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Tiny Terror Owner's Club

AngelStrummer
June 15th, 2009, 06:48 AM
I bought mine in 2007, with the PPC112 cabinet (Celestion Vintage 30).

I'm lovin' it!

Chime in guys and gals!

Carzee
June 15th, 2009, 07:00 AM
I brought one a year ago.

Portable! Well, that was the idea -the boys would take it in mum's taxi with a 1x12. But the little PPC112 was sold off after I tried a PPC212 and liked the Tiny Terror sound. It has the same speakers -identical- as my Supersonic 2x12 cab (for a lot less dollars).

Keithspalding
July 4th, 2009, 03:00 AM
Hey Guys, no Tiny Terror club? well I am going to start one!
My AC30 is getting too heavy (I am very old!!!) so needed a light weight
set up and got a Tiny Terror with a 1x12 Laney cab.

Play Blues and Brit Rock

Surprise Surprise

Sound is amazing! use at 7 watt for practice and 15 gigging
Still use the AC30 for big gigs but the Orange for everything else

Anyone out there got a Tiny Terror?

Tlon
July 6th, 2009, 11:23 PM
Not yet, but I'm on the lookout for one. I just bought a used American Standard Tele and the person I bought it from had a Tiny Terror. It was amazing. Might even have sold the guitar. Hope to join the club soon.

bfgz
July 10th, 2009, 02:23 PM
I love my little Tiny Terror and PPC112 Cabinet. I run it together with my DRRI through a Morley ABY switch. Sweet combination of tones :wink:

I would eventually like to get a PPC212 for it.
This Tiny Terror is a (MIK) made in Korea Model.

An Orange and a Tele.........Hey Jimmy Page liked it!!!

AngelStrummer
July 13th, 2009, 06:31 AM
[QUOTE=bfgz;1932421]

I would eventually like to get a PPC212 for it.
QUOTE]

Why don't you just get another PPC112 and either daisy chain it or run it in parallel?

bfgz
July 14th, 2009, 12:08 AM
[QUOTE=bfgz;1932421]

I would eventually like to get a PPC212 for it.
QUOTE]

Why don't you just get another PPC112 and either daisy chain it or run it in parallel?

I could do that as well.......so many options......I guess i will see what pops up first since i don't like to pay "new prices" and there is always good used gear available! :grin:

milospilo
July 14th, 2009, 06:08 PM
I have a MIK Tiny Terror that I use for nearly all my gigs (no matter what kind of music) running through an old Marshall 2x12. It's plenty loud enough and one of the most responsive amps I've ever used.
Hooray for amps that look like toasters!

bfgz
July 14th, 2009, 06:23 PM
I have a MIK Tiny Terror that I use for nearly all my gigs (no matter what kind of music) running through an old Marshall 2x12. It's plenty loud enough and one of the most responsive amps I've ever used.
Hooray for amps that look like toasters!

Yes they do have terrific sensitivity and character. Truly one of the most versatile and simple small amps around...........probably would make good toast too!

bfgz
July 15th, 2009, 12:40 AM
Hey Guys, no Tiny Terror club? well I am going to start one!
My AC30 is getting too heavy (I am very old!!!) so needed a light weight
set up and got a Tiny Terror with a 1x12 Laney cab.

Play Blues and Brit Rock

Surprise Surprise

Sound is amazing! use at 7 watt for practice and 15 gigging
Still use the AC30 for big gigs but the Orange for everything else

Anyone out there got a Tiny Terror?

I do!

FYI
There is a TT Club that was started on June 15th on this page that i already joined. I guess i could join this one or we can merge???

AngelStrummer
July 15th, 2009, 05:48 AM
I do!

FYI
There is a TT Club that was started on June 15th on this page that i already joined. I guess i could join this one or we can merge???

Good idea, although how do you merge posts :confused:

bfgz
July 15th, 2009, 07:51 AM
Good idea, although how do you merge posts :confused:
I believe that one of the Moderators would have to do it. I'm not sure beyond that?

booncrusher2000
July 15th, 2009, 12:07 PM
gas pains !!! between the vox night train and the tinny terror i am going to broke again
i love the response these little amps have they really have that ''orange splatt'' that sounds so cool like sabbath or wolfmother and i really dig that tone too...yep i want one ..i can hear it honking now through a pair of vintage 30's.it's on my list of small heads collection !!is the dual terror out yet??.........oh no not another!!!!

bfgz
July 15th, 2009, 01:59 PM
I have seen ads for the Dual Terror and I'm sure they will be terrific like all the other Orange products. I think they will fill a niche quite nicely.

I have yet to see one in the stores that i could play with. It won't be long.:wink:

AngelStrummer
July 16th, 2009, 05:02 AM
I believe that one of the Moderators would have to do it. I'm not sure beyond that?

