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T-bone Club... LsL Instruments

teleamp
April 22nd, 2010, 10:47 AM
First, welcome to the T-bone club, discussion about LsL guitars is welcome here. Tell your LsL story or ask about LsL guitars.

LsL only builds to a few specs, not a lot of options, but they have a great recipe for a vintage looking, feeling, sounding, and playing guitar. LsL purposely routes the neck pocket shallower than a stock tele so that the strings ride high and have a steep break angle over the saddles. The bodies and necks are cut, shaped, and sanded by hand in California. Their pups are wound in house. They also make their own truss rods and pickguards. If you email them after purchasing one, Lance will send you some extra spec's specific to your guitar.


I have a swamp ash T-bone "Teri" and it is probably the best tele that I have owned or played. Mine is a lightweight weighing in at 6 3/4 lbs. It is very resonant and loud. The neck is a full C shape, it is a thick as any Nocaster neck.

When I bought mine, the shop had several Nocasters and this LsL, I tried them all and the LsL stood out in both tone and feel.

I'll try to get some pics up soon.

ToneShark
April 22nd, 2010, 02:00 PM
I accidentally bought Rhiannon. I was looking at a whole bunch of Nocasters for a backup to my Creston (probably the most traditional Tele he ever made, with a HUGE neck). They had an LSL on the wall, so I figured I should give it another listen, having just seen Greg V's demo for Fat Sound - I had actually played it a while back and not loved it, who knows why. Anyway, this time around comparing it to the really wonderful Nocasters, it was pretty clear that this was the guitar I wanted. So, I bought it. And now it's seeing a little more playtime than the Creston! They're both such great guitars though.

kananond
April 29th, 2010, 03:59 AM
I just purchased mine a few days ago. Never was a Tele guy till now! It's taken the #1 spot. Really special guitar. I came close to buying a Nash, but in the end, I chose the LSL. Both were great guitars, but the LSL has an amazing unique feel and sound that I love.

toddoutloud
June 8th, 2010, 05:51 PM
I purchased Lyra a little over 3 weeks ago to replace my stolen American Strat. I had been jonesing for another Tele since losing my beloved 92 Tele Plus in Katrina. I was in Montgomery, AL for a gig and went to see a friend of mine who owns a music store in town. He had a few high end Tele style guitars in the store: Grosh, Tom Anderson, Glendale, etc. and I played them all, but he had me hold out on playing the LSL until last. He ran me into a 66 Deluxe Reverb, which is closest to the amp I currently own.

While slightly underwhelmed by the Grosh and Glendale, and the Anderson out of my budget, I finally tried the LSL. All I could say is that it was love at first touch. She had the most comfortable feel of all the guitars I played that day and listening to her unplugged was magical. Lyra is the one of the most resonant solid body guitar I have ever played. And she's lightweight: 6 lbs. 2 oz. I plugged her into the BFDR, played my version of "What a Wonderful World" and I was sold.

I've gigged and done a few church services with Lyra and I get nothing but great compliments about my "chewed up" guitar's sound. My music minister gave me some junk about playing with a "chewed up"-looking guitar and he ate his words during the service. He asked that I only bring the "chewed up" guitar when I play there in the future.

Lance and his crew have the right mojo for building guitars. They made my baby completely perfect for me with the feel and sound I want from a guitar. IMHO, LSL is the best bang for the buck on a Nocaster style guitar.

campfire
June 11th, 2010, 07:00 AM
"Lance and his crew have the right mojo for building guitars. They made my baby completely perfect for me with the feel and sound I want from a guitar. IMHO, LSL is the best bang for the buck on a Nocaster style guitar."

> +1 on that! I just walked home with "Krissy" from my local guitar dealer today, and I'm completely blown away by the quality, sound, and authenticity of the guitar. (T-Bone) One of the best blackguard Teles I've ever played. (I once owned a blackguard '54) The light relic job is superb, too.

campfire
June 14th, 2010, 04:06 AM
Man, only 5 members? Surely there must be a few more LSL owners out there who would like to join. BTW- I wonder if LSL is ever going to make a "thinline" model? I would be 1st in line! I've been lusting for a good thinline tele lately!

ToneShark
June 14th, 2010, 01:18 PM
Update on Rhiannon... it's the only guitar I play. My newest Creston showed up - a completely custom guitar with custom paint by Sarah Ryan and everything, but all I can bring myself to play 99% of the time is that damn LSL. What a guitar.

campfire
June 16th, 2010, 05:29 AM
I agree with toneshark, I just can't put mine down either. What a great sounding, effortless playing tele! And the relic vibe is so good, sometimes I feel like I'm really playing my old '54 blackguard. More Kudos to Lance & CO!

sekt88
June 16th, 2010, 07:43 AM
I am in the club. Just brought home "Carita"- pine tele goodness!

teleamp
June 16th, 2010, 09:19 PM
I am in the club. Just brought home "Carita"- pine tele goodness!

Congrats, SA'a are welcome here too. LsL offers the best bang for the buck as far as I am concerned.

I play mine so much that I have started noticing some fret wear.

JoeYello
June 25th, 2010, 03:15 PM
My first post......

Kalan in the house! The first RW board pine T-Bone!

campfire
June 26th, 2010, 03:25 AM
ooohhh! I love rw board teles! As per my avatar, I have a rw board tele, too. We'd love to see pics of your new LSL! I'll bet being pine, it's really a lightweight, also. Congrats on Kalan!

campfire
July 5th, 2010, 03:50 AM
My question is: Do you guys keep the "name" lable on the back of the neckplate? For instance, mine is "Krissy". I realise this is the serial # also, but it appears under the pickguard, too. Should I just peel off the paper neckplate lable? I just don't like it on the neckplate! Opinions? Thanks.

campfire
July 7th, 2010, 04:53 PM
Anybody home?

teleamp
July 25th, 2010, 09:58 PM
My question is: Do you guys keep the "name" lable on the back of the neckplate? For instance, mine is "Krissy". I realise this is the serial # also, but it appears under the pickguard, too. Should I just peel off the paper neckplate lable? I just don't like it on the neckplate! Opinions? Thanks.


I left mine on. I finally pulled the neck to have a look in the pocket and found an actual serial number stamped on the heel of the neck, mines in the low 130's.

I've replaced my pickguard with one from a Fender 52 RI because I like the way the edges of the Fender one are rolled.

I've also replaced my bridge plate with one that is less reliced.

MikeyB59
August 5th, 2010, 04:20 PM
I bought "Taylor" about 3 months ago. It's a pine T-Bone. There are actually a couple of NAMM videos of this guitar being playing and it sounds great there and great in my hands. It's as fine a guitar as I've owned and I've had a lot over the years. I played a bunch of teles and bought several in the last few months (Grosh, G & L, 75 Fender) on the way to Taylor. Taylor is clearly the best of the bunch though they all have their charms.

I'd just as soon they not relic it quite as much as mine is relic'd, but it's the sound and feel that matters most to me, so I can live with the relicing.

I'd played a used custom shop Tele relic that was really nice going for $1000 more than Taylor. It was the nicest one in the store and I don't think it's as good as Taylor is. I'm a very happy owner.

I've been playing it with 10s that came with it, but they're beat and I'm going to put 11s on. It already amazes me with its' fullness with 10s, so I think I'm about to get blown away again. It just sounds great from jazz to blues to country to rock. I occasionally wish the bridge pickup had a hair more wallop, but it still sounds great and the neck pickup is the best tele neck pickup I've ever had.

Mike

campfire
August 5th, 2010, 07:02 PM
MikeyB59 wrote> "I've been playing it with 10s that came with it, but they're beat and I'm going to put 11s on."

Larry wrote> I did the same thing, but ended up going back to .10's again. The guitar just plays so much better, and is more balanced with .10s, IMO. When I play jazz on an archtop, I use .12's or .13's, but my LSL T-Bone is just more balanced with .10's. Not to mention a joy to BEND!!! I have to agree, I think LSL is the best telecaster on the market now. (I personally love the relic job on mine. The intricate finish checking blows my mind!)

teleamp
August 29th, 2010, 09:04 PM
Well, I'm going to A/B my LsL against one of the new broadcasters tomorrow, it should be interesting.

teleamp
August 31st, 2010, 11:26 PM
It's been a good ride, "Teri" has moved on.

campfire
September 2nd, 2010, 02:53 PM
It's been a good ride, "Teri" has moved on.

Hello...goodbye!:rolleyes:

brittwin
September 9th, 2010, 01:13 PM
I was in Nashville in late May. I was headed to Corner Music where I had every intention to add a Jerry Jones to my stable of Teles. I didn't like them.... I was bummed. The gentleman that was working there that day asked what type of guitar do you usually play? I said, Telecaster, of course. "Well, then I have something you might enjoy", he said. He took "Korena" off the wall. I plugged her into a Princeton and could not put her down. I did end up leaving the store without her that day, but my lovely wife noticed how much I had enjoyed the guitar. She gave the green light to purchase the guitar to make the trip to Nashville all that more special. I never took any pics but Corner Music still has it on their website, but marked as sold. Check it out.

http://www.cornermusic.com/Store/proddetail.asp?prod=LSLKorena

campfire
September 9th, 2010, 07:17 PM
You bought it in May, and you're waiting 'till now to post? Shame on you! :razz: (just kidding) Congrats on a really smart purchase. There are a lot of Tele's and clones to choose from out there, some are VERY good. But IMO, LSL is one of the best Tele-style guitars available, when you consider it's pretty much all handmade, relic'd, affordable, and comes with a great set up right out of the box. (er...case) They just feel right, and sound so good. I have Krissy, and she's a keeper. I have a 1997 Fender Custom Shop Cunetto Nocaster that doesn't get touched anymore since I got my T-bone, "Krissy". Congrats again!!!

Jefemaximo
September 10th, 2010, 07:56 PM
It's been a good ride, "Teri" has moved on.

To a VERY happy new owner. :grin:

campfire
September 11th, 2010, 08:49 PM
jefemaximo,

Congrats! She will hopefully keep you happier than the last owner. :wink:

reznor
September 30th, 2010, 04:31 AM
Hi,

I'm a newbie here and english is not my first language, i apologize :oops:

Just got "Tanya".

One of the first 100.

Mailed to Mr. Lerman to get some info - here's the reply:

can't tell you too much about Tanya because she was made before we started keeping good records of our guitars. That means she was made before #95 where we started the record keeping. I can tell you that she was named for our paint department head's wife. She came by the shop on the day we were assembling Tanya and since she was a real cutie, we named the guitar after her. She's an actress that is sometimes on Desperate Housewives and Cold Case.

I can't imagine having a similar info from Fender Musical Instruments.

That's what i like about that guitar: it has personality !

I'm not a classic Tele player. I was looking for that early Steve Khan / John Tropea sound. I like Robben Ford's Tele sound a lot.

But what i got was a real inspiring instrument that will kick some of my other instruments out of the house.

I'm looking forward playing that thing on stage and commenting it here.

So far,

Greets,

reznor :cool:

ToneShark
September 30th, 2010, 12:19 PM
I'm thinking of maybe sooner or later letting mine go and grabbing another with a 9.5" neck. That's my only complaint, but it's starting to get to me. I got mine thinking there was no way to get 9.5" on it, but then I saw a few others pop up for sale with that spec, and thought to myself "damn." I go back and forth between the LSL and the white Creston I have, pulling out the blue Sarah Ryan Creston from time to time for good measure. It's really cool having more of a late 50s style Tele and the T-Bone to balance each other out. The differences in tone are subtle, but they're definitely there.

I really want to try a Saticoy.

campfire
October 1st, 2010, 04:35 AM
Welcome, reznor!
Congrats on Tanya! And thanks for the great pics, she really looks good. They are all different and have their own subtle nuances and character. Is that the original case? My "Krissy" came with just a black case. I really like the more "vintage" style case that came with yours. I'm glad more and more people are discovering how really fine LSL guitars are.

