Laney Amplifier Association

There's a VC30 club here.

How about a Laney amp association in general?

I'll start.

Laney Cub 10.

Who's next? (Great album by the way) :lol:

I'm in. Grabbed this last Sunday.
AOR Pro-Tube Lead 50
Pair of Ruby Tesla E34Ls

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Nice!! What a monster. Sound good?

Well, thats subjective but yes I think so.
These are described as a JCM800 at 1/4 of the price. I'll go along with that.

here's a pair. Both '71 Klipps, one is 60w, the other a 100w. Partridge transformers, except the 100W has a changed OT. These guys have a different sound from my other amps. I also have a 11 yr old LC50 combo that has been nice for jazz and clean needs.

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I got a 60 watt Linebacker.
Used to use a Fender Roc Pro 1000 and the Laney is so much better.
I wouldn't go back

I have an old Laney Linebacker 2x12" at my parents.

I'd love to get my paws on a head here in Ukraine but I don't think that will happen....

I'm in. Grabbed this last Sunday.
AOR Pro-Tube Lead 50
Pair of Ruby Tesla E34Ls

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I had one of those back in the mid '80s to early '90s. Uber-reliable. It was on the road a lot and I think I replaced two preamp tubes in it the whole time. I even had a mismatched cab, but mine was a Randall. Bought the whole thing second hand from Rolls Music in Falls Church for $500.00.

I have an old Laney Linebacker 2x12" at my parents.

I'd love to get my paws on a head here in Ukraine but I don't think that will happen....

2x12?
That's gotta be a 100 watt.
I'd love one of those

2x12?
That's gotta be a 100 watt.
I'd love one of those

100 or 120 watts, I forget which.

Any idea where to score one? Pawnshops here don't carry much in the way of guitars.

Laney LC15. It's a little monster. I love it. Swapping the pre-amp tubes for a little more clean headroom.

Another LC15 here.Mine is the latest version [LC15-110] with chassis mounted tubes,master tone control,spring reverb,adjustable effects loop [bypass/+0dB/-10dB] and Celestion G10N-40 speaker.Gives both great portability and killer tones.



Ed

100 or 120 watts, I forget which.

Any idea where to score one? Pawnshops here don't carry much in the way of guitars.

Got mine off ebay, might be worth a look

VH100R is my beast ;)
I spent around half a year going around england to different music shops looking for that amp that had my perfect tone. I tried Marshall, Fender, Vox, Orange, Peavey, Randall (which i liked but they were unreliable), Mesa/Boogie (which i loved but couldnt offord), Sound City, ENGL, Blackstar and Krank.
And eventualy in a small music shop in greater london i played my VH100R and fell in love. It made me instantly forget about the tripple refractor i had played (but not been able to offord) just 2 weeks before. Its clean channel was crystle clear, but i fell in love when i started adding gain. I soon found myself in crunch heaven, classic rock was comming from my tele just like it was the 70s. But i was soled on the overdrive. When i saw it had 2 sets of gain on the drive channel i nearly fainted. Im a gain head and once i put both gains to 10 (20 gain ftw) it blew my mind. My tele was singing like it had been classicly trained. :)

One issue i have is that it gives ALOT of feedback, even with a noise gate and lo noise pickups, but ill find a way around it.

Ill put pics up once i get a new cam

keep rocking _\m/

Just picked up an older Laney LC30 1x12 combo yesterday...intitial impressions are that this is one NICE amp. The master volume on the overdrive channel has a bit of a "hair trigger" when adjusting. (probably something easy to solve).

How about a Laney LH50 and GS212IE Cab that I have

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Laney Cub 10. I use it for most gigs now. Light, portable, sounds excellent with a 1 x 12 extension, and still pretty darn good with the internal 10. Put a Weber in and some NOS tubes and it's great, nice cleans and a roaring 6V6 overdrive when cranked. Pre-amp OD available at any volume, sounds nice on the edge of break-up. It does need a reverb pedal in front though.

