Vocalist Live 2

I could only find 1 post on this pedal and that was back in Feb of '08. Anybody using this and could give some reviews on it?
Jack

If you do not have one yet, then go for the VL 4.
It has a smlll learning curve but at the end of the day, you will be glad you did.
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I use one for solo acoustic stuff.
Love it.

I got the VL-2 last year when they first came out. I really like it, although it does have a slight learning curve. I needed to re-learn how to play and sing into it. Once you learn its quirks, it's a great tool. I gig with it all the time, and ot sounds great.

The VL-4 is great for solo work, but in a band situation it tends to get a little "cluttered" sounding. I prefer the VL-2 for bands.

A couple of tips. First, you need to make sure your playing is clean. The VL doesn't like sloppy playing. Next, make sure the gain is adjusted for the mic you're using. That will allow the best tracking. Too little gain and it won't track so well. Too much and it will distort. Other than that, it's pretty easy to use, but give yourself a little time with it. I gigged mine the day I got it. That was not so smart. It took about 3 gigs until I really felt comfortable with it. Now I won't gig without it.

I got the VL-2 last year when they first came out. I really like it, although it does have a slight learning curve. I needed to re-learn how to play and sing into it. Once you learn its quirks, it's a great tool. I gig with it all the time, and ot sounds great.

The VL-4 is great for solo work, but in a band situation it tends to get a little "cluttered" sounding. I prefer the VL-2 for bands.

A couple of tips. First, you need to make sure your playing is clean. The VL doesn't like sloppy playing. Next, make sure the gain is adjusted for the mic you're using. That will allow the best tracking. Too little gain and it won't track so well. Too much and it will distort. Other than that, it's pretty easy to use, but give yourself a little time with it. I gigged mine the day I got it. That was not so smart. It took about 3 gigs until I really felt comfortable with it. Now I won't gig without it.

Thanks for the advice and direction ProTone. Good stuff! I'm still jockeying to get the best deal I can on one. I'll let everyone know how it plays out. Thanks to everyone, so far, with all the input.
Jack

I'd be interested to hear what the "learning curve" references specifically are talking about.

You're looking at one dumb dude here and I think it is as easy as pie.

Step 1: Tune your guitar to the device.
Step 2: Select if you want high or low harmony (or unison).
Step 3: Play and sing.

Really, that's all there is.

It's a nifty and easy little device.

Our sainger uses the VL4, and he really likes it. One question regarding the pedal: Does it have to be run through one of the guitar player's amps to get it "tuned" to the correct pitch/key, etc?

Well I got one on Ebay for $205.00. I think that's about as cheap as I was going to find, unless I was willing to hassel with the auctions. Thanks again, and I'll let you know when I get it.
Jack

I'd be interested to hear what the "learning curve" references specifically are talking about.

You're looking at one dumb dude here and I think it is as easy as pie.

Step 1: Tune your guitar to the device.
Step 2: Select if you want high or low harmony (or unison).
Step 3: Play and sing.

Really, that's all there is.

It's a nifty and easy little device.

The learning curve isn't about how to use the pedal - that part's easy. The learning curve involves how to use the pedal in a band setting and make it sound natural. That's a little harder than plugging in and playing. On certain songs I had to change what I was playing (slightly) in order to make the VL voice the harmonies correctly. Also, selecting the right harmony parts took a little trial and error. You also need to be aware of how you're singing into it. It tracks (and sounds) much better if you sing on pitch. If you're slightly off you can sometimes get a minor 3rd harmony instead of a major 3rd, etc.

Step 2 above is a little misleading. You don't have to select eigher high or low. You can choose one of each as well, which is what I do.

Like I said, after about 3 gigs I had it dialed in perfectly. Take a little time with it and you'll be really impressed.

I'd be interested to hear what the "learning curve" references specifically are talking about.

You're looking at one dumb dude here and I think it is as easy as pie.

Step 1: Tune your guitar to the device.
Step 2: Select if you want high or low harmony (or unison).
Step 3: Play and sing.

Really, that's all there is.

It's a nifty and easy little device.
50 preset voicings from Elvis to CSNY,Eagles 3part,Eagles 7bridges, 5 blind boys,Bob (Dylan),etc.
5 DN 3up,3rd down,5th up, female harmonies etc.

I normally use a chorus pedal that I turn on and leave on throughout my performance. Does anyone know if I will be able to use the chorus pedal in conjunction with the vocalist live 2?

I do not know about the VL2.
The VL4 has on board chorus for guitar as well as EQ.
If I remember correctly, I think it will also "color" the vocals as well.

I just didn't have 400 dollars to spend on the 4. I was fortunate to get new 2 for 205!