Tone Shark_ I'm lusting for a Saticoy, too! (But I'm pretty sure they are vintage radius, just like the T-bone). Maybe someone here knows?

ToneShark
October 1st, 2010, 02:00 PM
It's been my understanding that if you really want 9.5" you can get it.

campfire
October 3rd, 2010, 06:54 PM
It's been my understanding that if you really want 9.5" you can get it.

Great! I prefer a 9.5 radius on a strat myself. For some reason, the 7.5 on my T-bone feels great to me, and bends don't choke.

Nixon Now
October 18th, 2010, 04:39 PM
Hi there,

I just registered for this Forum, because I discovered the T-Bone Owners Club... Great idea!

Please excuse my english language.

About more than a year ago I bought a LsL Pine T Bone in Butterscotch, named "Paula". Why that name? She was finished on August 13th in 2009 - just have a short guess who died on that day... Not a bad story for a Tele-style electric guitar, uh?

I had been thinking about buying an "upper class" tele quite a while, when I read about LsL in the beginning of 2009 and got very interested. In spring 2009 I had the opportunity to try a vintage white T Bone. I instantly loved the sound and playability (but disliked the colour...) and ordered the butterscotch. As I live in Europe, I had to wait quite a while.... But it was worth it! But who am I to tell you guys - you already knew...

I´d love to try an ash version, but never had the opportunity :sad: and "at the moment" I don´t even have the money :wink:

I am a Tele-afficionado since I started playing guitar more than 20 years ago. I carried out newspapers etc for years to buy me a cream coloured American Standard Fender Telecaster when I was 17. I still keep that guitar, as I had the luck to get a real nice one back than. It has a little fretwear by now but never needed repair or modification.

Best wishes from central Europe!

campfire
October 18th, 2010, 08:36 PM
Welcome, NixonNow!

Very glad to see a post here at all! Not too much activity here, lately. I'm glad you are enjoying "Paula". I am wondering who it was that died on that date, and I'm sorry if her death saddened you. Still, buying a great tele is a fitting tribute to anyone.

My LSL T-bone tele is "Krissy", and she is ash. Light, but not feather-light. I personally prefer a little heft to my tele's. Just what I'm used to sonically and feel-wise. Hope you enjoy yours for as many years as your first Fender Am. Std.!

djphelan01
October 19th, 2010, 12:04 AM
I don't own one of these guitars but I have heard of them so I figured that I would look at the owners club and see what they look like. Apparently none of you except reznor own one since there are no pics. You all know the deal it didn't happen /or exist without pics. Now lets see some of these guitars that I've read about.

Nixon Now
October 19th, 2010, 07:53 AM
"I am wondering who it was that died on that date."


It was the mentor of that "other guitar" - Les Paul... The LsL hangtag says "R.I.P."

campfire
October 20th, 2010, 03:15 AM
Okay, rather obscure reference...but I can dig it. (Paula-Les Paula?) Very cool that it said RIP on the hangtag!

hal
October 23rd, 2010, 03:30 PM
Well--I am now a member of this club.

Mine is Lucie--about 6.5 lbs, 9.5 radius, 6105 frets and killer tone. I love it! All the great things you hear about these guitars is true. Great setup, tone, playabilty and construction.

My 68 Tele(avatar) is not going away. But I have to think about taking it to some of the gigs I play. And when I played the LSL, I felt like this had just been dropped in my lap.

I wish I could just put the picture in without adding it to photobucket.......

campfire
October 24th, 2010, 03:32 AM
hal,
Welcome! Sometimes I feel I'm the only recurring poster in this forum. Most people just post their initial excitement (understandably) over their new LSL, and we never hear from them again! I hope you enjoy your T-bone "Lucie" as much as I enjoy mine. The quality is just about equal to (or better than) the Fender Custom Shop, for a lot less money. Better setup,too. I have a 97 Fender Custom Shop Nocaster relic that I love, but my LSL T-bone is just as good. (and lighter) Enjoy, and don't be a stranger.

hal
October 26th, 2010, 07:34 AM
I have played a lot of Tele's, including custom shops, old Tele's and specialty builders guitars. Nothing I have played surpasses this guitar. Mine has 9.5 radius--that was a key factor in the decision to buy. And it weighs maybe 6.5 lbs.

I need to semi retire my 68, so this came along at a good time......

campfire
October 27th, 2010, 05:43 AM
hal,

9.5 radius? That's great, I didn't know you could get one with that radius. Mine is the standard 7.5 and in spite of that, it feels great. Bends don't choke, either. My next one will be a pine body with a 9.5 radius. My current "Krissy" is ash, which I generally prefer for tone (brightness) and appearance, but I would like to try a pine body. I've heard great things about pine, I'd like to see for myself.

Johnny Isaacs
November 14th, 2010, 08:24 PM
I'm in!

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4110/5175652172_17deba64e1_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4128/5175046851_e39f7206d0_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4088/5175046667_e0bc38a31e_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4129/5175652310_ec3536bfdd_b.jpg

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4087/5175046563_79376106bb_b.jpg

http://www.lslinstruments.com/

Johnny Isaacs

campfire
November 15th, 2010, 12:21 PM
Welcome, my friend! Went and looked at your photos...wow! I just wanted you to know, that the original LSL pickups are one of the reasons I bought this guitar. So balanced and warm. No icepick, yet amazing clarity. If Lance will do it, I highly recommend the LSL pups. JMHO.

Johnny Isaacs
November 16th, 2010, 12:55 AM
Well I sent a message to Lance and haven't heard back yet. We'll see!

Thanks!

Johnny Isaacs

johnnytronics
November 18th, 2010, 07:45 PM
Hey guys, I'm joining the club tomorrow. This bad boy ( er, girl, "Bethany" ) arrives from Austin TX.

http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x371/Johnnytronics/T3.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x371/Johnnytronics/T-4.jpg
http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x371/Johnnytronics/T1.jpg

campfire
November 20th, 2010, 04:22 AM
Damn! (or darn) That looks purdy! I promise, you will love it! Congrats!

johnnytronics
November 20th, 2010, 04:41 PM
Thanks. It's got the sound and feel I was looking for. Relic job is amazing too. I do a lot of jazz chord melody stuff and the neck p u works nicely through my Valve Train 205. Both pickups together ( middle position ) NAIL the Tele sound, as far as I'm concerned.

thesjkexperienc
December 16th, 2010, 01:44 AM
I am in (almost) I just bought it off ebay and should have it late Dec 21st. Her name is Maya and is 6 lbs 14 oz. It is also the first time I have owned a Tele style guitar in over 20 years! I have always been a Strat guy, but added a Jazzmaster 2 years ago and now a Tele.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/p1_uy4xlgpgw_so.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/p2_ukxv2psp4_so.jpg

My main amps are a Victoria 20112 w/Blue and a Swart AST PRO so it should be a good match!

I tend to play with pretty high action, so do you think there will be any troubles with the bridge/saddles? Also, how is the intonation? I get a little crazy about it being too far off.

Thanks.

ToneShark
December 16th, 2010, 01:05 PM
I'm actually debating getting rid of mine so I can get one with 9.25" simply because I don't like super high action and I feel that's where mine plays best. So, you probably won't have a problem.

I've played mine plenty through a Vic 45410. Good combination.

campfire
December 16th, 2010, 01:30 PM
I am in (almost) I just bought it off ebay and should have it late Dec 21st. Her name is Maya and is 6 lbs 14 oz. It is also the first time I have owned a Tele style guitar in over 20 years! I have always been a Strat guy, but added a Jazzmaster 2 years ago and now a Tele.

My main amps are a Victoria 20112 w/Blue and a Swart AST PRO so it should be a good match!

I tend to play with pretty high action, so do you think there will be any troubles with the bridge/saddles? Also, how is the intonation? I get a little crazy about it being too far off.

Thanks.

Beautiful tele! You just can't go wrong with these LSL's. They are made right. I love mine. Your strat and JM won't get much play anymore!:wink:
Is yours an ash body? Also, is it new? I didn't think you could find a used one on ebay, but maybe so. Enjoy, please post when you get it!

thesjkexperienc
December 16th, 2010, 04:00 PM
I did get it used and for a very nice price on ebay. Maybe because no one was expecting it? Apparently he had sold a Sugar Pine the week before for a lot more money, so good luck for me as ash/maple is a favorite of mine. He also said as soon as he is back on his feet again he is going to buy more LsLs.

One piece ash according to the seller, but until I inspect the end grain I am just hoping it really is. Huge leap of faith as I had never heard of LsL until a few days ago and I go crazy and pick one up. Part of it is I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis this summer, so I am trying to get my guitar "bucket list" in before it is too late. I have a nice Taylor 555 I need to sell to fund the T-Bone since there is no use pretending a 12 string is in my future.

It will be interesting to see how it goes with a Tele and its playing time. I worry most about a problem with my elbow where when I play a Les Paul my right hand goes numb after 5 minutes and will give me great pain later if I ignore it and keep playing. That is why I have stick with guitars that have forearm contours. I just hope the Tele wont hurt it. I remember working at a music store in the early 80s and having a Broadcaster that I borrowed for a week and that was ok.

My main two amps are very nice and I do have a "real '59" Bludotone 4x10 tweed Bassman coming in the next 11 months (hopefully earlier). I am borrowing one from a friend right now s#1! Small amps are great, but the percussiveness of a big amp has its magic too!

I will likely have tons of questions next week trying to get Maya dialed in.

campfire
December 17th, 2010, 04:00 PM
The LSL tele's are set up beautifully right from the factory. Even with the 7.5 radius it is very easy to bend and play because of the way the frets are leveled, and the set up. Mine is intonated just great, even better than my Fender Custom shop Nocaster. The pickups are really balanced, too. One of the best "bang for the buck" tele's being made today IMO.

thesjkexperienc
December 20th, 2010, 02:17 AM
Still waiting...

I just wanted to make sure the string spacing is the same as a vintage Telecaster? If I were to get the Rutter compensated saddles with the vintage spaced grooves would it fit on the T-Bone? http://app4.websitetonight.com/projects2/0/3/8/9/1609830/_mygallery/RuttersBrassSaddles2.jpg

Thanks!

campfire
December 20th, 2010, 03:48 AM
LSL uses either Fender or Barden bridge plates. I don't see any worries. This suck'a is really like a vintage blackguard Fender tele. You won't need Rutter compensated saddles, or any other aftermarket stuff, all you need to do is play it. (Assuming the previous owner didn't screw it up with a lot of changes) Just relax, you will like it.

thesjkexperienc
December 21st, 2010, 10:32 PM
It arrived! And, after going from NJ to Colorado only the A string was out of tune! lol! The guitar looks and feels perfect. It is supposed to be 6.88 lbs and I would guess that to be correct. I was a bit underwhelmed by the case however, but it does the job.

It has the really big early 50's neck and a bit of finish wear on the thumb side of the neck. I did a little bore oil on there as it has the slightest amount of fret sprout on the 4th fret, but you don't notice it while playing. There is zero fret wear and no signs of use or abuse.

One thing that was funny is the bridge pickup was set over half an inch from the two E strings, so I raised that to be more like I would have a Strat (for more punch) and I am going to bring the neck pickup up just a bit as well. It seems the neck is about 5 Ohms and the bridge 6.2 Ohms on my ancient analog multimeter. I am going to keep it stock for a few days until I decide if I want to put a volume kit on and a PIO cap.

