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COMPLETED -The LumberCaster

Maricopa
February 13th, 2009, 04:14 PM
It's gonna rain all weekend here so this should be a good excuse not to sit inside and watch DVDs.
Here's the beginning. Gonna do it 'Dano' style with a 2X4 and some 1/4" MDF.

(please ignore the '12' in the date. Not sure what I was doing there. :confused: )

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah1.jpg

Maricopa
February 13th, 2009, 05:42 PM
A few minutes with the thickness sander and joiner and we have the frame glued-up.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah2.jpg

Big Mike Simpson
February 13th, 2009, 10:17 PM
Maybe a Telelectro...

Maricopa
February 13th, 2009, 10:32 PM
Or the 'DanoTele' :cool:

After another pass through the sander to true up the laminates the frame, top and back are trimmed out, a couple wiring holes drilled in the center block and the top is glued on.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah3.jpg

The back comes next but first I need to do a little planning and decide whether the controls will mount on top with a pickguard or from the rear. Time to dig through the 'pile 'o stuff' and see what's available.
Hmmm....

Maricopa
February 14th, 2009, 01:57 AM
OK, last stuff for tonight. Decided to install the controls from the back so I used a hole saw to cut a round hole then added a small 'donut' behind it with a couple tabs for the screws. Then the back got glued on.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah5.jpg

I have an Eastwood neck position P-90 left over from the Esquire-style build and it was only fifteen bucks so it gets the nod. This will be a single pickup guitar.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah4.jpg

Tomorrow I'll double stick tape the pattern on and use a follower bit to clean up the edges. Then route the neck pocket and p/u cavities.

jkingma
February 14th, 2009, 09:12 AM
Nice work Mike. Can't wait to see the final result!

Maricopa
February 14th, 2009, 11:51 AM
Hey John, small web eh? :mrgreen:

After 3 'nice' guitars in a row this budget build is a breath of fresh air! It's gonna be fun to be let loose with the details.

jkingma
February 14th, 2009, 12:15 PM
Yeah, it will be fun. If I had known this contest was going to happen I would have waited to build THIS (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/telecaster-discussion-forum/126473-its-time-build-telecrapster.html) guitar. I think it came in under budget. :smile:

Maricopa
February 14th, 2009, 12:24 PM
This guitar could have qualified too http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/147680-p-90-esquire-ish-build.html but I wasn't willing to sell it for $100! :shock:

jkingma
February 14th, 2009, 12:29 PM
Yeah that one is definitely a keeper. I saw it on the MIMF a short while ago.

Maricopa
February 14th, 2009, 04:14 PM
Routed, rolled and sanded. And yes, that's bondo, the 2X4 had some 'goobers' and I went a little too quick with the round-over bit on the horn so a little Rage™ cleaned everything right up. I'll be doing an opaque finish anyway.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah6.jpg

Now on to lunch, and then the neck.

Maricopa
February 15th, 2009, 12:45 AM
Now here's where things get a little crazy. This is the neck blank and the truss rod....yes it's a piece of 3/16" square steel and it's gonna be epoxied in that mortice. I've been building since the late '90s and have done many necks on acoustics, resonators and electrics like this and all of them have remained dead straight. That said, most of the time on electric necks I use an adjustable rod but this budget build cried out for simplicity.

Even though the lack of adjustability is a drawback for those that like a little relief I will say that necks with a solid bar sound a hell of a lot better than those with adjustable rods. When you 'rap' on them they ring much louder than those with airspace inside. Not saying that makes a huge audible difference when the guitar is together, but it can't hurt.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah7.jpg

Here it is epoxied and clamped in. I also made a maple board and cut the fret slots. I'll glue it up after the epoxy has set a bit and in the morning it will be ready for fretting and shaping.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah8.jpg

Taipan
February 15th, 2009, 12:06 PM
Looking good. Love the single pickup in the neck idea.

Maricopa
February 15th, 2009, 03:41 PM
It's tuner time. I had no 6 on-a-side sets laying around so I dug into my cache of open back Grover 18-1s. A few years ago some friends and I bought 100 or so sets for $15ea and split them up. What I did here was simply grind off the tabs so they'd butt up and form a single hole. That narrowed the post-to-post distance enough to fit my headstock (not the headstock in the pick BTW, just a test piece).

