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Pro Junior Club

PaulR
June 22nd, 2009, 05:52 PM
The little amp that could!:razz:

voided3
June 22nd, 2009, 06:26 PM
I've had mine for a year now and I've enjoyed it quite a bit! I did some mods to it (extra output cap, Switchcraft input jack, Eminence Ragin Cajun, etc) and it's a great amp for practices and club gigs. It's nice have lots of (overdriven) volume in such a small package.

PaulR
June 22nd, 2009, 08:55 PM
I put JJ tubes in mine along with a Jensen Mod but I would like to try an alnico in it some day. I love the simplicity of it. Not much knob twiddling!

PaulR
June 29th, 2009, 06:50 PM
No PJ love?:eek:

TexGoneNW
June 29th, 2009, 10:47 PM
Oh, yeah!

I bought my first PJ new, tweed with ceramic speaker, as a result of the rave reviews on the old Tele Discussion Page. I got a second one for a backup used, an earlier tweed with a blue frame alnico speaker, and it's my number one PJ.

Now, I saw one that was completely redone by Ace Pepper of ThunderTweak Amps, with a Deluxe Reverb transformer, a hand-wired circuit like a Matchless Spitfire, and a Ragin Cajun speaker. Nice, nice, nice, but not a PJ...heavier and more in-your-face.

I've done NOS tube tweaks with the #1 PJ, and it just sings. I've sold buddies on this little amp, too. A great pick-up-and-go-play amp.

Steve G
June 30th, 2009, 03:17 PM
I love my Pro Jr, so I'm in. I have a question if I may -

Ive swapped the first pre amp tube to a 12at7 as i found it stopped the amp being so noisy. Im I harming anything by mixing and matching tubes this way?

It sounds better to me so Im happy as long as my PJ is...

SnidelyWhiplash
June 30th, 2009, 07:28 PM
I've had 2 over the years,sold them both. Which only proves my stupidity.

:sad:

bobthecanadian
June 30th, 2009, 09:30 PM
I have one and I think it's the dogs bollocks. Unfortunately, I am moving back to Canada from Taiwan and need to sell it.. Maybe I'll get another one once I get settled.

Bob

wangdangdoodle
June 30th, 2009, 09:38 PM
I've had it months and the tone never fails to amaze me! Recantly switched to JJ tubes, and now looking into a new speaker.

TexGoneNW
July 1st, 2009, 01:40 AM
Try any ol' 12Asomething7 tube you want. I prefer a new-old-stock military grade 5751, which is kind of between a 12AY7 and a 12AX7. Depends on how much you want to tame down the "mild to wild" feature with a lower gain preamp tube.

Steve G
July 1st, 2009, 02:30 AM
Try any ol' 12Asomething7 tube you want. I prefer a new-old-stock military grade 5751, which is kind of between a 12AY7 and a 12AX7. Depends on how much you want to tame down the "mild to wild" feature with a lower gain preamp tube.

Cool! Thanks.

mudshark
July 1st, 2009, 02:53 AM
I've had one more than 10 years, I reckon; a screaming little lunchbox for sure. I love the simplicity.

Paulie13
July 1st, 2009, 02:21 PM
I have a early 90's tweed made in the USA Tweed. Any one have some info on these? Years in production, street price when they came out, value now or anything else interesting?

PaulR
July 2nd, 2009, 12:09 PM
The "dogs bullocks" is a good thing?

Steve G
July 2nd, 2009, 01:23 PM
The "dogs bullocks" is a good thing?

yes, believe it or not. and its "bol***ks".

PaulR
July 3rd, 2009, 12:48 AM
I stand corrected! (Obviously my spell check is amiss!)

Steve G
July 3rd, 2009, 04:06 AM
Its one of those phrases which is hard to imagine how it got into circulation, as it makes no sense at all, I can understand spellcheck not picking it up!

brokenjoe
July 3rd, 2009, 11:09 AM
First year tweed here. Replaced the original spkr years ago with some Fender blue thing I had lying around.

