Hendrix like chords (hammer on 3ds) Frusciante hits that WONDERFUL Emaj 7th---and thats when the snare is hit on the rim and fade clock-like before it goes to chorus
thunderbyrd December 21st, 2004, 11:59 AM 8) "thrill is gone" by bb king has a Gmaj7 used as a cool transition chord, or at least the way i play it it does: Bm, Gmaj7, F#m, F#dom7, Bm
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