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otterhound June 17th, 2009, 05:04 PM Bring 'em on . Fender and others . Mine . http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220001.jpghttp://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220005.jpg
How many are out there ?
BritishBluesBoy June 17th, 2009, 05:08 PM Y'all must be sick of seeing this one by now!! Warmoth body and neck, Callaham hardware, Fralins and 4 way. Sweet!
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/march68/2.jpg
LGOberean June 18th, 2009, 01:12 PM Boy, I'd like to be a member of this club. I just can't swing it right now. I love the look of Rosewood Teles. George Harrison's RW was a big influence on me, the first Tele to be seen by me as a guitar that could Rock.
LGOberean June 18th, 2009, 04:43 PM Y'all must be sick of seeing this one by now!! Warmoth body and neck, Callaham hardware, Fralins and 4 way. Sweet!
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/march68/2.jpg
Not at all, BBB. That's a very nice pic of a beautiful guitar. I'm nowhere near tired of seeing it.
BTW, how do those Fralin pups compare to Fender's?
pcypert June 19th, 2009, 12:29 AM And how much did it cost to put all that together? Looks really nice. I love the rosewood tele's but the Fender customs are a bit out of my range....
Paul
BritishBluesBoy June 19th, 2009, 01:00 AM Not at all, BBB. That's a very nice pic of a beautiful guitar. I'm nowhere near tired of seeing it.
BTW, how do those Fralin pups compare to Fender's?
Thanks man, I'm kinda fond of it myself :mrgreen:
The Fralins are stunning. Absolutely gorgeous pickups.
And how much did it cost to put all that together? Looks really nice. I love the rosewood tele's but the Fender customs are a bit out of my range....
Paul
I can't remember exactly how much but I think it was around $1500 - $1600 or so and worth every penny...
pcypert June 19th, 2009, 05:10 AM Also, since we're on the subject, how thick is the gloss or overcoat on that body? It looks pretty shiny but not sure if thats just the camera technique or the body...
Paul
BritishBluesBoy June 19th, 2009, 10:07 AM Also, since we're on the subject, how thick is the gloss or overcoat on that body? It looks pretty shiny but not sure if thats just the camera technique or the body...
Paul
Not thick at all but nice and shiny...
LGOberean June 22nd, 2009, 02:45 PM Quote:
Originally Posted by pcypert
And how much did it cost to put all that together? Looks really nice. I love the rosewood tele's but the Fender customs are a bit out of my range....
Paul
I can't remember exactly how much but I think it was around $1500 - $1600 or so and worth every penny...[/QUOTE]
I think I may check with Bob Logan and see what he'd charge for a RW Tele. I've had him build 2 Teles for me already (a mahogany solid body and an Alder Thinline). I'm sure this would qualify as being one of his "higher end" builds, but even so I'm guessing it would be in the price range you speak of. Certainly cheaper than a used MIJ or a FMIC Custom Shop RI.
LGOberean June 24th, 2009, 06:12 PM As I said before, George Harrison's RW Tele was a big influence on me, and so I thought this thread needed some pictures of George and that famous Tele.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/XKnight/harrison2.jpghttp://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/XKnight/harrison3.jpg
LGOberean June 27th, 2009, 04:34 PM Okay, as a follow-up to my earlier post (#9 above), I have a query in to Bob Logan to see if he would do a RW Tele, and if so, what it would cost. When I hear back from him, I can post the information here or reply to any PM queries for the info.
However, after the idea of querying Bob about this came to me, we became victims of Murphy's Law. The A/C in my wife’s car is going out, and we’re seriously considering that it may just be time to get her a new car. It’s a 2000 Saturn L series with 165,000+ miles in 9 years.
So at this point, whatever reply I get from Bob will be academic. For the foreseeable futre, I’m not in the market for one personally.
Maybe someone should start a thread about why bad things happen to perfectly good plans for guitar purchases. :wink:
otterhound June 27th, 2009, 07:30 PM It isn't only related to guitar purchases , my friend . When things like what you are describing happen to me , I have learned that I am usually headed the right direction . Truly good things rarely come without sacrifice and easily . I , for one , am pulling for ya all the way . If you truly want it to happen , you will find the way . I want to see some pics of your 'Rosie' when you get her . Welcome associate member .
LGOberean June 28th, 2009, 04:06 PM Thanks, otterhound. Well, I certainly would like to find a way to own a Rosewood Tele. I just don't know how quickly I can move from "Associate Member" on to full fledged membership status.
I had Bob Logan build me a Tele last year, and bought his prototype "Logo" Thinline just this past April. So selling my tolerant but perplexed wife on the idea of a RW build this soon would probably be a chore even without the automotive woes facing us.
BTW, "Rosie" = Rosewood Tele. :smile: I like it. I don't know if you coined that particular appellation, but I like it.
I also like the "Associate Member" status conferred upon me as a RW Tele owner wanna be.
P.S. Is anyone else surprised that AjayTele hasn't chimed in here yet? :eek: :confused:
LGOberean June 29th, 2009, 01:44 PM Okay, about Bob Logan and Rosewood Teles, I heard back from him over the weekend, but haven’t been able to post about it before now.
Bob has been “thinking of building a rosewood body for some time now.” Locating the material to do the body has been an issue.
“I have been having a hard time finding 8/4 material to do a solid body. I can get 4/4 material to do a semi hollow body with bookmatched veneers. It’s quite expensive, but no more than the zebra wood.”
Of course, pickups for such a build would be a matter of choice. Bob uses maple necks, so he talked about either doing one using “a maple neck with a rosewood board” or checking into a solid Rosewood neck.
Bob hasn’t set any price on such a build, but as I said before, I’m guessing that it would be no more than his other higher end offerings, which so far have been in the $1,200 - $1,600 range. Certainly a viable and affordable option to consider, IMHO.
LGOberean July 7th, 2009, 03:57 AM As I said before, George Harrison's RW Tele was a big influence on me, and so I thought this thread needed some pictures of George and that famous Tele.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/XKnight/harrison2.jpghttp://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e308/XKnight/harrison3.jpg
The still shots I posted earlier are nice, as far as they go, but I think we need to see George's Rosewood in action. When I think of that guitar, I think of two songs: "Let It Be" and "Get Back."
George's solo work in "Let It Be" is just so tasty.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tA9e4o2-az0&feature=related
George rockin' out on his RW Tele in "Get Back" is just classic.
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telechaser August 26th, 2009, 12:10 AM Y'all must be sick of seeing this one by now!! Warmoth body and neck, Callaham hardware, Fralins and 4 way. Sweet!
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u116/march68/2.jpg
I won't tire of looking at this. How much does it weigh BBB?
BritishBluesBoy August 26th, 2009, 10:09 AM I won't tire of looking at this. How much does it weigh BBB?
Hey Mate,
Honestly I've never weighed it but as the body is chambered it's really not heavy at all...
mr newhaven August 26th, 2009, 11:34 AM ive done these pics to death but never on the rosewood club page!
so here you go!
MIJ (late 80's) Rosewood Tele with bigsby and Bill Lawrence one off's...
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0543.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0544.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0545.jpg
mr newhaven August 26th, 2009, 11:35 AM http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0547.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0548.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0549.jpg
before my Ron Kirn Barnbuster...this was my FAVORITE tele...now it shares its time with me...
AjayTele August 27th, 2009, 06:37 AM P.S. Is anyone else surprised that AjayTele hasn't chimed in here yet? :eek: :confused:
I guess that would be because I hadn't seen the thread yet! :roll:
Maybe we should start with the family shot and go from there?
The Rosewood Tele Family
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/RosewoodFamily1_1.jpg
L2R:
1969 Rosewood, CS John Cruz Masterbuilt Harrison Replica Rosewood, CS Teambuilt Limited Release 2007 Closet Classic Rosewood, MIJ Rosewood 1, MIJ Rosewood 2, CIJ (full) Rosewood, CIJ (Veneer) Rosewood, MIM (veneer) Rosewood.
jazzguitar August 28th, 2009, 09:27 AM Great pictures!
