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Song structure mental block - Wichita Lineman

gaddis
February 23rd, 2010, 05:59 PM
I got Band In a Box the other day and started fooling around with some simple chord entry to get used to using it. I tried doing Wichita Lineman but for some reason I'm having a mental block with the song structure. I figured out all the chord changes but I can't seem to divide them up into a regular structure. Like where does the intro end and the verse begin/end etc.

I could just enter the chords linearly and Band In a Box would probably figure out the structure, but it's bugging me that I can't do this myself. There's something sneaky going on in there, like an extra measure or something.

klasaine
February 23rd, 2010, 08:30 PM
It does have some odd bar numbered sections. 7 bar and 6 bar phrases.
This is a rough chord chart not in the original key but it may help(?) ...
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_z3ix5XYOn6s/SbSIBynk6wI/AAAAAAAABK8/qSBbgJIynuM/s512/Wichita%20LM%20chord%20chart.jpg

gaddis
February 23rd, 2010, 11:13 PM
Hmmm, interesting. Thanks much for the enlightenment. I guess the odd lengths kept throwing me.

Here's how I hear the chord changes, in the original key:





Intro

Fmaj7 Bb/C Fmaj7 Bb/C

/ / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / |



Verse & guitar solo (3x)

Bbmaj7 Am7 Bb/C Dm7 Am7

/ / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / |


G D

/ / / / | / / / / | / / / / |


C2 G/B Bb6

/ / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / |


D A7sus Bb C2

/ / / / | / / / / | / / / / | / / / / |


Bb C2

/ / / / | / / / / |



Ending



Bb C2 etc.

/ / / / | / / / / |

Big Tony
February 23rd, 2010, 11:51 PM
4qoymGCDYzU

/ Tony

kiwi_caster
February 24th, 2010, 05:31 AM
Different twist to this at

http://www.countrytabs.com/tablature/Glen_Campbell/Wichita_Lineman_2_Chord_12511/

You'll need to register to view

What a great song!!!!!!!!

slowpinky
February 24th, 2010, 06:21 AM
I do this tune in G - but with Jimmy Webb's changes (he does it in F on 'Ten Easy Pieces')

intro
||: C / / / | D(maj9) / / /|C/ / / |Dsus || C/ / / | G/B/ / / | Am7 / Dsus / | Em7 / Bm7 /| A(sus)/ A /|

E / Eus / | E / / /|| D / / /| / / / / | A/C#/ / / | AM/C / / /| G/D/ / /| Dsus/ / /||

| C/ / / | D(maj9) / / / |C/ / / |Dus/ / /||

This is an approximation of Jimmy's piano voicings which are beautifully cryptic in places(whether he meant to or not).

Probably my favourite tune ever - I do it "frisell' like with my trio but I just found Ben Monder doing it too...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZascMOE42Tw complete with the "da dah dah da dah" intro -which Jimmy doesnt do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlEpKhSHTyQ

not as clean as Glenn - but Jimmy wrote it.

slowpinky
February 26th, 2010, 07:55 PM
oops those last two bars of the verse should be E/B and A/B...sorry!

Papa Joe
February 26th, 2010, 08:40 PM
Gaddis,What style did you use.I started trying to lay it out in BIAB but never found the right style.

gaddis
February 26th, 2010, 08:59 PM
I'm still experimenting with the style choice, but the one I'm using now is Z4POPBAL, at 90 bpm. I also changed my Bb6 chord to Gm/Bb, per Klaisane's post. I think it sounds "more correcter".

gaddis
February 26th, 2010, 09:39 PM
Here's one of my favorite YouTube versions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U9UAG92lJo

Tim Bowen
February 26th, 2010, 11:20 PM
Blast from the past thread:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tab-tips-theory-technique/14575-wichita-lineman.html

gaddis
February 27th, 2010, 10:57 AM
Thanks for posting that Tim!

Tim Bowen
March 1st, 2010, 12:21 AM
You're welcome, gaddis! Hope you enjoy digging into the song. It's one of my faves.

Chris S.
March 1st, 2010, 02:10 AM
Blast from the past thread:

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tab-tips-theory-technique/14575-wichita-lineman.html
Wow, I'd completely forgotten about that. :oops: Long-term memory 'n' all. :roll::wink: When the Big Hacking Incident happened six (?) years ago, the #$%^@ hacker stole my account, so now all my old posts are labeled "Guest" -- and I can't search for 'em. :mad: Grumble, grumble... CS