String height is about perfect, but I might raise it ever so slightly and I do have an under-string radius gauge, so I can dial in the set-up. I haven't had a chance to do much playing yet, so I haven't checked the intonation or changed strings to my brand. I do want to try some pure nickel strings on it as well and have a set of Pyramid and Curt Mangan to try. I usually use Mangan nickel/steel 10 - 46 which I will put on tonight.

One other thing I noticed is the bridge/strings are not grounded and I need to touch the strings/bridge to stop some nasty buzzing. Is this normal and do most people wire a ground to the bridge?

campfire
December 23rd, 2010, 04:49 AM
Whoever had the guitar before you must have mucked with it. I know my LSL is grounded under the bridge pickup and the bridge plate. Check and see if there's a wire connected to the bridge p.u. bottom plate. I'm not gonna take mine apart to look, because I like the way it's set up, and well...I'm just too lazy! Good luck. BTW, nothing sounds better than nickel strings. Good old Ernie Ball nickels! Been using them for 40 years!

thesjkexperienc
December 23rd, 2010, 11:07 AM
SO there should be a grounding wire from the bridge pickup to the bridge? I will have to check that as I am pretty sure, given the noise, that there is no such thing. Where does the wire attach to the bridge pickup?

Makes me wonder if I have the original pickups. Should the wrap on the bridge pickup be white? It does sound fantastic so it doesn't matter. Though it would make me want to consider some Don Mare pickups ;) I have them in my three Strats and they are fantastic.

I did spend some time with the neck pickup last night and it is sounding much better. Hopefully this afternoon I will get some time to play at volume.

thesjkexperienc
December 24th, 2010, 12:39 PM
I checked things out a bit and it looks like the original wiring, but it also does not look like the standard wiring diagrams I have seen. Maya is also known as #91 made in 8/09 so she is a Leo / Virgo lol. I'd love to find out more, but LsL has to be super busy they don't need me bugging them.

I also put on some Curt Mangan pure nickels and they also sound fantastic. It makes the slight intonation issues on the wound strings less noticeable. I didn't change out the plain strings since they were fresh mangans already. Next change I will pull the bridge and see about a grounding wire.

I dont know how much the guitar was played before I got it, but I feel like Maya's tone is changing similar to how an acoustic guitar opens up. More highs and lows and punchier than it was on Tuesday. Maybe it is finally acclimated?

I also did some open G tuning and ran through a few Stones songs and it kills through my small tweed amps! It isn't quite as thick sounding as Keef's for Honky Tonk Woman intro, but you don't notice any difference after that.

I pulled down one of my Strats and the neck seems so small! The sound was a bit warmer with less string separation, so it is really nice to have the T-Bone sound unique!

thesjkexperienc
December 30th, 2010, 03:33 AM
I cant believe how much I am enjoying my T-Bone! I did breakdown and installed some Glendale Intone brass saddles. I was surprised how much larger the saddle diameter was verses stock. I am much closer to being intonated and I feel I have more sustain. I don't know if it is the saddles or the guitar being more in tune and not having that out of tune wobble.

I also have the pickups dialed in really well and use the neck pickup for blues, but it would be nice to have more punch.

Have any of you shielded your T-Bones? It is dry here on the high plains and I am getting static build up. I know some use dryer sheets, but i am allergic to them.

Matt68
December 31st, 2010, 06:04 AM
Hey Guys, i own #73 Brenda, she's the (Tele) love of my Life!!!!!!!!! I bought her in 2009 at the Guitar Attic in Daytona Beach.
She has a Sugarpine Body, her weight is 5.9 pounds. There is a Review on Youtube from Premier Guitars (Summer Namm Nashville 2009). Matt Rae is playing it there (i wish i could play like him:mrgreen:).
I ordert her in March '09, after they build her Lance called Randy at Guitar Attic, and told him before he ship her he will take her with to Summer Namm 09, so i had to wait. But finaly i get her in September 09 from Randy.
It was love at first sight!
I'm no Specialist in Computers so i try to figure out how to post pics over here, sometime later on.

Matt

campfire
January 1st, 2011, 05:34 AM
Congrats, Matt! I can tell you are really enjoying your LSL #73 "Brenda". That's what I like to hear. Change saddles? Pickups? Ridiculous! They are so good right out the box, all you need to do is play them. Pics!

Matt68
January 1st, 2011, 06:41 AM
Congrats, Matt! I can tell you are really enjoying your LSL #73 "Brenda". That's what I like to hear. Change saddles? Pickups? Ridiculous! They are so good right out the box, all you need to do is play them. Pics!

UUUHH....shame on me. I changed the Pickups last week, i got a J.M.Rolph Set left, and after change the PU's (it takes allmost 1 Year to do it on that Guitar!!! Usually a PU change is the first thing i'm doin'),but....... two Day's later i put in the Stock PU's in again.
BTW the Rolphs are very good ones! But the LSL Pu's just fitts on that Guitar perfect!
I'm waiting for Glendale stainless steel saddles, they should come in on Monday or Tuesday.

Greetings, Matt

campfire
January 2nd, 2011, 08:26 PM
All of those aftermarket places will be glad to take your money. These guitars are made and set up to play and sound right from the get-go. If you feel the need to spend your hard-earned money please do so. :rolleyes:

Matt68
January 3rd, 2011, 01:01 AM
I believe so to! But once i removed the Bridge and the saddles, to install the Pickup, i can't set up the right intonation. That's why i ordert the Glendalesaddles!!
Now i try them, guess i put the stockones on again:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:.

Matt

campfire
January 3rd, 2011, 04:38 AM
I believe so to! But once i removed the Bridge and the saddles, to install the Pickup, i can't set up the right intonation. That's why i ordert the Glendalesaddles!!
Now i try them, guess i put the stockones on again:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:.

Matt

Good! The stock pickups and the original hardware on LSL guitars are of very high quality. Besides, the brass barrels sound better. Use a nylon punch and a hammer to get (beat!) the saddles into intonation. (submission)

Matt68
January 3rd, 2011, 11:18 AM
The stock pickups and the original hardware on LSL guitars are of very high quality.


Yeah! That's true, i think that is why we all, on this threat, bought them! And everything on it, is handcrafted....woooooow.

BTW, i still don't be able to load up my pics, i tryed it on sunday but it had not worked. My pics are 720 kB, so i check out that.:confused:

Matt

thesjkexperienc
January 5th, 2011, 01:18 AM
Matt, I installed the Glendale Brass and love it! I guess I am not a totally "dyed in the wool" Tele guy yet and prefer great intonation. One thing though, I measured my string height from the bridge and it was 1/2" on the wound strings and the G and sent the info to Glendale and they sent along taller (longer) saddle screws and it worked out great. They would not have worked with the stock screws.

I would also recommend Pure Nickel strings! I used Curt Mangan, but you probably cant get that in Germany.

The best thing for pictures is to get a PhotoBucket account and upload to that. They have a "share" button and it gives you a code to copy and paste where we type our replies and they show right up!

thesjkexperienc
January 5th, 2011, 01:45 AM
A proud owner:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya1.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya2.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya3.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya4.jpg

thesjkexperienc
January 5th, 2011, 01:48 AM
A few more:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya6.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya11.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya14.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/LsLT-BoneMaya7.jpg

Matt68
January 5th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Hey Guys, stainless Glendale's are installed. The intonation is fine now, the sound is a little more brighter, but still good.

I use to play 'Twangtone' pure nickels on mine too, i love that sound. That Strings are made in USA, but sold under that Label over here, from Guitarsaloon.

Try that Photobucket next weekend.
I load up some Photos on Gretsch- Talk, without problems, but for some reasons it does not work here. Strange WWW World :rolleyes:!

Matt

thesjkexperienc
January 7th, 2011, 10:58 AM
Matt, if you have troubles with Photobucket PM me and I will try and help you through it.

I was hoping the photos I uploaded would be more clear to show the amazing detail of LsL's relic work. Makes my Fender Custom SHop relics look like a joke!

Matt68
January 7th, 2011, 11:27 AM
Matt, if you have troubles with Photobucket PM me and I will try and help you through it.

I was hoping the photos I uploaded would be more clear to show the amazing detail of LsL's relic work. Makes my Fender Custom SHop relics look like a joke!


Sounds good! (Photobucket)

Yeah, i thought about buying a Fender CS Tele, finaly i bought the LSL. One big reason for that, was there are persons behind LSL, not a anonymus Factory. You can allways tell People who build that Guitar (sorry for my english, i hope you understand what i mean:mrgreen::mrgreen:).

thesjkexperienc
January 9th, 2011, 04:24 PM
Perfectly. I grew up in Milwaukee, Wisconsin and many people are from Germany (or Italy or Poland...) or one generation removed. Lets just say it takes a flexible brain to communicate with everyone there!

I have been looking for a CS Fender Nocaster for four years and never came up with the combination of weight, tone and affordability that worked for me. Affordability was the biggest hurdle lol. In the end I am really glad I happened into LsL!

I only heard about them on a Saturday, found out about the auction on Sunday and bought one Tuesday! I played mine today for three hours through an attenuated Victoria 20112 w/celestion blue. The T-Bone has be playing some things a bit differently and I am venturing back into the Stones. I broke my left little finger 5 years ago and discovered I could still play guitar that way, so it is fun picking it up again and taking it further.

Matt68
January 10th, 2011, 11:33 AM
I'm glad people understand me, out there in the world!!!

Yeah, two years ago i had a disc prolapse in my neck. So the disc pinched a nerve, and i still got no feeling in my left index- and johnny cash finger, that's also strange to play guitar with it. After the surgery, i looked for a lightweight guitar, and found that LSL!

BTW, i had no time during the weekend for the pics, but i'm gonna get it this week.

thesjkexperienc
January 11th, 2011, 01:19 AM
Sorry to hear about your discs! I am missing one so I can sympathize!

I heard LsL was going to release something special at NAMM this weekend! I don't know if it will be something as crazy as a Jazzcaster or some other strange hybrid. Maybe a custom shop? LOL! It will be fun to see what new toys are have-to-haves!

The crazy thing is I keep thinking if someone handed me $2500 would I get a custom Saticoy or a Sugar Pine T-Bone in blond with black guard? Gas is a killer!

Matt68
January 11th, 2011, 11:10 AM
............The crazy thing is I keep thinking if someone handed me $2500 would I get a custom Saticoy or a Sugar Pine T-Bone in blond with black guard? Gas is a killer!


I'm so happy, not to be the only ''Guitarcrazy'' Guy on this planet!!!!!!!!:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

Let's wait and see what they get! It's a damn long time until weekend...................

thesjkexperienc
January 13th, 2011, 10:43 PM
All I heard is they now have a Paisley finish. But, no pictures or details. I hope Premier Guitar does a video or at least photos.

Matt68
January 14th, 2011, 10:21 AM
Yeah, they allready have a Video from that Paisley on Youtube, from LA Ampshow '10.
It's a nice one, i like it!

thesjkexperienc
January 15th, 2011, 11:55 AM
I got more info. Looks like the new additions are huge. I guess the headstock sticker change makes our LsL T-Bones vintage collectables ;)

rosewood 60's style saticoys with higher output pickups and more color options

9.5" radius option neck profiles

hotrod t-bone with high output p-88 bridge pickup and custom pinstriped blackgaurd

LSL mongrel model hybrid body style
3 saddle trem bridge model & t-bone bridge style
3 pickup options, 5 way switch
p-88 bridge pickup, 12" radius neck

jerry donahue signature model with special pickups and electronics/switching

paisley t-bones in various colors

new headstock logo

updated color options

more "played-in" feel neck

Matt68
January 16th, 2011, 06:58 AM
that jerry donahue signature model, sounds interesting.
i don't know if i'm gonna like that hybrid. just wait and see.
lance also shows up that pinstripe blackguard on youtube, it's very cool looking guitar.

i like to see the new LSL logo! Nothings on youtube now.

thesjkexperienc
January 16th, 2011, 03:24 PM
I know. Premier guitar mag is only showing stuff from the big name manufacturers. From what I heard all the cool/innovative stuff was from the small guys like LsL and Strymon.