Looks to me like one of our fine modertaors just has. Thanks Mr Moderator :cool:

[You're welcome. :wink: ]

Keithspalding
August 16th, 2009, 05:19 AM
I got mine a few months ago. Amazing sound bets amp ever.

whitemtntn
August 18th, 2009, 03:18 PM
I've been a TinyMan since 2007. Mine is Julemodded and played thru 2x12 with Cel. Blues.
It is the extreme opposite of awful.

Michael Bolt-on
February 13th, 2010, 01:08 AM
Got mine a coupla months ago, and I can't deny it, there isn't another amp out there really like this. Sure, wattage, size, type, etc.....but not with as thick and tasty an overdrive as this. Not THE best cleans, but you can dial in pretty good cleans, great cleanish, and unparalleled dirty-ness for this type of amp, IMO. For what I do, and need, I'm in love lol!!!
I lucked into a great deal on my cab, a Blackheart BH112 cab which I"m quite happy with, but out of curiosity, is the Orange PPC112 noticably better? Never tried one personally.

johnreardon
February 13th, 2010, 05:18 AM
I have both a TT and one of the bigger Dual Terrors. Both are great amps. I also have a PPC112, but don't use it much, preferring to use a cab with a Celestion Gold installed.

blee
April 14th, 2010, 09:34 AM
I love my Tiny Terror! PLENTY loud enough for any gigs I've been playing. In fact, I'm kinda bummed I never get to turn the volume past 1 o'clock. Usually put everything ~ 12 o'clock on the 15W setting.

I love the responsiveness. Using that one setting can still get me plenty of sounds. High arpeggios sound pretty clean, while wailin' on power chords gets you a moderate amount of dirt (the way I like it!). It cleans up super nice with a turn of the volume knob on my Tele (what else?) too.

The only problem is that I never actually tried a Vox Night Train. I'm kinda scared to now...what if I like that one better??

Also I wish it were lighter. The Dual Terror must feel like a brick. I like the "so ugly it looks cool" aesthetic too.

Blank
May 7th, 2010, 02:10 AM
I play jazz with the tiny terror....

delicious.

tdu
June 12th, 2010, 09:46 AM
Just joined the club! I was trying to decide between the TT and the Night Train. I play with crunch 90% of the time though, and I have read that's what the TT does really well so I went for it. I bought it for $300 off Kijiji, and found Avatar 112 cab (Helletone 60 on it) for $175 the next day. So the whole rig was around $500, which is great. I'd like to get one of the matching Orange cabs, but I can 'settle' for the Avatar at the price I paid for it. It's got a great, deep sound to it.

The other band at our jam space keep 2 4x12 Mesa cabinets there, so I plugged to TT into one of those last night to jam. Holy power. We play some pretty loud heavy Rock n' Roll, and I only had the amp on about 4 in the 15 watt mode.

I still have a lot of playing around with my various guitars and the amp, but so far I am really impressed. It's so nice to just stick it in it's case and carry it and a guitar to practice. Can't get much lighter weight than that.

My only question to everyone is what have you guys done tube wise? Mine is a Korean model, but doesn't have JJ's. It has the unbranded tubes that just say "Orange" on them. The amp sounds good, but I have a strong feeling some better tubes would sweeten it up a little more. It does have a little bit of 'fizziness' at high volume/high gain.

tdu
June 27th, 2010, 07:21 AM
I used this amp for 2 gigs since last post, one being an outdoor gig, and I am LOVING the amp. I ended up putting JJ EL84 power tubes, and Tung-sol preamp tubes in it. They made a huge difference in the sound of the amp. It sounded good before, but I found the gain kind of 'fizzy' sounding. The tube change totally solved that problem and just seemed to make the amp more responsive in general.

It was a treat to crank it at the outdoor gig. The amp really shines at high volumes like that. Even in our jam space I hadn't had it much past 4.

dougc
June 29th, 2010, 06:26 PM
I played a TT combo last week and could not get past the sound--smooth and crunchy! So, I traded a Peavey Classic 30 and a Gretsch Electromatic that I didn't play and brought home the combo. Fantastic amp! I love that you can turn the amp up and control the overdrive with the guitar volume.

Louis D
January 20th, 2011, 09:18 PM
Checking in the Tiny Terror club! I got mine in November and following some advice from fellow posters, will be switching out the tubes to refine the sound a bit.

I'm not extremely knowledgable about tubes and such but might be looking to add just a little bit of "clean" head room to it. This would come from the type of preamp tubes I put in it, right? Any suggestions for this.

Cheesehead
February 4th, 2011, 09:18 AM
Joining the TT club. Got a combo a few months ago and love it. I also own a 65 DRRI so I have a nice combination of amps for clean and dirty...

Axis29
March 25th, 2011, 11:41 AM
Just Joined the other day.... Picked up the Tiny Terror Head off ZZSounds (used the pay while you play plan... great service from ZZ Sounds, by the way). It was a 're-box' special. Couldn't be more pleased!

