American Idol??????

No love for Idol this year? Seems like in the past, there has been a lot of talk about the show and, unless I've missed it, no one has posted about it so far this year.....

So, let's start it off.....

What about the new format for elimination?
What about the new judge? (Whoever she is???)
Will Seacrest and Cowell actually come to blows before the show is over?

Who are the front-runners so far this year? ( I gotta go with the 16 year old red head who sang Heart's "Alone"; man, what a voice.)

Whatda think????

I don't even watch it untill the top twelve are picked. I like the new format, kind of reminds me of sudden death in a hoickey playoff.

I guess the new elimination process is okay, don't care much for the new judge. I've heard that she and Paula have had some run-ins. My guess is it will be between the redhead and the guy who sang "Satisfaction".

Just not happening this year.

a couple of weeks ago there was a thread about NOT having an American Idol thread this time...but what the heck.

i work at a Fox TV station, so it's almost required viewing for me (not that some episodes aren't torture). don't like the new format. don't like the new judge, just because four is too many. i wouldn't mind if she simply replaced Paula...but with four of 'em there is way too much judge patter this year.

i'll agree with Joe M on the 16 year old redhead. also like Danny Gokey from last week. i'm disappointed that the contestants aren't playing instruments this season (they are allowed to, they're just choosing not to, i suppose). it added a good element last year.

I'm allergic to melisma

Tattoo girl got kicked off last night.

:cry:


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a couple of weeks ago there was a thread about NOT having an American Idol thread this time...but what the heck.

Guess I missed that....but, what would the TDPRI be without a thread about Idol.....:mrgreen:

While American Idol isn't everyone's cup of tea, as a singer, I'm drawn to it. Moreover, its one of the few shows that the entire family comes together to view. So I'm a fan.

New Judge (Kara): She has good insight, and is a great singer herself. She has the chops, the credibility and importantly (to me) she's a lot of fun to look at. With that said, four judges is one too many. Paula must go.

New Format: I don't care either way. I'm glad they change it from season to season. One this that is consistent - the results show is torture. I DVR it and I can watch the entire show in about 5 minutes.

Meh.

I was sorry to see Tattoo Girl go, maybe she'll make it in the wild card round.

Kinda getting bored with the show, but here's my take:

The new elimation process is a non-issue IMO. Because I've always felt that the top 12 (and maybe even the winner) are all chosen before the competition even starts. I mean, it I were a producer and planned to spend alot of $$$ on an unknown singer, I sure wouldn't leave anything to chance.:shock:

The new judge is being groomed for the removal of Abdual IMO. And I feel this is a good thing. Paula is just a praise machine that is afraid to give critical opinion...not very interesting...unless she's drunk.:mrgreen:

Cowell and Seacrest might get physical before the show is over, but it won't be fighting.:wink:

Totally agree with emu!

I've never believed record companies will put bunches of money behind someone who isn't hand picked. And I think they hand pick 3 or 4 at a time to get them exposure before launching them. The judges have a lot of influence of who gets votes and steer the masses with their comments.

All said, we still watch it as a family so it can't be all bad.

The new elimation process is a non-issue IMO. Because I've always felt that the top 12 (and maybe even the winner) are all chosen before the competition even starts.



Then how do you explain Taylor Hicks? :mrgreen:

IMO, the contestants are really bad this year. There are some good ones, but overall I've been disappointed. I think they peaked last year, but I just can't stop watching it.

The redhead has a great voice. She absolutely killed that Heart song. I also liked Jesse's voice, and she's not bad to look at either.

Prediction...going out on a limb here. Country girl Kendal will win it all this year. She may not have the powerful voice of Carrie U., but she has everything else down.

Just not happening this year.

For me, I don't think it's the show, per se. It's me. I'm just not compelled to watch. I've heard it from others, too. Perhaps it's just burnout.

I'm allergic to melisma

+1

I break out in hives on my... well, let's just leave it at "I break out in hives," shall we?

Prediction...going out on a limb here. Country girl Kendal will win it all this year. She may not have the powerful voice of Carrie U., but she has everything else down.


Gotta disagree here; I don't think she'll make it to the next round....it's gonna be the last gal, Lil, I think, and Jorge and probably Scott that get through...

For me, I don't think it's the show, per se. It's me. I'm just not compelled to watch. I've heard it from others, too. Perhaps it's just burnout.

I'm burnt out. I used to watch it all, from the auditions to the finale. Then I got tired of the audition stage, with its focus on the truly ridiculous rather than the talented.
Now I kind of tired of the whole thing. The winners' singles all have a sameness to them. The contestants fall into the same kinds of groupings every year: Whitney wannabes, country girls, pouty rockers, pretty-boys, and the odd flakey contestant. I haven't actually seen any of it this year, so maybe my opinion about that is wrong.
Nonetheless, I'll watch Canadian Idol instead, just for the local content.

Nonetheless, I'll watch Canadian Idol instead, just for the local content.

dude ...you do know Canadian Idol was canceled ...yea

thankfully IMO... Mulroney was embarrassing..:oops:

Nonetheless, I'll watch Canadian Idol instead, just for the local content.

dude ...you do know Canadian Idol was canceled ...yea

thankfully IMO... Mulroney was embarrassing..:oops:

Wow. I hadn't heard that. There's that bad economy at work again.
Oh well, it gives me one more evening to play guitar.

And actually, I never thought Mulroney was as bad as Seacrest. There was always a sincerity in his efforts to make the contestants feel good about their performances.

I swore off after last year.
Doesn't appear that I missed anything.
My wife called me in the other night and I saw a guy wail on Satisfaction.
One of the best I've heard in years on this competition.
Other than that, I've not watched at all.

Originally Posted by emu!
Prediction...going out on a limb here. Country girl Kendal will win it all this year. She may not have the powerful voice of Carrie U., but she has everything else down.


Gotta disagree here; I don't think she'll make it to the next round.



FWIW I agree with Joe. Kendall won't make it through tonight.
Though she may sneak in later during the 'wild card' round.


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How about the guy wearing the Olivia Newton John headband? He's like Boy George who forgot his makeup.

i rather enjoyed the cat who did the neo-soul spin on "hey there delilah." made me realize that buried under the "guy with an acoustic guitar sings a love song schmaltz and cliches" of the original is a pretty nice melody.

How about the guy wearing the Olivia Newton John headband? He's like Boy George who forgot his makeup.


I know. What a very unfunny joke.
Can't believe he made the final 36.


i rather enjoyed the cat who did the neo-soul spin on "hey there delilah."


Agree. That was a nice job on the tune.

I know. What a very unfunny joke.
Can't believe he made the final 36.


I actually feel sorry for the guy though I can't stand watching him. He seems to have a lot of issues. I thought Sanjiya was bad... Let's hope people don't vote him through.

I was sorry to see Tattoo Girl go, maybe she'll make it in the wild card round.

Looks like you got your wish, she did make one of the wild card selections.

I can't believe that Drama Queen, Tatiyana, made it. She's got a good voice but her theatrics are just too much.

posted by Joe M:

Looks like you got your wish, she did make one of the wild card selections.

I can't believe that Drama Queen, Tatiyana, made it. She's got a good voice but her theatrics are just too much.

Yeah, but Tattoo Girl still has to make it through tomorrow night. I agree about Tatiyana, a bit too many histrionics for me.

My limb just broke.:sad:

No really great contestants left IMO. Oh well, maybe Paula will get drunk and make the show worth watching.:grin:

New format........eh, :roll: doesn't really matter but they needed to keep it fresh.
New judge........can't stand her. :twisted: Really, she is so full of herself.
I'd be surprised if Simon doesn't get rid of her if there is a next year.

Front runner is the dude that sang "Satisfaction". Not that I care, but I say he'll be one of the last two standing.

My limb just broke.:sad:

No really great contestants left IMO. Oh well, maybe Paula will get drunk and make the show worth watching.:grin:

I seriously think she is always on meds. She is always loopy and can't speak a complete sentence without stumbling through her words. Pretty sad.

FWIW I agree with Joe. Kendall won't make it through tonight.




I should go to the racetrack. :wink:


I actually feel sorry for the guy though I can't stand watching him. He seems to have a lot of issues.


I never took a Psych 101 course, but yes, I agree.
Speaking strictly as a layman here, that's a lot of holes to put in one's face, I think he most definitely has issues.
And that is sad.

I swear off the show every stinkin' year.
Then it starts & I get sucked in again.
The thing is, there are always a lot of good singers who show uo, but only a handful seem to get through & make it onto the show at all.
They seem to find a couple who are outstanding, a few who are middle of the road, and a crap load of clowns & freaks who they think will be entertaining when the judges trash them.
My oldest daughter auditioned for the show a couple seasons ago.
Now I'm not delusional or anything.
I know she wouldn't win the whole thing.
But she is a seriously talented singer, who was good enough to be selected as section leader in NJ All State chorus in high school.
While waiting in line to audition, they constantly come around with cameras & make the contestans, who are standing out in the rain for hours,, jump around & scream so they can use it for promos & such.
Then they have to audition for another set of judges before the ones you see on TV ever see them.
Now I know there's no way, even after standing out in the rain & screaming for hours & finally getting to audition with the resulting sore throat, that they couldn't find people better than the freaks & clowns they show on the "audition shows", to audition for the celebrity judges.
But my daughter didn't make it as far as William Hung or Scat Girl or some of the other memorable weirdos,, because she was probably not good enough to win but not enough of a freak that they could ridicule & trash her.So they never even gave her a chance to audition for the celebrity judges.
Still, I can enjoy some of the performances, once the freaks are weeded out. But the "results shows" are tedious & unnecessary.
I much prefer the way they did Nashville Star when that show was still on USA network.

My wife freakin' loves this show and so I have to watch it quite often. As a singer myself, it's entertaining to a degree but most of it I can't stand.

Do kind of wish it was around when I was under 30 (10+ years ago) - I would have totally tried out for the heck of it.

I'm not a fan. At all. So take my comments with a planet sized grain of salt.

I can understand why singers love the show..... but as a guy who has worked with a lot of chick singers in bands over the years.... I just dont get why guitar players would be interested in this show at all. Seems to me it just furthers the notion that we're all disposable, faceless back-up-b*tches and its ALL ABOUT THE SINGER. I get enough of that in real life with bands... in the past, told to our faces that we (the players) dont matter, our singer is everything, we're nothing without her, all this hateful stuff....that drove me crazy.

American Idol has in no small part, helped to ruin the band bar scene in atlanta, so many bars have simply gone to karaoke. And now its so difficult to find a really good singer for your band, they all are out at the karaoke bars. They've finally figured out they dont need a band, they only need a box, and why should they put up with being in a band when they only wanted all the attention for themselves anyway.

