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valiant July 2nd, 2009, 02:50 PM Gordon Smith Guitars are handmade to custom order in Manchester England
and are the longest running guitar maker in continuous production in the UK.
Gordon Smith Guitars make handbuilt guitars that feature their hand wound
pickups and were the first to offer humbuckers with a coil tap as standard on a production guitar and also feature a brass nut.
Gordon Smith Guitars are said to be the English Gibson but do make Fender inspired guitars.
Incredibly Gordon Smith Guitars are at the same price point as far east
imported copies and have an honest quality directed at the working musician.
John Smith the owner says that they don't make furniture and likens the guitars to the indestructable zippo lighter.
The guitars a favourite with punk bands are still played today by Pete Shelley of The Buzzcocks.
musicalmartin July 2nd, 2009, 02:58 PM I have played a couple of them and they are fine guitars .They have been going years .My own choice would be the LP Junior type model .A quality job .
Klaus Kemmerling July 2nd, 2009, 03:05 PM Hello,
I have a GS 2 that I bought new back in the early 1980s. The specs are similar to a SG (mahogany neck with rosewood fingerboard, slim mahogany body (formes like a Les Paul with symetrical double cutaways), wraparound tailpiece, 2 humbuckers with coil split.
It was my main guitar for many years. Nowadays I play Telecasters most of the time, but the Gordon-Smith is still used occasionally.
Greetings, Klaus
kiwi blue July 2nd, 2009, 06:51 PM I have a lefty SG2 that I bought last year. It's made from Brazilian cedar. Apparently they no longer use mahogany. Slim neck, plays very well. Nice and resonant body. But I hated the HBs. Too much compressed clickiness to the attack. Drove me nuts. I've now put in Tonerider Rebel 90s (HB sized single coils) and it sounds great. I gig with it a lot.
The NZ agent is now out of business, but at the time it was retailing for NZ$2,200. Due to a stuff up I got it for $1,500, which is half the cost of a Gibson SG standard here. The agent had gone ahead and ordered the guitar from the factory thinking I was going to buy it, but I was only considering it. I did not actually place an order and he forgot to cancel it, so he offered it to me sight unseen at cost price of $1,500.
Jeri July 18th, 2009, 09:48 PM My GS1.. Bought s/h about 8 yrs ago for £125 .. . Was already pretty beat up then..
Still going strong
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk62/hiitsbsj/7-3.jpg
valiant July 19th, 2009, 02:42 PM That Guitar has certainly got attitude.Be prepared to be very afraid.
The quintessential English punk guitar.Nice one geezer!
Jimclarke100 September 27th, 2009, 05:30 PM I've got a GS1.5 12 string, bought new about 12 years ago costing about £450. Way better than the Yamaha offering which was about the only other 12 on the market at that time (apart from of course the Rikky 360 which was beyond my budget) The GS survived several years of gigging but now unfortunately resides under the bed most of the time as SWMBO will only put up with a small section of the collection cluttering up the living room...
DarnWeight October 1st, 2009, 04:25 PM Here's my GS 1.5.
Bought it secondhand maybe 6 or 7 years ago now (paid about £220, I think), and someone had replaced the wraparound with a Hipshot Baby Grand. It looked a bit fancy pants on the GS, and didn't do anything for the guitar's sustain. So, finally, the other week I got around to replacing the Hipshot with a heavy duty intonable wrap around, and fitted a cheap-n-cheerful unlicensed Bigsby unit. All that extra mass has really helped the GS come alive. I've been playing it non-stop ever since.
It's got a little bit of a Gretsch Corvette look about it now...which I'm liking a lot!
Ben Harmless October 1st, 2009, 06:28 PM I can't claim to be a member, but I'd like to. I heard about the Gordon Smith guitars from the band Leatherface, who won't play anything else. The one time I got to try one out (a G2) it was a great axe, but the neck was quite thin, and not for me. I always figured that if I finally took the plunge, I'd see if they could stick a larger neck on mine. I don't know how flexible they are about that sort of thing.
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Flaneur May 25th, 2010, 09:37 PM I have a matt black, 20 year-old GS 1.5, picked up locally a couple of years ago. Wonderfully easy to play all the way up the neck, with a double cutaway thin mahogany body, that resonates like crazy. Plenty of versatile tone from the split humbucker bridge pickup and single in the neck.