Two Laney amps here

Laney Lionheart L5T-115 combo - does everything excellent 5W parlour amp

Laney (Richter Bass) RB4 160W 1x15 Bass combo - not sure about this one, well made, somewhat sterile hi-fi response (easily sorted with eq tweak and/or an FX box), but it does take up rather a lot of house room when I don't use it so much. I'm in two minds whether to sell it.

Also Laney GS212IE 2x12 ext cab



p.s. old thread linky - http://www.tdpri.com/forum/bass-place/148551-***-laney-bass-amp-user-club-***.html#post3969855

VC15

Lovely amp, tone so warm you could cuddle it.

Reverb's just gone, though. If I hit the tank it reverberates, so there must be something else. Any ideas?

If you hit the tank, it is supposed to reverberate.

Do you mean you are not getting reverb sound?

Are you using the footswitch? - try without and crank the reverb way up, this eliminates the relay.

I've got a Cub 15W head, onboard Ruby reverb tank.. it's sort of a spare amp for taking out to smaller jams and stuff... easy to cart...:smile:

It's very quiet at idle hardly a humm... clean little unit with the >1W input for bedroom use... though it can get quite loud dialled up...:cool:

LC 30 MKII here, been modded a bit though

I got a Laney VC50.
it's a Beast!:grin:

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LC15-R, Just about get away with having it at the right volume at home for startof break up, real nice small tube amp...

Picked up an RB-4 from a kid a couple years back. Need to change the xfmr out, he brought it with him from England.

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Laney VC15-110 :smile:.
Bought it used, but I think it's from 2008 or 2009, based on the real reverb tank and a 10" Jensen C10Q speaker.
Replaced the tubes with Harma Retro.

Great amp - especially for the money.

I got this RBW300 Bass amp today.... are they any good?..:lol:.. it says made in the UK on back,,,:wink:

I gave my mates teenage son a 100 for it..:roll:.. he was going to take it to the pawn shop as he had no use for it... Cool kid, I'm not sure if the pawn shop would give him that.....

. I'm not sure what it's worth?... it sounds a bit thin with a guitar plugged in unless the gain is right up with full V.... I'll put a bass through it later....

15" speaker... tilt back cab.... it might be good to put another amp chassis in?... or the local school band might be able to use it....:wink:

another one for the club...:smile:

I've been bitten by the Laney bug. I have both a AOR 30R and 50 watt AOR both series 2
and are from the 80's. The cabs on these combos are much to heavy so I'm putting the chassis in a new cab and pairing that with 1965A Marshall 4x10 cab. Best sound of any amp I own. It seems these old amps are going for about $300. Check out the photos of new cab. I was after a more portable rig that still delivers a big sound.

Wow, this amp club is so small that I didn't even know it existed. Been a happy user of the VC-15 (Limited edition white) for a while now. I also recently got a CUB-8 (5W-8" speaker) for practicing, I'll try to get some pics later.

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Just ordered the 5 watt Lionheart combo, should have it Friday.

I gigged the 20w head through a small Marshall 4x12** cab, and it was maybe the best tone I'd ever gotten. I'm gambling that the 5w combo will be able to hold up for small gigs, that it'll give enough stage volume for a 'not obnoxiously loud' 4-piece rock band (2 guits, bass, drums). Anyone have experience with this amp in this situation? If it can't hang, I'll send back and get either the 20w combo or the 20w head and run it into a Mesa Transatlantic single 12" cab.

By the way, I owned a Mesa 5:50 combo, and even on 5w, that thing was painfully loud, so I'm predicting the Lionheart will hold its own.

I absolutely LOVE the Lionheart series. Beautiful tone, and very classy looking too. I like the fact they're made in UK.

**EDIT: it was a Marshall 4x10 cabinet, not sure of the model name/number.

I hope the 5W lives up to your expectations. It is reputed to sound better than the 20W version. I have had mine a few years now. I have gigged it but only in a small public room, with a jazz band, horns, drums etc. It did quite well.

I think the L5T may be a wee bit louder than the Mesa on "5W", because it has a better case & speaker. Its original TAD valves didn't last long and there are better replacements.