Don't have a cab yet (been playing iwht a long 1/4" mono-to-two-alligator-clips cord I made for testing speakers). I have no idea what I want in a cabinet/speaker combination.

I will say this does fill my Marshal grind fix! It's a fun little amp so far! Very usable volume and I love the idea of a head I can try with different speaker cabs and such.

milospilo
April 27th, 2011, 08:56 AM
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww78/milospilo/TinyTerror.jpg

Just thought I'd post a pic of my 'toaster' at work. Sorry about the beer'n'ciggies that are ruining the aesthetic.

NickWebb
July 1st, 2011, 03:48 AM
Whoops, sorry....posted about my TT in the Orange Amp thread, didn't notice this Tiny Terror specific thread.

Anyway, brilliant sounding amp. And I still smile to myself when loading it into the car, soooo much lighter than the long gone Fender Twin :!:

This bumps Orange Amps to the TOP if even for a short while :lol:

Mike_LA
October 6th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Wow, no new members since July?

Well count me in, and give me that crunch that my trusty Blues Junior can't match . . .

JHall55
November 16th, 2011, 12:15 PM
I've had mine for about 10 months. I don't play it a ton, but it's size/weight make it super handy. I play it through a Orange 112, or my Marshall 1960av, depending on when and where.

sax4blues
November 16th, 2011, 12:32 PM
I have always wanted the Orange sound and finally got my TT this year in September. I play it in a blues/rock band and I don't use any effects, just guitar & amp. I do want to find a 4x12 to borrow just to hear how that sounds.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/sax4blues/Guitar%20Rig/IMG_0350.jpg

Here's the full rig. I only use the pedal board with the Mesa.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g259/sax4blues/Guitar%20Rig/IMG_0359.jpg

Esaaal
November 16th, 2011, 02:26 PM
is the TT foot switchable?

CAAD8N8
November 17th, 2011, 07:47 AM
is the TT foot switchable?

I don't believe so. Just one channel, so nothing to switch.

JHall55
November 18th, 2011, 10:39 AM
is the TT foot switchable?

No, but they do make a Dual Terror that is essentially the same amp with two channels.

Zenzeypher
December 7th, 2011, 12:28 PM
Love it, got it the other day!!

Minky
December 10th, 2011, 01:21 PM
I got mine about a month ago.
I absolutely love it.

I'm thinking about putting new tubes in. But I'm not sure what make yet.

Through a 1x12 cab I can't hear much difference between the 7 and 15 watt settings. Am I missing something?

Captain Bb
December 22nd, 2011, 04:16 PM
Just restored an old ADA 2x12 upright cab and got a Dual Terror to top it off. This is great rig and I'm having lots of fun:

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc209/gelliot2/orange03.jpg

tdu
December 22nd, 2011, 04:38 PM
Still jamming and gigging with mine on a regular basis.

Here's some video of it at a past show. It's run into a Mesa 4x12 cab the previous band had setup. It's not mic'd through the PA, and this is a fair sized room. So you can get an idea of how loud these can get. And it's not even near cranked.

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gndboy
December 31st, 2011, 01:45 AM
I bought my TT early 2009 in Chicago. I liked the concept so well I put all different tubes in it. I got a NOS matched pair of GE 6BQ5 finals, and a good used Mullard for the first preamp place, and a NOS Sylvania organ tube for the second preamp place. Instant improvement. I do not like the Chinese tubes, and also I do not like the JJ's.

When dimed, the good tubes made little difference, but at moderate, studio levels the good tubes really make this box sing so much nicer than with the stock bottles. This is an excellent studio amp; much nicer than any Mesa. I also got hold of an 18-volt bulb of the correct thread which makes the pilot light very much less dazzling.

I play it through a Jenkins Sound open-back cabinet that began life as a 1X15 with dimensions similar to the old Supro Thunderbolt; I made a faux 12" adapter and installed an eight-ohm Celestion 60-watt whatever. Very nice. This is a very good-sounding amp.

cunfewzed
January 2nd, 2012, 10:16 PM
Just purchased mine tonight! This is a huge step for me because there are no Orange dealers in NE Ohio, so bought the TT Combo (12" Celestion) on rep alone. I've wanted an Orange for as long as i can remember!

It'll be here in a few days. Same night, I went ahead and ordered a re-tube after all of the things that I've read. Sticking with stock power section, but the pre-amp is being changed. I've decided to add headroom and reduce gain (like most).

Here's what I've ordered:
The Amp Doctor 7025(S) 12ax7 and a JAN Phillips 5751 (NOS).

These tubes will most definitely brighten the tone and reduce gain. Can't wait to get her!

