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Tone King Mid Bite Knop

iorr
October 20th, 2009, 03:11 PM
Is there someone out there who knows how this works?
Maybe a chance to get a schematic?

The unique and effective Mid-Bite control makes the Lead Channel a lot more versatile than you would expect from a channel with only 3 controls. The Mid-Bite control is an exclusive Tone King design feature which does a lot more than simply adjust the midrange level - it completely transforms the overdrive character.

With Mid-Bite fully off, the Lead Channel reacts much like a tweed deluxe. When played clean, the woody resonance of the cabinet, liveliness of the 5AR4 tube rectifer, and the expressive dynamic response of the cathode-biased output stage work together to give you the raw midrange, silky top end, and loose feel of a genuine well-worn tweed deluxe - perfect for honky tonk or blues rhythm playing with a tele.

As you dig in harder, you'll feel the sweet, round top end begin to develop a stinging bite. Crank it up into the distortion zone, and the tone gets even fatter, thicker, and looser. Think tweed deluxe meets vintage Supro. Compression from the cathode-biased output stage softens the pick attack as single notes and chords swell and sustain in endlessly evolving shades of thick, meaty grind.

As you turn up the Mid-Bite control, a midrange peak appears while the bottom end is simultaneously tightened up, which transforms the tone into more of an English-style crunch. The amp develops a tighter feel as single notes really start to sing, and chords become chunky with rich midrange overtones, a lot like an early Marshall.

It looks like the new Kendrick amp "So Lo 7" has the same/kind of pot.

Voiced to sound exactly like a Blackface Super Reverb amp but at a fraction of the volume and about a 1/3 of the weight, we have carried this to a new level by adding a "Texas Tea" control which can layer a Tweed tone on top of the default blackface voicing. Add just a little "Texas Tea" and you get that two-amp, Stevie Ray tone. Turn it all the way down and you have pure blackface tone. Turn it up and the tweed voice overshadows the blackface voice and you have pure tweed tone.

Ben Harmless
October 20th, 2009, 03:35 PM
As you turn up the Mid-Bite control, a midrange peak appears while the bottom end is simultaneously tightened up, which transforms the tone into more of an English-style crunch. The amp develops a tighter feel as single notes really start to sing, and chords become chunky with rich midrange overtones, a lot like an early Marshall.


This sounds like maybe a filtered negative feedback control, but then I always think more complicated things that necessary. Maybe just a high pass on an early gain stage. I dunno. I'm still pretty amateur, but I like playing detective.

celeste
October 20th, 2009, 06:44 PM
I vote for making the slope resistor of a typical TMB stack a pot.

iorr
October 20th, 2009, 06:52 PM
Hi celeste,
I`ll give this one a chance and will response.

Karsten

celeste
October 20th, 2009, 06:55 PM
Hi celeste,
I`ll give this one a chance and will response.

Karsten

So Now I am confused. My answer was a bit obtuse, so perhaps you are confused as well. I was trying to say My vote is they made the slope resistor a pot, so they can change from mid scoop of a Fender to a mid hump of a Marshall stack

getbent
October 20th, 2009, 07:52 PM
why not just call or email Mark Bartel. He is an awesome guy and could explain it in detail.

mail@toneking.com

Phone 410-327-6530

Mail

Tone King Amplifier Company, Inc.
Box 38 Bldg 45-2A
4401 Eastern Avenue
Baltimore, MD 21224

celeste
October 20th, 2009, 08:01 PM
why not just call or email Mark Bartel. He is an awesome guy and could explain it in detail.

mail@toneking.com

Phone 410-327-6530

Mail

Tone King Amplifier Company, Inc.
Box 38 Bldg 45-2A
4401 Eastern Avenue
Baltimore, MD 21224

Because it is so much more fun guessing. Before you had to bring logic into it, we could have gone with ailien intervention, or paranormal activity

getbent
October 20th, 2009, 08:17 PM
oh, sorry! you're right.
I have a tone king imperial and it has the knob you are asking about....

if that helps...