I hope LsL finally updates their website. They don't eve show Saticoys on it yet and that was a year ago.

Matt68
January 17th, 2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah, i guess, they are too bussy, with building good Guitars!

BTW, here is the youtube link, with Matt Rae playing my Brenda at Summer Namm 2009.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnTOMPw6GGs

Hahaha, big deal for Computer Dummie like me, posting a link:lol::lol::lol:

thesjkexperienc
January 18th, 2011, 01:14 AM
So far this is all I could find. The first picture is a famous guitarist, but behind him is the Hot Rod T-Bone with pin striping. Below that are the two hybrid guitars. I suspect more photos and video will trickle out now that everyone has gotten home and a bit of rest.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/IMG_2014.jpg

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/179237_499970824859_681449859_5935810_5739935_n.jp g

Matt68
January 18th, 2011, 11:52 AM
Thanks for the Photos. On the first photo, is Carl Verheyen, Supertramp Guitarist and LSL Lover.

The Hybrid looks pretty cool. Better than i expectet! It's for sure worth to try ;-)

Nixon Now
January 23rd, 2011, 06:41 PM
It seems as if a lot of news from LsL are coming up! But I´d like to take it back to a basic question: What difference do the pine and ash versions of the T-Bones make soundwise?

I had the opportunity to compare both versions during the last two weeks, and this the (personal) result of the comparison :razz:

Pine adds some smoothness to the expected Tele-like sound and makes it more "bluesy" and less "harsh". The pine version has more low end and more sustain than the ash version. In addition, I believe that it adds a more accoustic touch to the sound and makes it more "round". Nevertheless, there is mucho twang and chime and this thing can rock, with a tighter sound than the ash version.

Ash adds more brightness to the tone and gives you more of a "scream" when using an overdriven sound. As anyone would expect, this is just more of the classic tele sound you know from these guitars.

In my personal opinion, the pine is the better choice when it comes to more moody playing (clean or with mild overdrive), while the ash is better if you want to ROCK with that guitar, as it has remarkably more bite.
While the sound of the ash version does not need much explanation (as being very Tele-classic), the warm sound of the pine version instantly remembered me much of a Fender Princeton-Promo video by Jim Campilongo (you can find that on You Tube). It comes very close to that.

I hope this was helpfull to the undecided out there :razz:

The news about the upcoming LsL guitars left me with one question:Does anyone know more details about the Jerry Donahue Signature model?

thesjkexperienc
January 24th, 2011, 02:57 AM
http://supersoundmusic.com/display.asp?id=1594&sra=1

It seems they use a Tele style Pickup with a surround similar to a tele bridge area that holds the pickup for twang. This is hidden under the pickguard. There also seems to be some crazy wiring that I don't totally understand. I emailed LsL about the neck dimensions, and a few other Qs, as I am interested in this model being similar to an idea I have had for a long time.

Thanks for your description of Ash vs Pine. I would look for Pine/Maple next time for a T-Bone though rosewood would be just fine. LsL has so many new toys it will be very hard to decide what to do! Gotta sell a Fender CS Strat first ;)

It also appears LsL has raised prices a bit, but when you cant meet demand that is a necessary evil.

Nixon Now
January 24th, 2011, 05:33 AM
Thank you for additional information. The PU idea sounds very interesting and the special wiring as well, which seems to exclude the middle positions and add some "new" combinations.

Last week I heard that Fender did a lawsuit against smaller manufacturers (incl. LsL) that build instruments that might be mistaken for originals. As far as I heard, these instruments are not longer allowed to be manufactured in Europe. I did not fully understand, if US-manufactured instruments are allowed to be sold in Europe any longer. For the US, there has been some kind of agreement, maybe this is the reason for the raised prices (just an idea...).

I did not find anything on the web on this issue. On the other hand, some small European manufacturers do not longer offer assembled instruments through their websites but guitar parts (which might be tolerated, as far as I was told).

Does anyone know more details?

thesjkexperienc
January 25th, 2011, 12:17 AM
Good old Fender!

I just got an email from Lance today, so I don't think he is shutting down shop :) Unfortunately, I was hoping for some dimensions for the JD model and didn't get them. Tough for us not near dealers.

Matt68
January 26th, 2011, 11:32 AM
All of those aftermarket places will be glad to take your money. These guitars are made and set up to play and sound right from the get-go. If you feel the need to spend your hard-earned money please do so. :rolleyes:

Hahaha, Campfire, you was right again, i just install the stock saddles back on ! :mrgreen::mrgreen:

Matt68
January 26th, 2011, 11:38 AM
Good old Fender!

I just got an email from Lance today, so I don't think he is shutting down shop :) ..........

Puhhhh, glad to hear that :grin:

That JD model looks realy good. I guess it's a future "must have"!

thesjkexperienc
January 29th, 2011, 12:24 AM
I got a second email from Lance and there may be a dealer in my State pretty soon. I hope it is local!

I think we need to start emailing and getting the website updated!

Matt68
January 30th, 2011, 08:46 AM
I hope for you the dealer is not so far away from you!
I'm in the states in march, so i hope to see some new models around then!

thesjkexperienc
January 31st, 2011, 05:42 PM
It seems the biggest dealers are in California and New Jersey/New York. But, that is where a lot of the people are as well! I'd also love to go to a store and try out 6-8 different LsLs.

I also figured out what is different with the headstock sticker. There is a very, very small TM or R under the last L and over the TS in Instruments. I enlarged a photo, so I cant bee perfectly sure about TM or R.

Guitar Whiskey
February 11th, 2011, 09:40 AM
I stopped by to visit the LSL shop on Wednesday. I’m planning to get a Saticoy and wanted to get an idea on what neck shapes they offered and which body wood to go with. Since I already have a TBone (Golda) I am aware of their build quality and reputation. I got to play a sea foam green pine body/rosewood board Saticoy owned by Steve Travato. Really a nice playing guitar. Made the decision to go ahead with one similar to Steve’s; probably will pick the vintage cream. Lance recommended the pine body/rosewood combination for the smoothness, chime, and great bass response. Here’s a pic of Golda.
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0493.jpg

Matt68
February 12th, 2011, 07:48 AM
Hey Guitar Whiskey, very nice looking Baby ! Your Champ is also cool.

Matt

Nixon Now
February 13th, 2011, 04:43 PM
Hey Guitar Whiskey,

could you please post a short reply concerning the neck shape of Golda!? Was it a custom order as well or did you buy it "as it was"?

Thank you !

Guitar Whiskey
February 14th, 2011, 09:33 AM
Golda has a medium to large "C" shaped neck. It was not special ordered. I picked it new up at the Guitar Shoppe in Laguna Beach, California early 2010. At the time they had another black guard with a large soft "V" and a Saticoy with a maple board/neck. I like everything about Golda. The neck, feel, balance, pickups and tone. Just a great overall guitar that you don't have to do anything to except play it. The Champ has 2-10" 8 ohm Webers wired in parallel.

campfire
February 15th, 2011, 03:29 AM
Just a great overall guitar that you don't have to do anything to except play it.

+1, and amen.

thesjkexperienc
February 26th, 2011, 03:13 AM
Has anybody played the Jerry Donahue or either of the "Mongrel" guitars?

Matt68
February 26th, 2011, 08:34 AM
Not until now. I'm in the States in March and hope to find a Mongrel there!! I know, it's a small Chance to see one.
Guitar Attic in Daytona Beach has a Paisley T-Bone on order, hopefully it's there when i'm gonna visit Randy.

thesjkexperienc
March 1st, 2011, 12:19 AM
It seems as if a lot of news from LsL are coming up! But I´d like to take it back to a basic question: What difference do the pine and ash versions of the T-Bones make soundwise?

I had the opportunity to compare both versions during the last two weeks, and this the (personal) result of the comparison :razz:

Pine adds some smoothness to the expected Tele-like sound and makes it more "bluesy" and less "harsh". The pine version has more low end and more sustain than the ash version. In addition, I believe that it adds a more accoustic touch to the sound and makes it more "round". Nevertheless, there is mucho twang and chime and this thing can rock, with a tighter sound than the ash version.

Ash adds more brightness to the tone and gives you more of a "scream" when using an overdriven sound. As anyone would expect, this is just more of the classic tele sound you know from these guitars.

In my personal opinion, the pine is the better choice when it comes to more moody playing (clean or with mild overdrive), while the ash is better if you want to ROCK with that guitar, as it has remarkably more bite.
While the sound of the ash version does not need much explanation (as being very Tele-classic), the warm sound of the pine version instantly remembered me much of a Fender Princeton-Promo video by Jim Campilongo (you can find that on You Tube). It comes very close to that.


Can you clarify one thing. The pine is smoother/bluesier/rounder, but has more twang and chime? That seems like opposites unless the pickups are different on ash and pine.

I understand more bass, but how do the plain strings sound and feel on pine? Any additional info would be greatly appreciated!

I am trying to decide if I sell a Strat should I buy a: Sugar Pine T-Bone, swamp ash T-Bone with the hot P-88 pickup (I think it is called) or a Jerry Donahue. I would need to know the neck dimensions on the JD before buying and I might do a custom neck on on the T-Bones (.95" soft V to a 1" U or C at around the 6th fret). I first need to find out the dimensions of the C on the stock T-Bone SPs.

Nixon Now
March 3rd, 2011, 05:35 AM
I will try...

At first: of course both pine and ash T-Bones are vintage-like T-style guitars and that is what they sound like in the first place.

I did not mean to say that the pine has more twang and chime than the ash. I just wanted to point out, that pine does not sound "dull", allthough being more "bluesy". I really think, the best way to get an impression of the pine sound is to have a listen at Jim Campilongo, who loves "bassy" Tele-PUs, as he calls it. And the LsL pine-T-Bone sounds pretty much like that to me. Concerning the plain strings and overall impression compared to the ash version, I feel that from the both guitars that I can talk about, the pine version has more string differentiation. On the other hand, the ash version has more attack / a more percussive tone on the neck PU (which I love!!!). But don´t worry: both are beautiful... ;-)

I believe that both guitars have the same PUs, as far as this is possible, as they are hand wound and there might be slight differences due to the production process.

I can not say anything about the P88 PU (a stronger T-style? Does P88 give a hint at a "close to P90 output"?). But concerning the neck shapings, I feel that the T-Bones do not have a standard neck dimension. There are several options and Lance and his folks seem to pick the one they like, as long as it is not a custom order (which takes 6 to 12 months at the moment, as far as I know...). There are T-Bones around with fat-C (Baseball-bat), medium-C and medium-V-morphing-into-medium-C-at-higher-frets necks.

I hope this has helped you?

Guitar Whiskey
March 3rd, 2011, 12:48 PM
There are several options and Lance and his folks seem to pick the one they like, as long as it is not a custom order (which takes 6 to 12 months at the moment, as far as I know...).

My experience has been that 6 to 12 months for a custom neck is not accurate. I know they are busy but depending what the custom order is, it would not be that long!

thesjkexperienc
March 5th, 2011, 10:05 PM
Yes, Nixon Now. I was thinking pine, but I love the immediacy of ash & maple. But, I am not big on high output pickups either, so I might lean towards pine.

I got the impression the T-88 or P-88 was hinting at P-90 output levels which would sound jaw dropping through my Vic 5e3 w/Blue! I did originally think I was going to put Don Mares in Maya, like all my Strats have, but it would be a mistake.

While emailing Lance I mentioned my love for thick 7 1/4" radius necks, but he mentioned he has gotten a lot of pressure to make more thinner necks and even 9.5" (the horror!!).