However I think for a quiet rock band you do need a "15W". My olde 17W WEM Dominator is not a lot louder than the L5T, but whereas a Fender BJr can't hack it with a drummer, the WEM has much more in reserve.

A point to note, that at 46-lb, the L5T is just as big and heavy as a 30W 1x12 combo.

If you need more power than the L5T then do look at the VC30-112, basically the same amp in push-pull form.

Hey Colo.
I have played and gigged with the LH20 head and I agree with you, fantastic amps.
if you really enjoyed the 20 watt I would suggest you get that....
The 5 watt may be a little light for your needs...but if you can swap easily..go for it.

UK made amps, great tone easy to dial in, these amps seem to be real"sleepers" in the market.
They certainly give the more famous amps a hiding IMO
And they look good too.

I've got to say that playing anything through a Marshall 4x12 does flatter the "tone", they are awesome cabs.

The L5T will push an ex cab and you gain some +6dB with each extra driver, best kept on 8ohm load (full secondary OT winding) for best sound.

I've got to say that playing anything through a Marshall 4x12 does flatter the "tone", they are awesome cabs.

The L5T will push an ex cab and you gain some +6dB with each extra driver, best kept on 8ohm load (full secondary OT winding) for best sound.

Yep, I've played several 15w amps into a 1960A cab and all sounded AWESOME!

I'm excited to see if this 5w Lionheart can hang in a band situation. I'm thinking that since I don't need/want a lot of clean headroom it just might work. But if not, I'll go back to the 20w version, I know from experience that one had much room to spare. And I loved the tone.

There's no doubt in my mind that Mesa on 5 watts would have hung just fine in a 4-piece band situation, that thing was stupid loud... but it did have a 90 watt speaker, so I'm sure that probably makes a difference. We'll see.

Yep, I've played several 15w amps into a 1960A cab and all sounded AWESOME!

I'm excited to see if this 5w Lionheart can hang in a band situation. I'm thinking that since I don't need/want a lot of clean headroom it just might work. But if not, I'll go back to the 20w version, I know from experience that one had much room to spare. And I loved the tone.

There's no doubt in my mind that Mesa on 5 watts would have hung just fine in a 4-piece band situation, that thing was stupid loud... but it did have a 90 watt speaker, so I'm sure that probably makes a difference. We'll see.

The L5T uses a single EL84. Now that is really a "5.7 watt" valve that can be pushed to 7 watts quite easily: it punches above its weight. I had it A/B with a BJr and the BJr went back to the shop: nice amp but the L5T did everything it could and more. But the L5T is really a parlour amp, rock band rehearsal no problem but for gig I'd pick one of my slightly more powerful amps out: depends on your band. The L5T has a truly massive OT for a 5W amp, as it should do, most SE amps skimp on the OT and this is possibly the problem with the L20T.

The Mesa 5:50 quite rightly has a 90W speaker, it needs it. The drawback with high power speakers is they are voiced for use at high volume, with enhanced treble emphasis, they don't always sit well at low volume. Maximum output volume of 5W is half that of 50W, so unless you routinely crank that 50W right up, you won't notice much difference, except on headroom.

The L5T is fitted with the Heritage 55Hz G12H-30 which is a 30W speaker but has an extra low-end which helps parlour level. The heavy H magnet makes it punchy with good dynamics (greater field strength and flux density): they take about 2 years to bed in. It is also 100dB efficiency and the combo box is the right size for good projection. Going by its price, it is probably Celestion's second best speaker.

I've had an LC15 (no reverb) for two or three years which I used for small gigs, I last played it in September to about 250 people in a marquee where it was not quite up to it. For smaller gigs I'm using a VHT Special 6 Ultra, really happy with it for pubs and smaller halls, more than enough volume for our material. Last month I picked up an early VC30-112 for the larger gigs. The guy was smoking when I collected it, but I did not notice the smell. I got it out of the car and put it straight into the garage it smells so bad. Having sat in the boot of the car for 20 minutes, the car still smells of tobacco smoke a month on! It is not going in the house smelling as it does, and I'd rather not put it in the car. So any ideas on cleaning it up would be appreciated. I've been pleased with what I have heard the couple of times I have used it in the garage, but the waether is not suitaed to playing for any length of time. The LC15 now lives 200 miles away at my Dad's, as he gets older I need to spend more time with him so it is handy to have some gear there, and the wife does not notice quite how much gear I have.