These little brutes howl! Mine's been used live, at rehearsal, and has been recorded many times in the studio -by artists that you know!

toadman
July 3rd, 2009, 11:21 AM
haven't used my DRRI since i got mine a year ago! love it! $180 bucks used and dirty! replaced T+V pots, input jack. put in JJ tubes(5751 preamp) and a rajin cajun. so far i haven't had a gig that it wouldn't handle!

Chantre
July 9th, 2009, 05:07 PM
Count me in! I just got a nice pair (one black, one tan) of them. I use them in a stereo configuration after a Blackstar Ht-dual and a Danelectro reel echo. Mine are noisy little bastards though so I'm looking to hand them over to a good tech for some mods. The reel echo could do with some work as well I guess. Anyone know of a mod for that one?

fakeocaster
July 9th, 2009, 05:53 PM
yes, believe it or not. and its "bol***ks".


Also known as the Mutts Nuts

Kellycaster
August 15th, 2009, 01:44 AM
I'm in. New Pro Jr owner for about three months. It's my first tube amp. Love the simplicity - two knobs is about all I can handle - and love the tone. No mods. I'm just a hobbist so it will stay stock for now. My little Pignose is looking mighty lonely these days.

FenderGuy53
August 25th, 2009, 01:30 PM
I LOVE my PJr! I bought it new within the past year - after reading the reviews, then actually playing one at GC and Sam Ash.

I replaced the full tubeset with JJs and EHs and replaced the stock speaker with an Eminence Ramrod. It actually sounded okay before the upgrades, but Now=Wow!

I plug my Strat straight into the PJR, set the Volume to 6-7, Tone to 3-4, then use my Strat volume knob to go from clean to mean!

Did I say that I LOVE my PJR?

bgwatts
August 27th, 2009, 11:13 AM
Any fellow PJ players out there ever try a tone tubby hemp-cone?
recently, I've been trying to expand the sound of that little box with the blue frame 10. SO,one afternoon,I get to experimenting with other cabinets and such. Just out of curiosity(I hear it will KILL a cat)I remove the blue frame to see if a 12 will fit in the cab. And during the proccess..I drop the damn thing. I break the fiber patch that mounts the wires and I put my thumb through the cone.:oops:. SO.....excellent chance to UPGRADE:wink:
Now back to the original question...anybody running a 10" tone tubby?

FenderGuy53
August 27th, 2009, 11:58 AM
Go for it!

I have a USA Crate V1512T with a 12" Tone Tubby speaker and it sounds marvelous. Folks love the Cannabis Rex in their Blues Junior's - the CRex is a hemp-cone speaker.

I'm sure if Eminence made a 10" hemp-cone, the Pro Junior owners would be all over it!

A hemp-cone speaker will be warmer and smoother than your stock speaker.

Good luck.

bgwatts
August 27th, 2009, 12:13 PM
warmer and smoother sounds nice. I play a frankensquire esquire and a jerry jones......and you do have to pay attention. they can get a little piercing if your not paying attention.

FenderGuy53
August 27th, 2009, 01:08 PM
Did you check out the Tone Tubby (http://www.tonetubby.com/ss.html) sound samples (click the link)?

Personally, I prefer a ceramic speaker. Unfortunately, Tone Tubby doesn't have a sound sample for the 10" ceramic, but if you listen to the 8" and 12" samples, you can get an idea of how the 10" would sound.

Enjoy!

Eric_M
September 2nd, 2009, 01:39 AM
I have a MIM model that suffered from the dreaded Pro Junior hum; rerouting the wires and installing new preamp tubes got rid of it. Otherwise it's stock; sounds great with my Keeley-modded TS9.

OuttaspaceMan
September 2nd, 2009, 02:06 AM
I've had my Pro Jr for 2 years now and still loving it! Great little amp I must say. No mods yet, all stock. Hopefully would get to try JJ tubes when these stock ones expire :)

modestglock26
September 2nd, 2009, 09:01 PM
I just joined the club with a Pro Jr. in the Tonedog 12" cab with a new Weber and some JJ's. It looks beautiful and plays great so far.