I need to start getting bolder and consider selling my Taylor 12 other than locally. I just hate shipping an acoustic!! I should also test the waters with my '68 Strat RI.

Does anyone know how thick the stock C neck is on the SP T-Bones?

thesjkexperienc
March 14th, 2011, 02:57 PM
My experience has been that 6 to 12 months for a custom neck is not accurate. I know they are busy but depending what the custom order is, it would not be that long!

I am beginning to wonder what the wait time is. Several dealers have spots for the new models on their sites and two months after NAMM they still don't seem to have them. The only thing I have seen come through are a bunch of Paisley T-Bones.

After playing my LsL so much the last few weeks I went and played my Fender Strats and they just seem to be missing something. It is like the sound is disorganized. I am starting to really like the one I was going to sell :roll: I just wish I could give a few Saticoys a spin before committing to a custom. The selection of Saticoys in shops is much thinner than T-Bones.

Guitar Whiskey
March 16th, 2011, 05:06 PM
I am beginning to wonder what the wait time is. Several dealers have spots for the new models on their sites and two months after NAMM they still don't seem to have them. The only thing I have seen come through are a bunch of Paisley T-Bones.

After playing my LsL so much the last few weeks I went and played my Fender Strats and they just seem to be missing something. It is like the sound is disorganized. I am starting to really like the one I was going to sell :roll: I just wish I could give a few Saticoys a spin before committing to a custom. The selection of Saticoys in shops is much thinner than T-Bones.

I visited Lance a few weeks ago to work out the details of how I wanted to have him build my Saticoy. During my visit I picked out the neck shape and the actual piece of rosewood to be used for the fretboard. Following this I placed an order through True Tone in Santa Monica. The lead time quoted was 8 weeks which seems very reasonable so pulled the trigger. If you are concerned about trying before buying a custom order, Golden Age Fretted Instruments has a good assortment of Saticoys' which I presume you could buy on an approval basis. This is the color scheme I'm going for.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/Jacline.jpg

campfire
March 16th, 2011, 07:43 PM
Looks like my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe 62 RI. Great looking Saticoy.

thesjkexperienc
March 17th, 2011, 12:03 PM
If you go custom do you get to name the guitar?:razz:

Looks like a nice one you have coming! Can you let us live vicariously through you and let us know some details?

Guitar Whiskey
March 17th, 2011, 02:45 PM
If you go custom do you get to name the guitar?:razz:

Looks like a nice one you have coming! Can you let us live vicariously through you and let us know some details?

Yes, this one is going to be Robin (wife's name). It will be a vintage cream pine body, mint green guard, neck contoured like a 1968 Stratocaster and 7-1/4" radius.

thesjkexperienc
March 17th, 2011, 04:33 PM
Very nice! I saw one with my Daughters name on it, so I didn't know if they would do two of the same.

Can you tell me why they recommend going with rosewood on a pine body for Saticoys? A pine Saticoy with a thick V rosewood neck in DeSoto blue would kill!

Guitar Whiskey
March 17th, 2011, 04:59 PM
Very nice! I saw one with my Daughters name on it, so I didn't know if they would do two of the same.

Can you tell me why they recommend going with rosewood on a pine body for Saticoys? A pine Saticoy with a thick V rosewood neck in DeSoto blue would kill!

Lance indicated that the pine and rosewood neck combo sounds fantasitic with great balance, chime, sustain, and warmth; as well as being light and comfortable. I believe the name is the same as a serial number; not to be revisited. But I'm not Lance; you could call him and ask. He can fill you in on the tone details of different wood combinations as well. While I was there he showed me Steve Travato's foam green Saticoy which is a fantastic guitar. I decided to pretty much go for one like Steve's only with the vintage cream paint scheme.

thesjkexperienc
March 17th, 2011, 06:42 PM
Now, if it were as easy to sell guitars as it is to buy! It seems all my best guitars were purchased used, so if any of you have really great T-Bones or Saticoys please let me talk you out of them or trade me for a Taylor 12 string :)

embot
March 18th, 2011, 04:05 AM
Hi everyone. Its good to see that there are fans of LsL here. Here are my two babies - a T-bone and a Saticoy.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/mn26288/lsl105.jpg

thesjkexperienc
March 18th, 2011, 05:07 AM
WOW! What color is that Saticoy? My almost 3 yo daughter might come over and steal it lol!

Your T-Bone looks a lot like mine.

embot
March 18th, 2011, 11:31 AM
The color is ice pink and your daughter will have to fight my daughter for it. The saticoy's name is "K" (my daughter's nickname). She's got an alder body and 9.5" radius fretboard.

My T-bone is named Mayos (named after my wife). The body is Ash. Fretboard is 7.25". Weights around 6.5 lbs. Very resonant. She's the first "closet classic" style relic to come out of Lance's shop. Here are more pictures of her.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/mn26288/lsl3.jpg
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/mn26288/lsl4.jpg

Guitar Whiskey
March 18th, 2011, 11:55 AM
The wood on the T-Bone neck is unreal!

Matt68
March 19th, 2011, 12:44 PM
Hey Embot, congrats to that two beautys. I love the ice pink Saticoy! WOW!

Matt

embot
March 19th, 2011, 11:14 PM
Thanks guys. Wow pretty much sums up the reaction the saticoy gets whenever I bring her out. Here's another photo.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa20/mn26288/IMG_0195.jpg

thesjkexperienc
March 21st, 2011, 12:46 PM
A lot of Fender pinks look nauseating, but Ice Pink looks great!

I am guessing you custom ordered to get the names you wanted. How much extra does it cost for a figured neck? And, is your T-Bone a one piece body? And, if so, how much extra does that cost?

embot
March 21st, 2011, 05:21 PM
Thanks.

Yes. Both guitars were custom ordered and both guitars have one piece bodies. When I ordered the T- bone, LsL was still relatively unknown and not that busy. I told Lance to just call me when something special comes up. About a month later Lance calls and invites me to the shop. So I go to the shop and Mayos was being strung on the bench (I live about 15 minutes from LsL) by Avi. Avi hands over the guitar to me and I played an E chord unplugged. Man....that guitar just rang and vibrated almost like an acoustic guitar. Lance and company created a special guitar that day and they still do.

Anyway, I'm rambling here. To answer your question, no - I did not have to pay extra for the flame neck or the one piece body.

thesjkexperienc
March 22nd, 2011, 08:52 PM
Cool! I got my T-Bone second hand, but it looked unplayed! It is a one piece ash body and it resonates far differently than my two piece body guitars. It reminds me of my nice Martins where after 20 minutes the body is so alive it feels like it's hollow.

I am still looking for a used Saticoy or sugar pine T-Bone. Since getting the LsL two of my three Fender Strats are gathering dust.

Guitar Whiskey
March 23rd, 2011, 11:07 PM
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p63/custom15lover/IMG_2014.jpg

Does anyone know what guitar ("LSL given name") Carl is playing. Was there a video for this event? What type body wood was used?

embot
March 24th, 2011, 01:21 AM
Does anyone know what guitar ("LSL given name") Carl is playing. Was there a video for this event? What type body wood was used?

That guitar is "Nelly" and its made of sugar pine. Its weighs about 5.5 lbs. The hot rodded T-bone in the background is actually my guitar "Mayos" - in disguise. hahaha. They installed the handpainted pickguard and hotter P88 pickups on Mayos for NAMM.

Guitar Whiskey
March 24th, 2011, 05:35 PM
That guitar is "Nelly" and its made of sugar pine. Its weighs about 5.5 lbs. The hot rodded T-bone in the background is actually my guitar "Mayos" - in disguise. hahaha. They installed the handpainted pickguard and hotter P88 pickups on Mayos for NAMM.

Ah; ...... I see now that this is an ice pink Saticoy; http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=11013115565129 which was subsequently sold.
My color vision is not good so and was seeing this as a vintage cream color. Thanks....

I take it this is just a photo and not part of a video; right?

Guitar Whiskey
March 24th, 2011, 06:22 PM
I am still looking for a used Saticoy or sugar pine T-Bone. Since getting the LsL two of my three Fender Strats are gathering dust.

FYI; noticed this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/LSL-Saticoy-Beautiful-Sounds-Awsome-Play-Awesome-/330545581580?pt=Guitar&hash=item4cf60d4e0c

thesjkexperienc
March 26th, 2011, 12:10 AM
I have had my eye on that Saticoy as well. I suspect it will go for a nice price with the bidding starting so early and so high.

Has anyone compared a rosewood/pine to a rosewood/alder Saticoy? It seems pine is suddenly the "Wood of the Moment" and I don't get out enough to find a Pine guitar to play to see how it feels and sounds.

embot
March 26th, 2011, 10:56 PM
Ah; ...... I see now that this is an ice pink Saticoy; http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=11013115565129 which was subsequently sold.
My color vision is not good so and was seeing this as a vintage cream color. Thanks....

I take it this is just a photo and not part of a video; right?

Might not be your eyes. It looks kinda "creamish" in that picture to my eyes too. Ice pink changes in hue from a pink to a silvery cream color depending on the angle of the light.

I think your right about this is just being a photograph. So far there's nothing in You Tube about this jam. However, knowing Lance Lerman and his propensity for taking videos of everything, he might have a video of this jam but hasn't had the time to post it. I'll have ask him next time I see him.

embot
March 26th, 2011, 11:17 PM
I have had my eye on that Saticoy as well. I suspect it will go for a nice price with the bidding starting so early and so high.

Has anyone compared a rosewood/pine to a rosewood/alder Saticoy? It seems pine is suddenly the "Wood of the Moment" and I don't get out enough to find a Pine guitar to play to see how it feels and sounds.

I've tried one or two pine Saticoys so my experience might not be accurate. To me it seems that pine is a mellower version of ash. Almost the same tone but just a softer attack. Alder to me is stronger in the mids.

You might be able to compare for your self pretty soon. I don't know how close you are to Wildwood but I've heard that they placed a pretty big order after NAMM.

thesjkexperienc
March 27th, 2011, 11:57 PM
I live right by Wildwood and am friends with the owner. I don't get in there much anymore because my 2.9 year old twins would trash the place!

This is really exciting!

I just checked their website and they have two T-Bones in Sugar Pine!! I stopped looking at their site because I have been looking at the LsL dealer list which they are not on yet.

Guitar Whiskey
April 11th, 2011, 06:08 PM
Stopped by LsL last week; Lance carved out the neck for my Saticoy. It looks and feels great. I'm going with a 60's neck shape, rosewood board and pine body. Will keep you guys posted on the progress.

thesjkexperienc
April 17th, 2011, 11:56 AM
Cool! I got to play the maple/pine T-Bone at my local store and compare it to my maple/SA. One big difference is I had pure nickels on mine and the action was much higher. The neck was about .9" where mine is 1" and I feel the larger/thicker neck drives the body more and changes the tone a lot.

The pine guitar also had a one piece body and I did notice it was slightly spongier on the attack, sustained well and resonated well. The plain strings had a bit more snap or brightness and the wound strings were less responsive than my guitar. I can see why they recommend a rosewood cap for the pine to take a bit of edge off of the top notes.

All in all I think I prefer Swamp Ash over the pine, but then this was a sample of one and I suspect that the pine guitar I played was just not "my" guitar which accounted for some of my feelings. It would have been interesting to set up the guitar the way I like as far as saddles, strings and action how it would match up.

thesjkexperienc
April 17th, 2011, 11:58 AM
What hardware are they putting on the Saticoy these days? Do you think Lance would put on a Callaham trem unit as a custom order?

embot
April 21st, 2011, 04:07 AM
They're using a Wilkinson bridge/trem unit. When I was having my Saticoy built Lance indicated that if the Callaham unit matched the string spacing of the Wilkinson they'll install it. I'd have to supply the Callaham bridge though.