The more I'm hearing you guys, it's making me think it will be a stretch... I noticed my order hasn't shipped yet and closed today. I'm going to call them first thing in the morning (26th) to see if I can change the order to the 20w combo. But if not, I'll give this a go. Either way, I'm gonna have a sweet amp here on Thursday or Friday!

Jefrs, what do you mean by this:

The L5T has a truly massive OT for a 5W amp, as it should do, most SE amps skimp on the OT and this is possibly the problem with the L20T.

?? What is the 'problem' with the L20T? I absolutely loved the head version through that Marshall 4x10 cab. Are you aware of any shortcomings of it as a combo??

The more I'm hearing you guys, it's making me think it will be a stretch... I noticed my order hasn't shipped yet and closed today. I'm going to call them first thing in the morning (26th) to see if I can change the order to the 20w combo. But if not, I'll give this a go. Either way, I'm gonna have a sweet amp here on Thursday or Friday!

Jefrs, what do you mean by this:

The L5T has a truly massive OT for a 5W amp, as it should do, most SE amps skimp on the OT and this is possibly the problem with the L20T.

?? What is the 'problem' with the L20T? I absolutely loved the head version through that Marshall 4x10 cab. Are you aware of any shortcomings of it as a combo??

The L5T has the Skot OT from the LC30/VC30. Laney have had to change their OT since Skot (Swindon) went titsup.

It is a very large OT for a 5W amp.
There are good technical reasons that a SE amp must have a very large OT, it's not about power. The "problem" as I understand it with the L20T/H is it needs an OT physically four times bigger than the VC30, and as they get bigger they get more expensive, heavier and unobtainable. There was another poster on here who was very disappointed with the L20T. Had a VC- and was mightily impressed with the L5T. Got the L20T and found they didn't like the sound in comparison to VC-series, it was not a L5T with more power. Plus the L20T had particle board where the L5T has ply.
Imo if you like the L20T, you will love the L5T.
Imo if you love the L5T but need more volume then you want a similar 1x12 combo, and that's the VC30-112. It turns down. It would be dead easy to convert the L5T into a 4xEL84 p-p 30 watt, it's got all the right ironmongery and a spare half bottle for the PI, but you really wouldn't want to do that to it.

For a hall of 250 people I would take my 30 watt 2x12 amp, that can handle maybe up to audience of 1000. It can handle less. Overkill.
For a small hall of 100 or so bodies I might use my 17W WEM. Is it pretty loud. Unlike the LC15 it has a 12-in and a big box. The bigger speaker adds about +6dB, the big box projects well: it was designed as a stage amp rather than a practice box.
The L5T I have used in a small public room of say 50 capacity. For a noisy pub I would grab a bigger amp, maybe my dinky Vox AD30VT, 30W 1x10. For a smaller speaker you need more power. If you have a 10-in speaker, you need to double the watts to get up to the volume of a 12-in.

To double the volume on the same speaker(s) you need ten (10) times the power.
To step up from 8-in to 10-in, 10-in to 12-in, 12-in to 15-in, you need to double the power. Want to double the power without doubling the power? - add another speaker on the ext cab, add +6dB.
A small combo box can easily rob you of -6dB and have poor projection, the BJr is a classic example of let's get this wrong.

It all depends on what and where you are playing.
More bodies out there deadens the sound: more watts; more speakers.
Noisy drummer: same again, you have to get louder to balance the mix. Rest of band too, it has to be dialled in to balance the mix.

Best to get some ears to work the room whilst you're playing, you can get a situation where the front and back can hear you, but not the middle, or the rhythm guitar has got lost (again) because the lead has stomped the loud pedal (again).