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah9.jpg

Of course now I have to make a reverse-head guitar sometime down the road to use the orphans. :mrgreen:

Maricopa
February 15th, 2009, 10:59 PM
Here's where it stands after 2.5 days. Body is done except for some holes for the controls, jack and bridge. Neck is fitted for tuners, dotted and fretted but still needs carved. I used the same plastic tubing made for side dots on the front of the fretboard. Not sure I like it but it will be a PITA to change at this point.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah11.jpg

Made a neck plate from 1/8" aluminum and am thinking a Dano-style matching bridge might be just the ticket here.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah10.jpg

Maricopa
February 17th, 2009, 12:43 AM
Back at it after work today. Got the neck carved and a washcoat of garnet shellac on it. The shellac adds a little vintage vibe. Not completely happy yet with the profile so that will probably change some. Got a little eager with the belt sander so it's going to be a vintage 'V' shape and a little thinner than I usually carve 'em.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah15.jpg

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah12.jpg

I decided to go string through so I grabbed some 1/8 X 3/4" aluminum stock and drilled and countersunk some holes. Then I set it into the back far enough to keep the ball ends from sticking out and epoxied it in.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah14.jpg

Here's the beginning of the bridge. Again, 1/8" aluminum from stock you can get at Homey or ACE. The 4 holes in the center will be for some small screws that will attach a wooden piece, probably Rosewood. I haven't decided whether to use a bone insert or just do it like Dano did.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah13.jpg

Just a comment on budget building, in reading the lead thread on this challenge I saw a few posts saying you couldn't build a guitar for under $100. Well, so far, everything included, I have about $50 in this one. That's the wood, tuners, control pot and $15 P-90 from Eastwood. I've got a few years worth of 'stash' so most of this is scrounged. So far all I've had to go out and buy is some stainless screws and a new bottle of Tite-Bond. Rattlecan paint will probably add another $20 or so.

Yes my guitar is a quite a ways from an ash body, three-barrel saddle twangster but it's gonna sound great and weigh about 6 lbs. This has also all been done since about 2PM on Friday. Yes I have a lot of tools that speed up the process and yes I've built guitars much 'nicer' than this, and that took me months to finish but this stuff ain't rocket surgery. So for anyone that's hesitant to do the DIY thing I can only say go for it. If a schlub like me can do it anyone can.

Mark-00255
February 17th, 2009, 01:02 AM
I think this is a very cool build, man! Nice work all the way around!

One question: Where did you get the Eastwood P-90? I would sure like to try one of those!

Maricopa
February 17th, 2009, 01:13 AM
Thanks Mark. I got them from Big Mike Simpson that posts here and he got them from Eastwood. I checked the site but didn't see them available but I might be missing the correct page somehow.
I looked on eBay though, and there are deals to be had.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Guitar-Parts-Set-of-2-BLACK-P90-Pickups-SOAPBAR_W0QQitemZ400030834421QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGu itar_Accessories?hash=item400030834421&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C 240%3A1318%7C301%3A0%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50

Maricopa
February 18th, 2009, 02:34 AM
Got the bridge done and strung up the outside strings just to make make sure everything was OK. On top of the aluminum it's walnut with a rosewood saddle. A couple screws go in through the underside of the aluminum to hold the walnut 'base' on.
I'll be able to mess around with different woods, bone or metal for the saddle to see what that does to the tone.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/Copy%20of%20100_dollah15.jpg

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah16.jpg

And a shot of the modified tuners on the headstock.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah17.jpg

All that's left is to figure out a color, spray it and and wire it up. I also have a scrap of MOTS left over from a lap steel build that I'll make a small pickguard from.

lammy
February 18th, 2009, 04:45 PM
Can i see the lap steel build?

nasonm
February 18th, 2009, 04:58 PM
I love the idea of a single neck p90!

Maricopa
February 18th, 2009, 05:57 PM
Sorry lammy I can't find any pics of it on the new computer, it was a long time ago. It looked a little like this one but with a MOTS fretboard and headstock overlay.
http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/top_3:4.jpg

Nason I've made a couple different guits with P-90s and I love 'em!
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos

twangcaster1
February 18th, 2009, 06:10 PM
That looks like a friggin' awesome build, man!

Parma_TeleMon
February 19th, 2009, 06:14 PM
This guitar could have qualified too http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-home-depot/147680-p-90-esquire-ish-build.html but I wasn't willing to sell it for $100! :shock:

VERY nice!!:mrgreen:

Maricopa
February 21st, 2009, 01:30 AM
Thanks guys.
Progress has slowed in the last couple days. I got some free paint and am trying to decide whether I like the color enough to use it. In the meantime I made a small pick guard.
I first cut a pattern in 1/4" MDF then used a 1/8" round over bit in the router table to trim it out. It still has the plastic stuff on it so it's a little hazy looking.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/hunnerd_dollah_guard.jpg

Maricopa
February 25th, 2009, 06:42 PM
We got color! In the spirit of 'cheep' it's 10 yr old rattlecan forklift paint supplied by Big Mike. Some sort of enamel and kind of a cool color. Should look good with the brushed aluminum, black and MOTS. The neck will be clear except for the headstock.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/100_dollah_color.jpg

[Edit] Looks like I cut my finger off doesn't it? Well, I didn't. :mrgreen:

This is completely off topic but purty. I re-sawed and joined this yesterday. It's the top on a new lapsteel I'm building.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/joined_top.jpg

onelung
February 26th, 2009, 01:14 PM
that is some beautiful grain. Excellent build Maricopa. Hats off to you.

lammy
February 26th, 2009, 01:38 PM
Love everything. That grain is amazing.