In the end I just decided to stay with the Wilkinson unit. After all I liked the Saticoys that I played so far.

Guitar Whiskey
April 23rd, 2011, 06:42 PM
Picked up the guitar a few days ago at Truetone and am really pleased with how it came out. Pine body in sea foam with the 60's pickups. A few pics for your viewing pleasure. Lance did everything he said he would do and did it spectacularly. The guitar sounds and plays beatifully. Nice warm tone with good bite and individual string definition. It's light as a feather. The Wilkenson bridge works just fine for me and the fret work is the best I've ever seen.

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0925.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0918.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0922.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0924.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0919.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g80/guitarswhiskey/IMG_0920.jpg

embot
April 25th, 2011, 04:41 PM
Congratultions Whiskey. She's a beauty.

Matt68
May 1st, 2011, 04:05 AM
WOW, what a Beauty! Congrats to her.

Matt

Teleclasster
May 13th, 2011, 11:16 AM
First, welcome to the T-bone club, discussion about LsL guitars is welcome here. Tell your LsL story or ask about LsL guitars.

LsL only builds to a few specs, not a lot of options, but they have a great recipe for a vintage looking, feeling, sounding, and playing guitar. LsL purposely routes the neck pocket shallower than a stock tele so that the strings ride high and have a steep break angle over the saddles. The bodies and necks are cut, shaped, and sanded by hand in California. Their pups are wound in house. They also make their own truss rods and pickguards. If you email them after purchasing one, Lance will send you some extra spec's specific to your guitar.


I have a swamp ash T-bone "Teri" and it is probably the best tele that I have owned or played. Mine is a lightweight weighing in at 6 3/4 lbs. It is very resonant and loud. The neck is a full C shape, it is a thick as any Nocaster neck.

When I bought mine, the shop had several Nocasters and this LsL, I tried them all and the LsL stood out in both tone and feel.

I'll try to get some pics up soon.

I'm the second owner of 'Chrissie', a sugar pine T-bone. Just had a Bill Warford B bender installed in it, as I play in a band doing old country classics. This is the best tele I've owned, although I may eventually like to find a hotter bridge pu..

Teleclasster
May 13th, 2011, 11:18 AM
First, welcome to the T-bone club, discussion about LsL guitars is welcome here. Tell your LsL story or ask about LsL guitars.

LsL only builds to a few specs, not a lot of options, but they have a great recipe for a vintage looking, feeling, sounding, and playing guitar. LsL purposely routes the neck pocket shallower than a stock tele so that the strings ride high and have a steep break angle over the saddles. The bodies and necks are cut, shaped, and sanded by hand in California. Their pups are wound in house. They also make their own truss rods and pickguards. If you email them after purchasing one, Lance will send you some extra spec's specific to your guitar.


I have a swamp ash T-bone "Teri" and it is probably the best tele that I have owned or played. Mine is a lightweight weighing in at 6 3/4 lbs. It is very resonant and loud. The neck is a full C shape, it is a thick as any Nocaster neck.

When I bought mine, the shop had several Nocasters and this LsL, I tried them all and the LsL stood out in both tone and feel.

I'll try to get some pics up soon.

I'm the second owner of 'Chrissy', a sugar pine T-bone. Just had a Bill Warford B bender installed in it, as I play in a band doing old country classics. This is the best tele I've owned, although I may eventually like to find a hotter bridge pu..

campfire
May 13th, 2011, 03:59 PM
I'm the second owner of 'Chrissy', a sugar pine T-bone. Just had a Bill Warford B bender installed in it, as I play in a band doing old country classics. This is the best tele I've owned, although I may eventually like to find a hotter bridge pu..

I am the first owner of a swamp ash LSL tele named "Krissy!" I've had her about a year now. I'm quite happy with the stock pickups. They are mellow-dee!

tkdstrat
May 22nd, 2011, 04:03 PM
Hello I am new to this forum, my name is Ben. I have never owned a tele never liked them until a few days ago when I was told to try out this black and blue paisley LSL tele. I was knocked off my feet! I bought it and have not played any of the other multitude of guitars I have. Such bell like tones of beauty, and the guitar can definitely rock out. I think this guitar has magic dust on it. I wrote to lance and told him so. Thanks Ben.

tkdstrat
May 22nd, 2011, 07:30 PM
Hello again, My tele is named "Kiyoko" I also have a LSL Saticoy strat named Shona that is also quite good. My other favs are a Grosh Classic strat with a Ash body and Madagascar Rosewood fretboard, It is pretty heavy reliced, Mary Kay White with abalone fret markers. Also a 62 Greg Fessler 2010 roadshow Masterbuilt strat that is also quite nice and super chimey.

thesjkexperienc
June 9th, 2011, 05:44 PM
I still love my Maya. I am going to install a Stelly neck by Don Mare, a zero load tone pot and a paper in oil cap this weekend. I just hope the new pickup plays well with the existing LsL bridge pup.

thesjkexperienc
June 26th, 2011, 11:34 AM
Has anyone looked at the wiring of their T-Bone? None of the Tele schematics look anything like it! I want to put a zero load tone pot on Maya, but under the middle lug is a black wire that goes into the tone pot. I dont want to mess with it until I am sure I know what I am doing.

I changed out the neck pickup to a Mare Stelly and I noticed the LsL has the same form factor as the Stelly. I want to put a different cover on it to gain more highs, but I cant get the cover off. The Stelly sounds really good and is far more usable than stock, but I think the stock unit would kill if it had a non-brass cover!

I cant read the writing on the orange drop cap, but it looks to be larger than a .05. Does anyone know the exact value?

stevebajauk
July 4th, 2011, 07:58 AM
Someone please sell me a t-bone.

thesjkexperienc
July 5th, 2011, 02:43 AM
They're using a Wilkinson bridge/trem unit. When I was having my Saticoy built Lance indicated that if the Callaham unit matched the string spacing of the Wilkinson they'll install it. I'd have to supply the Callaham bridge though.

In the end I just decided to stay with the Wilkinson unit. After all I liked the Saticoys that I played so far.

I finally got to play a Saticoy in person and really liked the feel! But, I didn't like the string spacing at the bridge and it appears Lance isn't always building the guitars so the saddles are high.

I dont know why Lance would need/want to build his S-Style guitars with a non-vintage spacing. That would be a deal killer for me.

I am taking Maya in for a flat file and fret dressing today. I am hoping this helps my intonation troubles.

mkster
July 23rd, 2011, 03:13 AM
Hi guys , i am a big fan of the LsL guitar there seems to be really special guitars , and i am quite envious of all of you guys .

This is for T bone owner .

I am a guy of details and the things i here about there shallow neck routing and i am quite interested by this detail.

So i have 2 questions for you guys , and i will compare to regular fender made telecaster data , and keep you guys in the loop of my discoveries .

First a regular telecaster has a neck pocket 5/8 deep , is yours the same or a bit short .

And second what is the distance between the middle of the 12th fret and the back of the bridge (where the saddle screws are anchored ).

For accuracy purpose 2 or more answer would be great but i will gladly take any info . PM accepted .

Thank you for your time .

Mark

campfire
October 20th, 2011, 03:08 PM
Hi guys , i am a big fan of the LsL guitar there seems to be really special guitars , and i am quite envious of all of you guys .

This is for T bone owner .

I am a guy of details and the things i here about there shallow neck routing and i am quite interested by this detail.

So i have 2 questions for you guys , and i will compare to regular fender made telecaster data , and keep you guys in the loop of my discoveries .

First a regular telecaster has a neck pocket 5/8 deep , is yours the same or a bit short .

And second what is the distance between the middle of the 12th fret and the back of the bridge (where the saddle screws are anchored ).

For accuracy purpose 2 or more answer would be great but i will gladly take any info . PM accepted .

Thank you for your time .

Mark

I measured my LSL T-bone "Krissy", and the neck pocket is 5/8ths inch deep from the bottom of the neck pocket to the fingerboard edge, and the distance from middle of 12th fret to the end of bridge plate is 13 1/2 inches. Hope this helps!

724SP
November 9th, 2011, 07:53 PM
Picked up a T-Bone named 'Truly'...she lives up to her name! What a great guitar. Plays like a dream and really resonates beautifully. Pickups are extremely versatile...I won't be changing a thing. Not really relic'd, more like a closet classic finish. Really nice. Anyway, here are a few Pics:

eleloy
November 11th, 2011, 01:14 PM
Hi, I'm a happy owner of a T-Bone called "Paloma"...
Sugar pine, maple neck, super-resonant, white aged...
Fantastic guitar IMO.

campfire
November 11th, 2011, 05:18 PM
Welcome, eleloy! We must see pics!

Matt68
November 18th, 2011, 12:32 PM
Congrats to your new Guitars, 724SP and eleloy!

Dom1985
November 19th, 2011, 04:12 PM
http://www.tdpri.com/phpclassifieds/showproduct.php?product=27469&title=lsl-instruments-52-5-t-bone-swamp-a&cat=9

hoznomore
December 4th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Greetings!

I'm new here...and very pleased to connect with telecaster experts and in particular, LsL enthusiasts. Thank you all for starting this 'club' and for the community.

Tomorrow I will be taking delivery of two LsL guitars. A T-Bone and a Saticoy. BOTH in Ice Pink...both lightly aged. The T-Bone will have an ash body and maple neck/board...the Saticoy has an alder body and a rosewood board.

A rather long story here...but as you are all probably as nerdy as am I, I imagine some of you might enjoy it...read on if you like...or, please excuse my verbose story!

I am 52 years old, a professional musician across many genres and both a guitar player and a bass player. I'm also an engineer and producer - recently engineering and producing a release for Drew Zingg with Will Lee, George Whitty and Vinnie Colaiuta on board...there are many other productions I have done which, if you are interested, you can check out at my website, petitjazz.com. I give you this as background, not as boast.
My first stratocaster type guitar was in fact an early '70s that I purchased whilst in college...was none to fond of it...then changed the neck on that to a tele neck made by kubicki. Improvement...but I let that hybrid go to some guy in a band called 'Moon Boot Love'r up in Vermont in the late 80's. Such is life.
In 1982, I asked John Suhr to make a strat for me...which he did. I had that strat until about 6 months ago - hard to part with it, but it was not what I wanted any more. Don't ge me wrong here...JS is a great friend and an amazing builder and innovator. But sometimes one has to change flavors. A collector in France purchased that old beaut for over $5k. He's happy, I am happy.
But what I always wanted was a fantastic tele and a fantastic strat that had the vibe, the sound and the mojo of the original designs. And try as I did, I could find nothing that really fit...unless I went into the $7k+ range...and I believe that is absurd.


In 1968 (yup!), when I was 9 years old, my father took the family to drive down through Florida on the old A-1a coastal highway...

Pause for a moment...1968...the age of Cocoa Beach, Nasa, The Pink Flamingo Motel, crew-cuts, saying 'please and thank you', I Dream of Genie...at least for a 9 year old. Picture the coastal highway BEFORE all the big hotels, the bars and new cities...instead, there was a two lane road, no stop lights, dunes on the one side, scrub grass on the other...lots of neon signed motels and a feeling of wonder, due to my age, I guess...

One night we pulled into The Collonnades Beach Hotel, where they used to film 'Treasure Island', a T.V. game show. "..find it, and the treasure is yours...", etc.

There was a hotel house band...pretty big group. My brother and I were taken to hear them one night...and there, in the front row, behind the white podium-type music stand was a guitarist playing one or the other of two electric solid body fenders...a strat and a tele...

...and BOTH were shell pink. And I can still hear this guy in my head and I have a clear photo just behind my eyes of the way those guitars looked. And every time I have played or almost purchased a tele or a strat since then, I have wished for those two guitars.

