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Holland Amps - gone but not forgotten

Silverface
December 23rd, 2009, 01:45 PM
Some of the forum oldtimers will remember my primary gig and studio amps - a '64 Vibroverb Custom (I had an original and when the hand-wired "reissues" came out there was no doubt - I HAD to get one); a '69 Pro Reverb; '72 Deluxe Reverb; '55 wide-panel Deluxe -

- and my go-to performance amp, a Holland Little Jimi. Made in the 90's before Mike Holland partnered (and was gobbled up and spit out by Heritage), it's a beautiful piece of workmanship. Flawless, neat, hand-wiring and solder joints, tube rectifier, 12XX7 preamp tubes (more on that later) and octal power tubes - literally ANY tube that has the same pinouts as a 6L6 (or EL34, as this one has ben slightly modified to take either).

I've run it with various rectifier tubes depending on how "tight" I need the sound to be - with a 5Y3 it ventures into tweed tonal territory, while with a GZ34 it's tight enough to stand up to a 100-watt Marshall JCM800 and be clearly heard, even at 30-35 watts.

As far as power tubes, I've run it with 6L6's, 5881's (REAL ones - 60's Tung Sols - not the so-called reissue new production "5881"'s), EL37's (I keep a pair of Mullards as studio tubes), EL34/6CA7's (usually Amperex or Sylvanias), KT88's (vintage Genelex) and other 6550-types....and even 6V6's for a softer tone/touch.

Swapping out tubes is simply is matter of rebiasing, which can b done using the handy external bias point jacks (although I use an Allesandro Bias/Matching Meter). If you want to be REAL anal you obviously check the plate voltage first - which I do whenever I switch rectifiers - but really the only thing to be careful of is using a tight rectifier with 6V6's or original 5881's which don't like high plate voltages (needless to say I don't go near crappy Russian 6V6's - some of which, in the early Sovtek days, were simply Russian servo tubes similar to 5881's; god ones became 5881's, weak ones were matched up and voila - a 6V6 matched set! Yech...).

Oddly, though, it's the only amp I have ever owned that sounded good with cheap, cheesy Sovtek wafer-base 5881's (yeah, those same servo tubes that are not audio tubes at all...at least by design). I'll sometimes use those on "it doesn't really matter" cover-band jobs to save wear and tear on my good tubes.

It's a very unique amp - reverb (which I rarely use except for surf-band jobs, preferring cascading analog delays instead) with both intensity and dwell, with controls a little oddly set - the volume control is the *second* knob, with one of the reverb knobs to the left of it. This is one of the very specific design points regarding lead dress, as are the position of tube sockets, transformers, and even the reverb jacks - nothing but power and rectifier tubes are in a straight line on the chassis - other things are positioned or angled for very specific reasons, and a low noise floor results (sometimes I forget it's on, even when the volume is dimed). Tone circuitry provides bass, mid and treble controls, plus a "sweep" control. Many players were misinformed by rumor and thought (as did I until I opened it up) the sweep was part of the reverb (the going story is that it's like Fender's outboard reverb unit). The reverb design is much like the Fender outboard unit (and unlike the reverb in the combos) in that it works on the full frequency range - reverb in the combos only works on the highs, which is why a hair too much sounds tinny on Fender combos.

The third control (at least what I THOUGHT was the third "reverb" control) is labeled "sweep", and is a variable negative feedback control. Once you learn the nuances of this knob (which change depending on volume level, up to around 6 or so) you can vary between "more BF" or "more tweed" tone-wise. It's subtle, but once you "get it" it's amazing.

The model I have is the 2x10 - it originally came with two Holland-branded Eminence ceramic 10's; very good speakers with this amp, but I've switched to Weber P10Q-types - a little "looser" but I rarely need high volume/tight bass unless I'm trying lamely to play clean pedal steel with it - then I throw a pair of Californias in (and my steel playing is never squeaky-clean, so I don't think I've changed speakers in 4 or 5 years).

Now the interesting...and quirky...stuff - tone.

There seem to be some variables among Holland Jimis, as slight design changes were made, different speaker configurations used (1x12 is the most common, but I think I've seen one 2x12 and a 1x15), but all of them, when set up in a fairly standard way with a 5AR4 or GZ34 rectifier, good 6L6's, a 12AX7 driver and preamp tube (or a 5751 for a hair less gain) and power tubes biased at around 37ma provide similar tone - and I've been amazed at the number of players who have never found the entire range, as they never turn an amp up above "5" or so on the volume control (note - it's pretty much a "law of physics" - use the smallest amp you can for a particular venue, and crank it - with a good amp you can "drive" it via right-hand dynamics and your guitar's volume control, often negating the need for a tone-altering overdrive pedal. I've kept amps from 10-100 watts on hand for yeas, and almost always use the one I can crank up plus keep a backup on hand just in case something goes awry, a lesson learned the hard way. But, for example, a Twin Reverb turned up to "2 1/2" sounds cold, brittle, and plain awful, while a Deluxe Reverb turned up to 6 or so will pump the same volume and sound FAR better).

The Jimi at low-to-medium volume sounds very Fendery, with a slight mix of Blackface tone and the mids of a good tweed. It's one of the few amps (I used to have a part-time tech business and have played more than a thousand amps over the decades) that DOES sound decent at lower volume, with a nice, clean, fat jazz tone. Get it up to about 5 or 6 and it sounds like a cranked Fender.