Well, I only have one RT but it's kinda special. MIJ Fender with a one-piece body, more precisely it is chambered and hollowed, glued from four pieces, but those were originally from one piece. A bit heavy (9lbs) but with a wide strap still very comfortable. And it sounds terrific!
http://www.blueglow.de/images/94RT01.jpg
Here it is after some special treatment, I replaced the Japanese hardware with period-correct 1969 parts, including the tuners but not the control plate (holes would not match) and the pickups which are Fender SCN noiseless. Putting these on was like installing new strings, great pickups!
http://www.blueglow.de/images/94RT02.jpg
http://www.blueglow.de/images/94RT03.jpg
Because the body halves were from one piece, the body front is perfectly bookmatched, the back (showing the grain from the outer sides of what was cut into four pieces to make the body) less perfectly matched but still great. Among dozens of Rosewood Tele pictures I've seen on ebay other than my own I've only seen two that were made from the same piece of wood front and back, but not the same left and right halves!
http://www.blueglow.de/images/94RT04.jpg
For those who would like to own a Rosewood Tele on a budget (well not exactly budget but not too expensive anyway) there is one MIJ on ebay right now that did not sell for $995!
And it is one of the two mentioned above. Most go for $1500 and up, and dealers often want $2500 and up (the Custom Shop US ones are at least $3500 on ebay).
P.S. It appears the seller who relisted it took it out again, can't find it now. Original item no was 270443660274
jazzguitar August 28th, 2009, 09:29 AM Hey Ajay! Great pictures! More details, please?
mr newhaven August 28th, 2009, 11:15 AM gorgeous tele jazzguitar!
i love the grain pattern...
i love seeing pics of other people's rosewoods...
i love mine to death...unfortunately i just purchased a Ron Kirn Barnbuster and that baby has been stealing my time but i would love to one day be as fortunate as Ajaytele...his collection is the single best collection of RT that i have seen ever!
i checked out that RT on ebay...i have serious gas now...as you can see from my pics i have a modified RT and although i love it...love it!!...i like the idea of having one "stock" as well...the MIJ quality wise is perfect! but when im ready...if there isnt one around i might just bite the bullet on the CS model...
I have spoken to Ajaytele and he can attest that the CS models are brilliant!
so we shall see...thanks for getting me amped up to buy another guitar i dont need guys!
hahahahhahahaha
BAW4742 August 28th, 2009, 11:48 AM it's not a Fender but here's another Rosey -
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk213/bescratchy/Rosewood/FirstRosie.jpg
And then there's this one
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk213/bescratchy/Thickline/2009_01_023.jpg
SixShooter August 28th, 2009, 12:45 PM Didn't the original rosewood Teles use a core in the body of a different type of wood? Has anyone built one like this or have pictures of the construction method?
And how do these sound compared to a standard ash/maple neck Tele?
mr newhaven August 28th, 2009, 12:59 PM the rosewoods had a maple slice wedged in between to the two rosewood slabs...
originals were solid...and heavy as hell (which is one of the reasons i heard harrison got rid of his)
but mine is chambered and even chambered its over 9lbs...
ajaytele has the real thing and knows by far more than anyone else i can recall when it comes to RT's...
SixShooter August 28th, 2009, 02:25 PM the rosewoods had a maple slice wedged in between to the two rosewood slabs...
Was this aesthetic only?
mr newhaven August 28th, 2009, 02:34 PM i think it brightens up the sound a bit...to be honest with you thats a tough question...
rosewood teles dont sound like regular teles...i cant describe it fully but they have a lower end to them that i cant find in a regular tele...
its a lot more full sounding
it definitely sounds fantastic...
my only other tele is made from loblolly pine and those sound a bit different as well...when compared to regular telecasters...my alder body strat sounds a bit "thinner" possibly a bit "brighter" to use those terms loosely but that could be the pickups as well...
ultimately i think the maple is there for more than just aesthetic reasons or else they would have used it like a binding instead of a full wedge of it...
i hope this round a bout answer helps!
Ormond August 28th, 2009, 02:47 PM BAW4742 - Whoa - that back looks exactly like the back on my Martin D-28. This gives me a totally strange idea....a two piece with the front of the Tele being like the Martin Spruce, and the back like the one above. A TELE to match my Martin...This would be so amazing.
BAW4742 August 28th, 2009, 05:32 PM BAW4742 - Whoa - that back looks exactly like the back on my Martin D-28. This gives me a totally strange idea....a two piece with the front of the Tele being like the Martin Spruce, and the back like the one above. A TELE to match my Martin...This would be so amazing.
The front of that one is maple. There is a picture of the front of it on my gallery, I got the idea for it after building a D-28 copy. For that Tele I used some build techniques like an acoustic and some like an electric.
BritishBluesBoy August 28th, 2009, 05:35 PM Was this aesthetic only?
Yes.
jazzguitar August 29th, 2009, 08:17 AM Was this aesthetic only?
The maple layer could have been purely aesthetic, but afaik it was introduced after the first Rosewood Teles proved to be to heavy (Elvis sent his back for that reason), and it was decided to hollow out some inner chambers and glue the halves together again. Maybe the maple layer was inserted to make up for the cut width of the original body's wood.
BAW4742, wow that's pretty (second picture!)
I guess that would be because I hadn't seen the thread yet! :roll:
yes, what about more details? I'd be interested in comparison of the '69 original, Custom Shop and MIJ models (weight-wise, workmanship etc) thanks!
BAW4742 August 29th, 2009, 09:09 AM BAW4742, wow that's pretty (second picture!)
Thanks jazzguitar. I'm happy with the way that one turned out.
telechaser August 29th, 2009, 09:22 AM http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk213/bescratchy/Thickline/2009_01_023.jpg
Can we see the front and stop trying to be a tease. :wink:
BAW4742 August 29th, 2009, 05:49 PM Can we see the front and stop trying to be a tease. :wink:
Sure you can. I thought no one was gonna ask.
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk213/bescratchy/Thickline/Finished-waitingforfinaltweaks4.jpg
There's also a build thread on it if you're interested.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/127991-different-thinline-build-maybe.html
Humbuster September 1st, 2009, 05:38 PM I am close to selling my Harley and plan to add a new acoustic and electric to my fold.
I think I have the acoustic covered (Martin D41).
For an electric, I am considering one of my "dream" guitars; a new Rosewood Tele.
There are a few new ones (not too many to be found)
Please talk me out ot this.
otterhound September 2nd, 2009, 07:44 AM You have good taste , my friend . There are some new Rosewoods out there to be had . Dave's in Wisconsin and The Music Zoo in NYC both have some listed . Gotta have some pics when you pick yours out .
Humbuster September 2nd, 2009, 09:23 AM Thanks, Otterhound.
After looking at the prices of other Custom Shop Teles and Gibson Historics, the Rosewood is looking better all the time.
I mentioned the price to the wife last night and I may have to match the funds with some new furniture (dining room ) to match my new wood.
mr newhaven September 2nd, 2009, 10:21 AM get the rosewood!
you wont regret it at all!!!!!
the custom shop one at the music zoo is gorgeous...i have talked with the guy over there on the phone at least half a dozen times and he is very knowledgable and eager to help...if you live in the new york area....oh i just saw the colorado...hmm
call anyways!
they have a random all rosewood strat too...about 6k thought
:-(
BigDaddyLH September 2nd, 2009, 11:09 AM I love the look of rosewood too. I've been thinking of getting a neck and body from Warmoth and choosing woods for a warm, rather than bright, tone. My main wood choices are rosewood ($$$) or mahogany. Maybe I should compromise and get a rosewood veneer on mahogany. I especially like the look without a pickguard -- got to show off the wood!