I have to be honest, I'm not sre if this amp is the right setup for me right now...but I will admit is sounds great through my new to me MIM upgraded Tele with all American guts and upgrades. Talk about some twang.

brokenjoe
September 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM
I just joined the club with a Pro Jr. in the Tonedog 12" cab with a new Weber and some JJ's. It looks beautiful and plays great so far.

I have to be honest, I'm not sre if this amp is the right setup for me right now...but I will admit is sounds great through my new to me MIM upgraded Tele with all American guts and upgrades. Talk about some twang.

I've got a Tonedog on the way! Been playing my Pro Jr. through an open back 12" cab for some time now, so I thought it was time to go all the way.

My Pro Jr. is one of the first tweed ones. Apparently, there's some difference between the ones coming out of Mexico, to the older made in USA models -but I don't know.

All I can say is that my '52 RI through my Pro Jr. and a 12" spkr. is one of the most harmonically rich amps I've ever played through. It sings, it howls when I want it to, and it feeds back beautifully.

I don't use distortion pedals -I just turn 'er up!!

Hiker
September 5th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Sounds like some keep playing through a Pro Jr with no mods...

cfender
September 14th, 2009, 12:53 PM
I have a MIM model that suffered from the dreaded Pro Junior hum; rerouting the wires and installing new preamp tubes got rid of it. Otherwise it's stock; sounds great with my Keeley-modded TS9.

I just got one that looks bareley used. The noise without anything plugged in was pretty bad. I took out the top center screw on the back panel - as suggested on various internet sites - and the noise was greatly reduced.

BUT...when I plugged in my CV tele the noise was REALLY bad and increased as the volume was turned up.

Are these the symptons that your wire re-routing and preamp tube replacement addressed?

Steve G
September 14th, 2009, 01:26 PM
cfender, try the pre amp tube first, that solved my hum pretty much totally. changed it for a 12at7 incidentally (the tube in the first slot)

cfender
September 14th, 2009, 10:00 PM
I fixed the hum problem. It was easy. Unfortunately I had to plug in a $4000 Les Paul to get rid of the hum.

This is my first tube amp. I had NO IDEA how obnoxious the CV's single coils would sound. Its OK until I get past half volume. Then it's like sonic waterboarding.

Eric_M
September 27th, 2009, 12:59 PM
I just got one that looks barely used. The noise without anything plugged in was pretty bad. I took out the top center screw on the back panel - as suggested on various internet sites - and the noise was greatly reduced.

BUT...when I plugged in my CV tele the noise was REALLY bad and increased as the volume was turned up.

Are these the symptoms that your wire re-routing and preamp tube replacement addressed?

Right, taking out the center screw was the first thing I tried. It helped a little. I'd say swapping out the preamp tube had the most effect. Like Steve G, I used a 12AT7.

This wasn't a buzz as much as a low-pitched (but *loud*) hum. Didn't matter if a guitar had single coils, humbuckers, etc. In fact, the amp's volume setting didn't have much effect on it, either.

AjayTele
September 28th, 2009, 01:57 AM
WHAT! No photos? I'll fix that...

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderProJunior_3.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderProJuniorTop_2.jpg

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderProJuniorBack_1.jpg

Great little amps, as simple and effective as it gets...:cool:

Jimclarke100
September 28th, 2009, 03:13 AM
I got a black PJ to replace an Orange Tiny Terror and the PJ is so much better. The TT seems to have no top - made my tele's and my Rick sound dull. The PJ, whilst a little noisy brings back all the sparkle. Amp is still totally stock, but I plan on trying some of Billm's mods in a while to try to reduce the hiss a bit - once I finish my Princeton build.

brokenjoe
September 29th, 2009, 08:02 PM
I finally got around to picking up a cab with a 12" speaker enclosure for my Pro. Jr. -something I always wanted to do.

I got it here:
http://www.newellamps.com/

Great construction, and looks real cool in Lacquered tweed. I put a Jensen P12Q in it and it is absolutely fantastic!