Punky- but not cheap or disposable. A keeper.
Flaneur May 25th, 2010, 09:44 PM I should add that I've seen plenty for sale that had obviously seen some action. They are not as fragile as they first appear and are true players' guitars- unsung and inexpensive. Like a more delicate and versatile LP junior. Highly recommended!
valiant May 27th, 2010, 09:00 AM Flaneur....like to username....did it come to you while walking round Paris slowly.
Gordon Smith Guitars are working guitars and as tough as old boots....basic like a Zippo lighter and not considered as a furniture.....however the finish can be thin and age.......then again a thinskin is prized as is a relic finish.
Some have said that the finish on the guitars is not the best but that is on the cheap entry models and they have their own aesthetic....a kinda "wabi sabi"......although the high end guitars are fine looking instruments that can cost over £700 the basic and simple natural finish GS1/GS1.5/GS2 (£450/£500/£550) = the best value around
and with a set of Bare Knuckle pickups....P90 as an option....and perhaps a Bigsby you
get some axe....handmade for the price of a far east copy.
Kinda like the GS2 double cut with the body contours (like an English SG) and the natural headstock looks great with the natural body....sort of "woody" like a Guild "CountryBoy".
They are great value second hand but to have Mr Smith custom build one is a dream.
Flaneur May 28th, 2010, 06:34 AM Hi Valiant:-)
Didn't you know Edinbugh is the Paris of the north? Or is it Glasgow? lol!
The finish on my Smith is still in good nick- just the odd harmless ding and some polishing on the neck. I would love a single cut GS with P90s to go with it- that would cover most non-Tele options for me:-)
I've heard them compared with Korean PRS soapbar models- but they seem a lot less glossy and corporate than that.... loads more intangibles- mojo, if you like.
Flaneur May 9th, 2011, 08:55 PM I never played a Junior LP or SG that i prefer to this one......
A.B.Negative June 10th, 2011, 02:53 PM I've got a new project.
A.B.Negative June 10th, 2011, 04:36 PM I've got enough scratchplate material to do something like this, a bit like the Joan Jett Melody Maker. There's some rough routing at the ends of the bridge pickup rout to cover. The previous owner must have had a bigger than normal pickup in it.
steevc August 15th, 2011, 07:32 AM I've got a natural finish GS2 I bought new over 20 years ago. It's not been gigged, but gets played a lot and is in pretty good condition. Still love it.
A.B.Negative August 18th, 2011, 05:07 PM Ever wondered what Gordon did next? I saw this on Ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gordy-Redshift-Custom-collectors-item-Gordon-Smith-/180712415170?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a134c9fc2
I've no connection to the seller, just thought you might like to see an interesting guitar.
(need to get my Gordon-Smith project finished!)
goddardo December 26th, 2011, 08:05 AM I'm eyeballing a 1983 GS1, but too far away to try.
Can anyone tell me what the neck thickness is like on these.
I tried an early ultra slim one once & it was a bit too slim for me.
Also were woods, build quality better back then ?
Jimclarke100 December 27th, 2011, 03:34 PM The first time I tried a GS was back in about '84 in a music shop in Plymouth, so similar era to what you are looking at. It seemed to me that it had the smoothest, fastest neck I'd ever played (however at that time my own guitar was a Hohner strat copy so that MAY have something to do with that impression).
Having said that it must have been good as it left an impression that I still have to this day and was the reason for me buying my GS1.5 12 string (brand new and built to order in the mid 90s). fwiw, that does not have a super slim neck of course being a 12 it is a little wider than standard, but not hugely so - the pairs are very close together.
Jimclarke100 December 31st, 2011, 07:07 AM GS 1.5 / 12 :cool:
MBolanlovechild February 25th, 2012, 03:40 PM Guess i'm bringing us, albeit a little late, into 2012.
