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Telenator Musical Electronics

Telenator
June 25th, 2009, 10:57 PM
Well, we did it!

All this business about Wide Range Humbuckers has pushed me into business and the filing of a patent.

Telenator now offers a new mod for the Fender Wide Range Humbucker which uses our patent pending threaded magnet technology!

This modification as described in the Pickups Forum retails for $75 and sounds absolutely incredible!

Look for a complete line of new pickups from Telenator Musical Electronics in the near future.

littlericky
June 25th, 2009, 11:39 PM
Incredible news. Will you be selling the magnets and allow users to do the mod themselves?

Telenator
June 25th, 2009, 11:48 PM
Incredible news. Will you be selling the magnets and allow users to do the mod themselves?

I had considered selling the magnets seperately but the mod is not as simple as it seems.

When you remove the bar magnet, it leaves a void under the pickup that must be filled with something the exact size and thickness. While that's not too daunting a task for some people, there's more to this.

Because the magnets are not as maliable as steel, the alignment of the studs is critical so they don't hit the cover when the pickup is re-assemble.

The last thing I want to see is a bunch of people who are upset because their pickup has gone microphonic after they attempted the mod themselves. Or someone broke a magnet because they were raising it and forced it not realising they hit the underside of the cover.

Then there's the issue of that waxed cotton wadding wrapped around the coils. We have to trim the bit from the center, between the two coils because the re-issue pickups are often so poorly assembled that the wax pushes the bobbins apart and the magnet screws don't line up with the holes in the cover.

As this is a brand new mod, we're keeping it in-house to ensure the quality of it.

mellecaster
June 26th, 2009, 12:09 AM
I had considered selling the magnets seperately but the mod is not as simple as it seems.





As this is a brand new mod, we're keeping it in-house to ensure the quality of it.

I would say that is a Wise move...and Welcome fellow Vendor !

littlericky
June 27th, 2009, 12:11 AM
Fair enough, I completely understand. Can't wait to hear the clips.

franchelB
June 28th, 2009, 12:28 PM
WOW, that's great...

camocowboy777
June 29th, 2009, 10:25 PM
Outstanding! I cant wait to hear more.

I hope this means that we will be able to keep our stock Fender pickup cover?

Telenator
June 30th, 2009, 10:54 AM
Outstanding! I cant wait to hear more.

I hope this means that we will be able to keep our stock Fender pickup cover?

Yes, the pickup is completely re-built and looks identical to the original.

This is a great mod for anyone who is building a project guitar and wants shiny new chrome covers on the WRHB's.

Telenator
June 30th, 2009, 05:29 PM
We launched our new website today!!!

Sound clips for the new "Alnico II magnet mod" for the re-issue WRHB are on the site.

podboy3
June 30th, 2009, 08:11 PM
I was waiting for this to happen, I figured with all that work that went into Wide Range rebuilds that you offered that something had to come of it.

Congrats.

podboy3
June 30th, 2009, 08:26 PM
Just checked out the website and I'm liking it, I am also liking those sound clips of the new mod.

There is one problem...... You make the stock reissue pups sound too dang good.

The Alnico Two Mod make 'em sound fantastic and it is cool to see you offer the Alnico Five with the magnets that can be adjusted.

Carzee
June 30th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Generally I don't like flash based websites. Thats all I'll say 'bout that.

I'm interested in the T90 and the WRHB but I can't hear the clips. Houston we have a problem. The soundclip player page for the humbucker starts to stream the clip file then stops after 2-3secs.

TDPRI
July 1st, 2009, 12:23 AM
We launched our new website today!!!

Sound clips for the new "Alnico II magnet mod" for the re-issue WRHB are on the site.

Just a heads up, you've got problems with the list of pickup types on the right hand side of the page in Firefox and IE 7. A number of them are either partially or completely off the page on the right hand side and I have to use the scroll bar to go to them. The "stage" is way too wide.

(I'm using a 24" monitor at 1920 px wide. So, it's not because I'm using a low resolution or a small monitor.)

I've attached a screen shot.