I normally use a chorus pedal that I turn on and leave on throughout my performance. Does anyone know if I will be able to use the chorus pedal in conjunction with the vocalist live 2?

Yes, pedals are no problem, but run the pedals after the VL-2. The VL likes a dry signal, so plug your guitar directly into the VL, then out into the pedals.

Yes, pedals are no problem, but run the pedals after the VL-2. The VL likes a dry signal, so plug your guitar directly into the VL, then out into the pedals.

Protone,
You are da man! That was going to be my next question. Whether or not to use it before or after VL-2. Thanks.
Jack

Yes, pedals are no problem, but run the pedals after the VL-2. The VL likes a dry signal, so plug your guitar directly into the VL, then out into the pedals.

Use the guitar through feature or else you will be adding chorus to your vocals.

Our sainger uses the VL4, and he really likes it. One question regarding the pedal: Does it have to be run through one of the guitar player's amps to get it "tuned" to the correct pitch/key, etc?

Sorry Vince. I didn't see your question earlier. The VL needs a pitch source in order to create the harmonies - either a guitar of a keyboard. You plug the instrument directly into the VL, then take that signal out to an amp. The instrument output passes only the guitar/keys signal (no vocals), so it doesn't affect the sound of the instrument. It will actually even read backing tracks.

The VL "reads" chords very well, even "complex" chords like a b5, aug, dim, etc.

Use the guitar through feature or else you will be adding chorus to your vocals.

That's only on the VL-4. The VL-2 doesn't have chorus.

I'm sorry.
USE the guitar pass through to supply your pedals or else you will be adding effects to your vocals.
And yes the VL2 has this feature.


* 2-part vocal harmony with no programming — just sing, play and let Vocalist Live 2’s groundbreaking MusIQ™ technology do the rest
* Selectable voicing: unison, 3rd, 5th-above or below your lead vocal
* Vocal enhancement effects matrix with separate
Compressor, Reverb and EQ/Enhance controls
* Separate Harmony and Effects pedals
* On-board guitar tuner
* XLR mic /line input with level adjustment, low-noise preamp and 48V phantom power
* ¼" guitar input, ¼" guitar pass-through and Guitar Ground Lift switch
* Stereo ¼" line out and mono XLR line out
* Road-rugged, all-metal chassis
* Power supply included

Sorry Hobbster, I thought you meant the VL-2 had chorus (it has reverb but no chorus). Yes, you do need to use the guitar thru output to send your guitar to the pedals/amp. There are no vocals present on the guitar thru output.

If you're going to use this with electric guitar, remember to check the ground lift switch. I usually leave the ground lifted on mine, but sometimes it gets bumped when I'm plugging it in. If you get a pretty loud hum, lift the ground and it will go away. I freaked the first time it happend to me.

Sorry Hobbster, I thought you meant the VL-2 had chorus (it has reverb but no chorus). Yes, you do need to use the guitar thru output to send your guitar to the pedals/amp. There are no vocals present on the guitar thru output.

If you're going to use this with electric guitar, remember to check the ground lift switch. I usually leave the ground lifted on mine, but sometimes it gets bumped when I'm plugging it in. If you get a pretty loud hum, lift the ground and it will go away. I freaked the first time it happend to me.

Do you have the VL2 or 4?

Do you have the VL2 or 4?

I have the VL-2

I'd be interested to hear what the "learning curve" references specifically are talking about.



50 preset voicings from Elvis to CSNY,Eagles 3part,Eagles 7bridges, 5 blind boys,Bob (Dylan),etc.
5 DN 3up,3rd down,5th up, female harmonies etc.


That's the VL4. The 'Two' doesn't have those.

Like I said - easy as pie.

My VL 2 is due in on Wednesday Novembe 4. Looking at the back of this on the website, I am seeing a line in for mic and guitar, but I'm only seeing mono and stereo line outs. I run my guitar and mic through separate amplifiers. So I would need 2 line outs, one for my guitar amp and one for the vocal amp. I don't see that option on the back of the VL 2. Any advice or direction would be appreciated.
Jack

Guitar in--->Guitar Through---->pedals ---> amp
XLR (L) (mono) ---> mixer/amp
or L/R outs to mixer/amp if stereo.
or
ftp://ftp.digitech.com/pub/PDFs/Manuals/Vocalist_LIVE2/VL2Manua

My box arrived, I hooked it up, set it up, and I'm truly amazed! Just the technology of being able to harmonize is one thing, but the effects and programming capabilities are awesome! A great investment for my music ministry/business. Thanks to all for your advice direction. God bless.
Jack

Cool. Glad to hear it. Enjoy!