Give each instrument/voice their own place in the stage mix, don't tread on each other, especially if playing "quietly" or limited volume e.g. wedding where guests actually want to talk and/or dance like an uncle. Go too loud and the mix bleeds into each other. Go too loud on stage and all I can hear is white noise - I have no idea what is happening and can't play a thing like that.

Was too late to change the order. I think I will be fine with the L5T. I could always set it up another cabinet if I needed to. Can't wait to get it!

...you may be right! It's been 3-4 years since I played that L20 head thru Marshall cab... but I'm pretty sure I'm liking the tone of this little 5watter even more.

Taking over to a friend's house tomorrow, he has an excellent jam room complete with drums, bass rig and several amps. We'll give it a run-through and see how it goes. I have to say though--I think at the very least, this amp would cut it fine with a band as long as it sat atop a good 1x12 or 2x12 enclosure. Personally, I think it would cut it fine as is, but it'll get a good workout tomorrow night with some MONSTER players who are light years beyond me. It'll be fun to sit back and listen to it sing.

Man, what a nice amp!

Have to say the only thing I find even *mildly* disappointing is the reverb. It's ok, but not as nice as Fender reverb. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong. I also like the fact it's nearly dead quiet, even with the gain cranked with single coils.

This is one seriously nice amp!

And here it is...

And how's it sound?

Did it keep up the the band ?

...you may be right! It's been 3-4 years since I played that L20 head thru Marshall cab... but I'm pretty sure I'm liking the tone of this little 5watter even more.

Taking over to a friend's house tomorrow, he has an excellent jam room complete with drums, bass rig and several amps. We'll give it a run-through and see how it goes. I have to say though--I think at the very least, this amp would cut it fine with a band as long as it sat atop a good 1x12 or 2x12 enclosure. Personally, I think it would cut it fine as is, but it'll get a good workout tomorrow night with some MONSTER players who are light years beyond me. It'll be fun to sit back and listen to it sing.

Man, what a nice amp!

Have to say the only thing I find even *mildly* disappointing is the reverb. It's ok, but not as nice as Fender reverb. Other than that, I can find nothing wrong. I also like the fact it's nearly dead quiet, even with the gain cranked with single coils.

This is one seriously nice amp!

It is a "British" voiced reverb. Same tank as Fender use but doesn't wash out when you wind it up. It is intended to be used on stage. When reverb is used in a hall, it has to be turned down or it sounds all mushy, gets lost in the mix.
The louder you go the less reverb you want, unless you want surf and then you need tremolo+delay (VT-1 + Red Repeat)

It is the one thing I have modified on my L5T: changed a single resistor on the reverb return which increases the range of frequencies returned. It made a little difference but is still not as wet as a Fender. I think it uses the same op-amps as the BJr but a different arrangement. The components are surface mount on the underside of the circuit board, very easy too go wrong here so advise leaving well alone.

If you must have a washy reverb, there are some excellent pedals, I use a RV-5 to add hall ambience, make the room sound bigger. The spring sounds like a spring not a long tunnel. I sometimes use both together, sparingly.

It is a "British" voiced reverb. Same tank as Fender use but doesn't wash out when you wind it up. It is intended to be used on stage. When reverb is used in a hall, it has to be turned down or it sounds all mushy, gets lost in the mix.

If you must have a washy reverb, there are some excellent pedals, I use a RV-5 to add hall ambience, make the room sound bigger. The spring sounds like a spring not a long tunnel. I sometimes use both together, sparingly.

You're right, back when I used to gig, I usually couldn't tell if I had reverb on or off--'natural' reverb sort of took over.

Naw, it's fine as is. I usually like just a smidge anyway.

I love the tone of this little amp--can't wait to try it out tonight with some of my friends.

And how's it sound?

Did it keep up the the band ?

Kept up fine and sounded great! Not a lot of clean headroom, fortunately I'm a 'pretty much always dirty tone' kind of player anyway. Cut through well, sounded great. A guy there had an amp he built (also a single EL84) that we ran through a Marshall 1960 4x12-- that thing sounded cool as heck! The 'sweet cleans' award goes to the Fender Deluxe Reverb, man did that thing sound good with a little 'verb and vibrato. We didn't even get around to playing Kevin's Bogner head through his Genz-Benz 2x12 cab. Was cool playing through, listening to, talking about, and comparing the tones of of the various amps. Everyone loved the Laney, the warm overdriven tone was a hit with everyone.