The 12" really opens up the tone. It's a lot more bassier, and not so boxy. It's my main amp now. Super simple, just the way I like things:

Tone on 12, volume on 12, and I'm good to go!

s360guitarist
October 3rd, 2009, 12:09 PM
Can I plug my PJ into a 1x12 cab rated at 16ohm?

h20man
October 8th, 2009, 10:07 AM
Just bought a used PJ last week. Sounds great, I think I may like it better than the Blues Junior I had but not quit as nice as the PRRI I had. Still its a great sounding small amp. I may upgrade the speaker and tubes down the road as well.

shorty ray
October 21st, 2009, 02:26 PM
i bought a tweed made in usa about five years ago in a pawn shop for $50.00 still looked new. it has the blue frame alnico speaker and sounds great, i don't know when it was built.

brokenjoe
October 22nd, 2009, 06:27 PM
Here's my little monster. I took a great sounding amp, and made it better.
I bought a 12" speaker cab here:

http://www.newellamps.com/index.html

I put a Jensen P12Q in it for vintage tweed tone, and cut the negative feedback loop for more warmth and oomph. I've still got a couple of small mods to do as well, but for the most part, she's pretty much there!

First shot with my tele for scale:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Tele%20Sr..jpg

Top:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%201.jpg

Back:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%202.jpg

Back w/back panel off:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%203.jpg

I highly recommend this cab. It's solid pine, doesn't rattle, looks great, and is finished with lacquer over the tweed. As you can see, it even has metal corner protectors which the Jr. cab doesn't.

It's also a real light little brute.

I really love running it wide open!!

toadman
October 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM
Here's my little monster. I took a great sounding amp, and made it better.
I bought a 12" speaker cab here:

http://www.newellamps.com/index.html

I put a Jensen P12Q in it for vintage tweed tone, and cut the negative feedback loop for more warmth and oomph. I've still got a couple of small mods to do as well, but for the most part, she's pretty much there!

First shot with my tele for scale:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Tele%20Sr..jpg



Top:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%201.jpg

Back:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%202.jpg

Back w/back panel off:

http://www.brokenjoe.com/images/web%20shots%20misc/Sr%203.jpg

I highly recommend this cab. It's solid pine, doesn't rattle, looks great, and is finished with lacquer over the tweed. As you can see, it even has metal corner protectors which the Jr. cab doesn't.

It's also a real light little brute.

I really love running it wide open!!

OMG! that is beeyootiful! a PJ through a 12" speaker must CRANK!!! was that a special order?

at my last gig i had the opportunity to plug my PJ through a Marshall 4 banger cab. it was heavenly!

brokenjoe
October 23rd, 2009, 12:34 PM
OMG! that is beeyootiful! a PJ through a 12" speaker must CRANK!!! was that a special order?


No, I bought it Here:

http://www.newellamps.com/

toadman
October 23rd, 2009, 12:50 PM
No, I bought it Here:

http://www.newellamps.com/

yes but i didn't see a PJ cab of any kind on the newell site. am i missing something? i'd LOVE to check one out!

brokenjoe
October 23rd, 2009, 02:17 PM
yes but i didn't see a PJ cab of any kind on the newell site. am i missing something? i'd LOVE to check one out!

Call or email JD and he'll give you a price. It's not listed on his site, but he makes 'em!

Great guy to deal with.

Lots of cool coverings too.

s360guitarist
October 29th, 2009, 02:46 PM
Just bought a used PJ. Should be enroute over the next day or two. Looking forward to getting a hold of it to see what it needs, if anything. (Tubes, Speaker, etc.)

Been GAS'ing to join this little club for some time now...

eddiewagner
November 14th, 2009, 10:10 AM
Been GAS'ing to join this little club for some time now...
me too after i talked a it with dan baird. he really recommends pro juniors. after a marshall class5 deal went bad, my local dealer will get me a pro next week. hopefully there will be no hum- and other-issues. then i will hook it up with a 1x12" cab loaded with a tonker. eddie

TheDev01dOne
November 14th, 2009, 10:24 AM
I've just bought myself a brand new black (I assume MIM) version after longing for one for years but never having the guts to downgrade from the 3channel all flutes and whistles Laney I had in UK.