Anytime anybody brings up Idol and starts yammering about the celebrities, i mean contestants, and asks my opinion, i simply ask them to name one single person in the band that plays the music.

Not one person has ever been able to answer.

If you guys like it, carry on, the show is certainly well-produced, i've watched the brief bit here and there during the initial train-wreck auditions, but even those seem staged or planted for ratings.

Well, the final 12 (13) have been picked and now the fun starts....who are the front runners?? I still think the 16 year old red-head has the best chance of all, followed by Adam (?), just because he seems to be the most professional of the bunch. In fact, I think that's what his job was, a singer. Plus, I think the teeny-bopper girls will influence the voting more than anything else so maybe I have to move red down to #2....

My prediction for top 3:

Adam Lambert
Danny Gokey
Lil Rounds
Chris Lambert

Yes, I know that's four, but there's some great talent in that list.

I can't believe a musician would not only watch but discuss this show. phooey.

I can't believe a musician would not only watch but discuss this show.


The show does have a kick-a** band (and female backup singers).

And, believe it or not, part of the allure to me is to listen to the band and see how they play so well so many different songs.

I was even a fan of The Next Great American Band. Yes, I'm the one person that watched it.

I was even a fan of The Next Great American Band. Yes, I'm the one person that watched it.

No. I watched it too.

+1 with Skully, kelnet, et al ... the wife & I have been fans, but just haven't been interested this season, kinda burntout on it.

mud

I gave it a try this week. Was travelling on business and had nothing else to do. I'm just not a fan I guess. They elinated several people. And then it seemed like one by one they brought them all back! Also, the puerto rican dood... Is that elton john song all he knows? I don't honestly see a lot of talent or charisma. Again, just my opinion.... -Eric

I don't honestly see a lot of talent or charisma. Again, just my opinion.... -Eric


Even though I do watch it, I have to agree with you.

I've stated this before, but I'm somewhat amazed that with tens of thousands of people auditioning, this is the best they can come up with.

I guess it just goes to show that a real quality singer is rare and hard to find.

I guess it just goes to show that a real quality singer is rare and hard to find.

Troof.

will win ...me thinks...........Lil Rounds is good...but every town has 2 or 3 Aretha wannabes...who ALL sound good...but we already got Aretha. JIMO

I'm not a fan. At all. So take my comments with a planet sized grain of salt.

I can understand why singers love the show..... but as a guy who has worked with a lot of chick singers in bands over the years.... I just dont get why guitar players would be interested in this show at all. Seems to me it just furthers the notion that we're all disposable, faceless back-up-b*tches and its ALL ABOUT THE SINGER. I get enough of that in real life with bands... in the past, told to our faces that we (the players) dont matter, our singer is everything, we're nothing without her, all this hateful stuff....that drove me crazy.

American Idol has in no small part, helped to ruin the band bar scene in atlanta, so many bars have simply gone to karaoke. And now its so difficult to find a really good singer for your band, they all are out at the karaoke bars. They've finally figured out they dont need a band, they only need a box, and why should they put up with being in a band when they only wanted all the attention for themselves anyway.

Anytime anybody brings up Idol and starts yammering about the celebrities, i mean contestants, and asks my opinion, i simply ask them to name one single person in the band that plays the music.

Not one person has ever been able to answer.

If you guys like it, carry on, the show is certainly well-produced, i've watched the brief bit here and there during the initial train-wreck auditions, but even those seem staged or planted for ratings.

I aint buyin' that part about the disposable backup...
If that's what any musician is, it aint because of American Idol. It's because that's the level they push themselves to.
Plenty of guitarists, drummers & keyboard players have been synonymous with the sounds of the bands they've played in over the years...Page, Beck, Gilmore, Howe, May...Just to name a few guitarists who were not replacable or interchangeable in any way.
That said, I don't totally disagree that some singers can & do seem to get all the notoriety. But in a lot of cases, it is the singer who deserves it, as the front person & face of the band.

OK, the first kick-offs of the season by the public....I thought the vote was right on with the 17 year old girl; of the ones remaining, she just didn't have it...not so sure about the kid from Puerto Rico; he just picked a bad song....

How bout the new rule where the judges can save one of the contestants that has been voted off? Since they can use it only once, I'll bet they'll save it till the end.

Kelly Clarkson performed and, to me, just sounded so-so. Was I imagining it or has she really beefed up??

I've always loved KC, no matter what her weight...but that song!!! My Life Sucks Without You??? (cringe)

They shoulda voted off that Kenya West guy...he obviously can't sing in pitch w/o help from silicon chips.

None of the remaining contestants keep my attention.

The only impressive part of the whole hour was Paula's cleavage.

America got it right. While Jasmine certainly can sing, she lacks stage presence. Jorge picked the wrong song. Put America to sleep and they vote you off the island. It's that simple.

Kenya West was horrible.

Kelly Clarkson seemed a bit out of sorts. And yes she did put on some recent weight. I don't know when they shot the video for that song, maybe 3 months ago, but she seems to have put on 20-30 unneeded pounds since then.

I have to disagree with the judges last night. Adam's interpretation and performance of "Ring of Fire" was outstanding. Was it country; hell no. Was it cool to hear, hell yes. It's like the dude channeled Jim Morrison. One of the best performances ever on AI.

Brad Paisleys on tonight!!!!!!! doing his new release "Then"

I have to disagree with the judges last night. Adam's interpretation and performance of "Ring of Fire" was outstanding. Was it country; hell no. Was it cool to hear, hell yes. It's like the dude channeled Jim Morrison. One of the best performances ever on AI.

Depends; if the singer was supposed to be doing country, Adam sure wasn't doing country, he did a country song his way. If the point of doing different genres of music is to see how well-rounded you are as a singer, he didn't do a good job. Lil Rounds kinda struggled with her song since she isn't a country singer either (and admitted it), but she pulled it off quite well. Alexis, Danny and Matt sounded very good. You never can count out the 16 year old, Allison, but, to me, the performance of the night was from Tatoo Girl, Megan, even though she was fighting the flu, she sang amazingly well.

The others.....meh.....

Brad Paisleys on tonight!!!!!!! doing his new release "Then"

What time do you think he'll be on so I don't have to watch the whole show?

Tatoo chick is hotter than a stolen tamale and sounded great....that full arm tat is not happening for me however...can't understand why a beautiful girl would want to do that.

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Tatoo chick is hotter than a stolen tamale and sounded great....that full arm tat is not happening for me however...can't understand why a beautiful girl would want to do that.

Agree 100%. The tats are ugly on such a natural beauty IMO.

Anoop Dog was the best...
Girl that sang Dolly seemed to struggle...
George Michael wanna be REALLY creeped me out...

But, what do I know.:smile::confused:

Agree 100%. The tats are ugly on such a natural beauty IMO.

Daddy issues.

Tatoo chick is hotter than a stolen tamale and sounded great....that full arm tat is not happening for me however...can't understand why a beautiful girl would want to do that.



+ 200%


I forgot to mention, before, Simon's last week best quote of the show ever:


During the judges' critique, one of the contestants said "I was trying to be artistic."

Simon replied: "You can be artisitc. Just not on this show."

Priceless.

What time do you think he'll be on so I don't have to watch the whole show?

Nope, you gotta watch the whole thing ... rules is rules.

mud

Nope, you gotta watch the whole thing ... rules is rules.

mud

Absolutively.....:mrgreen:

I absolutely can't stand that Adam guy.
And I can't make up my mind about his Ring Of Fire rendition.
But the dude can hit some freakin' high notes!
His voice creeps me out, though.
It seems to have no male characteristics to it, like Neil Sedaka's voice.
And he reminds me of some nerd playing a rock star in a high school musical.
I mean, amazing talent, but seems contrived & fake & not for me.
Looking forward to seeing Brad tonight.

I was hoping for a faster BP song to showcase the tele playing, but :grin:

Carrie U. singing at the break...simply FANTASTIC...the voice...so pure...almost made me cry.

+ 200%


I forgot to mention, before, Simon's last week best quote of the show ever:


During the judges' critique, one of the contestants said "I was trying to be artistic."

Simon replied: "You can be artisitc. Just not on this show."

Priceless.
Yeah, that was awesome.

What about Paula this week telling the blind guy to stop using the piano as a crutch.:confused:

Just what I need, television karaoke. :twisted:

Tatoo chick is hotter than a stolen tamale and sounded great....that full arm tat is not happening for me however...can't understand why a beautiful girl would want to do that.


Forrest Gump pretty much explained it.

run Forest run....

Just what I need, television karaoke. :twisted:

did you watch it tonight Pete ? Brad was sad ...but entertaining.. Carrie U. and RandyT. where great...sorry if you missed it..:neutral:

did you watch it tonight Pete ? Brad was sad ...but entertaining.. Carrie U. and RandyT. where great...sorry if you missed it..:neutral:

No, I didn't watch it. I have never watched it. I see clips occasionally when I watch Keith Olbermann. The show is cringe-worthy, soup to nuts. If I want to see karaoke, I can go to any number of bars, any night of the week.

It is a karaoke contest. Carrie Underwood won a Karaoke contest. Woo bloody hoo.

Call me when they cancel it.

No, I didn't watch it. I have never watched it. I see clips occasionally when I watch Keith Olbermann. The show is cringe-worthy, soup to nuts. If I want to see karaoke, I can go to any number of bars, any night of the week.

It is a karaoke contest. Carrie Underwood won a Karaoke contest. Woo bloody hoo.

Call me when they cancel it.

Strong opinions from someone who has never watched it. (Clips don't count.)
Any singer who sings over backing tracks is singing karaoke. What makes the show different from local pubs is seeing the growth (or lack thereof) week after week, and watching how these youngsters deal with the pressure of learning so much material in so short a time, and then perfoming it in front of millions. It's kind of like watching college basketball: amateurs giving it everything to try and reach "the show." Sometimes they hit the three; other times they clang it off the rim. There are some great moments and some bad, but that's why it's a competition and not just a variety show.

I wish I could win a karaoke contest and then sell millions of CD's.

No, I didn't watch it. I have never watched it. I see clips occasionally when I watch Keith Olbermann. The show is cringe-worthy, soup to nuts. If I want to see karaoke, I can go to any number of bars, any night of the week.

It is a karaoke contest. Carrie Underwood won a Karaoke contest. Woo bloody hoo.

Call me when they cancel it.

Gee, Pete, why don't you tell us how you really feel???? :mrgreen:

I wish I could win a karaoke contest and then sell millions of CD's.

Audition.
If you're good enough, you will.

And anyone who says they've never watched the show, but wants to rant about how bad it is has absolutely ZERO credibility.
You can't possibly have an intelligent, informed opinion of anything without seeing it.