Some great players there, lots of beer, good food and good times. We had a blast! (the get-together was a surprise 50th birthday party for me... I had no idea, my wife and our friends/family did a good job of keeping it a secret)

Happy birthday, nice way to spend it.

Glad the laney went well, i guess the lack of clean head room is to be expected in a 5 watt amp.
What this does confirm about the lionheart range is that they certainly punch above their weight.
Enjoy it and check back in post honeymoon period.

Glad you enjoyed.

Were you using the Clean or the Drive channel?

I find the Clean channel stays pretty much clean all the way to the top, starts getting a bit of hair around 8, doesn't get much louder going up to 10.
With a band I would expect a certain lack of headroom, but adequate.
I have the Laney GS112IE 2x12 ext cab, deeper than a Marshall cab, only Celestion Seventy80 but decent sound and surprisingly light and cheap.
http://www.laney.co.uk/products/product_details/54

The Gain on the Drive channel is a dual-gang pot, Laney dark art. One half is a vol into the valve but the other half alters the cathode resistance to make things fatter.
Understanding how things are working helps me use it: this is a fat control up at the top end.

That "post-PI" tone control is a reversed "top-cut". You have half a PI driving the output bottle through it. Don't be afraid to turn that Tone control to 11, the last notches on it take you into Vox/TB territory. It also has a cathode-follower BMT tone control system like a Vox.

There is a "pad" system on the input, it does mean you cannot use both holes simultaneously but they do have different gains, it monkeys with the cathode bias on V1. Do play with the "other" input.

My OEM TAD valves did not last long (my L5T is seldom off): there are better available, and may give you more clean headroom, especially on the EL84.

Hey Jefrs, I played on both channels. The clean headroom comment was re: the clean channel. You bring a good point about the two inputs--haven't experimented with that. While we were at my friend's house, we were using primarily humbucker-equipped guitars, I currently am playing a single coil guitar (DeArmond M75T) at home. So some experimentation is in order.

And yes, I've been playing with the Tone control either maxed or pretty close to it.

You know where I have found the best tone on this amp? On the Drive channel, but with the Gain on only about 9 or 10:00, and the Volume max'd. Holy cow that is a sweet sound! Just slightly overdriven and punchy as hell. Very 'chimey.'

I like it better than the clean channel's Volume max'd out.

Just bought a clean Laney TT20 combo off Ebay to join my LC15-110...Wondering if the amps will sound much different.



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The TT20 is 3xECC83 2xEL84, so its another twin EL84 p-p.

But they change hands for ~£300, which is more than a new LC15.

The LC15 is more of a practice amp and, good grief, I see Tesco's supermarket is selling them with the weekly groceries.

The TT20 is 3xECC83 2xEL84, so its another twin EL84 p-p.

But they change hands for ~£300, which is more than a new LC15.

The LC15 is more of a practice amp and, good grief, I see Tesco's supermarket is selling them with the weekly groceries.

Thanks for the input,jefrs.I'm most likely going to swap out the stock H&H speaker for one of the many Celestions I have laying about.At the moment,I'm leaning toward either the G12H-30 or V12-60.


Ed

Thanks for the input,jefrs.I'm most likely going to swap out the stock H&H speaker for one of the many Celestions I have laying about.At the moment,I'm leaning toward either the G12H-30 or V12-60.


Ed

Start with the G12H-30 :mrgreen:
It is not a Greenback but Jimi used them.
The G12M-25 Greenback can be a bit woofy at low volume but are clear and sweet cranked up. The G12H-30 has more immediate punch for bigger and better bass response, so possibly better for lower volume of a "15W" amp. I think it also has a stiffer cone.

The Vintage30 is for closed back ext cabs, and higher volume than the TT20 can manage. They sound great in a cranked up 50W Marshall. It's not the power handling, they are voiced for loud!
When we play loud, we need a different frequency response, less bass - and why we have a "boost" button on the hi-fi.