Does anyone have a Tele with a rosewood veneer/cap?
mr newhaven September 2nd, 2009, 11:12 AM ajaytele has a few of them!
ask him whats good!
i have an all mahogany les paul and youre right about the mahogany its a bit darker...a bit fuller...very good wood choice!
i also got a pine telecaster...and it sounds great!
something about unusual wood choices that intrigue me!
i have an alder strat...but i wanted different combos for my other axes...
good luck to you!
BigDaddyLH September 2nd, 2009, 11:36 AM I was playing around with the custom body builder on Warmoth. These prices are just for the wood, chambered (no finish, binding or other tweaks):
Mahogany + Indian rosewood veneer: $292
3-piece Indian rosewood: $522
2-piece Indian rosewood: $622
Yikes! Twice as expensive? With a gloss finish you're heading to a $1000 body (w/o hardware)!
mr newhaven September 2nd, 2009, 12:06 PM yeah it can get expensive...but remember if you can find one...an MIJ will run you anywhere between 1500-2500...
and a custom shop goes for around 3-4 easy...
it is what it is...you know?
BigDaddyLH September 2nd, 2009, 12:11 PM I guess rosewood is bound to be $$$
My other thought for a custom tele is to go all black: black body and pickguard (maybe black CC pup), ebony fretboard w/o inlay and black head stock. Choices!
otterhound September 2nd, 2009, 04:56 PM Thanks, Otterhound.
After looking at the prices of other Custom Shop Teles and Gibson Historics, the Rosewood is looking better all the time.
I mentioned the price to the wife last night and I may have to match the funds with some new furniture (dining room ) to match my new wood.
Treat her right and you will reap the rewards . I believe that Wildwood guitars in Colo. is a CS dealer as well . I chose The Music Zoo because of location . I have no regrets . Good people . Last time that I looked , they had a Greg Fessler Masterbuilt , he built mine and it plays like butter . I met Greg at the Zoo . Great guy . Keep in mind the satin and gloss finishes . Worth every penny to me .
AjayTele September 2nd, 2009, 05:52 PM Some poeple have asked for my comparison of the Rosewoods...from the original '69 through to the Rosewood Veneer Models, so I'll give it a shot.
1969 Rosewood
Mine is about 95% original, which means that it's basically a 40 year old guitar that has issues associatd with it's age, e.g. scratchy pots, switch. I understand mine is an early production model, it is chambered and not heavy (for a Rosewood). It sounds a bit thin, compared to the CS Rosewoods. It has a one piece (skunk stripe) neck. The Rosewood grain match on the body is not as good as the CS guitars either.
CS Rosewood Teles
I have two, a Masterbuilt NOS and a Teambuilt "closet classic", both are George Harrison replicas, i.e. Two piece neck and satin finish. Both of these guitars are just beautiful to look at, feel and play. They have a warmish tone, compared to "standard" Teles, but still are twangy enough to be instantly recognisable as a Tele. They both arrived with a perfect setup and I have not had to change anything on them for personal preference. I have had a few well respected and talented guitarists play my Teambuilt at a local Jam night and everyone who plays it, loves it.
MIJ Rosewood Teles (full Rosewood bodies)
These guitars are made fairly close in specifications to the original production models, i.e. they have one piece necks and chambered bodies. They are slightly heavier than both the 69 and the CS models, I put this down to probably slightly less chambering of the body. The main difference that these guitars have is that they have a 6 barrel saddle, instead of the original 3 barrel style. Don't know why. They also mostly have a thicker gloss finish (although there are a few rarer examples around with a thin satin finish). These guitars also sound nice, but the whole feel of the guitar just isn't as nice as the CS ones, probably mainly due to the surface finish.
CIJ and MIM Rosewood Veneer Teles
These guitars are pretty much standard CIJ/MIM teles with a Rosewood veneer body. They fell, play and sound like standard teles. All that they offer of course is that they look nicer than a standard Tele.
My pick?
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a CS Rosewood Tele if I really wanted a Rosewood Tele. They are fantastic guitars, have enormous mojo and probably they also will become collectable into the future. Hmm.... maybe I should buy a production model replica.... :roll:
BigDaddyLH September 2nd, 2009, 05:59 PM Great guy . Keep in mind the satin and gloss finishes . Worth every penny to me .
Have you seen a satin finish rosewood (body, not just neck)? I was wondered what that would look like. I'm not wild about gloss, so I was wondering what that would look like.
otterhound September 2nd, 2009, 06:50 PM Have you seen a satin finish rosewood (body, not just neck)? I was wondered what that would look like. I'm not wild about gloss, so I was wondering what that would look like.
Yes .http://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220001.jpghttp://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220005.jpghttp://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220012.jpghttp://i549.photobucket.com/albums/ii389/otterhound1/P3220009.jpg I could not be more pleased with the satin finish . Best that I can do with photos . I have seen the gloss and I do prefer the satin .
BigDaddyLH September 2nd, 2009, 11:33 PM Damn! And to think I used to chase blondes... That's settles it. If I put together a Rosewood Tele that's the finish for me, too. But I'm still thinking of getting a back rout so that I can go pick guardlesss.
Can I ask a few questions about your Tele?
Is the body solid or chambered? How heavy is it?
Is that a one piece neck? What wood forms the skunk line? Is the neck back satin as well, or did you leave it raw?
Finally, can you describe its tone?
otterhound September 3rd, 2009, 07:56 AM Chasing blondes can be very rewarding . She is chambered and weighs in at roughly 10 lbs. One piece neck . I believe that the neck filler strip is Maple . I would have to contact Greg about the neck finish but I know that it is in satin or raw . It is not gloss . It feels similar to the body , so I will say at this time that it is a satin finish . The sound is very full . On the bridge it can and will bite yet it can be mellowed in a way that non Rosewood Teles likely cannot . The neck pup is just special . It is also very full sounding and not edgy at all . This one has the old style wiring . Set at the forward position it is dark to be sure , yet when you put the juice to it could rival the fattest humbucker out there . Think of Neil Young's blackie . I kid you not . Just to complete the picture , I play her through a 66 Bassman that has never been modded . The pups are the CS offerings she came with . I am not sure which ones . Since she is a leftie , because of the orientation of the poles they may be one off winds . She did come with leftie pots thanks to Elliot Eastman ordering a CS leftie and Fender purchasing two sets . I got the second set . I am assuming that the pups are of the Nocaster variety , since that is a typical practice for Fender CS Teles . Her name is Rosie . I noticed a LH in your avatar . Are you a leftie also ?
BigDaddyLH September 3rd, 2009, 10:35 AM Um, my usual username is BigDaddyLoveHandles, but this forum has a 15 character limit.
mr newhaven September 3rd, 2009, 02:08 PM i love looking at...talking about...obsessing over...our rosewood teles!
i love being a member of this club!
its just such a unique instrument with an equally unique voice!
purchasing this guitar for me hurt a bit...*i wasnt in the market for a guitar...more like an amp! and on top of it i didnt have the 2000 for the guitar so i sold one of my beloved gibson acoustics...yet i am so happy that i jumped at the opportunity to own one!
i couldnt have been happier!
sure there are more expensive guitars out there...sure their are more exotic...but these just dont show up that often in the traditional outlets....so when you see one snatch it up quick!
i understand now why ajaytele has so many of them!
at first i thought he was nuts!
no offense ajaytele...i really did...until i bought one!
now i want to get a CS model...why you ask?
just cause i love the look/feel/sound of the all rosewood guitar!
i love the look of natural wood...and the heft of the body...you know you have a monster in your hands...not a delicate flower!
i understand why people regret selling these things so much...and for decades potentially once they have one and let it slip thru their grasp...
id sell my car before this beast!