I haven't been a Carrie Underwood fan. But she was really good last night.
She finally has a single that's being played on country radio, that's really country...Not that something has to be "country" to be good. But most, if not all of the singles she's released that get the hell played out of them on "country radio" are not country songs.

I do think they got it completely wrong by not giving Michael the boot.
Here's a guy who is perceived as a country singer, who IMO, not only failed miserably, but was the weakest performer of the night in what was supposed to be his element.

I haven't been a Carrie Underwood fan. But she was really good last night.
She finally has a single that's being played on country radio, that's really country...Not that something has to be "country" to be good. But most, if not all of the singles she's released that get the hell played out of them on "country radio" are not country songs.

I do think they got it completely wrong by not giving Michael the boot.
Here's a guy who is perceived as a country singer, who IMO, not only failed miserably, but was the weakest performer of the night in what was supposed to be his element.

I agree 100% with you PapaBeef, I've never been an Underwood fan either, but she blew the roof off last night; what a voice.

Also agree about Michael and Alexis; the voters sent the wrong one home. I still feel that teeny-boppers influence the vote a lot by just voting for the hulkiest guys instead of the best singers. Michael seems like a good guy but doesn't have the pipes that Alexis does.

That Ring of Fire rendition was pretty blasphemous to me, but I have to admit that the guy (Adam?) is a great vocalist. Went from register to register in a pretty amazing way. I think he could go all the way, providing he turns down the "personality" aspect a little, if ya know what I mean...

Brad last night was....well, not so good. I think the song was pretty bad, but I am not a fan of his anyway. He should have played something more upbeat and not bothered to try to push a single. At least let the steel take the break on a ballad.

I was surprised that the red hair girl was in the bottom three. She's the favorite here.
and I agree, the rock / emo guy is just creepy. I am beginning to wonder if he is a eunuch.

Idol is what it is and to me it's not worth getting worked up about


having said that....


Megan couldn't have looked hotter

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And I dug her take on her song

When she's gone
I'm gone

I don't mind the tats either

:twisted:

Audition.
If you're good enough, you will.

And anyone who says they've never watched the show, but wants to rant about how bad it is has absolutely ZERO credibility.
You can't possibly have an intelligent, informed opinion of anything without seeing it.

I haven't been a Carrie Underwood fan. But she was really good last night.
She finally has a single that's being played on country radio, that's really country...Not that something has to be "country" to be good. But most, if not all of the singles she's released that get the hell played out of them on "country radio" are not country songs.



You bring up an interesting point. In the 60's through the 80's, artists like the Byrds, Eagles, Buffalo Springfield, Neil Young, etc. were categorized as rock. With the current state of music and top 40, they would be categorized as country and only heard on those radio stations. Underwood would have been classified as pop/top 40 in those days, like Dusty Springfield, Linda Ronstadt, and Bobby Gentry to name a few.

On a side note, that dude Adam is such a poser. He can sing, but he's not all they think he is, especially Paula who acts like a ***** in heat.

...anyone who says they've never watched the show, but wants to rant about how bad it is has absolutely ZERO credibility.
You can't possibly have an intelligent, informed opinion of anything without seeing it.I don't have to see much of it to know it's a karaoke contest and as such, I have no interest in it.

Anyone who takes it seriously has a bigger credibility problem, IMO.

I don't have to see much of it to know it's a karaoke contest and as such, I have no interest in it.

Anyone who takes it seriously has a bigger credibility problem, IMO.

maybe someone can link Carrie Underwoods performance last night so Pete can see what we're talking about...I thought she was outstanding and has come so far since her A.I. season. I'm sure most of us view A.I. as family entertainment,sometimes good sometimes bad and alot of the time ugly but it is something we can watch with our kids unlike most of the junk on t.v. nowadays.

Brad Paisley played last night...whadya think?

maybe someone can link Carrie Underwoods performance last night so Pete can see what we're talking about...

here ya go:
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It is what it is. And you either like it or you don't.
But if you don't watch it & don't care about it, why bother reading & posting on a thread with the title "American Idol"?

People often think the contestants just come out of the woodwork & go on the show & get record deals.
Once you get past the mental defectives on the "audition shows", the majority of them are people who have been singing in bands or playing open mike clubs & coffee shops & stuff like that & just are taking a shot.
Honestly, I swear off the show every season. But in the end, it's music related. And I find that more interesting than a lot of what's on.
I'm sure there are a few things in this world that are far worse than American Idol.

Have y'all noticed by the way that tattoo girl has dropped her last name?

It's just Megan Joy now.

thanks hekawi...:wink: that little girl has got some pipes...Randy looked like he
was totally enjoying having the best seat in the house...

maybe someone can link Carrie Underwoods performance last night so Pete can see what we're talking about...I thought she was outstanding and has come so far since her A.I. season. I'm sure most of us view A.I. as family entertainment,sometimes good sometimes bad and alot of the time ugly but it is something we can watch with our kids unlike most of the junk on t.v. nowadays.

Since I can't stand Carrie Underwood, you needn't bother. I've heard her and I've heard much better singers who have never had 1/10 of her fame, but have 10x the credibility with me.

Here are two of them. They're sisters. I don't buy into the "star machine." Sorry.

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I'll state my problem with "Americal Idol" very simply.

American Idol, and those who follow it, ensure more generations of musical shallowness in our culture.

It means losers like this:

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will always have more fame and success than heavyweights like this:

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If you're ok with that, enjoy your musical meringue. Don't ask ME to call it good. I won't and I will speak out against it when I am so moved.

What you have to realize is AI isnt a REAL singing contest its a reality show that makes people think its a real show. Anytime all the contestants live together in 1 house are all 16-28 which is their age limits and people vote someone off each week its just not real.

The final 4 contestants have already been leaked by Seacrest and he also admitted he knows who is getting voted off before the show starts.

The final 4 will be Adam Danny Allison and Kris according to the info thats been leaked so lets wait and see. As soon as they added that new rule where the judges can save someone that was voted off they did that to insure the person THEY want to win will win.

AI is just like The Bachelor fake.

As soon as they added that new rule where the judges can save someone that was voted off they did that to insure the person THEY want to win will win.

Yup they want no more repeats of the Taylor Hicks year.

Since I can't stand Carrie Underwood, you needn't bother. I've heard her and I've heard much better singers who have never had 1/10 of her fame, but have 10x the credibility with me.

Here are two of them. They're sisters. I don't buy into the "star machine." Sorry.

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Thats great you like that artist. But to say that she's better than Carrie Underwood you must be part deaf. Although I don't like Carrie's choice of material that girl can whale. But speaking of great singers with little recognition here's my favorite. I won't say she's necessarily better than Carrie but I like her better.


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Thats great you like that artist. But to say that she's better than Carrie Underwood you must be part deaf.Welcome to my ignore list.

Welcome to my ignore list.

I somehow feel honored.

[QUOTE=petebradt;1740157]I'll state my problem with "Americal Idol" very simply.

American Idol, and those who follow it, ensure more generations of musical shallowness in our culture.


+ 1000.

IMHO American Idol is at best a bad joke, at worst a cruel joke. I watched once and never will again - I thought it was incredibly dull, dumb, and pointless. I felt like a fool watching it.

I admit that I would have liked it better if Brad Paisley had been on!

At the risk of sounding like a fuddy-duddy, the real problem I have with the show is that I think it degrades our rich musical heritage. It's plastic and it's disposable, and I think it cheapens the act of making and sharing music.

Of course different strikes for different folks.

That Ring of Fire rendition was pretty blasphemous to me, but I have to admit that the guy (Adam?) is a great vocalist. Went from register to register in a pretty amazing way. I think he could go all the way, providing he turns down the "personality" aspect a little, if ya know what I mean...

YOU SAID IT!!! Bad rendition. Great voice. Creepy guy. Gotta tone it down!

YOU SAID IT!!! Bad rendition. Great voice. Creepy guy. Gotta tone it down!

Adam has a huge range and on the right song like maybe a Queen song he could be really good but his background is in the theater so he is way over the top he is used to peforming for people in the back rows of the theater instead of the public on TV in the front row so to speak so for me he has a hard time connecting.

I can guarantee you he will be in the final 4.

Come on guys...
It's just a TV show.
I do agree with many, maybe even most of the criticisms of the show.
But to act like it's the reason there's bad music in the world is pretty ludicrous.
Way before American Idol was even a Hershey Bar in your daddy's back pocket, there were "artists" like Bo Donaldson And The Heywoods, Terry Jacks, The T Set, Hanson...
There has always been crap. There will always be crap.
American Idol will run it's course and guess what...
Maybe there will be another, similar show to replace it or not. But either way, nothing will change.
AI, as I've said, is what it is.
It's not a show you'd watch to hear intelligent insightful comments from the "judges".
It actually, often serves as a showcase for stupidity. But I won't waste the space or time to site examples.

Someone will win the million dollar contract & all the negative crap that goes along with it.
But others will get noticed and have opportunities they might not have had otherwise.
Other than that,I agree that the show,purely as a contest, has no legitimacy.
The auditioning process is a total farce. (See my first post in this thread).
The thing is, look at what else is on TV.
As I've said before, at least this is music related.
IMO, that makes it more entertaining than most of the alternatives.
It's all subjective. And we're all free to watch what we want.
It's just not fair to say, "I've never seen the show. But ..."
That would be the same as saying ,"I've never heard ...play. But he sure does suck".

There was a show a couple of years back that was like AI called "the Greatest American Band". They had some good talent on there. The band that won was really talented but I never heard what happened to them. Too bad the show is no longer around.

Since I can't stand Carrie Underwood, you needn't bother. I've heard her and I've heard much better singers who have never had 1/10 of her fame, but have 10x the credibility with me.

Here are two of them. They're sisters. I don't buy into the "star machine." Sorry.



At the risk of being 'ignored' I have to agree with golfnut.
Though the clip is a rocking song and enjoyable to listen to, Underwood is a technically much better singer than those two women.
Underwood sings.
Those ladies were shouting.

Didn't you notice how flat they were at the beginning of the chorus ("...going down...") like at around 1:48?

There was a show a couple of years back that was like AI called "the Greatest American Band". They had some good talent on there. The band that won was really talented but I never heard what happened to them. Too bad the show is no longer around.

The band that won that show were The Clark Brothers the dobro player was just fantastic.

They were in a much larger family band that went around the country doing christian shows in tents.

here they are

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I'll state my problem with "Americal Idol" very simply.

American Idol, and those who follow it, ensure more generations of musical shallowness in our culture.

If you're ok with that, enjoy your musical meringue. Don't ask ME to call it good. I won't and I will speak out against it when I am so moved.