Many Celestions? Have fun with that. Use ears ...
Please report findings?

Good call on the G12H-30.I actually had the speaker in a 2 x EL84 Bedrock 600 series combo and it did indeed sound superb.Yes,I agree that the G12-80 and G12K-100 that I also have would not match quite as well with the modest power output of the TT20.Thanks again,jefrs!



Ed

My OEM TAD valves did not last long (my L5T is seldom off): there are better available, and may give you more clean headroom, especially on the EL84.

Jefrs there's no need to re-bias, right? Just plug and play?

Any tube source recommendations? (are JJs ok?)

I just picked up a minty fresh Laney LC-50 Combo for $250 via craigslist. It's been modded with a Mesa Boogie Black Shadow. I'm very impressed so far. It's got very usable cleans and dirt. I'll be swapping the speaker soon with a WGS G12A to smooth it up and add some more chime and sparkle.

I used to tour with a GH100L 100 Watt over a 4-12 cab. That amp ruled, never broke down on me, never needed anything. That one got stolen. Grrr!
I found a solid state Laney GC-50 combo at Guitar Center for $65 a while ago, not really a great amp, but it works fine for stereo with Fender amps, or for stuff requiring deep dark tone. nice deep growl to it and the speaker is nearly indestructable. Really good for dark jazz type cleans, and with a Tonebender or Fuzz face in front, Electric Wizard type stuff.:twisted:

I get to join !
A friend gave me a head that was very marshall looking with four EL34's and four 12AX7's the faceplates had been removed both front and back and so I had to research to find what I had.
Turns out to be a Laney Pro Tube 100 watt 6 knob head with pull boost on the EQ knobs.
It took a bit of work but I got it up and running and Dang !!! It sure has an awesome classic rock sound ! I put a TS-9 and my Cmatmods signa drive in front of it and plugged in my Tele with a little extra heat in the pickups and sweet sustain for days !
Cool amp and so far all I have is time in it !
Might need some new pots or at least a few shots of Deoxit !
Just need an SG and a school boy costume LOL !!!:twisted:

cub 10 owner here
very happy with it

A bit late to the group....I have a laney linebacker(modelling amp) lr20 paired with a red squier affinity tele and it's a killer combo.I'm not bragging at all.....I've been asked many times if I have changed the pickups or used a tube amp for recording.
My teacher/mentor has a laney lc15r paired with a MIA Fender strat.We often switch amps to jam.
The best things about the lr20 is the ease of settings,the modelling (which IMO is the perfect little version of every laney amp) and the last is the tone.I chose this over the beloved pathfinders,mustangs etc. for the above reasons.While I liked the vox clean and the fender clean,I really loved the vc channel clean and the crystal channel clean on the laney.Laneys and fenders really pair well.

My Laney LC50 mkI modded with a Mesa Black Shadow. I decided to keep the BS.

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I really like those shiny mirror face plates Laney uses. Before I even heard it,knew it was going to be special. Found out that my solid state Laney's clean channel is pretty damn good for pedal steel. I may invest in a brighter speaker. Currently has the 12 inch H&H, anybody recommend something that can keep it clean and bright?

Hi there,

I am a Laney fan and own a VC30 and a VC50, my only tube amps.
I placed a bid on a local LH20H recently and had a play (sounds gorgeous) but the guy decided not to sell, bummer. He had a Matchless and an AC30HW and I could definately tell he took very good care of his gear, the Laney had even never left the house. Think he just couldn't let go.
Currently looking into a trade for a LC15-110, no money involved.
If one pops up locally 2nd hand, I will look into getting a white vc15 becase of the looks.

My Latest purchase I bought this for the smaller clubs and OMG is it loud upgrades include 2x JJ 6V6S and 4x12AT7 Russian made,
it came with a Fane speaker originally and this has a GT Celestion Vintage 30 instead, f,ing killer amp, one question I have if I wanted to add another 1x 12 cabinet it only has the one 8 ohm out how would you do it?

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