Parma_TeleMon
February 26th, 2009, 02:17 PM
Uh, "damn, that's purdy!" hardly covers it, but, Damn, that's purdy!

Maricopa
February 27th, 2009, 12:40 AM
I hate to even say this, but it cost me all of $14 for that piece of quilty goodness!! Today I went back to the same place and bought a plank of ash for the lap steel body and found a slightly wider piece of maple that's almost, but not quite, as nice as the one shown. Sometimes you get lucky. :mrgreen:

Scatter Lee
February 27th, 2009, 12:46 AM
I do like that blue

mobman924
February 27th, 2009, 02:17 PM
I used to have a van in that blue.

jkingma
February 27th, 2009, 02:23 PM
Excellent work, Mike.

Maricopa
February 27th, 2009, 02:29 PM
This is the part that sucks, waiting for the paint to dry.
I'm anticipating playing this one more than most. Fortunately I have that maple and some koa to play with in the meantime.

Sure has been fun watching the other builds. There are some damn inventive (and frankly, fookin' nootz :mrgreen: ) people here.

Tdot
March 1st, 2009, 12:26 PM
One of the favorite guitars I've played was a '60s Epiphone Century (small hollow body, single P90 neck pup). This is getting fun.

Zmatko
March 1st, 2009, 03:36 PM
WOW!

.. and that "small pick guard" is well, cute. :lol:

IrishMail
March 4th, 2009, 12:46 AM
Sure has been fun watching the other builds. There are some damn inventive (and frankly, fookin' nootz :mrgreen: ) people here.

You talkin' ta' me? - Are you talkin' ta' ME?
http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/IrishMail/Spa-Caster%202009/StumpfFiddle-a.jpg

Whoo-Hoo! Absolutely great job.

Maricopa
March 10th, 2009, 11:34 AM
Well, it's pretty much done. I was missing a nut for the output jack so I still need to wire it and do the set-up (details, details :cool: ). I'll post a YouTube clip of it this weekend but here it is.

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/hunnerd_done_full.jpg

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/hunnerd_done_front.jpg

http://members.cox.net/mdotson6/hunnerd_done_back.jpg

I counted everything in my cost figgers and had almost everything laying around. A few things I bought even though I didn't need to like a nice solid-shaft pot and a black knob to match the P-90
So here's my breakdown:
Body: 6' 2X4 and 1/3 sheet of 1/4" mdf. $10.00
Neck: 3/4" maple board: $7.00
Tuners: Modified 18:1 Grover Stay-Tites $15 (bought 'em in bulk some years back)
Pick-Up: Eastwood P-90 $15
Pickguard: Off cut of a piece MOTS I bought about 10 years ago. $5.00
Bridge, Neck plate and string anchor: 1/8" aluminum. $2.00
Finish: 2 cans of 10yr old forklift paint $0
One can of ACE clear lacquer. $6.00
Vol pot, screws, knob and strap buttons. $15.00

Total: $75 if I bought everything new. Actual outlay at the time of build was around $30.
This was definitely a 'slap-happy' build. It has a 10ft finish and I didn't exactly sweat the details but I had fun and it was a stress-free build. A nice change of pace.

jkingma
March 10th, 2009, 11:58 AM
Mike! That looks incredible. Very simple and elegant. Everything I love about a Tele made even simpler. Can't wait to see your YouTube clip.

Fatmanstratman
March 10th, 2009, 04:09 PM
Well, it's pretty much done.
And it certainly LOOKS pretty too!...:cool:

Yet another example of the ingenuity, determination and hard work shown by all the guys who have entered this challenge.

This is great work, Maricopa - congratulations!

Wow! We certainly have some talented folks around here. I feel truly humbled....

winny pooh
March 10th, 2009, 04:39 PM
Super cool! Love the art deco vibe!

Zmatko
March 10th, 2009, 04:42 PM
This is a truly cool build, it really is.

TDPRI
March 10th, 2009, 06:25 PM
I'll wait until you put your YouTube clip in this thread before closing it. OK?

Maricopa
March 10th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Sounds good. It's a slow week (too damn many of them lately) so I'll probably get it done in the next couple days.

Thanks for all the comments guys.

Mark-00255
March 11th, 2009, 12:34 AM
Looks good, Maricopa! I'll be interested to hear that Eastwood P-90!

iansmitchell
March 11th, 2009, 01:08 AM
Wonder how she'll sound!

Maricopa
March 11th, 2009, 10:57 AM
I shouldn't do these things so late at night but here it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCVmhVI4ZFM&feature=channel_page

Big Mike Simpson
March 11th, 2009, 11:37 AM
Way cool, I bet you can get a stacked pot like Dano uses to add a tone pot.

TDPRI
March 11th, 2009, 12:09 PM
Here's the video embedded:

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Very cool. The video was a NICE touch. Way to go.