Now I'm back in Aus I wanted small, simple and just nice standard overdriven tone and it does it all fine. It's a bit noise with my badly wired, unsheilded single coil Esquires and I think very dirty power. But not uncomfortably so.

I'd love the tweed version when I have money for it, but can't see myself ever selling this now that I have it so the tweed could be #1 and this could be backup.. Maybe even get a signal splitter and run both for bigger gigs? Oooh.

Can anyone explain the differences between the tweed and black versions? Apart from obviously price and the tweed looking soooo much nicer. I'm not too knowledgable about electronics so lamens terms would be nice.

Anyway I love my rig now.. pick an Esquire -->> tuner pedal -->> Pro Jr. .. So simple and sounds so great.

wangdangdoodle
November 14th, 2009, 01:40 PM
Since last posting here... I have also upgraded my speaker to a Celestion Vintage and that makes a huge difference! Very creamy and smooth.

PaulR
November 18th, 2009, 12:45 PM
I was looking at a thread for the Super Champ XD recently and came across some discussion about a cab to house a 12-inch speaker. After looking around, I ended up bookmarking this for future investigation...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Pro-Junior_W0QQitemZ380170431628QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_ DefaultDomain_0?hash=item5883ec6c8c

rand z
November 18th, 2009, 01:01 PM
count me in the pro jr. contingency... great little amp that can be made even greater with tubes and speaker mods. had mine for 4 or 5 years and have used it all over the country... held up fine. never had it turned up over 5, but miced it most of the time. worked well with my pedalboard, too.

rand z

eastvillager
November 19th, 2009, 09:28 PM
I've had Pro Jr's since they came out. I have a couple at the Studio (http://www.cowboytechnical.com/NewCowboyTechnical/Welcome_New_Cowboy.html) and a couple more for the backline at the club (www.lakesidelounge.com/). I had a dual Pro Jr rig on the road for a while that was pretty cool. I have a personal one that I keep at home for the grab and go amp. Have a Mercury OT and I had a Rajun' Cajun 10" in the stock cab that was pretty darn good.

Recently I got a 12" combo cab from Mather Cabs (http://www.mathercab.com/) in Nashville. They were great to deal with. Custom color no extra charge. With a EMI Tonkerlite 12" the rig weighs in at less than 22 pounds and it really gets up on its hind legs.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/roscoenyc/IMG_0927.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/roscoenyc/IMG_0933.jpg

and my old Dual Pro Jr rig.
One Pro Jr powered the Bassman bottom and the other Pro Jr powered the 10's in each amp. w 66 Tele Custom
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y266/roscoenyc/DualProJr66tele_IMG_2.jpg

TheDev01dOne
November 20th, 2009, 01:30 AM
Any chance of some kind of diagram or more detailed info how you worked your dual pro jr rig there and what speakers etc? Looks like a cool setup.

eastvillager
November 20th, 2009, 08:58 AM
I can't make a diagram for you but I can try to explain it better.
Basically, the Pro Jr on the left (Blonde) powered the 2 x 12" Bassman cabinet with 2 Jensen Alnicos in it.

The Pro Jr on the right (tweed) has had an internal Y cord installed so there are 2 speaker outs. There is a Jensen Alnico in the tweed amp and a Mojotone 10" in the blonde one.

So, Blonde Pro Jr-2 x12 closed back Jensen Alnico
Tweed Pro Jr- 2 x 10" open back, 1 Jensen Alnico, 1 Mojotone

The board that I was using at the time had a Fulltone Choral/Flange as the last pedal so I had 2 outs. I usually had the Blonde amp that was powering the 2 x 12" cab set a little cleaner than the Tweed one so they would react to the pedals differently.

Fun rig for sure.