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need2retire February 9th, 2010, 08:19 PM There's a single note in "World Keep on Turning" by Peter Green I just can't seem to get right. It's an "E" (2fret) note on the D string. He plays it many times. I got the right note (I think) with lots of vibes on it, but the part that doesn't sound right is the initial attack. His sounds springy or boingy whereas mine sounds like a note with lots of vibes. It's that snappy attack I can't get right.
I tried:
1) quick hamer-on into the E note ... but still not right
2) pluck the E note with my finger in a way that the string snap on the fretboard. That sounded better, but still not sure if it's correct.
The time stamps he played that note are:
0:52, 0:55, 0:58, 1:35
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxux5LdmjQU
Oh, more thing. Another part I can't figure out (can't hear too well) is between 3:36-3:38. Should be obvious to blues players ... can I get help here too?
gtroates February 10th, 2010, 04:10 AM He just seemed to be playing an E note on the D string second fret there, when they showed his pick playing it near the end he played it with an upstroke and a bit of a pick angle, it really isn't over vibratoed or anything major. Just try picking it with a little bit of force to get a strong note accent.
As for the next part you asked for, it is a three string lick that uses a sliding two fingers shape and an open high E string, he uses his fingers to play the upper strings:
the shapes are,
-----0-----0-------
-----3-----5----2--
-----4-----6------
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He uses the first shape again after using the second shape before ending with the C# note. I hope this made sense:grin:
need2retire February 10th, 2010, 10:58 PM He just seemed to be playing an E note on the D string second fret there, when they showed his pick playing it near the end he played it with an upstroke and a bit of a pick angle, it really isn't over vibratoed or anything major. Just try picking it with a little bit of force to get a strong note accent.
As for the next part you asked for, it is a three string lick that uses a sliding two fingers shape and an open high E string, he uses his fingers to play the upper strings:
the shapes are,
-----0-----0-------
-----3-----5----2--
-----4-----6------
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He uses the first shape again after using the second shape before ending with the C# note. I hope this made sense:grin:
thanks. I'll give it a try.
Wally February 11th, 2010, 01:29 PM HE is getting some 'sting' going on there on that one note, isn't he? I agree with gtroates that the secret is in the pick....and possibly the position on the string where he is picking. That note stands out a bit if the pick attacks closer to the bridge. HE is not getting a full-on harmonic thing going on, but there is a bit of that in that note. That is where the up stroke with the pick comes in. I can get that tonality and attack without a pick with a down stroke because the nail hits the string with just a hint of the flesh of the finger behind the nail. Use a bit more force...not much...than you are using for the D note prior to the E. BAck in my early teens, I discovered 'pinch' harmonics when I was using an upstroke pick manuver and accidentally got some flesh behind the pick coming at the string. Try an upstroke closer to the bridge a bit. You might find it. IF the fretting finger is not close to the fret, the note will not develop and stand out well, also.
need2retire February 12th, 2010, 05:00 PM Thanks for the advice. Picking upstroke sounds good too and have similar effect to PG. On the upstroke, I picked in an angle such that the string gets lifted upward ... it has similar tone with plucking with my finger such that the string get lifted upward and snap against the fretboard.
edit: ps ... what I tried sounds good ... but still not PG good :razz:
Wally February 12th, 2010, 05:16 PM "edit: ps ... what I tried sounds good ... but still not PG good"
need2retire, although I don't wholeheartedly subscribe to this theory, there is some truth
to the thought that tone is in the fingers. There is enough truth in it to make the observation that one would probably finds it hard to totally mimic another guitarist's tones. We mere mortals keep trying, though, eh?
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