Just bought this 1991 GS1.5, a little worn but has the 'relic-look' to it.
http://www.oldschoolguitars.co.uk/thumb.php?i=gs1501.JPG&grid&vlarge
Came with a 'Jeff Beck' SD humbucker at the bridge and the original stock single-coil at the neck plus a wilkinson tremolo (which I'll probably hard-tail at some point).
http://www.oldschoolguitars.co.uk/thumb.php?i=gs1504.JPG&grid&vlarge
380 quid which isn't bad considering the upgrades.
One thing i'm unsure of is what size case to get.. i'm guessing anything that fits a Les Paul will fit the Gs1.5?
cheers
bettyseldest December 19th, 2012, 05:38 PM Bought my GS1 in '94. Have since added another 3 to the collection, will try to add pictures over the weekend.
bettyseldest January 20th, 2013, 06:12 PM A bit late, but here are three of my Gordon Smith's will add a picture of the GS1 later.
A.B.Negative January 21st, 2013, 02:45 AM A bit late, but here are three of my Gordon Smith's will add a picture of the GS1 later.
I used to have a Graf(?) like yours on the right but mine was blue and had a single coil neck pickup. One of those "I should have kept it" guitars. Yours is the only other one I've seen with a Stratty headstock, they usually have a pointy 3-a-side design.
Little_Dave January 21st, 2013, 09:56 AM Hi, Just registered on here, nice to see a group talking about GS guitars.. have played them for years.. I used to have a GS1.5 which I sold on.. I currently have 2 which I will be keeping.. My main guitar is a GS2 Deluxe, but I also have a Gypsy 3 which is fairly rare.. Similar to a GS2 but with a larger scratch plate and strat type pick up selector, humbucker at the bridge and single coils middle and front. Will try and get some pics up on here :-)
bettyseldest January 21st, 2013, 05:05 PM I used to have a Graf(?) like yours on the right but mine was blue and had a single coil neck pickup. One of those "I should have kept it" guitars. Yours is the only other one I've seen with a Stratty headstock, they usually have a pointy 3-a-side design.
I have only ever seen one other Graf with the Strat style headstock, as you say most of them are pointy. I'm guessing that mine is an early model, the serial number would imply it was made in about 1989/90. All the other Grafs I have seen (which sadly is not that many) have been advertised as later models. The humbuckers take it into SG territory, whilst the coil splits bring us back towards the Tele tone. A really nice guitar to play, just a shame they did not prove popular enough and discontinued the model, but that's guitarists for you.
bettyseldest January 29th, 2013, 04:46 PM Here is a Graf with the usual headstock, and only about 7 miles away from me, I had not intende to buy any more guitars this year but ...........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gordon-Smith-Graf-Deluxe-electric-guitar-/221182357340?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item337f7eef5c
A.B.Negative January 30th, 2013, 02:48 AM Here is a Graf with the usual headstock, and only about 7 miles away from me, I had not intende to buy any more guitars this year but ...........
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gordon-Smith-Graf-Deluxe-electric-guitar-/221182357340?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item337f7eef5c
Nice!
The_JinJ February 2nd, 2013, 07:33 AM Some nice guitars in here :)
I own two GS's, a GS 2 60 in natural satin finish, built March 2003. That is built from Brazilian Cedar with a Rosewood fingerboard. Bought this 2008 (?)
A Graf in Wine Red with maple flame veneer, built July 1993, bought either 93 or 94.
Both good guitars in their own way :)
A.B.Negative February 2nd, 2013, 07:53 AM http://www.tdpri.com/forum/attachments/guitar-owners-clubs/164489d1359808380-gordon-smith-guitars-society-img_20130201_143511-jpg
Just after saying the 6-a-side Graf is rare, up pops another!
A.B.Negative February 2nd, 2013, 08:00 AM I never did post photos of my resurrected GS1 (now sold - it was a great guitar but the herd needed to be thinned out).
The_JinJ February 2nd, 2013, 08:07 AM Just after saying the 6-a-side Graf is rare, up pops another!
Did GS have some words from Fender regarding the headstock or did they just want their own style one? Personally I'm not the biggest fan of the beak style.
A.B.Negative February 2nd, 2013, 12:18 PM Did GS have some words from Fender regarding the headstock or did they just want their own style one? Personally I'm not the biggest fan of the beak style.
AFAIK they still have Fenderish headstocks on their S and T guitars.
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