Bigdawg
February 9th, 2012, 11:26 AM
just a quicky is the TT 'self biasing' like a mesa or does it need biasing after a tube swap??

fatcat
May 27th, 2012, 10:22 PM
couldnt resist the guitar center sale.

fatcat
June 10th, 2012, 11:55 PM
anyone try one of those brittish invasion re-tube kits from the tube store?

whiskerBox
June 28th, 2012, 09:09 AM
132541

Got a TT combo awhile back for the apartment and just fell in love.

CarbonToe
July 3rd, 2012, 10:15 AM
I started up with a TT 12" Combo about a year ago. Loved it to bits, amlost my perfect amp.

Replaced her with a second hand Hard Wired Edition when I managed to pick one up for £300 ($480) in my LGS and then managed to sell my Combo for more than £50 over the new price of a PPC112 :grin:

Hard to talk comparisons as I went from the open back combo to the HW head running through a closed back PPC112 but I would say it's a slightly more responsive and there is a little more chime/character in the background.

reverbbb
July 6th, 2012, 06:12 PM
I have a Rocker 30 Combo and love it. It is my only amp that I gig with. Oddly, I am SOOO much a Marshall guy. But all my Marshall amps stay at home.

I once bought a TT12C. I liked it a lot, but was wanting to get my money back out it, so I sold it. But then about 4 months ago, I started wanting another one. I'll be danged if patience didn't pay off. I found another TT12C at a ridiculous price.

Now I am set again with a R30C and TT12C. Last week, I used the TT12C for two gigs where I wanted lower volume. Just what the doctor ordered.

I still love my Marshall amps. Just I wanted that sound in a smaller footprint. The TT12C & R30C do the trick. Plus, they have that hideous orange tolex that grabs everyone's attention.

gndboy
September 30th, 2012, 12:55 AM
Howdy y'all - All along, I had been playing my TT through a Hellatone 30 (slightly modified Celestion G12H30 from Avatar) in an open-back cabinet. For a different project I put together a similar cabinet loaded with a 65W Weber Legacy 16-ohm 12" driver. Through the Weber, my TT sounded like a different amp (good). Tighter lows, punchier mids, pretty pretty highs, and a ton more headroom. I guess the Hellatone breaks up really early. So this is good news.

I'm glad I stuck with my Tiny Terror.

gndboy
September 30th, 2012, 01:43 AM
I forgot to mention in the previous post, to whomever was asking, yes, the TT power tubes are cathode biased so one can put any matched pair in the amp with confidence.

Pardon my slowness. I recently discovered (after four years) that the Volume control can easily cause the output tubes to overdrive at any setting above about three o'clock. Therefore, it seems the best clean headroom should be found with that control positioned as above. I tried it, and it works. I get a much better clean (or kinda-clean) sound with the Volume set around two or three o'clock and the Gain adjusted to suit. It's a good sort of nasty, snarling clean rhythm sound on the Tele bridge PU and the tone opened just a tiny bit.

tdu
September 30th, 2012, 09:00 AM
Howdy y'all - All along, I had been playing my TT through a Hellatone 30 (slightly modified Celestion G12H30 from Avatar) in an open-back cabinet. For a different project I put together a similar cabinet loaded with a 65W Weber Legacy 16-ohm 12" driver. Through the Weber, my TT sounded like a different amp (good). Tighter lows, punchier mids, pretty pretty highs, and a ton more headroom. I guess the Hellatone breaks up really early. So this is good news.

I'm glad I stuck with my Tiny Terror.

That's the same speaker I use with mine. I find a used Avatar cabinet the same day I found the used Tiny Terror. They just happened to be a great match.

studio1087
October 11th, 2012, 10:11 AM
Love the new toaster. Crunchy toast.

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/johnlg-2006/OrangeTeleClosesmall.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/johnlg-2006/OrangeTele4x12Bsmall.jpg

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/johnlg-2006/OrangeLoposmall.jpg

gndboy
October 17th, 2012, 09:03 AM
Progress - My TT is now graced with some different tubes. I got a matched pair of Sovtek EL84 output tubes and a JAN Phillips 5751 for V1. I had a new Svetlana 12AX7 that got put in the driver/phase inverter V2 socket. Along with the Weber 65-watt speaker, this amp is sounding much better for cleans and OD'ed sorta cleans. The drive control can now be set to eleven o'clock with very little breakup, and the tone control functions over a wider range. I still want to try a 12AT7at V2.

On some of the amp 'sites, I've read the TT runs the plates on the output tubes quite hot and that the tubes tend not to last. That was my experience, unfortunately with a rather pricey pair of NOS GE 6BQ5's that lasted about three years of pretty easy studio playing and practice before one of them had its plate glow red. The new Sovteks actually sound very good to me as the amp is currently configured, and they are dirt cheap to boot. I am blown away how much cleaner and punchier the 65-watt Weber is in comparison to the Hellatone 30. The very first time I heard a band using Orange gear was Wishbone Ash in '71. They all used the 200-watt heads and those amps could flat out roar with clean tone. It's probably kinda odd going for loud clean with a TT, but that's just me. This amp is getting very close. Cheers!