Have there been other threads where you felt that you just had to go in and tell everyone how stupid they were?
If you disagreed with vegetarians, would you walk into a vegetarian restaurant to tell everyone how ridiculous they were for not eating meat?

If you disagreed with vegetarians, would you walk into a vegetarian restaurant to tell everyone how ridiculous they were for not eating meat?

I'm thinking Pete would ... but, that's simply based on his interactions with the group, as you noted. I don't know Pete from Adam, and I'm quite O.K. with that.

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I'm thinking Pete would ... but, that's simply based on his interactions with the group, as you noted. I don't know Pete from Adam, and I'm quite O.K. with that.

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Yeah, guys, let's not turn this thread into a pissin contest; I started it as a fun thing, let's try to keep it that way and on the topic.....

I like fun things and stuff that makes you smile...:smile:

thanks for gettin it back on track Joe...

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Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan.


Every Idol contestant from now on should be forced to sign a piece of paper that reads "I will never, ever … EVER … try to sing a Stevie Wonder song under penalty of death."


It never works out.

And it certainly didn't for poor Megan tonight. :sad:

In regard to Adam's version of "Tracks of My Tears:"

It doesn't matter what you think of the A/I show.
Whether you like it or not.
Whether you watch it or not.
If you think it's just ok or if you think it's a huge pile of crap.

It doesn't matter.

That was amazing.
A great song sung wonderfully.
That was entertaining.
I'd enjoy listening to that on my car stereo any time.


The first song ("Let's Get it On") and the last ("Papa Was a Rolling Stone") were also very, very good.

Megan, Megan, Megan, Megan.


Every Idol contestant from now on should be forced to sign a piece of paper that reads "I will never, ever … EVER … try to sing a Stevie Wonder song under penalty of death."


It never works out.

And it certainly didn't for poor Megan tonight. :sad:

I agree, I think it's the last we'll see of "Tattoo Girl". :sad:

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Megan has been the choice at vote for the worst for several weeks now.

They encourage people to vote for who they think is the worst to keep them on. Sanjaya was it last time hahah.

:neutral:
I'm already looking forward to Nashville Star.

My money is on Danny Gokey for the gold....

My money is on Danny Gokey for the gold....

I thought it was interesting how he blew off Smokey Robinson's recommendation to sing the chorus.

I think Adam will beat him.

This was the first night I've seen this year, and there were some great performances. However, that Adam guy blew me away. At first, I thought he was some weird Kurt Russell impersonator, but he did a tremendous job on that song.

For my tastes just let Adam and Allison stay kick off all the rest.

Scott the blind guy has zero soul he is so boring I just cant stand him.

I thought Allison was the best tonight Adam a close second Danny was ok Id give him 3rd the rest can go back to kareoke which is what they sounded like to me.

The Adam fellow sing very well, but he just sings way too high for me to really like his voice. Too much falsetto last night for me. I really liked his concept for the song, but the voice put me off.

:neutral:
I'm already looking forward to Nashville Star.

I would have agreed with you about Nashville Star being the better program until NBC turned it into a real crapfest when they took it over last season.
I'll be surprised as hell if they even bring it back after that.

I can't stand Adam. But I'll admit, he's probably the best pure singer of the bunch.
He just reminds me of someone playing a rock star in a play.
Also, I think they came up with that "judges save" rule in case too many people saw those pictures of him kissing a guy that someone put on line, and wouldn't vote for him.
But IMO, if he could get away with that Ring Of Fire rendition, he's probably there for the duration.

They keep praising that Justin Timberlake guy, who I think finally showed something.

My favorites are Danny & Allison.

This was the first night I've seen this year, and there were some great performances. However, that Adam guy blew me away. At first, I thought he was some weird Kurt Russell impersonator, but he did a tremendous job on that song.

funny you mention him impersonating Kurt as that was the first time he looked like that...normally he has the Indie rocker hair in the face brooding look...I too thought he was the best performer last night ...I mean hey even Smokey gave him a standing O....

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Megan Joy or Michael Sarver will go home tonight. whichever one doesn't, is gone next week. then it's Scott "the blind guy's" turn. that'll leave 7. the following week the judges will use their new "save" option to keep someone around, just because they can (why hawk a new wrinkle if you don't actually use it?!).

Megan Joy or Michael Sarver will go home tonight. whichever one doesn't, is gone next week. then it's Scott "the blind guy's" turn. that'll leave 7. the following week the judges will use their new "save" option to keep someone around, just because they can (why hawk a new wrinkle if you don't actually use it?!).

Im sure they wiill save the new save feature for Adam but I doubt he will need it. Once it gets down to the final 5 they cant use the save so watch for them to use it on Lil Rounds Allison or Danny.

Lil Rounds wasnt very good last night she might be in the bottom 3 but they can only use the save 1 time this year so I dont see them using it very early.

I can't believe that Megan wasn't even in the bottom three tonight....there's gotta be a fix in there somewhere, she was absolutely horrible last night...

hekawi, I agree with you; since Michael went home tonight, it'll be Megan next week (unless she pulls something astounding), then Scott.

RE: "Vote for the Worst"

They encourage people to vote for who they think is the worst to keep them on.

Megan has been the choice at vote for the worst for several weeks now.



I know.

But as far as I'm concerned Megan can stay as long as she likes. :smile:

This is the first season I've started watching, and only once they had the big final group. I think the episode I started on was the one where they kicked off that really obnoxious girl. The one who was yelling and crying and being way too over the top. If you watch it as a rigged karaoke contest, and not as a talent competition, it is more enjoyable.

My favorite is the red head Allison. The one with the 40 year old heavy smoker's voice. She's the only one whose singing I actually enjoy. She's not trying to be a Whitney Houston copy, and has one hell of a singing voice in a range I find enjoyable. She did a great job with "Papa Was A Rolling Stone."

I didn't think the short girl with the pink highlight in her hair should have gone home last week. Wasn't the best, but I thought she was far better than most.

I cannot stand Adam. He looks like he's in his mid-30s but is trying to hang out with high schoolers. He's heavily airbrushed, and it's really creepy. IMO he's a song destroyer. They criticize others for being "creative," but with him he can do no wrong. That 'Ring of Fire' rendition was unlistenable. Nobody should ever sing as highpitched as he does. Ever. He makes an icepicky bridge pickup seem like a neck PAF with the tone knob on 0. I have a feeling the judge's save is intended to make he survives. I have a feeling they won't use it for anybody else, perhaps Allison or or the guy who poses with the guitar.

I guess the industry folks see him as marketable, and unfortunately he will probably be the winner.

I think the bantering between Paula and Simon is hilarious. Especially when he drew the moustache on her hahaha.

My guestimation is that tattoo and the blind guy are next to go. They're both pretty awful. The guy who got the boot tonight seemed like a nice guy, just wasn't a very good singer.

What?! No votes for Anoop?! :razz:

I want to have Jerry Seinfeld come on as a guest judge, just so he can yell "Anoooooop!"

I thought Adam hit some great notes during the Motown Medley. He has a hell of a scream. Maybe he'll do Space Truckin' or Communication Breakdown and totally rock out. He certainly has the range to pull off some Ian Gillan or Robert Plant, although perhaps not the right timbre or basic oomph. He could totally do a Rik Emmett song, though.

What genre is coming up next? I'd love to see a hard rock night just once on this show.

I want to have Jerry Seinfeld come on as a guest judge, just so he can yell "Anoooooop!"

I thought Adam hit some great notes during the Motown Medley. He has a hell of a scream. Maybe he'll do Space Truckin' or Communication Breakdown and totally rock out. He certainly has the range to pull off some Ian Gillan or Robert Plant, although perhaps not the right timbre or basic oomph. He could totally do a Rik Emmett song, though.

What genre is coming up next? I'd love to see a hard rock night just once on this show.

Hahaha Scandinavian death metal night would be awesome! Or maybe I just want to see Anoop screaming in corpse paint.

RE: "Vote for the Worst"




I know.

But as far as I'm concerned Megan can stay as long as she likes. :smile:

if I close my left eye the tattoo go's away and her voice improves...:shock:

I'm pretty sure VFTW is the only reason Megan wasn't in the bottom3 tonight.
She wasn't very good this week. But there is something about her I like. I just can't put my finger on it.
And I don't mean that the way it sounded.
Michael should have been gone last week, IMO.
Honestly, they're all better singers than I am. And even though that's not saying much, even the weakest of the remaining contestants will probably end up putting out a cd by the the next season.

This was the first night I've seen this year, and there were some great performances. However, that Adam guy blew me away. At first, I thought he was some weird Kurt Russell impersonator, but he did a tremendous job on that song.

With his 'new' look, it was the first time he reminded me of Kurt Russel when he did the Elvis movie. This guy will definitely get a job doing Elvis impersonations if he doesn't win. His version of TOMT was great.

That 'Ring of Fire' rendition was unlistenable. Nobody should ever sing as highpitched as he does. Ever.

He sounded a lot like Jeff Buckley in that version.

Anoop tonight - what the ... ?

Is that what music fans are buying now?

Anoop: "I want to be an R&B artist."

Huh!?

Adam Lambert is really spooky to me but, I've gotta admit, the guy can flat out sing. I thought his vocal tonight was outstanding. Seems to be a cross between Steven Tyler and Axel Rose. He is, by far, the most talented in the bunch.

Still spooky....

The Adam guy is a great screamer.:shock: He is always on key, but I don't know if he is AI material...probably could front a Duran Duran type band quite well though.

FINALLY, someone called out the new judge, whatever her name...as "broken record":lol: She seems to ALWAYS tell the contestants the same thing..."wrong song choice". That was cool.:grin:

Don't know who was best tonight, but then I don't really care much at this point...tattoo girl may go home...

I think tattoo, an00b, the guy who played billy joel (who the judges loved?!), and lil rounds are all going to be competing for the opportunity to go home.

I still think Allison is the best, but I said when she walked out that they were all going to mock her Ziggy Stardust hair-doo. The rest of the guys who I can't differentiate did alright, don't think any of them deserve to go home this week.

Adam is horrendous. Between his song choice and his eardrum destroying vocals, I thought my head was going to explode. We get it, he's a castrato. Time to move on.

funny reading these critiques...we don't get it till 10 minutes from now
thanks I'll know what to look for ...kinda

Although I personally would never buy anything from Adam (not my cup of tea), I think he is the most talented singer/performer of the bunch by a LONG margin.

I want to hear Adam do some Axl Rose or some Ian Gillan. It's great to hear that kind of voice again. I'm tired of all the Creed, Nickleback soundalikes. Let's get some four-octave vocals back into rock.