Telenator
July 1st, 2009, 12:41 AM
I'm interested in the T90 and the WRHB but I can't hear the clips. Houston we have a problem. The soundclip player page for the humbucker starts to stream the clip file then stops after 2-3secs.

The sound clips on the site only pertain to the alnico II WRHB Mod. All the other pickups shown on the sight are a view of what's coming. We're working on clips and such. I knew this would be a lot of work getting the pickups together but man, this website stuff is just as tough for a guy who hasn't done it before.

Telenator
July 1st, 2009, 12:42 AM
Just a heads up, you've got problems with the list of pickup types on the right hand side of the page in Firefox and IE 7. A number of them are either partially or completely off the page on the right hand side and I have to use the scroll bar to go to them. The "stage" is way too wide.

(I'm using a 24" monitor at 1920 px wide. So, it's not because I'm using a low resolution or a small monitor.)

I've attached a screen shot.

Thanks Paul. It seems that Mac users are having this problem too. I don't know why one would be different than the other but that's what I'm finding. I'll look into it.

UPDATE::

Is it fixed? I tried publishing the site in a different size.

sean79
July 1st, 2009, 01:52 PM
Is it fixed? I tried publishing the site in a different size.
The word "Pickups" in the "T-Type Guitar Pickups" link is off the screen for me. Using FireFox and have a "regular" sized monitor (if that matters). Everything else is there.

Good luck with the new venture.

Telenator
July 1st, 2009, 06:06 PM
The word "Pickups" in the "T-Type Guitar Pickups" link is off the screen for me. Using FireFox and have a "regular" sized monitor (if that matters). Everything else is there.

Good luck with the new venture.

I have it set to the smallest size now.

Are you guys on Macs? It seems that Mac users are the only one's with the problem.

There is a scroll bar on the bottom of the screen so you can access all the buttons.

Perhaps it's the way your screen resolution is set? Then again, all the other websites you guys visit seem to be working OK, right?

sean79
July 1st, 2009, 07:09 PM
I was on a PC. Now, at home, I'm on a PC with a wide-screen monitor... you've got TONS of room. It really wasn't too bad earlier - I knew what that "t-type" one was. And, like you said, the scroll bar works.

Are you winding these pickups yourself?

Telenator
July 2nd, 2009, 07:30 AM
Thanks for the info sean79.

Yes, we're hand winding everything.

Joe-Bob
July 7th, 2009, 09:48 PM
What do the P-90s sound like compared to say...Duncan vintage alnico? (P-90-1, IIRC)

Telenator
July 8th, 2009, 09:30 AM
Our PT-90s are "tighter and brighter" than standard P90's. While these do retain the traditional P90 tone, they surround that classic midrange hump with a tighter, more focused low end and nice biting highs.

As we're doing more testing with these threaded magnet pickups we're finding that they all posses this "vocal" quality where it's easy to coax blooming sustaining notes as well as very articulate, spanky sounds out of them.

The PT90's will most likely be next in line for sound clips and release. I have a set in my Carved Top Tele and I'm really diggin the sound. Very bluesy.

I think we're going to find a large market among jazz and blues players who play hollow body guitars. The tigher low end and clarity of our pickups make them an ideal choice for hollow body guitars.

Joe-Bob
July 8th, 2009, 10:45 PM
Well, I was wondering about one for my PRS SE One. While the stock pup sounds ok, it's nowhere near as high output as my Duncan vintage in my LP Jr. Spl., which I really like.

Telenator
July 9th, 2009, 09:01 AM
I haven't actually compared them side by side to the PRS so it's hard to say. GibsonJunkie has a Special with P90s that rip. This makes a good excuse to get together with him, in the interest of science, and do some comparisons.

Our PT-90's are pretty hot.

Joe-Bob
July 9th, 2009, 06:24 PM
What's the T for?

Larry F
July 9th, 2009, 06:51 PM
The last thing I want to see is a bunch of people who are upset because their pickup has gone microphonic after they attempted the mod themselves.

Can you tell a layman why a pickup is microphonic and how to fix that?

petebradt
July 9th, 2009, 10:16 PM
Can you tell a layman why a pickup is microphonic and how to fix that?