Bigdawg
October 17th, 2012, 09:44 AM
what do the Sovteks do withthe sound of the TT?? - I put two 12ax7 sovteks in mine and the clarity is great, the 12at7 (mullard) quietened it down a bit too much.

Ive been reading a lot about valves in the TT, the early expiry of them is caused by the voltages being run by the TT - I cant remember the exact figures butthe TT internally runs at about 350v and most valves are only built to withstand 250...

gndboy
October 17th, 2012, 10:40 AM
G'morning Bigdawg - I've never tried the Sovtek 12AX7's in my TT; I have used them in other amps and I also have a couple of 'em in A.R.T. TubePac boxes where they function just fine. The Sovtek EL84's have a smooth midrange feel and sweet highs and tight lows up to and including moderate overdrive. Actually, my TT sounds kinda chimey (heresy!) as currently configured. With the volume much over three o'clock and the gain up moderately the Sovteks start to clip pretty hard and sound a bit spikey and harsh to me. We'll see how they last in the TT; probably not much different from other brands. Next power tube change I'll likely try another current-production brand just to see how they play. I had JJ's for a short while in a Traynor 15-watt combo several years ago and I seriously disliked them, but they may sound fine in a TT. Only one way to find out. Others here seem to really like them. I ordered a pair of JAN Phillips 12AT7 tubes to try at V2 phase inverter/driver, and I have a '60's-vintage RCA 12AX7 in good shape, so for now my TT is living topless to facilitate all this tube swapping!

Bigdawg
October 17th, 2012, 11:01 AM
Was going to try Groove Tubes EL84s in there next but no one seems to be able to confirm the plate voltage of them to me - Im after a more vintage sound with TT, but don't wan't to put something in thats going to blow in a couple of months as its my main gigging amp too

gndboy
October 17th, 2012, 01:48 PM
If you haven't done so, you may want to check the reviews of these tubes at The Tube Store website. The JJ's get high marks for reliability and longevity, but mainly from a mechanical/heat standpoint.

What do you use for speaker(s) when gigging your TT?

Bigdawg
October 18th, 2012, 05:45 AM
Im not a fan of the JJ's - and I also found out that they're basically other peoples tubes that are just rebranded JJ's, so the JJ's I buy in the UK may be very different to the ones you can get..

I play through a laney lionheart 2x12 cab fitted with a G12h (heritage) and an original G12m, sounds fantastic...

gndboy
October 18th, 2012, 10:37 PM
That Lionheart is a good-looking cabinet. I like the tilt bail!

While waiting for the JAN Phillips 12AT7 to arrive, I played with a couple different 12AX7's at V2. A JAN Phillips ECG there makes the amp very bright with the 5751 at V1. A Svetlana at V2 is darker, but still a bit bright for me. The 12AT7 is supposed to be a darker-sounding device, so we'll see. I should have the new tube tomorrow or Saturday.

According to several internet tube dealers, the TT operates the output valves at nominal 320V on the plate and the control grid, similar to an AC30. This would explain why standard EL84's don't last in this circuit. Sovtek markets a military-type EL84 they designate EL84M, which is specified to exceed the 320V requirement. The marketing text states these tubes are a bit less warm sounding and offer more headroom than the standard Sovtek EL84's. Over here a matched pair costs $25 US, so I'll likely order a pair to play around with.

My TT sounds really nice with the 5751 at V1, much cleaner than with the stock bottles; now I'm just curious to see how loud I can make it play before the distortion becomes objectionable to my scorched ears! There is plenty of gain remaining to go for that Decapitation Fetish shred, with a Tele yet.

Spaceboy
October 19th, 2012, 02:16 AM
Got a TT coming this weekend. I'm hoping to replace a 50w EVH amp with it. Pairing it with an Orange 212 with the stock Vintage 30s.

Bigdawg
October 19th, 2012, 07:31 AM
Just been speakig to a few people about the sovtek EL84Ms - apparently dont go to well with green backs, become very pitchy. Id like to know what Orange have actually put in the TT to start with - Ive got the Hardwired version and aaprently theyre hand picked for that amp!

That lion heart cab is really good - very well made but still quite light, fully closed back, so really punchy, and as you say that tiltback is great, esp when Im noodling at home. I went through Mesa, orange and matamp cabs and chose this one.

Spaceboy the Orange cab is really good with the TT once those speakers are broken in - I saw so many people originally buying the TT and then getting rid of them without having broken inthe speakers sayig it didnt sound any good, broken in V30s are lovely speakers very well suited to the TT.

gndboy
October 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Bigdawg - The stock EL84's in my TT were Sino tubes. The stock preamp tubes in mine had no markings of any kind! They sounded OK - quite bright and detailed, but too much gain (for me). Thanks for the info on the EL84M's.