BigDaddyLH September 3rd, 2009, 02:16 PM I have to ask: what's the point to this guitar body? (It's in the Warmoth stock):
http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/images/bodies/large/PT1496B.jpg
http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/images/bodies/large/PT1496D.jpg
As you can see, it's a four piece rosewood body with a rosewood veneer. Why? If you want the heft and warm tone, I think a mahogany body will deliver that, for less bucks. Who's going to see the back besides you?
otterhound September 3rd, 2009, 05:08 PM I know that this is not Tele . Have any of you ever seen or even held a Rosewood Strat ? I had the pleasure at The Music Zoo . Just gorgeous .
AjayTele September 3rd, 2009, 05:42 PM i love looking at...talking about...obsessing over...our rosewood teles!
i love being a member of this club!
its just such a unique instrument with an equally unique voice!
purchasing this guitar for me hurt a bit...*i wasnt in the market for a guitar...more like an amp! and on top of it i didnt have the 2000 for the guitar so i sold one of my beloved gibson acoustics...yet i am so happy that i jumped at the opportunity to own one!
i couldnt have been happier!
sure there are more expensive guitars out there...sure their are more exotic...but these just dont show up that often in the traditional outlets....so when you see one snatch it up quick!
i understand now why ajaytele has so many of them!
at first i thought he was nuts!
no offense ajaytele...i really did...until i bought one!
now i want to get a CS model...why you ask?
just cause i love the look/feel/sound of the all rosewood guitar!
i love the look of natural wood...and the heft of the body...you know you have a monster in your hands...not a delicate flower!
i understand why people regret selling these things so much...and for decades potentially once they have one and let it slip thru their grasp...
id sell my car before this beast!
That's the spirit Mr Newhaven :grin:
No offence taken!
I guess the entry fee to join this particular club can be larger than most, but as you say the rewards are conisderable!
I actually hate this thread. It's got me gassing for another CS Rosewood...:shock:
otterhound September 3rd, 2009, 06:01 PM Hey Ajay . I'm passing GAS for ya . By the way , I was wrong about the pups on the CS models . If I recall correctly , 67 replica bridge , 63 replica neck . Or is it the other way . It was listed on the Fender website when the run was current .
AjayTele September 3rd, 2009, 06:09 PM I'll be honest, I don't remember which pickups are in there - all I know is that they are pretty good whatever they are! :grin:
BigDaddyLH September 3rd, 2009, 08:27 PM I should have asked this right off the bat: what does a typical all rosewood custom shop Tele go for?
AjayTele September 3rd, 2009, 08:48 PM You can find second hand ones around for $3.5K New ones are ususally over $4K. :rolleyes:
whitecat September 5th, 2009, 05:52 PM Have you seen a satin finish rosewood (body, not just neck)? I was wondered what that would look like. I'm not wild about gloss, so I was wondering what that would look like.
I have an MIJ satin finish... stupid rare, apparently, as Ajay has alluded to. It's so early in production it even lacks the 'Made In Japan' decal on the heel of the neck... at first I thought it might have not even been a Fender but have been assured since by both online and offline experts that indeed it is. :)
Have posted pics about a million times here so apologies to those of you whom these are repeats for. Will do some new pics one of these months.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2142/2649561741_b31c6b912d.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2649537305_4caa334d3e.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3011/2650385872_81014790cd.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2650385806_067e5e9a9f.jpg
* Note that the neckplate, knobs and switch tip are not original, I replaced them with "period-correct" versions... but have still kept the old ones on hand.
BigDaddyLH September 5th, 2009, 06:42 PM You can find second hand ones around for $3.5K New ones are ususally over $4K. :rolleyes:
Now I'm depressed. But I'm thinking of putting one together from parts, so I can buy it a part at a time and fool myself about the total cost :roll:
otterhound September 5th, 2009, 08:05 PM Whatever it takes .
AjayTele September 14th, 2009, 10:34 PM This thread has a lot to answer for. :roll:
Just pulled the pin on another Masterbuilt Rosewood - this time a 1969 production model replica (as opposed to a George Harrison replica) which means that it has the one piece neck and gloss finish.:cool:
Will post photos when she arrives....:mrgreen:
telechaser September 14th, 2009, 10:57 PM When I saw Ajay's post on this thread, I knew it's another Rosewood Tele. I was looking at the Warmoth site and see all these beautiful Tele bodies and necks and what comes to mind is "Do I really need to build? Why not just put together Warmoth parts?" But then, after a good nights sleep, I want to build again.
BigDaddyLH September 15th, 2009, 01:21 AM I'm starting to waver in my rosewood fascination. I was talking to the luthier who did such a great job fixing up my L5, Lenore. (Warning: only the bridge is rosewood!)
http://www.jazzguitar.be/forum/attachments/guitar-amps-gizmos/1097d1252782220-back-luthier-p1010336.jpg
Anyhowdy, I told him about being able to get an all rosewood neck, and he just shrugged and suggested quarter-sawn Honduran mahogany with an ebony fingerboard instead. According to him, the wood for the body is less important. Either rosewood or mahogany, chambered, would give resonance and a warm tone.
AjayTele September 15th, 2009, 02:59 AM Well, I daresay a luthier would say that. :wink:
Rosewoods are more about the aesthetic appeal and not necessarily the nuts and bolts of tone / playability. :cool:
Although the Custom Shop Rosewoods sure do sound and play nice in any case. :mrgreen:
BigDaddyLH September 15th, 2009, 09:28 AM Yes, and there's always the body veneer.
AjayTele September 21st, 2009, 09:22 PM And here's the new Rosewood...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTele_12.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleBody_5.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleBack_1.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleBodyBack_3.jpg
It's a very beautiful thing...
otterhound September 21st, 2009, 09:36 PM Ajay , That is just gorgeous . New or second hand ?
AjayTele September 21st, 2009, 10:04 PM New, from Dave's Guitars :rolleyes:
I haven't played it yet, I love the newness of it! :roll:
otterhound September 21st, 2009, 11:17 PM I knew that I had seen her before . Good on ya !
AjayTele September 22nd, 2009, 06:45 PM Here's some more detail shots...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleHeadstock_8.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleBodyJoint_4.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleHeadstockBack_7. jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderCSMasterbuiltStdRosewoodTeleNeckBase_11.jpg
otterhound September 22nd, 2009, 09:22 PM I find the tuners to be different , so to speak . I also find it interesting that it has a non CS neck plate . Both ala the 70's .
AjayTele September 22nd, 2009, 11:43 PM Yes, this appears to be a faithful replica of the 1969 Production model Rosewood Tele. It has "F" Tuners (instead of Vintage style Klusons) and also has the one piece skunk stripe neck. It also has the gloss finish.
Of course the George Harrison Rosewood Replicas were different, having Vintage Kluson tuners, two piece necks and satin finish.
And that is actually why I decided to buy this one. :wink:
otterhound September 23rd, 2009, 08:46 AM I like the look . I would prefer satin , but it isn't mine . Mine has the Vintage type tuners , one piece neck with skunk stripe and satin finish . Since mine is a one off and not part of the Limited Run edition , it has a black case . Which case came with yours ? Do you have the blonde case ?
mr newhaven September 23rd, 2009, 04:12 PM believe it or not the poly gloss...is smooooooooooooooth as glass!
smmmmmmmooooooooooooooooooooth!
it plays fast because your hand just effortlessly slides up and down the neck...
it may not feel as "warm" as a satin finish but it plays just as good!
otterhound September 23rd, 2009, 04:48 PM I was fortunate enough to handle a gloss Rosewood Strat and I must agree with you about how smooth the neck/poly was . I was told that the gloss finish is thicker than the satin . Any ideas on whether that is accurate ?