Adam's possibly the most talented contestant ever to be on AI.
Definitely the creepiest IMO.
I kinda hope the creepiness factor keeps him from winning.
They can only save him once. And if they somehow end up doing it the last week, I swear I'm done with the show for good.
Lil's been a major disappointment to me. She blew me away the first time I heard her & hasn't been much better than average since.
I'm sticking with Danny & Allison.
That guy with the guitar, who's name I can never remember (that kinda says it all) is actually better than I thought though.
The Justin Timberlake impersonator the "judges" always rave about was decent last week & ended up in the bottom 3.
I thought he was brutal last night.

Adam's possibly the most talented contestant ever to be on AI.
Definitely the creepiest IMO.
I kinda hope the creepiness factor keeps him from winning.
They can only save him once. And if they somehow end up doing it the last week, I swear I'm done with the show for good.



The "save" only works until they're down to five.
It won't be available the last week.




Lil's been a major disappointment to me. She blew me away the first time I heard her & hasn't been much better than average since.



Agree 100%.
None of the contestants seem to really "get it" ... what they're supposed to be doing.
I know the refrain about "wrong song choice" is a "broken record" but it's really true.
They keep saying "I chose such-and-such 'cause I love that song."
So what?
They're there to entertain, impress and win ... so choose the right song for goodness sake!
Randy said it straight out - just because you like a song doesn't mean you should sing it.

I can excuse most of them because they're so young, they don't really get what they're supposed to do.
But Rounds is older and should know better.

Did you see that angry look on her face after she did "Heat Wave" and was listening to the comments?
I've seen that look before (on other people).
I am sure while she was singing and immediately after she was thinking to herself, "great job, I nailed that, sounded just like the record."
And then the judges made the exact correct comments - she was copying the original, a homage they called it. That's not what a singing competition (at least this one) is about.
Boy, was she mad.

[Side comment - even as a copy, it wasn't that great. She has a great voice but she was flat in a lot of places. Just makes one appreciate even more how great Martha Reeves and her cohorts really were.]

Then she did that Celine thing last night. Ouch. That was awful.

Again, none of them seen to really get it, except maybe Adam. Though his shrieking is starting to get a little tiring.

That guy with the guitar, who's name I can never remember (that kinda says it all) is actually better than I thought


that one is Kris. he's turning into the most marketable of the bunch, but that's not saying much....none of this year's contestants will sell a lot of records.

Megan Joy needs to go home TONIGHT.

Megan Joy needs to go home TONIGHT.

Well, you got your wish, and I think well deserved. She acted like a 10 year old tonight. Guess the pressure finally got to her.....

Well, you got your wish, and I think well deserved. She acted like a 10 year old tonight. Guess the pressure finally got to her.....

I think she may have been drunk:!: Acted strange even before she was chosen to be in the bottom three. When she sang the going-away song, it sounded like she was trying to mimic the voice of Amy Winehouse or something.:confused:

The only thing stranger was that weird performance by the Lady DooDoo person playing the pink piano filled with bubbles. Was that a female impersonator?

Was a little shocking that Allison was in the bottom 3. I was not expecting that. Seemed that the judges were ready to save her. I was expecting the bottom 3 to be anoop, lil, and megan. I was 2/3 correct.

Megan's behavior tonight was incredibly obnoxious. But I guess that's the thing to do these days, act shamelessly on primetime TV. Guess she's hoping to be on the next season of Rock Of Love Bus.

Anoop can split anytime. Who would pay a concert ticket price to see him? Megan needed to go too, but I like her as a person. Actually, with the right producer and game plan, she has potential in a weird sort of way.

Allison is still cooking in my book. Man, she's only sixteen and doing well considering that, but I think she is still discovering the depths of her potential. I can't see her going to the finals.

Lil needs to find her niche again and be the bad ass singer she started off being, or she won't last. If she gets the right songs and pulls some gusto from her soul, she might be a contender still.

Matt needs to figure out who he is--quick.

Scott is a wonderful human being, an incredible piano player and a decent but not amazing vocalist. If it weren't for the human sympathy vote, I don't think he'd still be there. I give him a couple more weeks. And I really like the guy.

Danny is good and has his niche carved out pretty well. If Adam weren't in the competition, he'd be a shoe-in for the finals, but Adam can pretty much have his way with any of them. Imagine trying to compete with a singer with that much skill--it is humbling and demoralizing. Adam will have to intentionally throw the competition to lose. And I expect he might. He's already gotten what he came for--exposure. He could skip the Idol contract by coming in second.

Kris is the wild card. Almost invisible so far, but gaining some ground. He has to pull a few rabbits from the hat to last. He might, but I have my doubts.

I predict that it comes down to Adam and Danny for the final. America votes: do they choose the more wholesome Danny, who lost his wife--or do they choose the more gifted but admittedly gay Adam? I think that vote will be very interesting. The result will be determined by the next eight weeks and the totality of the performances. Right now, its a toss up.

Good analysis Crawdad. Think you're pretty much spot on there. Think Anoop and Scott are next. Glad they gave Lil another opportunity despite doing a Celine Dion song. What was she thinking?? hahaha

For the most part they all seem like nice folks who are pretty surprised to be there (except Adam, who seems to be quite aware of his surroundings). I haven't watched previous seasons, was this also the case in the past?

I think next weeks might be a challenge. Did it say they had to pick a song from the year of their birth? I might have heard wrong. But could be rough for the younger ones. According to wikipedia, Lil was born in 1984. I think she should perform the #9 song of 1984, "Ghostbusters," by Ray Parker Jr.!

I predict that it comes down to Adam and Danny for the final. America votes: do they choose the more wholesome Danny, who lost his wife--or do they choose the more gifted but admittedly gay Adam?

Interesting point. Would Freddy Mercury win American Idol? Or would the homophobe vote be too strong? Would Elton John have a chance? Melissa Etheridge?

Anybody else hear what David Cook had to say when they presented him with the platinum record?

It went something like this:
Two years ago, I made my own CD and sold 1,000 in a year...after AI I make a CD and sell 1,000,000 in three months.

Can't deny the power of marketing, huh?

I think you mugs are pretty much on the money, except as much as I liked Lil coming into the final 12, she's been going down hill And IMO anyone who does a Celine Dion song should not only be eliminated, but should be dealt a sound thrashing as well.
It seems that the real winner on AI isn't the person who "wins", but anyone who gets the exposure & gets out without being stuck with the AI contractual obligations.
AI was able to get around that by obligating the top 10 to the tour, though.
Finally, Lady GaGa! WTF?
And they had the nerve to send somebody home after THAT!
It might have been okay if she just stayed behind the piano & did the dueling thing with the violin & vocals.
But as soon as she stepped out, she was pretty much interchangeable with Rhianna & Brittney & the rest of them.

Oh yeah...
Is it just me?
Or does it steam anyone else's clams to hear the "judges" criticize the contestants for their song choice, not in the case like last night when they could pick pretty much any song they wanted to, but on Barry Manello week or show tunes week?
As an aspiring "pop" singer, which show tune would you choose to sing?
Come on "judges"! You can't polish a turd.

Man, crawdad, you've got it nailed, I couldn't have said it any better. If I had to critique each singer, I wouldn't change a thing you mentioned....spot on....

Or would the homophobe vote be too strong?


Clay Aiken.

Rooting for Danny!

Adam is a great vocalist, but does the same thing on most every song he picks. If he would show some control and do a song without all the screaming, (sorry) unneccesary falsetto I might get to like him. Danny makes you smile every single time he performs. Much easier to connect with...

for the younger ones. According to wikipedia, Lil was born in 1984. I think she should perform the #9 song of 1984, "Ghostbusters," by Ray Parker Jr.!

I'd love to hear her sing Purple Rain too!

Interesting point. Would Freddy Mercury win American Idol? Or would the homophobe vote be too strong? Would Elton John have a chance? Melissa Etheridge?

That's a good question. It wouldn't affect my vote, but I wonder about the country as a whole.

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Finally, Lady GaGa! WTF?
And they had the nerve to send somebody home after THAT!
It might have been okay if she just stayed behind the piano & did the dueling thing with the violin & vocals.
But as soon as she stepped out, she was pretty much interchangeable with Rhianna & Brittney & the rest of them.

I had to leave the room at that point. I thought it was 1974 again and I was watching the Midnight Special--when you'd see groups like Redbone and Focus dressed in weird costumes. LOL!

Depending on the competition, Elton & Melissa would possibly not get my vote in the end, based solely on their singing ability.
Freddy would absolutely get my vote no matter what.
I think Melissa's great...just not AI material.
Elton, I can take or leave.
But whatever the reason for someone voting however they vote, winning AI is not the standard by which we should judge musical talent anyway.
I got into it with someone on here a while back who tried to make the point that Springsteen was overrated & untalented because he would have never won AI.
So what?
I watch AI almost every week once they finish with the so called auditions. But I've never gone to a performance or bought any music by any AI winner yet.
And someone's sexual preference is a non issue with me unless I happen to want to date them.

I haven't read this whole thread so maybe somebody already said it, but the schizo former contestant killing herself near Paula Abdul's house put a bit of a taint on it for me. Not to mention that I've heard neither hide nor hair of: Jordin Sparks, Beau Bice, Reuben Studdard, Justin Guarini, and many others who made it to the Final Two. I see Taylor Hicks and David Archuleta's CD's at Wal-Mart, as well as David Cook's, but is anybody really buying them? I thought Jason Castro was great last year (John Travolta with dreads). Where did he go? It weakens the drama when you realize the grand prize is 15 minutes of fame and an album that goes cardboard. The real musicians are on MySpace nowadays.

I thought Jason Castro was great last year (John Travolta with dreads). Where did he go?

In the second row, watching.

Adam is a great rock singer, but I believe a singer in the pop genre has a better chance to win the prize.

Danny, has awesome tone and gives 100% on every note he sings.

Allison has great raw talent, and will go far, but not on AI.

Kris has really surprised me the last two weeks. I'm glad he's improved and think he will make it to the final 3, with Danny and Adam.

I haven't read this whole thread so maybe somebody already said it, but the schizo former contestant killing herself near Paula Abdul's house put a bit of a taint on it for me. Not to mention that I've heard neither hide nor hair of: Jordin Sparks, Beau Bice, Reuben Studdard, Justin Guarini, and many others who made it to the Final Two. I see Taylor Hicks and David Archuleta's CD's at Wal-Mart, as well as David Cook's, but is anybody really buying them? I thought Jason Castro was great last year (John Travolta with dreads). Where did he go? It weakens the drama when you realize the grand prize is 15 minutes of fame and an album that goes cardboard. The real musicians are on MySpace nowadays.