According to the schematic diagram found on the internet, there is a .0022uF cap associated with the tone control. If I cannot tame the brightness with a different PI tube, I'll likely try a slightly higher value at that cap. Hopefully it won't be necessary!

Also, thanks for the info regarding your selection of the Lionheart cab. Light weight, eh? Very interesting.

gndboy
October 19th, 2012, 09:42 PM
The 12AT7's arrived late this afternoon and I tried each one in the TT PI at V2. I couldn't tell any difference between them; they both really opened up the tone and made the amp sound yet a bit darker. Lower-pitch individual notes are quite piano-like with the Tele neck PU now, and the transition from clean to grind is smoother and occurs over a larger dynamic range, which is to say more gradual. Now I can adjust the amp for meaty lead tone with the guitar wide open, and roll back the volume for cleanish chording, which is exactly what I wanted. I'm going to leave the amp like this for the time being and see how long the Sovtek EL84's last. Cheers to one and all!

Spaceboy
October 20th, 2012, 11:36 AM
Got the TT today... not sure how I feel about, it sounds like a fuzz pedal more than a British flavored amp. I haven't been able to really crank it yet, so maybe that fuzziness dials out at higher volumes. It takes boosts well and seems like a great amp if that tone suits someone. I was surprise at the weight too.

gndboy
October 20th, 2012, 12:33 PM
Spaceboy - That's exactly why I've been fooling around with the different preamp tubes. Actually, my first clue was by happenstance plugging the TT into a speaker that doesn't break up so easily; trying to increase the headroom is pretty pointless when the speaker breaks up first. After that, experimenting with different tubes actually yielded some results. Now my TT sounds huge and can do some impressive cleans when I want it to, whereas my first impression was precisely the one you posted. Since each player is different, what I did may not appeal to many. The TT can do both decent cleans at pretty high volume, as well as the OD stuff depending on the speaker(s) and the tubes. Loud and clean isn't what a lot of folks are looking for, though. Congrats on the new amp - keep after it. Rock on!

Bigdawg
October 22nd, 2012, 05:01 AM
dont forget you can get pretty decent cleanup just using the guitar volume too...

Gnd where did you end up putting the 12AT7 - I think V1 is the preferred position as V2 is the phase Inverter (basically means it does more work)

Progbusters
October 22nd, 2012, 11:31 AM
Got the TT today... not sure how I feel about, it sounds like a fuzz pedal more than a British flavored amp. I haven't been able to really crank it yet, so maybe that fuzziness dials out at higher volumes. It takes boosts well and seems like a great amp if that tone suits someone. I was surprise at the weight too.

I had the same feeling. It also lacked treble. But I suspect that its what's to be expected not playing it loud at Guitar Center, which is what I did.

gndboy
October 22nd, 2012, 06:41 PM
Bd The final preamp tube lineup is:

V1) JAN Phillips 5751
V2) Jan Phillips 12AT7

The 5751 is a really nice-sounding tube in this amp, and with the 'AT7 gives some solid tight bass through a pair of 1X12 16-ohm open-back cabinets. I am very happy with my TT now. The tube dealer claims these JAN Phillips 5751's are quite close to 12AX7's in gain. Who knows? Anyhow, we'll see how all this holds up over time. I love the Orange growl lurking just beneath the surface in a rhythm track!

SFK
October 30th, 2012, 01:58 PM
Great little amps. I've had mine for almost 5 years and it's still the amp I play more than any. Perfect around the house amp.

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Spaceboy
November 17th, 2012, 04:02 PM
I've had almost a month with the Tiny Terror and it's grown on me big-time. It's a great little amp, and super simple which is great for me. I mostly play rock music, I keep the tone knob at noon and gain about 1-2 o'clock, adjust for loud volumes. The fuzzy sound is tamable if the gain is backed off and use a pedal to push it only slightly... using an EQ pedal at the moment.

It doesn't seem to do well with overdrives though... got a MXR clean boost coming in the mail but I think it may add too much bass. Anybody found a pedal, overdrive or clean boost that really works well with the Tiny Terror? If the MXR doesn't do the trick, I'm going to check out that RC Booster or TC Spark.

Bigdawg
November 19th, 2012, 05:04 AM
bit hefty but the blackstar boost is really good, also got a clone of a Zvex SHO, that works well too...

tdu
November 19th, 2012, 03:46 PM
I've had almost a month with the Tiny Terror and it's grown on me big-time. It's a great little amp, and super simple which is great for me. I mostly play rock music, I keep the tone knob at noon and gain about 1-2 o'clock, adjust for loud volumes. The fuzzy sound is tamable if the gain is backed off and use a pedal to push it only slightly... using an EQ pedal at the moment.

