Swiftpicx
November 6th, 2009, 01:04 AM
Hello to all
I would like to try phasing one of the pup's in my tele with a push / pull.
There are some wiring diagrams for a 3 way switch, but I can't find one for a 4 way.
Has anyone any info on this, good ~ bad idea ? is there a diagram available to try this with a 4 way.
Thanks for a reply
Steve
Bearer
November 6th, 2009, 02:59 AM
out of phase works best when either the two pickups are wired in series, or they are Different pickup types (single coil and a paf for instance). That's because the out of phase passes the difference between the pickups into the amp, which usually sounds pretty weak and nasly. Wiring a tele in series with phase reversal works great because the 4-way mod makes up for the lost output. I don't think you would need a special diagram for a 4 way. just think about it like this:
neck pup -> push pull to reverse phase -> 4 way switch -> vol -> tone -> out put
bridge pup -----------------------------/
Swiftpicx
November 6th, 2009, 01:49 PM
Thanks for the reply Bearer
I believe that the 4 way offers a series & parallel option, & I would like to try it with phase rev. also. I'm just starting to wire the cont. plate, & my thought's are wondering :idea:.
A digram would sure help, for when I'm having those "Senior Moments" with the iron in my hand. :confused:
I need to go over some of the other diag. & make sense of it all.
Steve
cc9cii
November 6th, 2009, 03:33 PM
Fender Baja does 4 way + phase reversal, although it uses S-1 rather than a push pull.
Which order do you want your 4 way and which pot is push-pull? I'll draw something up if you like.
Deaf Eddie
November 6th, 2009, 03:52 PM
http://www.deaf-eddie.net/tdpri-drawings/4-way-phase.jpg
Dont't forget to do the unground/reground (http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/unground-tele.pdf) thang for the neck pup's metal cover...
Swiftpicx
November 6th, 2009, 04:25 PM
Thank You for the reply CC
I would guess that the normal order of the 4 way would be fine. an audio or linear P/P, I really don't know which would be best. I have placed the 4 way in the rear, still keeping the vol & tone where they normaly are
I do like your cocked wah diagram, & was hoping to add it to the mix. I considered a switch for the phasing, but the P/P would be better.
Shame of it all, is I finally found 2 close matching CTS pots ( 264 & 265K A/B) & now I want to change things around again :lol: !
I guess I'll be needing a larger parts box, if I don't start soldering soon !!!
Thanks Again !
Steve
Swiftpicx
November 6th, 2009, 04:27 PM
Thank You Def Eddie !!!
Steve