But REAL sounds and build.

So after a long period of research, owning a few strat-type guitars and lusting after the perfect tele, I played Grosh, Hahn, Andersen, Suhr and too many fenders to count...and then I heard and played the LsL range...search over.

Tomorrow I will have a T-Bone and a Saticoy with the exact finish I want and sound. A matched pair. And Lance has given them 1960's names...Genie, and Gidget-Lynn.

And once I have reveled in them for a bit. I will post pictures and reactions...but I think you all know the tenor of those reviews already...

Thanks for reading - a pleasure to join you all here.

George Petit
nyc

campfire
December 5th, 2011, 03:41 AM
Welcome, hoznomore. I know you will love your LSL pair, must be nice to get 2 at a time! That's almost TOO much excitement for 1 person. Enjoy, and don't be a stranger!

ggratzer
December 8th, 2011, 08:52 PM
"Mia Beth" is due to arrive tomorrow. A butterscotch blond. She is going to have to steal my love from my Fender American Special. I hope she's successful.

campfire
December 9th, 2011, 04:52 AM
"Mia Beth" is due to arrive tomorrow. A butterscotch blond. She is going to have to steal my love from my Fender American Special. I hope she's successful.

That'll be easy. No contest IMO. If you love vintage Fenders, the LSL's are the "right" feel. Good luck and let us know how you like her.

campfire
December 9th, 2011, 04:57 AM
Greetings!

"And once I have reveled in them for a bit. I will post pictures and reactions...but I think you all know the tenor of those reviews already...

Thanks for reading - a pleasure to join you all here."

George Petit
nyc

Well...have you finished reveling in them? Reactions? Pics?

hoznomore
December 10th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Not quite yet ! But I promise I will asap !

hoznomore
December 12th, 2011, 09:03 AM
Well I have to say a few things at this point...

The Finish: I asked for the Ice Pink on both guitars and on both guitars it is an outstanding job...this is a unique finish that is really its own thing. It reminds me of that old shell pink I saw as a kid, but it also is a pink over blue finish...so that when the light changes on the guitar, it can have this glacial glow to it...it's pretty fantastic. Lance aged the guitars 'slightly' for me...without a lot of body dings, but certainly a vintage look...really great job.
The Body: Again - the handmade thing is great - - they are obviously one offs....light weight and a true vintage shape. Perfect balance with the neck counter weight.
The Sound: Well, I am a New Yorker so...fuggedaboudit !! I spent YEARS looking for a tele and strat style that REALLY sounds authentic, plays great and has all the vibe of a 50's Fender....without paying the custom shop $7k...and this is it. I've played a couple of Andersens, The Suhrs. The Hahn, The Grosh...and they are all pretty great guitars. But I will be clear that I have not played a T or S that touches either of these...no way no how.
The Neck: The necks I asked for were a maple on the tele and a rosewood on the strat....sorry...the T-Bone and the Saticoy. I also asked that the backs of the necks be sanded - I like the really worn-in feeling. Lance picked two GREAT necks for me...but there is a real issue here...and it is MINE ! Not being adequately educated on the various radii of the fingerboards, I ordered two vintage radii at 6.26. This was a mistake. I play mostly Gibsons these days and of course their radius is about 10 or 12...so I had a problem...although these 6.25's were PERFECT for that radius, I was never going to be super comfortable with them...so I sent both guitars back to Lance, asking that they be reshaped or changed out for 9.5 radius necks. Had to - and this is in NO WAY a reflection on LsL...they did what I asked for...the mistake is mine.

So all that said? They are fantastic playing and sounding instruments - EASILY worth the money and they hit every, every mark I set...I couldn't be happier or more impressed. In fact 2012 will likely find me buying two more - an ash/maple saticoy and a pine t-bone...

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it ! BUY THESE GUTARS !!!

G

Teleclasster
December 14th, 2011, 10:02 AM
Well I have to say a few things at this point...

The Finish: I asked for the Ice Pink on both guitars and on both guitars it is an outstanding job...this is a unique finish that is really its own thing. It reminds me of that old shell pink I saw as a kid, but it also is a pink over blue finish...so that when the light changes on the guitar, it can have this glacial glow to it...it's pretty fantastic. Lance aged the guitars 'slightly' for me...without a lot of body dings, but certainly a vintage look...really great job.
The Body: Again - the handmade thing is great - - they are obviously one offs....light weight and a true vintage shape. Perfect balance with the neck counter weight.
The Sound: Well, I am a New Yorker so...fuggedaboudit !! I spent YEARS looking for a tele and strat style that REALLY sounds authentic, plays great and has all the vibe of a 50's Fender....without paying the custom shop $7k...and this is it. I've played a couple of Andersens, The Suhrs. The Hahn, The Grosh...and they are all pretty great guitars. But I will be clear that I have not played a T or S that touches either of these...no way no how.
The Neck: The necks I asked for were a maple on the tele and a rosewood on the strat....sorry...the T-Bone and the Saticoy. I also asked that the backs of the necks be sanded - I like the really worn-in feeling. Lance picked two GREAT necks for me...but there is a real issue here...and it is MINE ! Not being adequately educated on the various radii of the fingerboards, I ordered two vintage radii at 6.26. This was a mistake. I play mostly Gibsons these days and of course their radius is about 10 or 12...so I had a problem...although these 6.25's were PERFECT for that radius, I was never going to be super comfortable with them...so I sent both guitars back to Lance, asking that they be reshaped or changed out for 9.5 radius necks. Had to - and this is in NO WAY a reflection on LsL...they did what I asked for...the mistake is mine.

So all that said? They are fantastic playing and sounding instruments - EASILY worth the money and they hit every, every mark I set...I couldn't be happier or more impressed. In fact 2012 will likely find me buying two more - an ash/maple saticoy and a pine t-bone...

That's my story and I'm stickin' to it ! BUY THESE GUTARS !!!

G

George,
Congrats on getting your pair of LsL's! They are incredibly cool guitars, I love my TBone more everyday since I received it last January. See you on fb, Bill B:mrgreen:

talpa
December 14th, 2011, 07:07 PM
have an early 5.xlb pine unit from '99, brought back across the border custom build for a CN dealer. named Emma, pic is in my sig photos. one of the super fat necks - an NFS piece. infinite sustain like a good Melody Maker can. it will essentially do a Les Paul tone when the gear is set right, it can get that meaty. are they still built to this level ?

neck has never been removed - not ready to loose that last 5% when u hear the 'craack'

met Lance at the Austin amp show last year(?) - ace cat/gent

this tele & a 65Amps Stone Pony cops complete Keith Richards. the capo/open G tunes are scary good.

Buffalo Bob
January 1st, 2012, 08:31 PM
I just purchased a LSL paisley t-bone sugar pine two days ago and i like it very much...Once had a 1952 that i regretfully let go many years ago....I tried a few out through the years but none ever had the mojo until I picked up this LSL..i have never heard of LSL until I picked this one off the wall in a store here in st.louis mo..(eddies guitars)...As soon as I held the guitar , noticed how light it was and then found that the neck felt like my old 52..Funny that when I’ve walked through guitar center & picked up a tele & it feels heavy to me I sit it right back down ,I don’t even bother trying the neck..So i got to the second stage with this LSL and tried the neck..Man, knew right then the guitar was going to sound good & if it didn’t I was going to somehow make it sound good (pickups etc) but it sounds great as is and I got it..
The name on it is SILVER but it's not silver ,it's the black burst going to the paisley design on vintage crème...so why the name silver i don’t know...but i imagine there is a serial number somewhere on this instrument...

I play professionally with my own blues band but don’t travel anymore...semi- retired and play average 2-3 times a week out these days ..Not like 7 nights when I was young.I am not a country guitar player as probably most tele players are but this guitar can fit in all the music i play (bb king to jeff beck , R&b to zz top ,if required that is)...

Enough about me ..The guitar is great and i highly recommend folks to try one if you want to know what a good tele is all about..fender still makes good tele’s I’m sure but i have yet to find one unless it's a custom relic and the cost of those is way out there for me, even though LSL are not cheap…

LSL very are good guitars and i like the fact that they make them mostly all by hand..just had to talk about this thing..lol……BB

campfire
January 2nd, 2012, 04:01 AM
Welcome Bob! I am a HUGE fan of LSL guitars, especially their T-Bones. I think Lance and the boys got it right on these. I wish more people would talk about their sound, string setup and amp type they use for their best T-Bone sound, etc.

Buffalo Bob
January 2nd, 2012, 12:47 PM
Welcome Bob! I am a HUGE fan of LSL guitars, especially their T-Bones. I think Lance and the boys got it right on these. I wish more people would talk about their sound, string setup and amp type they use for their best T-Bone sound, etc.

WELL i can tell you that the strings feel like 10's on it and thats what i use anyway..my amp is an Allen old flame head (guts of a super reverb) combined with a 1x12 eminince neo -diedeum (spelling,ugh?) speaker...and with that amp all my guitars sound like they should & do...i'll use my LSL mostly for blues but im sure it will cover many kinds of music.......will be playing it out this coming weekend so then i can say more (sustain ,etc) as i only tried it in the store with their amp and cannot crank it here where i live...my sound also involves a light overdrive ,a bearfoot honey bee and a visual sound open road.....

Like some one said earlier ,i just cant put this guitar down ..the neck & weight make it such a pleasure to play..and i usually at this stage of the game dont practice anymore...lol

I will be able to say more after this week as i have a gig this friday that covers everything i do then my sunday gig is all blues....the blues is a given on this guitar..

Teleclasster
January 2nd, 2012, 05:15 PM
I wish more people would talk about their sound, string setup and amp type they use for their best T-Bone sound, etc.

I use 10's, but really should be using 11's. My T-Bone goes to a Diamond compressor, Barber LTD, TU-2, to a Vibrolux. I have a Klone pedal on the way that will go between the comp and LTD.

Nixon Now
January 2nd, 2012, 05:33 PM
I use 10s as well (I still like Ernie Ball the most for T-style guitars, although I tried several others...) and I LOVE my butterscotch blonde pine T-Bone when paired with a Fender Princeton (Reverb on 4 or 5, sometimes with a little trem too... SWEET sound in all PU positions) and it matches beautifully with the Lovepedal Amp Eleven overdrive which I strongly (!!!!!) recommend for any single coil equipped guitar (including P90s!).

campfire
January 3rd, 2012, 02:25 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys. I myself use 10's (Ernie Ball or D'Addario) on all my Fender-style (25&1/2 scale) guitars and 11's on my Gibson-style (24&3/4) guitars. I like my action set a little high for most people, so I can get a really clear tone with no buzzes or choking on bends. (My LSL has the 7.5 radius)

So, with my T-Bone, I go straight through a Tungsten tweed Bandmaster clone. (3-10" Weber's) @ around 35 watts. I sometimes use a Soul-mate reverb unit for a little ambiance if it's a really dead or dry room.

I've also been known to use my LSL through an old Toneking "Comet" that I've had for about 10 years. (with the original tubes!) Best amp I've ever bought.

Buffalo Bob
January 3rd, 2012, 04:05 PM
Sounds like everyone has good amps to run the lsl through....long as an amp reproduces what the guitar really sounds like i think it doesnt matter what make it is...dirty amps can really change a good guitars pure tone,,thats why i prefer an amp leaning towards the clean side then you can go from there...I am still on the honeymoon with my new LSL but i believe it will be a lasting relationship...a keeper...
I dont think we will be getting into high tech talk about this guitar ..it's so simple & no bells or whistles yet thats the way i prefer it..It is just such a damn good guitar & simple . If there ever was a word to describe my sugar pine t-bone it would be simply "COOL"...in the pure meaning of the slang...lol

mkster
January 4th, 2012, 10:53 AM
I measured my LSL T-bone "Krissy", and the neck pocket is 5/8ths inch deep from the bottom of the neck pocket to the fingerboard edge, and the distance from middle of 12th fret to the end of bridge plate is 13 1/2 inches. Hope this helps!