It doesn't seem to do well with overdrives though... got a MXR clean boost coming in the mail but I think it may add too much bass. Anybody found a pedal, overdrive or clean boost that really works well with the Tiny Terror? If the MXR doesn't do the trick, I'm going to check out that RC Booster or TC Spark.

I just use an EH LPB-1 with mine. Works well.

gndboy
December 3rd, 2012, 02:07 AM
I will repeat myself. Y'all really need to try the TT with other than a Celestion speaker. A Weber 12L is good, or most Eminence speakers. The current Celestions distort so soon with low power it's impossible to hear the amp at any useable volume, and tube swaps are pointless.

gndboy
December 25th, 2012, 12:05 AM
In addition to all the above, I tried (and kept) a pair of Sovtek EL84M's in the final. So now my TT is a JAN Phillips-ECG 5751, a JAN Phillips-ECG 12AT7, and the pair of Sovtek EL84M's. The amp has about as much headroom as the little transformers will allow, and has some serious clean chime. I was considering replacing the 2200uf cap in the tone circuit, but the 12AT7 sounds good in the stock circuit. This is about a hundred bucks in replacement tubes (I got mine from Tube Depot in Memphis); with the Weber 12L speaker, I am now happy with my TT.

evans_thinline
January 3rd, 2013, 09:14 PM
Hey Guys...i have a Tiny terror and soon i'll purchase a 1x12 cabinet...i love the oranges but there is the hiwatt and marshall styles there are beautiful too!! I would like to know your opinion...i'm not talking about the speaker, i'am still thinking about it, but i just wanted to share with you guys about the style of the cabinet....

So give your shot:

Marshall
Hiwatt
Orange

Thanks guys!!!

fatcat
January 5th, 2013, 04:39 PM
my cab is a closed back pine 1x12...

It was made by a guy that I found on e-bay. He is a carpenter, and guitar enthusiast.. He makes several styles; and all have dovetail joints.

For what it is, the cab was cheap; it came un-finished. It's dimensions are consistant with a Marshall style cab. I rubbed it with several layers of oil; and slaped on some fender feet and a handle. I used Marshall, Salt and Pepper, grille cloth.

It is loaded with a Celestion, 70th anniversary edition, G12h30.

The thing screams with the TT; Think very good classic arena rock. It does really good jazz too.

evans_thinline
January 7th, 2013, 08:58 PM
Thanks man!!!


I can imagine how the TT screams with this speaker...i was thinking about use a Vintage 30 and make the cabinet with a Marshall Style...

But i'm still thinking about it!!!

Thanks fot the infos!!!

cocoboudin
January 19th, 2013, 10:09 AM
In about a year from now that will be my next buy, the tinny terror whit 112 cabinet. Iv'e seen so much good comments about that amp, i also bought the micro terror that i found really amazing sounding amp and all the review and the comments i read that the tinny terror as more bottom and more bass response. Let's put it this way the micro terror sound amazing so the tinny sound even better, i'm saving up some money and in march next year i'l be able to enjoy it. Cocoboudin

gndboy
January 21st, 2013, 01:37 AM
It all really depends on the sound one is after. I happen not to like the Asian-manufactured Celestions, but the rest of the world disagrees with me on that point! A closed-back cabinet will give you some nice impact, especially with better tubes in the TT. An open- or semi-open-back cabinet will be louder and overall warmer, but without the slam. Either way it's a nice sound. For playing out I tend to prefer a closed-back cabinet because in my experience they are more uniform room to room. In the studio I prefer an open-back cabinet with all the texture and dynamics. That's just me.

The Sovtek EL84M's have become my fave in this amp for the finals. I am after a clean chimey sound, and many others will not care for my preferred sound. The EL84M's are squeaky clean and relatively HiFi in comparison to the regular Sovtek EL84's. The EL84M's are rated for the higher plate voltage and are operating within their specifications in the TT circuit. The JAN Phillips-ECG 5751 in V1 and the JAN Phillips 12AT7 in the PI work very well together, and the 12AT7 in particular tames the overly-bright tone control. The tone control is positioned in the phase-inverter/driver circuit in the TT.

For more crunch without brittleness I tried a Svetlana 12AX7A in V1 while leaving the other tubes in place. It rocks.

I bought a Vox AC4V112 cabinet and replaced the Asian-manufactured Celestion with a 16-ohm Eminence Swamp Thang for use as a closed-back cabinet. It'll take anything and it's pretty inexpensive even with the new driver.

gndboy
February 28th, 2013, 12:56 AM
After another month I am sold on the Sovtek EL84M finals. Very nice. I bought a 1X12 cabinet from LopoLine that is roughly the size of a Marshall Bluesbreaker combo and it sounds very nice with the Weber Legacy 12L. Semi-open back. This cabinet has the piping cosmetic details of Hiwatt, and I highly recommend it for the TT if one isn't going to use an Orange cabinet. My TT setup has become rather refined after all this thrashing about, and it is SO much better than stock. Having a bit of serious clean push makes the fifteen watts a lot more flexible. It'll still rip yer ears out.