Carrie Underwood - how many Grammies!? Millions sold.
Kelly Clarkson - millions sold
Clay Aiken - millions sold
Daughtry - millions sold
David Cook - already platinum

There are a few who have turned it into success beyond that first album. But not many.

I've heard neither hide nor hair of ...
many ... who made it to the Final Two. ... It weakens the drama when you realize the grand prize is 15 minutes of fame and an album that goes cardboard.


I understand and agree with your post, to a point.

In my opinion, it's a question of the right artist combined with the right genre (and good material of course).

Look, no one is really going to buy Jordan Sparks or Taylor Hicks CDs (not in any big number anyway). Everyone, including Simon and the A/I producers knew that.

But . . .

If you get a very attractive young woman who can sing modern country songs well, then you got a successful money making machine on your hands. :wink:

And Chris Daughtry and Kelly Clarkson seem to be doing pretty well.

I agree there is no direct correlation between first or second and success but it can happen.

Clay Aiken.

Clay Aiken is gay?!!! :shock:

Clay Aiken is gay?!!! :shock:

it's just a rumour..:rolleyes:

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Seperated at birth:

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I can't stand people who trash other people and I am highly annoyed by the drawn out "suspense" waiting to find out who has won or lost, through long pauses or commercials. Basically, I have never been able to watch it for more than about 5 minutes even though my wife and daughter are addicted to it. I have to leave the room. It is a 1/2 hour show, tediously stretched in a one hour show.

Oh yah, sometimes there is some really good talent.

I can't stand people who trash other people and I am highly annoyed by the drawn out "suspense" waiting to find out who has won or lost, through long pauses or commercials. Basically, I have never been able to watch it for more than about 5 minutes even though my wife and daughter are addicted to it. I have to leave the room. It is a 1/2 hour show, tediously stretched in a one hour show.

Oh yah, sometimes there is some really good talent.

I agree with you, that's why I record it and fast forward to the parts that I really want to see...makes that hour show about 15 minutes on most nights.

Clay Aiken is gay?!!! :shock:




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The whole show is like an oozing, puss-filled, painful boil...but hey, it's still entertainment.:mrgreen:

The whole show is like an oozing, puss-filled, painful boil...but hey, it's still entertainment.:mrgreen:

Yeah, baby, doncha love it.....

Yeah, baby, doncha love it.....

Once again...I can't tell you how many times I've sworn off the show.
The "results shows" are ridiculous for reasons too numerous to list in a single post.

If you've ever seen Nashville Star before it was taken over & transformed to crap by NBC, you'd probably agree that it was a better format for this type of show..Not showing a bunch of attention seeking mental defectives "auditioning" for 4 - 6 hours a week during the first month of the season...One show per week & eliminating the person with the least amount of votes the previous week, at the end of that week's show by simply not having them perform on that show, thus adding an element of suspense to the show without dragging it out for an extra hour or 2.

Also, I mentioned earlier. But I think it bears mentioning again.
The freaks & weirdos you see on the "audition shows" have already auditioned for another set of "judges" before appearing on the show.
Apparently, the job of the first set of "judges" is to eliminate anyone good enough to cause much controversy in the "competition" unless they were enough of a freak show to put on & allow the celebrity "judges" to trash on national TV.

Still, IMO, there are some pretty good performances on the show. And some of the performers, while not going on to become superstars, will at least be seen & heard by someone who can appreciate their talents & with the right material, at least be able to make a decent living as a singer somewhere.
I'm pretty sure most of us on this forum who aren't stars would love to be able to make a living or at least a few bucks doing something they enjoy.

Also, I mentioned earlier. But I think it bears mentioning again.
The freaks & weirdos you see on the "audition shows" have already auditioned for another set of "judges" before appearing on the show.
Apparently, the job of the first set of "judges" is to eliminate anyone good enough to cause much controversy in the "competition" unless they were enough of a freak show to put on & allow the celebrity "judges" to trash on national TV.



As I have also mentioned . . .

Yes, of course. Thousands of "contestants" show up at each city "audition." The on-air judges see only about 120 or so.

So, obviously a lot of pre-screening goes on.
True, the "pre-judges" let some "funny ones" go throgh for their "entertainment" value.

But they also let through the ones with real talent. Otherwise those who can sing would never get on the show.

There's at least one or two contestants every season who are really good.
And there's also one or two every season who get through to the final 10,w ho leave me scratching my head & thinking, "with all the thousands of people who audition, they couldn't find anyone better than them?"
But I know people who've auditioned & were probably good enough to be at least top ten material who were eliminated by the judges before they probably should have been.
There was a girl who was a teller at my bank, who did make it on TV at least, but was eliminated the season that Taylor whatsisname won.
And my oldest daughter auditioned about 2 seasons ago & didn't even get to audition for the celebrity judges.
I'm not saying she would have won or anything...Just that she should have been given an honest shot instead of the likes of William Hung & such.
Maybe a little sour grapes. But my daughter's been singing with several bands & doesn't really need the AI BS anyway.
And I still watch the show. And so does she.

WOW! The 16 year old with the glow in the dark hair was just fantastic IMO. If she doesn't win, she should have no problem getting somekind of recording contract. Maybe I'm a bit biased because she sang one of my all time favorite songs...

The blind guy may be going home unfortunately.

The metro guy creeped me out once again...but he CAN sing like an angel.

Adam, Allison and maybe Danny

Adam, Allison and maybe Danny

Bingo, Bingy. The other week they made it clear that they would save Allison, so I don't see why they would not save Adam or Danny. Danny didn't do a great job, but I don't think he has a problem. Anoop did much better this week, although I had to fast forward through most of his song. Boring.

I thought Adam did a really good job this week. He toned down the ear-stabbing high notes it seemed, and it was enjoyable to listen to.

Hearing a 16 year old pull off Bonnie was incredible. I think she will go far, perhaps not on Idol, but who cares about that. Do not think she has a chance of winning the entire competition, but you never know.

Adam, Allison and maybe Danny

There's no doubt those three have the best voices; it's still hard for me to understand how Allison can end up in the bottom three. There's also no doubt, for me anyway, that Adam has the best of the best; just not sure if he can win the whole thing. Allison may be too young and Danny just may be the most marketable to the biggest audience....

Stay tuned....

Never watch the show, couldn't care less but may watch tonight since my Daughter is attending the taping tonight with her High School Dance yeam....

Adam, Allison and maybe Danny

That's my opinion exactly. With Matt (I think that's his name) a close 4th.

The final 4 contestants have already been leaked by Seacrest and he also admitted he knows who is getting voted off before the show starts.

The final 4 will be Adam Danny Allison and Kris according to the info thats been leaked so lets wait and see.

I wrote this in mesage #89 of this thread on March 19th so lets see what happens.

Allison was really good tonight she did that Bonnie Raitt song great.

The judges have wanted Adam to win for quite some time he did good too but I liked Allison best.

it's still hard for me to understand how Allison can end up in the bottom three.

It is young girls that are the majority of the voting block. Girls are more apt to vote for hot guys.

It is young girls that are the majority of the voting block. Girls are more apt to vote for hot guys.

You're right; if fact, I think I mentioned the same thing earlier in this thread. Still, you'd think that some of these young girls would aspire to be like Allison...look at all the young girls that like Hannah Montana....

And Lil still doesn't get it.

She's doing impersonations.

The first time I heard Lil she blew me away.
That was also the last time she blew me away.
Maybe she just wants out before she gets stuck with that AI contract that comes along with winning the thing.

They keep blowing a lot of smoke up the Justin Timberlake impersonator's rear end.
I thought he was flat a lot of the time last night. And his voice, to me , seems a little slow to respond sometimes when he does a run.
When he's on top of his game, he's not bad.
But they raved about him last night & I didn't think he was that good.

Allison was great last night. She's been consistently great.

I thought that story about the top 4 being leaked said it was Danny, Allison, Adam & Lil.
But I'll buy Kris instead of Lil.
He wasn't as good last night, I guess.
But he's been coming on strong the last few weeks.
I finally was able to remember his name.

lest you think Adam Lambert's version of Tear For Fears' "Mad World" was an original arrangement...here's the cover by Gary Jules from 2004 from which he swiped it:

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Kinda sad to see Scott go...he was so humble. But, alas, the pop music scene and humility do not go hand-in-hand. Example: the egotistical, talentless rapper dude with all the tats and chains. Question: Do women today REALLY think men are more attractive if their pants are around their thighs and their underwear are showing? Luckily they weren't tidy whiteys...I probably couldn't stomach the brown spot.:roll:

Kelly Pickler - you can take the girl out of the strip club, but you can't take the stripper out of the girl.:wink:

In summary, I think Scott would do EXCELLANT in a more inspirational music catagory. He's just out of his comfort zone on AI. Anoop dog will befall the same fate if he doesn't get rid of the Leave It To Beaver sweaters and ties next week.:sad:

I'll admit it.

I miss Megan. :cry:

I think the vote was right on; of the bottom three, Scott deserved to go...

It's a good thing Pickler was so hot-looking, I thought her voice was terrible....

And who WAS the rapper dude????

I just wish Scott had gotten down with something gut wrenching and emotional at least once before he left. Up and light kinda killed him. Maybe he just isn't up for gut wrenching. I think he will find his niche regardless.

I hope I never hear Anoop again after next week. Wish Lil would just go ahead and put her stamp on a song like Aretha does on everything she sings. That is her real challenge--to dominate her material.

I guess I'm ready for it to get down to the final three and not have to wade through the next few weeks. I think Kris, Matt and Anoop go next. After that, its really up to what Lil can pull out of the hat and how strong Allison brings it. The girls are going to have to challenge for the top spot after Adam and Danny.

Man, I can't believe I'm talking about American Idol! LOL! For some weird reason, I find it intriguing. My guilty pleasure I suppose.

I don't think Scott has an once of gut wrenching in his body.
He seemed like a decent guy & all. But a pretty mediocre singer.
And I don't know what that song was that he picked. But it reminded me of a Princess Song from a Disney movie, like Pocahontas or The Little Mermaid.
It was his time.

I expect the next to go would be Anoop, Lil & Matt, in that order.

I expect if they use the save at all, it will be for Lil or Matt, whichever is the first to get the boot. And then they both go the following week.

The funny thing about the show is, when it gets down to the point it's at now, there's usually the clear favorite who's always safe because he or she will get the votes they deserve.
Then you get the one who benefits from the VFTW vote & the votes of a certain demographic who won't be swayed by the actual performances as much as the looks, ethnic background or gimmick of their favorite, who seems to defy all logic to hang on longer than they should.
So if performer 1 is slightly better than 1-a, 1 will get all the votes, as they should...The fluke gets more than they should & 1-a gets the shaft.
So just because I expect it to go a certain way, doesn't mean I'd be shocked to see anything happen.