AjayTele September 23rd, 2009, 05:09 PM I like the look . I would prefer satin , but it isn't mine . Mine has the Vintage type tuners , one piece neck with skunk stripe and satin finish . Since mine is a one off and not part of the Limited Run edition , it has a black case . Which case came with yours ? Do you have the blonde case ?
Both my Masterbuilts have black cases as well. The Limited edition teambuilts seemed to be the only ones with the white case.
Just going on feel alone (and not using a paint thickness tester or anythign technical like that), the Gloss finish feels thick than the satin.
otterhound September 23rd, 2009, 06:13 PM Thanks for the info Ajay . Enjoy that beauty !
AjayTele September 24th, 2009, 03:58 AM Will do.
Actually, I guess I should round up the herd and do an updated Rosewood family shot....:roll:
Telly Norman October 12th, 2009, 05:17 PM I've been searching for some information about my lovely Lucy (rosewood tele), the people around here really know their stuff, I'm impressed. I've owned a Rosewood since 1987 and I just wanted to fill in a few gaps as she was sold to me in a pub (off the back of a lorry as we say in England) in Liverpool for about £125! She was fresh out of the shop; not that I would buy a guitar like that now, I'm sure you understand...........
Anyway the serial no starts with an A with 6 digits after. I know the date of manufacture to be 85-86 but is she American or Japenese? It's not stamped made in Japan anywhere. All the bits are original, is that good or bad?
I've got other guitars but there is no other like my Lucy! Sublime!
If it helps I'll get some photo's sorted out.
She's not for sale but Id like to insure her (with the rest of my stuff) What do they go for these days?
Thanks for reading this anyway
The Incredible Telly Norman
AjayTele October 12th, 2009, 06:18 PM I've been searching for some information about my lovely Lucy (rosewood tele), the people around here really know their stuff, I'm impressed. I've owned a Rosewood since 1987 and I just wanted to fill in a few gaps as she was sold to me in a pub (off the back of a lorry as we say in England) in Liverpool for about £125! She was fresh out of the shop; not that I would buy a guitar like that now, I'm sure you understand...........
Anyway the serial no starts with an A with 6 digits after. I know the date of manufacture to be 85-86 but is she American or Japenese? It's not stamped made in Japan anywhere. All the bits are original, is that good or bad?
I've got other guitars but there is no other like my Lucy! Sublime!
If it helps I'll get some photo's sorted out.
She's not for sale but Id like to insure her (with the rest of my stuff) What do they go for these days?
Thanks for reading this anyway
The Incredible Telly Norman
Photos would make definitive identification easier. Also I will assume that the body of the guitar is split horizontally and has a light maple stripe at the join, which is the signature of a genuine Fender Rosewood Tele.
If that is so, then it's most likely to be a Made In Japan model. The A serial number on the bridge is an indication that it is Japanese, but be aware that the A serial isn't actually a serial number. The bridges in that period were numbered but the numbers are apparently random and don't signify anything.
If it is a MIJ Rosewood, it also should have a 6 saddle bridge, not a 3 saddle one.
It may also have "Made in Japan" at the base of the back of the neck, although sometimes this is scratched off...maybe this has happened giving the "interesting" method of purchase.
Some MIJ Rosewoods of this period also have the word "Fender" stamped in the neck plate, but again, some don't.
If your guitar is in good original condition, they have gone recently on eBay for around US$2,200.00. If it has other issues, like a non standard bridge and changed out pickups, it will go for considerably less.
Telly Norman October 13th, 2009, 03:05 PM Thanks for that.You've just described my Lucy in detail, I'll send some photo's anyway. I thought she was the 'plus belle' and then I saw your herd.. Thanks for the help and Gud day
AjayTele October 17th, 2009, 04:14 AM OK Rosewood Tele fans...here's the latest Ajay Rosewood family photos :rolleyes:
All Rosewoods (incl CIJ and MIM Veneer models)
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/RosewoodTeleFamily17.10.09_1.jpg
All 100% Rosewoods, USA and MIJ/CIJ
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FullRosewoodTeleCollection.jpg
Fender USA Rosewoods only
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSARosewoodTeles_1.jpg
Shepherd October 17th, 2009, 06:10 AM I wanna join this club sooo bad. Anybody have a good source for rosewood?
AjayTele October 17th, 2009, 07:21 AM Dave's guitars is one place... :mrgreen:
or maybe eBay... :wink:
otterhound October 17th, 2009, 07:48 AM Very impressive .
whitecat October 25th, 2009, 08:23 PM I've been searching for some information about my lovely Lucy (rosewood tele), the people around here really know their stuff, I'm impressed. I've owned a Rosewood since 1987 and I just wanted to fill in a few gaps as she was sold to me in a pub (off the back of a lorry as we say in England) in Liverpool for about £125! She was fresh out of the shop; not that I would buy a guitar like that now, I'm sure you understand...........
Anyway the serial no starts with an A with 6 digits after. I know the date of manufacture to be 85-86 but is she American or Japenese? It's not stamped made in Japan anywhere. All the bits are original, is that good or bad?
I've got other guitars but there is no other like my Lucy! Sublime!
If it helps I'll get some photo's sorted out.
She's not for sale but Id like to insure her (with the rest of my stuff) What do they go for these days?
Thanks for reading this anyway
The Incredible Telly Norman
would you describe the finish as "glossy" or "satin" ?
my rosewood tele (made in japan) is definitely "satin" - which is rare - but also does not have anything at the base of the neck ('made in japan' etc) - allegedly, very early models did not have 'made in japan' printed on them at all. so yours is likely late '85/early '86... pics welcome of course to help id it!
AjayTele April 17th, 2010, 09:55 AM I hear that SneakyJapan has just joined the club.
I also have just purchased two more Rosewoods, one is an early MIJ and the other is a genuine 1968/9 in pristine condition. I'm Excited (again) :grin:
When they arrive, I will update the family photos...:mrgreen:
BAW4742 April 18th, 2010, 08:49 PM Yep, SneakyJapan got himself a nice Rosie. I'm looking forward to those photos of your new additions.
LGOberean April 28th, 2010, 04:39 PM I hear that SneakyJapan has just joined the club.
I also have just purchased two more Rosewoods, one is an early MIJ and the other is a genuine 1968/9 in pristine condition. I'm Excited (again) :grin:
When they arrive, I will update the family photos...:mrgreen:
Well, Ajay, have those new Rosewoods arrived? And six months before your posting about those most recent acquisitions, you posted your "latest Ajay Rosewood family photos." Does this mean that your count is now up to eleven (11) Rosewoods? :shock:
AjayTele April 28th, 2010, 06:01 PM Yes the new additions to the family have now arrived... here they are:
MIJ Rosewood
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderMIJ69RosewoodRITele3_5.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderMIJ69RosewoodRITele3Body_1.jpg
1969 USA Rosewood
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/Fender1969RosewoodTele2_3.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/Fender1969RosewoodTele2Body_2.jpg
I haven't had time to get the whole tribe together yet for a group photo...
LGOberean April 30th, 2010, 12:00 PM Oh, man! I like the wood grains of the body on both guitars. That MIJ appears to be quite a bit lighter (shade) than the 69 USA. I like both, but tend to favor the darker hue. So am I right that your count is now up to eleven (11) Rosewoods?
AjayTele May 9th, 2010, 03:48 AM OK, I managed to round up the Rosewood herd and corrall them together for a new family photo :wink:. Here they are:
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/RosewoodForest.jpg
And here are the USA Rosewoods only...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/5FenderUSARoswoodTelecasters.jpg
zingy May 9th, 2010, 07:46 AM This is sooooo beautiful. I am at a loss for words.
AjayTele June 22nd, 2010, 11:20 PM And here's a new addition to the Rosewood Clan, a half cousin...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTele_6.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTeleBody_3.jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTeleHeadstock_5 .jpg
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTeleBack_1.jpg
csapo June 22nd, 2010, 11:50 PM Yep, that is a stunner!!!!!!