Above 6 or 7, the rules of the universe no longer apply. It completely changes character, going into a Vox-like saturation - almost Dumble-like in the buttery smooth quality, but with a hair more aggressiveness (think Larry Carlton in a really bad mood! ;-) ). With one of my Velvet-Hammer equipped Teles I can literally use the second-coil switch as an overdrive control, combining it with the guitar's volume and tone controls to change the character of the saturation (mostly varying the mids). You can stab a note with your volume rolled off, bring it up and it sings forever. And you get all this WITHOUT an increase in volume - above 6 or 7 (depending on tubes/bias) it simply increases in sustain, aggressiveness and saturation but not volume. Almost like having 3 amps at your disposal.

It's a shame Holland more or less evaporated. He's thought about restarting - but bless him, Mike is a genius amp designer but not the greatest businessman (many, including me, had early amps in the shop for QC problems, and sometimes it took months to get them back). That rep has kept them from becoming high-priced collector's items, and having played not only the Jimi but a bunch of other models I just don't think you can go wrong buying one - any competent tech can handle service, even without a schematic (and there are NO schematics floating around that I'm aware of).

I've seen Jimi's for $700 on eBay, and I swear the next time I have that much cash loose and one shows up I'll grab it asap. It, my '55 Deluxe and my '69 Pro Reverb are 3 amps that if stolen would cause instant cardiac arrest!

Tim Armstrong
December 23rd, 2009, 02:00 PM
I was brewing beer for a brewpub in Virginia Beach while Holland was still there, and jammed with a couple of guys who worked for him (pretty sure I met him briefly). I answered an ad for a band forming, and went over with my Peavey Classic 30 to this music store that was also the Holland shop. Needless to say, I didn't ever fire up MY amp!

Great amps, but like so many small outfits, they never made enough money to survive...

Tim

ThermionicScott
December 23rd, 2009, 02:44 PM
That's quite the glowing review, Silverface! Have you traced out the circuit to figure out how it can change character so effectively? Seems like an amp that can shine with mediocre tubes *must* have been designed well. :cool:

- Scott

dB
December 26th, 2009, 11:09 PM
Great review! I've always wanted to get my hands on a Gibb Droll, sounds like my kind of amp.

Rick Towne
January 23rd, 2010, 11:59 PM
I've had two LJ's over the years and agree with Silver's descriptions. 2x10 models also show up from time to time.

mgreene
January 27th, 2010, 08:21 PM
Howdy fellers! Nice article Silverface - I just happened to surf by it today and signed up to reply.

I am the owner of 3 Holland amps. I have had a Gibb Droll for about 6 years. About a month ago, I happened to score a Bishop and a Lil Jimmy from the same guy.

The Gibb sounds great and like the reviews say it sounds like a "better" sounding bassman with some early Marshall thrown in - but it is LOUD. Sounds equally as good with single coils and humbuckers - especially when biased for type of sound you are going for. Like Silverface, I use real Tung Sol 50's 5881s for a twangy strat sound and RCA 6L6 for the most lushious 335 humbucker sound I have ever heard. Unfortunately, this amp has always had some issues with random crackling sounds that I first thought was the presence pot - I replaced it a while back but the amp is on my bench again right now. Recent experience leads me to believe that the actual culprit may be a loose pot/switch or a cold solder joint.

To the Bishop and Jimmy: have you ever had an amp that you couldn't make sound bad - just different? Well, these are them. I was always fascinated, reading about Holland's add on, reverb amp that feeds its own dedicated speaker. This Bishop has it. It sounds cool and 3D - but somehow not like I imagined. I will take it apart and poke around - maybe there are controls inside or it needs new tubes. The amp itself leans towards a bright Tweed (but cleaner) type of sound, not ice-pick buy nice and trebly like Steve Cropper. I saw where someone described it as a low power tweed Twin clone. I dont know if this is what Holland was going for but it is an apt description. If anybody knows what his intent was with this amp, I'd be interested in hearing about it. This is one of those amps that makes you play cool stuff and not want to put your guitar down.

This Jimi is a 35 watt, 2X10 model - described by the seller as a prototype/demo. It has vibrato. The funny thing is/was is that it sounded completely uninteresting when I got it. Very flat and dull. OK - I says, cheap tubes and probably biased wrong. But nope - it was biased perfectly. So, I took out the chassis (hard work) and poked around. THe vibrato circuit is built like high-end hi-fi gear with discrete resistor switching for the level control. But some how, Holland out smarted himself with this circuit. It made "woof-woof-woof" sound through the speakers even with nothing plugged in. I kind of digested what I saw for a couple of days and it hit me: "what is the difference between your amp and all the supposedly good sounding Jimi's?" That's right, the stupid vibrato. I unsoldered the vib circuit connection to the preamp tube and OH MY! What a beauty sound. Like Silverface says, the laws of amp physics dont apply to this amp. Can you imagine a amp - that with normal settings - can make VERY respectable tele twang on the bridge PU but can also sound like an L5 playing jazz standards on the neck PU, just by rolling off the tone a little bit? NOT weak imitation sounds, but the REAL thing. It shouldnt be possible. After all the mediocre amps you and I have owned and played, I have to say Mike Holland really has a special talent for amp design. And as above, it sounds GREAT with the stock Sovteks - I am almost aftaid to try better toobs:lol:

Mike

PS: Silverface, did you ever try a 3amp rectifier on the Jimi, like a 5U4?