The funny thing about the show is, when it gets down to the point it's at now, there's usually the clear favorite who's always safe because he or she will get the votes they deserve.

Don't tell Chris Daugherty that.

It's a good thing Pickler was so hot-looking,



True.



I thought her voice was terrible....



It was.



And who WAS the rapper dude????



I have no freakin' idea.
But one web site says he has the number 1 record out now.
Huh?

Don't tell Chris Daugherty that.

Well that's kinda the point.
If on any given performance, someone else should blow everyone away, they'll end up getting the majority of the "real votes"...
I'm talking about the people who honestly vote for the best performance of the night.
The dopes are still gonna vote for their guy or girl.
And it's the person who may have been 1-a that comes up short on votes that week.
I don't remember a lot about that season. But I'm sure Chris is happy to be doing his own thing & not bound by the AI contract that forces the winner to record their crap songs & whatever else the producers & sponsers tell them to do.
I think Daughtry is a perfect example of someone reaping the maximum benefit from the exposure the show gives & getting out at the right time.

the Rapper was Flo Rida my homies...what the heck is a Rapper doin on A.I.
you gotta ask yourself..:shock:...and the confetti shower was rather cornball.

+1 on Scott getting the boot...I don't see much goin on there ...Anoop has got to go next I mean COME ON !!!

I don't remember a lot about that season. But I'm sure Chris is happy to be doing his own thing & not bound by the AI contract that forces the winner to record their crap songs & whatever else the producers & sponsers tell them to do.

I may be wrong about this, but everyone from the top 12 are owned by Simon Fuller. You commit to the summer road show and to record on his label.

I know they're stuck with the tour now.
That's a recent thing, like last season or so, I think.
But IMO, it's a plus to not have to do that obligatory album of crap songs they force the winner to do...at least if the artist can write or has some other source of material.
They destroyed Justin Guarini's (?) chance at a career & almost did the same for Kelly Clarkson by making them do that sub-crap movie after the first season.
Kelly's talented enough to bounce back from a bad career move or two.But Justin wasn't.
I'm not sure what other BS they've thrown into the deal now. But they do try to milk as much as possible out of the contestants.
It's just that they can't justify promoting everyone the same as the winner.So I expect there's no record deal.

I may be wrong about this, but everyone from the top 12 are owned by Simon Fuller. You commit to the summer road show and to record on his label.

The top 10 is who goes on the road but your correct Simon Fuller owns them for 1 year and they also take a huge % of the kids $$ way more than a regular manager would Ive heard its as much as 50%.

The top 10 is who goes on the road but your correct Simon Fuller owns them for 1 year and they also take a huge % of the kids $$ way more than a regular manager would Ive heard its as much as 50%.

how much would they be making if they had not been on American Idol?

how much would they be making if they had not been on American Idol?

The same amount they would be making for saying would you like some fries with that?

I may be wrong about this, but everyone from the top 12 are owned by Simon Fuller. You commit to the summer road show and to record on his label.


I'm not aware of the details, but everyone who auditions signs a contract when they walk through the door.

Maybe PapaBeef can fill us in on some of the details since I assume he (or someone else) signed one for his daughter.

lest you think Adam Lambert's version of Tear For Fears' "Mad World" was an original arrangement...here's the cover by Gary Jules from 2004 from which he swiped it:

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I thought he played with the melody enough to make it his own. However, when Lil "swiped" Tina Turner's arrangement, she stayed too close to the original. Too bad. I like her voice. I wish Kris had "swiped" the original Don Henley version of the song he did. That was awful.

The same amount they would be making for saying would you like some fries with that?
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
good comeback. i deserved that one!

I've been watching the show since the season Bo Bice was on.

There is a fundamental problem with the show: Weekly Themes.

And this has gotten worse over the years. For instance, it's stupid to have an R&B singer pick from Dolly Parton or Barry Gibb's catalog of songs that they've never, ever heard and therefore have no frame of reference or bonding to the songs. Then have the judges criticize them for poor song choice? Or poor arrangements? And then they give them some crap like "I don't know who you are as an artist with the way you did that" - uh, let's see, you guys gave them a list of songs that they have absolutely no connection with, parade them around like monkeys at a circus all week, and then expect them to make an artistic statement with a song that they would never sing in a million years.

I think they should let them sing any song they want each week. Then we'll know what sort of music they want to make.

I think they should let them sing any song they want each week. Then we'll know what sort of music they want to make.

+1. Like why should we care if they can sing EVERY genre? Hmm can they also do Tuvan throat singing??? Maybe that is next week's show.

When they record they will probably just record the music they like and the music they want to create. For instance, Lil won't be doing country songs.

I think Allison is the best in this regard, in that she does everything, even the country stuff, with a rock edge. It's obvious that she would record music in that vein as well.

Why not just have them do THEIR kind of music, and then judge them each week based on how they have improved? But I guess if one person did throat singing all season, and the fans didn't like throat singing, they would be off.

next week's theme is "songs from movies". ouch!

I can't believe a musician would not only watch but discuss this show. phooey.

I agree. I'm much more of a singer than a musician, so I should probably be happy that people can get away with looking and singing good and having zero musical talent, but I'm not. It's soulless.

It's soulless.

I agree 100%!

But that's what makes it fascinating! Like someone said...it's a trainwreck.:wink:

I honestly can't stand it one bit. I don't even like the premise.

I don't know, maybe I'm too cynical but I think gigging and struggle is a necessary part of the process.

Just my thoughts.

EDIT: Taylor Hicks was OK though....hypocrisy in action :lol:

I honestly can't stand it one bit. I don't even like the premise.

I don't know, maybe I'm too cynical but I think gigging and struggle is a necessary part of the process.

Just my thoughts.

EDIT: Taylor Hicks was OK though....hypocrisy in action :lol:

Over the last few seasons, most of the contestants have been struggling musicians. Most of them have been singing and performing for some time. American Idol is their big break, just as if a music exec walked into a little club in in a little town somewhere, and heard them, and offered them a recording contract.
However, on this show, the public gets to decide if they deserve it. I mean, come on, don't you wish you had been given a say in whether or not the Hansen Brothers, Jessica Simpson, or the Jonas Brothers got their recording contracts? We could have stopped the damage before it started. :lol:

I'm not aware of the details, but everyone who auditions signs a contract when they walk through the door.

Maybe PapaBeef can fill us in on some of the details since I assume he (or someone else) signed one for his daughter.

I never got to see the contract my daughter signed.
She's 27 so I didn't have to sign it.
I just found out that she auditioned after the fact.
But I'll ask her Sunday if I remember & let ya know.
It seems like they change the minutia from season to season to try & get as much out of the finalists as possible without promoting them much beyond the show.
The season that Constantine guy was on, I was in Tower Records & saw he had a CD for sale there.
He had just gotten eliminated. But the season was still going.
I never thought to check & see who produced the album or anything.

I've been watching the show since the season Bo Bice was on.

There is a fundamental problem with the show: Weekly Themes.

And this has gotten worse over the years. For instance, it's stupid to have an R&B singer pick from Dolly Parton or Barry Gibb's catalog of songs that they've never, ever heard and therefore have no frame of reference or bonding to the songs. Then have the judges criticize them for poor song choice? Or poor arrangements? And then they give them some crap like "I don't know who you are as an artist with the way you did that" - uh, let's see, you guys gave them a list of songs that they have absolutely no connection with, parade them around like monkeys at a circus all week, and then expect them to make an artistic statement with a song that they would never sing in a million years.

I think they should let them sing any song they want each week. Then we'll know what sort of music they want to make.

I've been saying the same thing since I first watched the show.
What show tune or Barry Mannello song would any rocker type possibly pick that would be a good choice for them?
If they do a bad version, they catch crap from the judges. And if they do a good job, they look like, as they say in Latin, A Dorkous Malorkous.
I think the themes are usually not great anyway. But when they do those two in particular, it's usually pretty painful to watch.

Over the last few seasons, most of the contestants have been struggling musicians. Most of them have been singing and performing for some time. American Idol is their big break, just as if a music exec walked into a little club in in a little town somewhere, and heard them, and offered them a recording contract.
However, on this show, the public gets to decide if they deserve it. I mean, come on, don't you wish you had been given a say in whether or not the Hansen Brothers, Jessica Simpson, or the Jonas Brothers got their recording contracts? We could have stopped the damage before it started. :lol:

Honestly, I've never voted,nor do I know anyone who has.
And I find it hard to believe every week when Seacrest claims that there were 30 million votes.
I don't know what Taylor Hicks got for making that Ford commercial they were airing every 15 seconds. But he shouldda gotten the chair.
Had I only known the world would be subjected to that, I would have tried to organize the people of the world to unite against VFTW & prevent that from ever happening.
But really, even though it may seem like these kids are competing to become an overnight sensation, it's a pretty intense experience for them.
It concentrates a lot of work into a relatively short time.
And you're exactly right. The ones who make the final 12 are usually doing clubs & open mikes & stuff & just decided or were convinced to take a shot.
That's why I hate the whole "audition shows" part of the show.
You get someone who tunes in early on & sees the jackasses & thinks that's what the show's all about.

Honestly, I've never voted,nor do I know anyone who has.
And I find it hard to believe every week when Seacrest claims that there were 30 million votes.

I know a woman who watched Canadian Idol every year, and always voted about 10 times per week. I like how Seacrest says 30 million votes, and not 30 million people.

I can just picture the tweens & a bunch of middle aged goofballs with no life, sitting on their bed or sofa with a death grip on their phone, frantically punching at the redial button.

I can just picture the tweens & a bunch of middle aged goofballs with no life, sitting on their bed or sofa with a death grip on their phone, frantically punching at the redial button.

Awesome! Somebody watches my webcam! :shock:

When they record they will probably just record the music they like and the music they want to create. For instance, Lil won't be doing country songs.




I'll bet someone coulda said the same thing about Whitney Houston before she recorded her amazing version of Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You." :wink:


As Jack (<---- ) has said many times - a great song is a great song is a great song.

I'll bet someone coulda said the same thing about Whitney Houston before she recorded her amazing version of Dolly Parton's "I Will Always Love You." :wink:


As Jack (<---- ) has said many times - a great song is a great song is a great song.

Hah got me there. I guess you can also say Johnny Cash's version of "Hurt."

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Originally Posted by FirstBassman View Post
I'm not aware of the details, but everyone who auditions signs a contract when they walk through the door.