Nice job Ajay.
Did you find it here in the States?
Congrats mate.
AjayTele June 23rd, 2010, 12:05 AM Yep, she was in Connecticut! No longer.... :twisted:
mr newhaven June 23rd, 2010, 03:51 PM if you dont mind me asking AJAY...you said it was in CT...I live in CT...
did you get it off GBASE.Com?
ebay?
random website?
the only reason im asking it took me about 2 years to find an MIJ Rosewood...(ended up getting it at a pawn shop in Rhode Island after my buddy ran into it!)
and to be honest ive been to a lot of the shops in the area...and NEVER saw one...
thanks in advance!
AjayTele June 23rd, 2010, 05:34 PM ebay - Route 7 Guitars, nice people! :wink:
mr newhaven June 24th, 2010, 02:47 PM gotcha...
i know a place called route 1 guitars in stratford...im curious now...
thanks again ajay!
let me tell you this...i saw some of your pics at the other fender forum...gorgeous!
you and alainlafrance both have the nicest collections of guitars...period!
you two im sure could spend days just looking at each other's axes...we should set up a photo contest!
haha
but i know thats tacky!
haha
AjayTele June 24th, 2010, 05:36 PM My collection and Alain's have very different focuses and collecting isn't really a contest.
They just prove that variety is the spice of life!
csapo June 24th, 2010, 07:48 PM let me tell you this...i saw some of your pics at the other fender forum...gorgeous!
you and alainlafrance both have the nicest collections of guitars...period!
Yes they do and they are very different. I call them "Inspirational Collections".
You've got to include Mr. Wells and few others in that group too...
ebay - Route 7 Guitars, nice people! :wink:
I thought for certain it was the one at Guitar Hanger. It has sold and I figured that it was on it's way to you.
Now I want one!!!!!
Sent you an email and haven't heard back. Hope I have the correct address and I have something to chat with you about. (sorry to steal the thread for this)
AjayTele June 25th, 2010, 08:00 PM Sorry, been busy. Reply sent! :mrgreen:
Jack Wells July 2nd, 2010, 07:16 PM Ajay ...what is this ....... MIJ, Custom Shop, botique builder?
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTele_6.jpg
AjayTele July 2nd, 2010, 09:23 PM Custom shop, Jack! :mrgreen:
The Custom Shop logo is actually stamped into the headstock...
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-7/1052255/FenderUSACustomShopRosewoodThinlineTeleHeadstockBa ck_4.jpg
Tim Allard August 1st, 2010, 11:13 AM I'm a proud member. I have a CIJ veneer Rosie that I absolutely love. I think the best part of it though is that my girlfriend bought it for me, without me knowing - I think she's pretty damn cool for knowing what it was! I love my veneer Tele, but man...the things I would do for an all rosewood.
I think AjayTele is my new hero in life. Amazing collection.
LGOberean August 2nd, 2010, 06:05 PM I'm a proud member. I have a CIJ veneer Rosie that I absolutely love. I think the best part of it though is that my girlfriend bought it for me, without me knowing - I think she's pretty damn cool for knowing what it was! ...
Wow! That *is* cool, Tim. Good for her. I've been happily married for 37 years (I don't know how long my wife's been happily married :oops:), but I'll ask for the sake of my single TDPRI brothers...does she have any sisters?
Tim Allard August 2nd, 2010, 08:27 PM She's got a sister, but they're both adopted...VERY different people.
mr newhaven September 14th, 2010, 04:08 PM I am going to bump this thread...just because I love Rosewoods sooooooooo much!
AjayTele September 22nd, 2010, 06:57 PM Some will find this hard to believe, but I sold one of my MIJ Rosewoods.:shock:
Still lusting after a very early production Rosewood in the UK... :twisted:
Fran1964 September 23rd, 2010, 04:36 AM Hi ev'ryone,
I just joined in.
Talking about guitar keyboards, I undoubtedly prefer rosewood to maple, I think it's warmer in sound and playability, but more of all I find maple keyboards totally flat, while rosewood ones are more comfortably rounded.
But sincerely, I don't know much about the wood quality differences between maple and rosewood.
Fran
octatonic September 23rd, 2010, 05:03 AM I was playing around with the custom body builder on Warmoth. These prices are just for the wood, chambered (no finish, binding or other tweaks):
Mahogany + Indian rosewood veneer: $292
3-piece Indian rosewood: $522
2-piece Indian rosewood: $622
Yikes! Twice as expensive? With a gloss finish you're heading to a $1000 body (w/o hardware)!
Seems about right. :-)
I was looking the other day- a Koa top, mahogany carved top tele body was $400. A specific piece of Koa that had loads of figure and flame was an extra $400. All finished and such it was around $1150.
mr newhaven October 25th, 2010, 12:41 AM i should have another rosewood deliverd by this thursday?
i cannot waaait!
i will post pics once it comes in...i dont want to jinx anything!
:)
hellopain October 26th, 2010, 08:55 AM if i had the money i'll get this one
http://www.ishibashi-webshop.jp/img/goods/L/311929300.jpg
mr newhaven October 26th, 2010, 12:46 PM look whats on its way!!!!
here is a teaser!
i'll post more when it arrives...hopefully tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood4.jpg
mr newhaven October 26th, 2010, 05:03 PM here is a picture that shows the back!
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood9.jpg
i do have to warn you though...the front is a bit..."non traditional" in terms of what you would want to have in a rosewood tele...a lot of swirls and some knots but to me they all look good and i kinda like the funky patterns...it gives the eye something else to look at!
plus my other MIJ has a fairly straight grain so its ok to diversify!
haha
mr newhaven October 27th, 2010, 04:03 PM aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllrighty then!
here are some more pics of my 85 Rosewood Tele...no "mij" in the back but its definitely real and definitely AWESOME!
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood12.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood11.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood10.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood6.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood3.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood2.jpg
Elan I October 29th, 2010, 04:53 PM Here are my Rosewood Twins!!
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/m4rk0_0/September62009024.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i24/m4rk0_0/September62009021.jpg
BAW4742 October 29th, 2010, 10:15 PM Those twins are sweet!
AjayTele October 30th, 2010, 08:12 PM aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllllllrighty then!
here are some more pics of my 85 Rosewood Tele...no "mij" in the back but its definitely real and definitely AWESOME!
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/rosewood2.jpg
Yep, that sure is a nice one Mr Newhaven. I like the grain on that one. :mrgreen:
mr newhaven November 1st, 2010, 12:59 AM thanks ajay!
i have a thread in the main tele page asking for suggestions in which to mod it!
nothing like my other rosie with the bigsby...for this axe i was looking into pick ups and what not...so that i can convert it back to stock if necessary!
its a neat guitar...One piece back and what looks like 2 piece front...
my other mij is a six piece body so its always interesting seeing different build characteristics in the same model!
the wiring looks pretty cool with what appears to be cloth covered wires...
i have to check cap/pot values right now im messing with my acoustics more...but it certainly sounds great! classic Rosewood sound...
for now im just messing with the intonation and take notes so that when the time comes i can really set it up perfect!
thanks everyone for looking!
i love showing up my rosewoods!
they are truly my favorite teles ever!
AjayTele November 1st, 2010, 08:13 PM thanks ajay!
i have a thread in the main tele page asking for suggestions in which to mod it!
nothing like my other rosie with the bigsby...for this axe i was looking into pick ups and what not...so that i can convert it back to stock if necessary!
its a neat guitar...One piece back and what looks like 2 piece front...
my other mij is a six piece body so its always interesting seeing different build characteristics in the same model!
the wiring looks pretty cool with what appears to be cloth covered wires...
i have to check cap/pot values right now im messing with my acoustics more...but it certainly sounds great! classic Rosewood sound...
for now im just messing with the intonation and take notes so that when the time comes i can really set it up perfect!
thanks everyone for looking!
i love showing up my rosewoods!
they are truly my favorite teles ever!