Thank you very much sir !

Sorry for the long answering time , i just got to see it ...

happy new year !

Nixon Now
January 4th, 2012, 06:16 PM
Has anybody more details on the new LSL model "Bad Bone"? It basically appears to be a T-Bone with LSL-homemade Humbuckers...
I never was a Humbucker guy because of the mostly muddy and dull sound of the PUs compared to single coils. But I´d be very interested if anybody would have had the chance to try out a Bad Bone!

ChinaTwanger
January 7th, 2012, 05:10 PM
I have a few details on the Badbone:

It will have two LsL humbuckers that have a vintage humbucker tone. The bridge is mounted in a ring and the neck is mounted into the body so the pickup adjuster screws are not visible on that one. The guitar will be officially introduced at the upcoming NAMM show. We will also include a single, neck humbucker model at that time. We cut standard bridge plates so we continue to use our three saddles, springs and screws. So far everyone who has played seems pretty stunned. (in a good way) This same thing happened yesterday when our friend JP Cervoni came by and, as always, I put whatever new stuff we have into his hands. I really should have videoed this one because his reaction was priceless. He'd play a bit then look up with wide eyes and utter some expletive. So I can't wait to do the same at NAMM.
The Badbone will be available in all the usual colors and neck combinations.
THIS is going to be FUN...

Lance

Buffalo Bob
January 7th, 2012, 07:43 PM
Played my new t-bone last night and all i can say is the guitar is a keeper...won’t let this one go..LAST NIGHTS GIG ,i had to play blues ,r&b classic rock & surf (yes surf,lol) ..The lsl did a fine job in the sound dept all night..I was surprised that the rear pup sounded so good ..I usually dont like the bridge pup on tele's & strats but this t-bone's pups sounded great in all positions....

The bottom notes had very good definition and the guitar isnt twangy..Perhaps my amp settings (Allen old flame head ) contributed the sound but i had none of the twang that tele's are known for ..i may have dialed that out but i like it that way...

I was apprehensive playing Jeff beck covers in one set as i play a parker for that stuff with the whammy bar..But the tone was so nice on the t-bone that i gave it a go and really didn’t miss the bar except my thought process wanting to ride some feedback ...

Outstanding piece of wood ..Had a lot of compliments on the paisley design ...i think it's much better than fenders paisley..

This Sunday (tomorrow night) i will be doing my blues gig and this LSL guitar will not let me down as i did slip in some blues last night and it's all there in this guitar..such a nice fat round sound….

I sent an e-mail to lsl asking about my guitar as the store i got it from really didn’t have much info on it, have yet to hear from them..It’s a paisley pine t-bone..named silver....wonder why "silver" as it's paisley on vintage crème...but maybe I’ll get some info soon..
Anyway it's a great guitar ...i recommend to anyone that appreciates the real deal...i have been a professional musician for many decades (when i was young)and traveled on the road for 25 years backing up folks like the coasters, bo diddley ,chuck berry etc etc (A few vids on you tube folks have put out over the years)and now semi - retired playing mostly blues 2 -3 nights a week here in st.louis mo..I only add this to let everyone know I have been through some guitars in my time and that this LSL stands out as one of the good ones that I won’t let go till my number’s up…and then it will go to my son..

thesjkexperienc
January 8th, 2012, 04:18 AM
Hey, I haven't posted on the thread for some time and I thought I'd update.

I still LOVE Maya! I was initially dissatisfied with the neck pickup and replaced it for a Don Mare STelly and it was really good. I had the frets leveled and dressed along with some tweaks to the saddles which has made her play in tune better and restring easier.

I put the original neck pickup back in and it was still frustrating, but before taking it out I wanted to do the 50's wiring aka the Fezz Parka mod, so when I turn the volume down I don't lose the highs so much. The mod is a bit tricky as LsL uses a long piece of wire through the pot lug.

I can't believe how nice it is to have more punch and clarity as I turn the volume down! And guess what. THe neck pickup now matches the bridge pickup and all three positions are totally useable! So, before you are tempted to change pickups try the 50's/Fezz Parka mod first!

I looked back at the photos of Maya when I got her a year ago and I have managed to add quite a bit of arm wear. Also, my pickguard is shiny in spots from finger tips which is a little strange as for the most part I curl my fingers up and don't rest it on the guitar. It is also interesting to see how the pick scratch patterns are quite different from that on my Strats or Jazzmaster.

Hey Lance, any chance of a Telemaster/Jazzcaster style LsL down the road?

Nixon Now
January 8th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Hi Lance,

thank you for providing us with some more details on the Bad Bone and the upcoming sister model. As I wrote before, I always stayed with single coil PUs until now - but I could imagine that LSL could change my view, concerning my outstanding experiences with your guitars. I hope I can get my hands on one of that "Bad" model guitars one day...

Cheers!

Buffalo Bob
January 8th, 2012, 06:23 PM
just read some of the reply’s on here.. Lance the owner of lsl is on here..????? if so, i sent you a couple of e-mails inquiring about my new t-bone..Please check your mail.. it's the one with address "devilsbroom@"...need any & all info you can send me as i have a few musicians asking me already about the specs on this guitar ,me, I’m just wondering why it's named "silver"..lol..Thanks

ChinaTwanger
January 9th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Hey Buffalo,

I saw this post over the weekend and I had thought that I did reply to your email but I couldn't be sure until I got back to the shop this morning. I checked and indeed I did. I replied on both December 31st and again on January 3rd because I didn't get a reply from my first reply to you. I sent another today.

Nixon Now
January 9th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Hey Lance,

I appreciate your participation in this forum very much and I don´t want to force you into posting replies, but there is one more question about the Bad Bone that possibly can only be answered by its manufacturer at the moment:

I discovered a few first pictures of the model on the web and realised an additional toggle switch on the pickguard (in addition to the ususal 3 position PU-switch on the control panel). What is it for !?

Thank you !

ChinaTwanger
January 9th, 2012, 06:43 PM
To answer Nixon Now's question about the extra toggle switch.....

That's a kill switch. It just stops all output. We made one by request with that in it and then someone asked for another so now its optional. Sort of goofy but if folks want it, we'll do it.

Lance

Buffalo Bob
January 9th, 2012, 06:47 PM
Hey Buffalo,

I saw this post over the weekend and I had thought that I did reply to your email but I couldn't be sure until I got back to the shop this morning. I checked and indeed I did. I replied on both December 31st and again on January 3rd because I didn't get a reply from my first reply to you. I sent another today.

havent recieved an e-mail from you not even today..my address is devilsbroom@sbcglobal.net...thanks..

ChinaTwanger
January 9th, 2012, 07:43 PM
havent recieved an e-mail from you not even today..my address is devilsbroom@sbcglobal.net...thanks..


PM sent.....

ChinaTwanger
January 9th, 2012, 08:13 PM
Well as long as I'm here.......

This is for NAMM too.

http://www.lslinstruments.com/Images/publicimages/Topanga%201%20front%20600.jpg

Nixon Now
January 10th, 2012, 07:14 AM
Oooooh Nooooo! Don´t you do THAT!? WHY! Hell! I LOVE P90s and my LSL Instruments! So a combination of both may cause some trouble for me and my bank account...
I´m broke... I´d love to come to NAMM to try this baby... boohoo!

stevebajauk
February 7th, 2012, 04:28 AM
PLEASE! help me find a sugar pine t bone with 9.5 radius in based in the UK and have missed two on ebay because the owners are in USA and i cant even email them aboout possibly shipping over!

ps that gibbo lsl looks sweeeet :)

nixpix
February 13th, 2012, 09:18 PM
I'm happy to join the club! Here's "Rose Elena" with a Swamp Ash body and rosewood fretboard:

http://i1212.photobucket.com/albums/cc456/virtuosoguitarist/Laying2.jpg

Buffalo Bob
February 14th, 2012, 11:21 AM
thats beautiful !!!

campfire
February 14th, 2012, 03:12 PM
Yeah, I second that. It is really nice, that's a keeper.:smile:

nixpix
February 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Thanks a lot, guys! I'm glad to be part of the club!

Buffalo Bob
February 14th, 2012, 05:52 PM
ive come to the conclusion all LSL guitars are "keepers"...lol

C-Rad
August 27th, 2012, 05:12 PM
A few days ago I picked up "Miso" from the Music Gallery. A Bad Bone model ('bucker in the neck position) that has just blown me away. I've been playing over 25 years and have played my share of nice guitars, but boy, oh boy, these are special. My favorite tele, without question. These guys are really on to something here!

ermac68
September 8th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Just brought home "Jin", a sugar pine saticoy. This is my first LsL and I'm sure it wilmington me much pleasure. Will post pics and give my impressions once I get a chance to play with her awhile.

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alovik
September 15th, 2012, 03:24 PM
I've just bought T-bone Cleo A! The shipping from US to Norway was expensive, but absolutly worth it! My girlfriend jokes to her friends that I brings the guitar to bed... And she is closer to the truth than she knows :)

guitrr
December 16th, 2012, 10:22 AM
Penny, Tbone #69 I'm the original owner. Penny was bought several years ago; I was in Guitar Attic, a small mom and pop local guitar shop here in the Daytona Beach area. Not looking for anything, I had just stopped in to say hi to Randy and see what was new on the wall.

Penny was hanging next to another T-bone and a couple of Nash teles, and was the last one of the bunch I pulled off the wall to play. After playing her acoustically for about three or four minutes I put a deposit down on her. I went home and in the next week sold a guitar and an amp from my arsenal to pay for her. She's very light and extremely resonant.

Penny has been gigged pretty heavily, for the first six or eight months she was all original, then for about two years I had Barden bridge and pickups in her. Recently I reinstalled her original hardware, but have been waiting a year and a half for a set of Ron Ellis Broadcaster pickups, which I intend to put in Penny and see how that sounds. Not that I'm unhappy with the LSL pickups, on the contrary, they are terrific. It's just that we guitar players can't seem to not tinker with such things! I did put heavily knurled Callaham control knobs on her almost immediately, and those will never be replaced.

I never had the slightest interest in owning a relic'd guitar, just bought Penny for the way she felt and sounded. To my surprise, I discovered having a relic to be rather liberating. It's rare for me to allow someone else to play my guitars, and I never let anyone I don't know personally play them. However, with Penny that's not an issue - it's not like anyone's going to notice a cymbal ding in her finish! I occasionally host open mic or jam nights, and with Penny, if someone needs a guitar to play, I just hand her to them without worrying myself sick over whether they are going to hurt her.

Overall, she's been quite a trooper, and playing her has paid for her purchase many times over. She's certainly confirmed my first impressions when I put money on her without even hooking her up to an amp.

I've never actually spoken with Lance, but we're friends on Facebook, and in our conversations there he has always been gracious and very modest about the magic that happens in the LSL shop.

Kane

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dragonfly66
June 6th, 2013, 09:42 PM
I have waited months for this guitar and finally it arrived yesterday. Meet my T-Bone "Binny"!

After trading in lots of stuff I didn't want anymore at an LsL dealer, which had fabulous trade-in values, I have three LsL guitars. A Saticoy "Natasha", Bad Bone 2 "Pink", and this T-Bone. I also recently purchased a Topanga "Fate" after bonus time at work. I am loving my LsL guitars!

foolishfriend
June 13th, 2013, 07:20 PM
I own #23, "Celine." Made in 2006. I also have a few vintage teles -- an early '54 BT, a '55 and a '56 and have owned a Fleming MB CS. I have to say that the T-Bone holds its own very well -- everything stock.