Maybe PapaBeef can fill us in on some of the details since I assume he (or someone else) signed one for his daughter.
I never got to see the contract my daughter signed.
She's 27 so I didn't have to sign it.
I just found out that she auditioned after the fact.
But I'll ask her Sunday if I remember & let ya know.
It seems like they change the minutia from season to season to try & get as much out of the finalists as possible without promoting them much beyond the show.
The season that Constantine guy was on, I was in Tower Records & saw he had a CD for sale there.
He had just gotten eliminated. But the season was still going.
I never thought to check & see who produced the album or anything.
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What I mean is, sometimes I just don't know what I mean. Ya know what I mean?

Well I remembered to ask her yesterday. And she told me that after waiting around all day, when they finally got her inside they handed her a 15 or so page contract to sign before her audition.
She said she didn't remember any of the details as far as the post season obligations...Just that it gave them permission to show any footage of her on the show in whatever context they wanted to use it.
I guess that's where they get the montage clips of a bunch of goofballs butchering a song.
At least she was too good to make it into any of those.

Well I remembered to ask her yesterday. And she told me that after waiting around all day, when they finally got her inside they handed her a 15 or so page contract to sign before her audition.



Thanks P/B!

I would guess, among those 15 pages, is something along the lines of "we own you."

.... followed by the line "and we know you dont care."

I guess after standing in the rain for 8 hours or so, once you get inside you'd probably sign just about anything just so they don't send you back out in the rain...
As long as she didn't have to sign it in blood...

Just caught the show...the screamer dude did Born to Be Wild...don't think I ever heard a man sing that high before in my life!?

Other than that, I thought Anoop Dog did the best...

Miley Cyrus is going to be the guest on tommorrow night...OH BOOOOYYYYEEEE...

I'm starting not to like "the screamer dude". Seems like his take on every song is to show how he can hit those unbelievable high notes. I think Simon was right on when he said his performance was like watching the Rocky Horror Picture Show (even though I love that movie). Still think he may be the most marketable of the bunch, though....

Last week I was saying Anoop had to go next. But honestly, I'm ready to see Lil go.
She's not performed up to expectations in quite a while now.
Anoop's inconsistent. But when he's good, he's good.
She's just been consistently meh.
I think I'll take a pass on tonight's results show, which promises to be a crapfest.

Last week I was saying Anoop had to go next. But honestly, I'm ready to see Lil go.
She's not performed up to expectations in quite a while now.
Anoop's inconsistent. But when he's good, he's good.
She's just been consistently meh.
I think I'll take a pass on tonight's results show, which promises to be a crapfest.

I am proud to say I have not watched one results show all year. Getting the results on the net has made the whole thing more palatable.

Lil has gotta go. I am rooting for the young girl.

Dan

I think I'll take a pass on tonight's results show, which promises to be a crapfest.

Papa, how can you possibly NOT watch, come on, you know you want to....:mrgreen:

For anyone who watches and enjoys American Idol (and I do), you might enjoy this guys blog. Hes a TV writer and he has a dry, sarcastic view on each weeks show. Always make makes me laugh:

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/

Papa, how can you possibly NOT watch, come on, you know you want to....:mrgreen:

After seeing Lady Ga GA, my life is complete.
I don't really need to see Miley tonight.

For anyone who watches and enjoys American Idol (and I do), you might enjoy this guys blog. Hes a TV writer and he has a dry, sarcastic view on each weeks show. Always make makes me laugh:

http://kenlevine.blogspot.com/


Thanks for that site, it was great....

DVR is the best thing for AI... it lets you skip past the filler, which is 99% of the results show.

IMHO Kris was my favorite last night. I like how he picked an Oscar winning song that was "obscure."

Allison was very good - I still can't believe she has those pipes at just 16 years old.

Lil was not good last night. She really butchered The Rose. That song has such a great melody - it did NOT need the cliche' runs and most definitely did not benefit from the gospel/R&B treatment.

AnoopDog sounded fantastic - great pure clean tone.

Danny was very, very good - he's still my favorite this season.

Adam was impressive from a technical standpoint. The way he hits those notes with seemingly no effort is unreal. I can't stand Born To Be Wild (never could) but I enjoyed his version much more than the original. Having said that, it was very self indulgent and too over the top.

Kris literally put me to sleep. That was a boring song that he somehow made more boring.

Matt was just alright last night.

What was the deal with Quentine Tarantino giving advice to the contestants? I didn't even know he was a singer.:?:...but then again, seems like nobody fits in properly on that show.:lol:

Indeed Anoop surprisingly did a very nice job.

Screaming guy (Adam) is starting to get on my nerves.

And it's time to publically state that Lil misses a lot of notes.
She's technically not as a good a singer as we originally thought.

Well, the judges used "the save" tonight. My guess why they used it was they only had one more week (I think) and the bottom three tonight will probably be the same next week. I believe they think Lil should have gone tonight so they might as well save Matt since they sure weren't gonna save her, tonight, or next week. Bad news for both of them is that two get sent home next week.

Oh, boy, disco next week, I can hardly wait.....

Who were the bottom 3 tonight?
I take it Matt was voted off & they saved him.
I'm kinda glad they got that out of the way.
But unless he kicks butt next week, he might end up going home with Lil next week.
On the other hand, I don't know if Anoop can pull off the disco thing.
i can just picture him in his Beaver Cleaver sweater trying to play Disco Stew & failing miserably.

Who were the bottom 3 tonight?

Lil, Matt, Anoop

Well, I guess that's about right.
I don't know what the judges see in Matt.
I agree with you, Joe.
They'll probably be the bottom 3 next week as well.
Maybe get rid of Matt & Lil in one fell swoop.
But one thing I haven't changed my opinion on in all these years...
Disco Sucks...Always has...always will.
It just kills me how at this stage of the game, they dust off such a lame @$$ theme for next week.

I think the Screamer could easily pull off some BeeGees stuff...
I hope Lil does some Donna Summer...
Maybe Anoop could try Play That Funky Music...
If we're lucky, somebody will do some KC and the Sunshine...

I may have to call in sick next week.:neutral:

I keep waiting for Adam Mr Scream to do a Queen song. He could do several Queen songs good.

What would be funny now that they used that new save feature is if Danny or Adam 2 of the judges favs got voted off they would have thought they wasted the save on Matt.

2 people will be voted off next week my guess is it will be Matt and Lil Rounds and then Anoop and the final 4 will be Adam Allison Danny and Kris just as Seacrest leaked that info way back on March 19th.

2 people will be voted off next week my guess is it will be Matt and Lil Rounds and then Anoop and the final 4 will be Adam Allison Danny and Kris just as Seacrest leaked that info way back on March 19th.

Mark, who did he leak this info to????

I saw a story about a leak on the AOL.
I don't know if it was supposed to have been Seacrest who leaked it or someone else.
But I thought it said Adam, Danny, Allison & Lil.

IMO based on the performances of the past several weeks, Lil has no shot of being around much longer anyway.

And the judges are so in love with Matt, which I totally don't get, that I can't believe if they were gonna rig it, they'd keep Kris over Matt.

Mark, who did he leak this info to????

Oprah. The way he said it was kinda sneaky she asked him who he thought the final 4 would be and he said well it could be Adam Allison Danny and Kris but when he said that it was so early in the season he had to know something and let it slip.

I saw a story about a leak on the AOL.
I don't know if it was supposed to have been Seacrest who leaked it or someone else.
But I thought it said Adam, Danny, Allison & Lil.

IMO based on the performances of the past several weeks, Lil has no shot of being around much longer anyway.

And the judges are so in love with Matt, which I totally don't get, that I can't believe if they were gonna rig it, they'd keep Kris over Matt.

When Matt does Ray Charles or anything blues/jazz based he is good when he tried to do tha Coldplay song he was horrible.

The judges have actually saved matt twice he was already out and they saved him with a wildcard pick.

Simon said after they saved him remember now next week 2 people get voted off so be happy now cause it might not last long. I thought reading between the lines that ment if Matt wasnt really good he would go off next week anyway.

Even tho Im pretty sure Adam is gonna win Allison could actually make Simon more $$ which is all the show is really all about.

The last few guys that have won didnt do much David Cook and Taylor Hicks both flopped as did Ruben the only guys that have really done alot after Idol were people who got voted off too soon or came in second like Clay Akin and Daughtry.

Adam Lambert rock. Stage presence plus

The last few guys that have won didnt do much David Cook and Taylor Hicks both flopped as did Ruben the only guys that have really done alot after Idol were people who got voted off too soon or came in second like Clay Akin and Daughtry.

You've forgotten Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood.

He said guys

Papa, how can you possibly NOT watch, come on, you know you want to....:mrgreen:

I'd rather be raped in prison than watch AI.

You've forgotten Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood.

Thats why I said the last few guys that have won didnt do much. Clarkson and Underwood are women not guys they both won and have done better than anyone else thats been on AI.

Oh BTW I thought Jennifer Hudsons performance wasnt good at all she was out of tune and not any better than any of the kids on the show. She deserved to get voted off early in the season she was on.

OK, disco night is over (thank goodness); Lil is gone for sure, but I'm not sure who else. For the first time, I really liked Kris' performance. It was unique and I thought he sounded really good. Matt also did well. Adam, Danny and Allison have got to be safe, although Allison was in the bottom three a couple of weeks ago. I'm going with Anoop, I'm really getting tired of his outfits and his song choice....

Personally, I like Anoops voice. But, yeah, I think he will go because of his lack of stage appeal...kind of a sign of the times.:sad:

Other than that, it beats me who will go with him. They all sang much better than most singers on the radio today. Maybe if we're lucky, they will all tie and everyone will get voted off at once.:wink:

Thank God disco night's over.
I'll tellyawut...
Kris took a disco song & turned it into something that didn't suck.
Amazing.
And to think I couldn't even remember his name until about 2 weeks ago.
Lil proved she needs to go.
She totally doesn't get it. Plus she's not nearly as good as I thought she was early on.
Matt probably could go.
But I agree, Anoop's Beaver Cleaver outfits are getting old.
He thinks he's gonna be an R&B star. But the part just doesn't suit him.

I'd rather be raped in prison than watch AI.

I hope you're only joking.:shock::razz:
I know your musical taste & I like the stuff you've recommended. So I know you're not a dope.
I'm not gonna twist your arm to make you watch AI.
But don't think because you've seen some clips of some weirdos from the beginning of the season, that there's not any real talent on the show.
Sure, it's not your thing. But talent is talent.
And even disco night beats being raped in prison in my book.

The bottom 3 will be Lil Matt and Anoop.

LIL and Matt will go home.

As usual Adam and Allison were the best.

I think the final 4 will be Adam Allison Danny and Kris just as Seacrest leaked way back in march and the final 2 will be Adam and Allison and Adam will win.

I will laugh my A$$ off if somehow Adam screws up and gets voted off and the jiudges cant use their new fake save feature cause they already wasted it on Matt.