I have to say that the collector in me comes out at this point... I wouldn't modify it, unless what you do is completely reversible. :wink:
mr newhaven November 1st, 2010, 08:20 PM Hahah
I agree 100% ajaytele
I'm lookin to do pup swaps or an esquire conversion
maybe reverse the control plate
do you know what pups came stock with the mij's?
If in fact that's possible to know?
AjayTele November 1st, 2010, 08:27 PM No, I don't know what pickups they used. They could even be USA pickups, seeing as they were special MIJs and so close to the buyout from CBS.
Probably almost impossible to find out for sure though. :rolleyes:
MarkBz December 30th, 2010, 06:19 PM I am a newbie. And I admit so freely. I have been an acoustic player/singer for awhile and have decided to buy an electrified guitar to see how it feels. My musical partner, who is also an experienced luthier, is setting me up with a Dillion Rosewood Tele copy. If I am not ostracized from this group, I'm hoping to learn from all of your experience. I hope you don't mind my eavesdropping.
Mark
mr newhaven December 30th, 2010, 06:25 PM not at all markbz!
enjoy the pics and then pick some brains!
tons of experts...(not me) but everyone else in this club is!
youre gonna love it...and as your first electric guitar...you couldn't have done better!
enjoy it!
String Tree December 30th, 2010, 07:01 PM http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0547.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0548.jpg
http://i675.photobucket.com/albums/vv119/mrnewhaven/IMG_0549.jpg
before my Ron Kirn Barnbuster...this was my FAVORITE tele...now it shares its time with me...
There is a HUGE problem with your guitar.
IT ISN'T MINE! :)
Stunning.
napawino December 30th, 2010, 07:15 PM http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/3930/cruz4.jpg
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8364/cruz11.jpg
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/6610/p1010884.jpg
MarkBz December 31st, 2010, 09:11 PM She's a Dillion not a Fender. But she's very pretty and plays like butter.
My first electric guitar.
rodger January 5th, 2011, 07:42 PM http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5082/5328176883_a4251ec663_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5085/5328789514_b0f4a0576e_z.jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/5328179835_b740971668_z.jpg
My Tom Anderson Hollow T... sometimes called the Anderson Rosewood Tele. Here's the spec sheet for mine from the Anderson web site. Bought it from a great guy in Florida a few years back.
Model - Hollow T Classic
Body Finish - Natural with Brown Back
Body Wood - Rosewood Top on Alder for HTC
Neck Wood - Rosewood, Rosewood Fretboard
Neck Finish - Gloss Headstock, Satin Back
Nutwidth - 1 5/8 in
Frets - Heavy
Back Shape - '62 Roundback
Hardware - Chrome
Bridge - Non-Tremolo Fixed Bridge
Pickguard - Black
Pickups - TV1 TV3
Switching - 3 Way with Vintage Voicing on all
Strings - .010-.046 Elixir strings
midnightblu January 26th, 2011, 02:00 PM Just got this Dillion (Can.) DRT-69 "Rosie" last week, from JSD`s Guitar Shack. They were clearing them out at $200 off the reg. price and had one left, so I jumped in head first, not really being sure of what I`d receive...
I`m in love
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu245/midnightblu_photos/My%20Guitars/Dillion%20DRT-69%20Rosie/P1000066.jpg
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu245/midnightblu_photos/My%20Guitars/Dillion%20DRT-69%20Rosie/P1000049_adj01-1.jpg
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http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu245/midnightblu_photos/My%20Guitars/Dillion%20DRT-69%20Rosie/P10000541.jpg
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu245/midnightblu_photos/My%20Guitars/Dillion%20DRT-69%20Rosie/P1000064-1.jpg
LGOberean February 10th, 2011, 08:30 PM Another Dillion Rosie? I gotta check this out...
midnightblu February 13th, 2011, 03:08 PM Another Dillion Rosie? I gotta check this out...
As I understand it the Dillion (Can.) DRT-69 may have been discontinued, but if you do find one I think you`ll be pleasantly suprised. ( Btw, going by the pics I`ve seen on the Dillion US site and elsewhere, the US rosewood model is not the same guitar)
LGOberean February 15th, 2011, 10:17 PM Hmmm...checked a few places online. I haven't read that it's discontinued, but it seems to be out of stock wherever I look.
BMusic September 6th, 2011, 07:10 PM I wasn't in the market for an additional guitar, but for some reason I was thinking about George's Tele from the rooftop and found myself a-Googling. I came across an old posting for Napawino's CS, wherein he was asking $3100.
For some reason, I inquired. Was I prepared to spend over 3k for a guitar I was merely curious about? It doesn't matter, because as soon as he wrote back and said it was already gone, I was ON THE HUNT.
And now there's a MIJ on its way to me from Las Vegas. Tomorrow is NGD.
Do I understand correctly that it's only the CIJ's and MIM's that are veneer? If it says "Made in Japan" on the back, it's full rosewood, right? Is there any foolproof way of telling what my new baby is made of?
dirge59 September 6th, 2011, 07:33 PM If you have the maple sandwich and all rosewood neck, you are fine....
djangoRobinson September 7th, 2011, 02:46 AM Here's a picture of the body I just had made. Two pieces of rosewood joined down the centre, no maple. I'll post a picture when I get it all assembled.
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee319/Raventtt56t/Image003_edited.jpg
djangoRobinson September 13th, 2011, 11:18 AM http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee319/Raventtt56t/Photo003-1.jpg
Music Mike October 2nd, 2011, 02:41 PM I just bought a Fender Rosewood MIJ from a guy here in Sweden. He bought it new in Kobi 1987 (I think it's built 1986). It's been hangin' on his wall most of the time, so it looks beautiful! And it sounds and feels great! Always wanted one because of the way they look, and because of George Harrison, of course. But they way it sounds really blows me away!
The best thing about it was the price; 9000 SEK - approximately 1200$! He had to sell it, (moving to Thailand). Lucky me!
Thinking of replacing the pickups, but I actually like the sound of 'em. So I think they'll stay.
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x435/Mike_Bike/IMG_2257.jpg
http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x435/Mike_Bike/IMG_2263.jpg
mr newhaven October 15th, 2011, 05:25 PM Music Mike!
Great find and an even better price!!
Congrats!
midnightblu November 30th, 2011, 08:14 AM Just a better full length shot of my Dillion DRT-69 Rosewood. Yup that`s the model name...DRT-69...Dirty-69...anyway I know her as Dirty Rosie...lol
http://i652.photobucket.com/albums/uu245/midnightblu_photos/P1000747-2.jpg
calvin006 March 13th, 2012, 09:54 PM I hope to soon be the owner of a fine rosewood Tele, and in my obsessive internet searching, I found an interesting website. I thought I would post it here. The site is in Japanese, but Google Translate does a good enough job so you can still get something out of it (the links I provide are to the translated pages). Basically, it looks at 7 rosewood Teles in detail. Four are from the original run, and those are compared here (http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geocities.jp%2Fe08120%2FALLROSE %2Fallrose.html). Three are CS reissues compared here (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.geocities.jp/e08120/ALLROSE/allrose-2.html&usg=ALkJrhhVrWpTk7JktNlryS7CvvhLSGYeeQ). Finally, there is also a chart (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ja&tl=en&twu=1&u=http://www.geocities.jp/e08120/ALLROSE/allrose-3.html&usg=ALkJrhj1suQudXgiMrjZSi77iyqLbDwCag) for quick comparison on measurements and other data.
