pdxjoel
November 2nd, 2009, 03:52 PM
I've scoured both this forum, Deaf Eddie's site and Fender.com trying to find the right wiring diagram, and I'm still a little stumped. I'm modding my Nashville with a Oak-Grigsby 5-way switch (http://www.acmeguitarworks.com/Switch_Oak-Grigsby_5-Way_Si_P402C10.cfm) to get the Nashville B-Bender style pickup combos: N/NM/NB/MB/B.
I'd like to add a push-pull tone pot to switch between series & parallel in the N/B combo only (middle position). In the other positions, the push-pull would be basically out of the loop and have no effect. Deaf Eddies push-pull mod (http://www.deaf-eddie.net/drawings/tele-series.jpg) gets pretty close and would be an acceptable solution. Anyone out there map it to the OG 5-way?
Thanks,
Joel
cc9cii
November 2nd, 2009, 04:28 PM
Any reason why you don't want neck+middle or bridge+middle in series as well? You can adapt this one, note it was drawn for a strat and therefore you'd need to make changes to shields on tele pickups as well as ensuring that the 2 wafer super switch fits into a tele control cavity (does not fit in mine without mods).
If you only want neck+bridge in series you won't need an S-1, a push-pull will do.
http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/ab289/cc9cii/Strat-5way-SSS-nb-v2.jpg
Deaf Eddie
November 2nd, 2009, 05:56 PM
My series-only p/p idea won't quite work for a Nashville Tele. The third pup in the mix just makes a mess of it... So, the issue is, with the hardware you've specified, once you pull for series, it's ALSO going to affect two of the other four throws.
However, it COULD be done just as you wanted with a full dual-wafer SuperSwitch and a p/p - you need the extra poles on the 5-way to make it happen. I'll draw that one up...
http://deaf-eddie.net/tdpri-drawings/nashville-bn-series-pp.jpg
The push/pull only affects throw #3, where it takes the bridge pup's hot off of the 5-way and routes the neck pup's negative lead to the bridge pup's hot lead for series in that throw only.
Don't forget to do the unground/reground (http://deaf-eddie.net/drawings/unground-tele.pdf)thang to the neck pup's metal cover...
sjtalon
November 2nd, 2009, 06:01 PM
Hey Eddie.
Not to steal this thread but did you read this one:
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/just-pickups/181352-fender-classic-player-jazzmaster-pickups.html
pdxjoel
November 2nd, 2009, 07:18 PM
Now that it's all diagrammed out (thanks, Eddie!) I can see why you'd need the 4-pole superswitch to get it done. Now I need to decide whether it's worth exchanging the switch and modding the body cavity to get it done...
Thanks, all for the info. Great forum here.
Casual_Reader
November 3rd, 2009, 10:24 AM
is it a hijack if the issue's been resolved?
anyway, seeing cc9cii's diagram above got me wondering if anyone cared to check my work on this:
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h73/CAsual_Reader/challenge.jpg
I started it Sunday as a brain teaser after a poster (minion) was looking to include a mid into a 5 way by means of a kill switch. I've yet to map out cc9cii's diagram to see how it should be done, but it seems (to me at least) that this should work... though I may have a blind spot.
As far as brain teasers go, I highly recommend the super switch / S1 switch as a starting point.
pdf included for zooming in clearly.
cc9cii
November 3rd, 2009, 09:55 PM
Looks good. :smile:
EDIT: while I love the idea of having lots of options, I could never get used to having a middle pickup - somehow it always gets in the way. That 3 pickups in series idea is interesting, I wonder what it sounds like?
Casual_Reader
November 4th, 2009, 11:04 AM
Looks good.
thanks for checking it.
perhaps a stealth nashville (nashvegas) with a hot wound mid under the guard out of the way of the pickin' hand?
I notice that strat players wear the 2 and 4 positions out, but the mid position... not so much. Maybe it's just me.
the bmn series? I honestly wouldn't know. Probably louder and darker... the kids would crank it up and have all kinds of fun playing sloppy.... but with only 2 visible pots and one switch, it'd still look like a standard tele.
...or maybe I missed the point of wanting to "bling" it out with lots of switches.
edit to add that I did map out your 5 way... similar use of the poles. It took a few hours of frustration to get it through my thick skull that feeding 2 of them with 2 of the three hot leads just wasn't going to work.