Teles are supposed to be a little microphonic. The microphonics are a part of the tone. Teles without microphonics sound dead to me.

Larry F
July 9th, 2009, 11:22 PM
Teles are supposed to be a little microphonic. The microphonics are a part of the tone. Teles without microphonics sound dead to me.

What causes them to be microphonic?

petebradt
July 10th, 2009, 01:31 AM
You know, I don't really know but I do know a non-potted pickup will vibrate when you thunk it and you'll hear it through the amp. If you're using surgical tubing, get rid of that, go to the dime store and buy a couple cheap ball-point pens. Take the pens apart and get the springs, and use THOSE as your method of suspending the bridge pickup. If you plug into a high-gain amp, the guitar should squeal like a pig. But man, the tone you get from guitars like that is alive!

If you want a non-microphonic bridge pickup, heavy wax potting will kill the microphonics but it'll deaden the sound.

Telenator
July 10th, 2009, 08:22 AM
Can you tell a layman why a pickup is microphonic and how to fix that?

There are several reasons a pickup can become microphonic. If there are any loose parts, or sometimes air pockets in a pickup, things can vibrate sympathetically with the amp and speaker and create a loud uncontrollable howl or squeal that makes the pickup unusable.

In the case of the Re-issue Wide Range Humbucker, there is a lot of empty space under the chrome cover. In an effort to help quell the potential for feedback or a microphonic condition, Fender wraps a thick wad of waxed felt around the coils to fill up some of the dead air.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-7/774043/a004%20X%20lo-res.jpg

If someone were to take apart their pickup, install our magnets, and then find their pickup is squealing like a pig, we don't want them getting all miffy claiming that "the Telenator mod ruined my pickups." Doing the mod is not as simple as it seems. There is a potential for the pickup to become microphonic if it is not re-assembled properly and then wax potted.

Joe-Bob
July 12th, 2009, 07:00 PM
I haven't actually compared them side by side to the PRS so it's hard to say. GibsonJunkie has a Special with P90s that rip. This makes a good excuse to get together with him, in the interest of science, and do some comparisons.

Our PT-90's are pretty hot.

Lemme know. I think I might like to get one.

fezz parka
July 12th, 2009, 08:48 PM
The liveliest and most toneful pickups, in my experience, are microphonic. Then again, I don't play with an extreme amount of gain either.

Larry F
July 12th, 2009, 09:54 PM
Thanks for the explanations. When I put in my Don Mare's last year, that's what they did, squeal like a pig. I sat in with a local band last week and had to stand near my amp on a crowded stage. I was able to control it, but I really like the idea that sound was raring to jump out of my guitar.

Telenator
July 12th, 2009, 11:30 PM
Thanks for the explanations. When I put in my Don Mare's last year, that's what they did, squeal like a pig. I sat in with a local band last week and had to stand near my amp on a crowded stage. I was able to control it, but I really like the idea that sound was raring to jump out of my guitar.

Well, there's a difference of course between useable and unusable feedback. I argee with others that a slightly microphonic pickup is very lively to play. I do have reservations about trying to produce them that way. Gain is the killer. If you play clean, it's no big deal in most cases. You can play loud without any problems. Dial in some gain though, and anything but a well wound, tight pickup is going to squeal. Unfavorably.

Joe-Bob
July 15th, 2009, 12:01 AM
So, are the pickups not available yet? How much will they cost? PM me if ya want.

Telenator
July 16th, 2009, 02:04 PM
The only thing for sale at the moment is the Wide Range Humbucker mods.

Our PT90's will be coming along shortly and they are seriously sweet.

To answer a previous question, we were calling our P90 pickups "T90's" but then I noticed Pete Biltoft had a pickup model called a "T90." Well, Pete being a good guy and all we figured we'd rather avoid confusion and change our designation to PT90. He was there first. Think of ours as a kind of a "P-Telenator 90."

Things are a little crazy behind the scenes here so it may be a little while before we begin releasing the other pickup models.

Joe-Bob
July 16th, 2009, 08:04 PM
OK, Lemme know.

The P-90 in my PRS is seriously lacking compared to either of the Duncans in my LP.