I thought it was interesting to visually compare the wood color and grain. You can really see the difference between the Brazilian rosewood of the originals and the Indian rosewood of the CS reissues. Also, aside from one outlier that weighs 9.6 lbs, the rest weigh between 8 and 9 lbs. This seems like a very manageable weight, in contrast to the often heard complaint that these are too heavy.
LGOberean March 19th, 2012, 11:57 AM Thanks for posting that. It is interesting, and helpful, to be able to compare wood colors and grains of the different Rosewoods.
calvin006 April 22nd, 2012, 09:34 PM Got myself a rosewood tele a few weeks ago. I wanted to share it with you all here:
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05060.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05064.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05065.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05062.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05058.jpg
http://i703.photobucket.com/albums/ww37/gregabate_bucket/TL69-115/DSC05057.jpg
This one is made in Japan, but it has a JV serial number, making it pretty rare. It's got a nitro finish, too, as opposed to the poly on the later MIJ ones. The JV Fenders are something special (go to 21frets.com (http://www.21frets.com) if you don't know about them), and this is no exception. Great looking, playing, and sounding guitar.
AjayTele May 5th, 2012, 11:52 PM Yes, that's a nice one and rare. Interesting also, because the later MIJs had a six saddle bridge.
whitecat May 6th, 2012, 06:53 AM Got myself a rosewood tele a few weeks ago. I wanted to share it with you all here:
This one is made in Japan, but it has a JV serial number, making it pretty rare. It's got a nitro finish, too, as opposed to the poly on the later MIJ ones.
weird - I've never ever heard of a nitro finished guitar from Fender Japan, not of any type.
calvin006 May 7th, 2012, 12:42 PM @Ajay, yeah, if I threw some steel saddles on there, it would be even closer to the original spec.
@whitecat, The high end JV models made from April '82 to early '84 had nitro finishes. After that I think a few high end models continued to be offered in nitro, but I'm not certain.
LGOberean May 11th, 2012, 12:56 AM Now that would be sweet to have! A Rosewood Tele with a nitro finish. :mrgreen:
AjayTele January 7th, 2013, 09:42 AM Hi everyone. I haven't been on the forum for a long time... and in that period, my photo hosting site went belly up, so that's why all my previous photos have disappeared.
So I guess it might be worth posting up a few replacement photos...
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/AjayTele/Telecasters/RosewoodForest_zpsc13bc0d7.jpg
Actually that photo is out of date now. One of the MIJ Rosewoods has gone to a new home. In it's place is one of the new Rosewood Veneer 60th Anniversary "Telebration" Teles.
doster January 7th, 2013, 06:41 PM Glad to see you back, what do you think of the telebration?
LGOberean January 10th, 2013, 05:46 PM Thanks for posting replacement pics. This Rosewood thread needs your knowledge, experience...and pics! :wink:
Brian J. January 10th, 2013, 07:16 PM god, i love rosewood teles, you guys sure know how to hurt a guy.
AjayTele January 11th, 2013, 07:20 PM The Telebration isn't really a Rosewood other than the body looks like one (sort of). It's basically a standard Tele. Nice guitar of course, but not the same!
For anyone who is interested, I am now going to sell one of my 1969 original USA Rosewood Teles (pic below). I don't really need to have 2 and I need the money to buy another kind of rare tele.
http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af11/AjayTele/Telecasters/Fender%20USA/Fender1969RosewoodTele_14.jpg
If you are interested in the Rosewood, PM me. For those outside Australia, be aware that international shipping charges and insurance would be very expensive, so it might not be worthwhile.
LGOberean January 14th, 2013, 05:07 AM You know when Brian said you know how to hurt a guy? Well, AjayTele, you know how to tempt a fellow Tele lover! :twisted:
Kidding (kind of). :wink: I know you're right, international shipping + insurance would put me out of the running. Shoot, the price alone probably would. Not saying you'd overcharge, just saying it's worth more than I could pay. But still, to own an original '69 Rosewood Tele... :mrgreen:
AjayTele January 14th, 2013, 05:56 AM Yeah, sorry Larry. The real ones are not that common and I paid a decent amount for it, so I'd like to try and cover that! Fortunately, I didn't pay stupid money for it originally however.
LGOberean January 27th, 2013, 06:18 AM Sorry, just now checking back in on this thread.
Just to make sure you know, I wasn't fishing around for some bargain basement price. My previous post was not a bartering technique. Just thinking out loud, and just wishing and GASing, I guess...sigh :neutral:
Jake D February 12th, 2013, 12:41 PM Have any of you purchased a solid rosewood neck from Warmoth?
I can't stop looking at them on-line.
If you did get one of these Warmoth necks, please let me know what you think.
I am particularly interested to know if you decided to finish any part of it. Also, how did you find the fret installation on a Warmoth neck? Did it need any leveling? How was the nut? Did you get a white or black nut? How is the feel of the bare rosewood neck? And can you post pics of the neck?
LGOberean February 24th, 2013, 07:39 PM I tried finding the neck you mentioned on the Warmoth site, couldn't find it. A little help, please?
rebelwoclue March 14th, 2013, 01:47 PM Sorry, just now checking back in on this thread.
Just to make sure you know, I wasn't fishing around for some bargain basement price. My previous post was not a bartering technique. Just thinking out loud, and just wishing and GASing, I guess...sigh :neutral:
I can't afford a '69 either Larry. However, I am waiting on a Telebration Rosewood Lite- couldn't help myself- found it on sale- brand new!:razz:
hwy145 March 15th, 2013, 03:16 PM Love it!
rebelwoclue March 16th, 2013, 04:52 AM Yummy!
rebelwoclue March 18th, 2013, 06:34 PM http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w470/rebelwithoutaclue/IMG_0762_zpsfccfef0a.jpg
Just picked up the RW Tele Lite and the ext. cab for the Greta- sounds just like a Fender should together! Those '62 pups sound really nice- lots of twang.:razz:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w470/rebelwithoutaclue/IMG_0769_zpsbf8f8c21.jpg
boris bubbanov March 18th, 2013, 11:45 PM I have to ask: what's the point to this guitar body? (It's in the Warmoth stock):
http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/images/bodies/large/PT1496B.jpg
http://www.warmoth.com/Showcase/images/bodies/large/PT1496D.jpg
As you can see, it's a four piece rosewood body with a rosewood veneer. Why? If you want the heft and warm tone, I think a mahogany body will deliver that, for less bucks. Who's going to see the back besides you?
What if you had some end cuts, and the middle pieces are actually just on the ends, not in the middle. I.e., 6 pieces, then with caps front and back.
Could be cheaper, and would be light enough to use?
Maybe not here, but possible, no?
LGOberean March 30th, 2013, 03:20 PM I can't afford a '69 either Larry. However, I am waiting on a Telebration Rosewood Lite- couldn't help myself- found it on sale- brand new!:razz:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w470/rebelwithoutaclue/IMG_0762_zpsfccfef0a.jpg
Just picked up the RW Tele Lite and the ext. cab for the Greta- sounds just like a Fender should together! Those '62 pups sound really nice- lots of twang.:razz:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w470/rebelwithoutaclue/IMG_0769_zpsbf8f8c21.jpg
Sorry, Randy, didn't see your post until now. She's a beauty!
rebelwoclue April 1st, 2013, 07:37 AM Thanks Larry. She's a keeper!
LGOberean April 1st, 2013, 09:19 PM You're amassing quite the collection, Randy. :mrgreen:
Do you have a new family shot out, or on the horizon?
rebelwoclue April 3rd, 2013, 10:08 AM You're amassing quite the collection, Randy. :mrgreen:
Do you have a new family shot out, or on the horizon?
Thanks Larry,
Yes- I am taking a new shot today- just got a new mim Cab yesterday that I found on sale to put in the family photo!:smile:
http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w470/rebelwithoutaclue/IMG_0800_zpsc7e56e1a.jpg
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