Duncas
February 28th, 2013, 04:27 PM
Got mine,

12" combo. Celestion vintage 30.

BEAUTIFUL amp

flyingbanana
March 5th, 2013, 11:27 PM
Guess I'll be joining up soon. Just bought a 2 month old TT on CL for 250 clams. Deals are out there to be had gentlemen. :grin:

I'm curious how it'll sound with my Egnater 112 cab. I imagine I need something nicer....I would so love to grab a Mesa cab on the cheap. The guys selling those usually know the value though...tough to talk em down. :roll:

gndboy
March 15th, 2013, 01:53 AM
I would suggest a Weber Legacy 12L speaker in whichever cabinet you use with the TT. See above. It is possible to massively improve clean headroom with judicious choice of tubes without any other mods. Good luck! Ric

iDigTulsa
March 21st, 2013, 09:04 PM
I acquired my TT two years ago this coming April on a whim from a local Craigslist seller when he was looking to trade for an item I not only had, but also no longer needed. I am a lover of trades due to the same three reasons as most married men: New gear, no negative impact on the back account, no angry wife. From the get go I rarely used her as a stand alone amp, but instead preferred to run her in tandem with my AC-15 to provide a room filling mixture of dirt and chime. I've never been a huge fan of stand alone high gain "metal" tones, and am a sucker for a soaking wet reverb cuddled up next to my clean and overdriven tones. Not a huge win for Team Terror in the Thunderdome (That's what I call my music room...not really, but after today I just might see if it catches on with my wife and roll with it.)

I'm slightly embarrassed to admit that my TT received ZERO playtime for the last nine months. My wife and I moved into a MUCH smaller living arrangement briefly last summer and a majority of my gear (and other household items of far less importance) remained in storage. By the time we moved into our new home in November I had adapted my playing style to fit within the tonal limitations of my Bugera V5 and my collection of effects. I had grown so accustomed to small, boxy, but acceptable for what they are, tones of the V5 that I was slow to jump back into bed with my Orange lady.

I have spent the majority of my time during the last few months reuniting with my AC-15 and my Gibson Goldtone GA-5, running them through all of their stages of tonal bliss with my guitars that have been entombed alongside them for far too long (Dont worry, we researched extensively for a "proper" climate controlled storage facility, and non of my ladies were harmed by the changing seasons.)...all while the TT sat gracefully perched atop her closed back 2x12 without even so much as an attached power cord. She looked pretty, but not a sound did she make.

Now here we are in March, 2013. A few weeks back I completed some spring cleaning and "purged" eight pedals from my collection on Ebay. I also considered the amount of "new gear funds" I could also create by letting my Tiny, mute mistress move on to a new home. I realized instantly that I would have to take the proper steps and physically power her up to ensure that I was confidently selling a working amp.......plugged in the power cord, connected her to the cab and let the tubes warm up. While she was warming up I considered the fact that since her last session I had acquired a Vanamps Sole Mate, and knew that she was about to take her maiden voyage into the realm of true spring reverberations............It brought a smile to my face so big I felt like an actor in the Black Hole Sun video (if that reference escaped you, take a moment to check it out....and you will instantly realize just how happy spring reverb and my Tiny Terror made me.)

So there I sat....between a rock and a much harder rock. Do I unload her on The Bay or Crazylist to make funds for my Fender amp fund....or do I keep her power cord connected and let her join the party in the Thunderdome? (See...it just felt natural that time.) I did what any sane, music loving, gear obsessed man with a newly funded PayPal account would do....I went shopping. I completed countless hours of research with my buddy Google trying to narrow down the best possible tube combination for "the tone" I was hoping to squeeze out of my Orange. I opted to treat it as an investment, much like all my gear purchases, knowing that if all else failed I would be increasing the perceived or actual value of my amp if sold.

Fast forward to this week....I cautiously removed her custom built clothes, gently pulled her top off, and exposed then extracted the nameless, bare bottles of unknown origin that provided her the "voice of the world." She then received a NOS JAN 5751, a NOS Mullard 12at7 (cv4024) and a matched pair of JJ's in the power section.

She's currently still topless....blowing my mind with her tonal variations and breathing new life into the set of WGS Veteran 30's shes plugged into and subsequently my entire playing in general. She's still my Orange mistress, you can tell she's a Tiny Terror on the outside....but her cleans are truly a sound to fall in love with, her crunch is perfected, her harmonics are rich and her acceptance of reverb is nothing short of magical.

Short story long, she's not currently a Tiny Terror that some would find appealing, but she's certainly not an amp that I would consider selling anymore.