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How Do Modern Squire Necks And Fender Necks Differ? Whole Guitars For That Matter...

Deadsy
September 10th, 2008, 12:29 AM
What separates a squire neck from a fender neck? for that matter, what about the bodies? i know the hardware and electronics differ (well.. I'm not POSSITIVE, conformation would be nice) because they are made cheaper, but what about the main stuff?
thank you in advance :)

MulliganChebichev
September 10th, 2008, 01:04 AM
Fender uses ash, alder, and occasionally mahogany. Currently Squier usually uses Agathis (a.k.a poor man's mohogany), occasionally alder and pine.

Necks I don't know, they're both made of maple and/or rosewood, I don't know if there is a lesser maple. My guess is they save a buck by going cheap on the finish and fret.

Nick JD
September 10th, 2008, 02:46 AM
Squire necks are 1/4 to 1/6th of the cost. :lol::mrgreen: That's about it. They're made from the same stuff on the same machines.

PJ
September 12th, 2008, 10:37 PM
It looks like the grade of maple - density, grain, that kind of thing - and finishing, that separates the two. Fret work, as well. Kinda what makes the CV unique (and the Made in India guitars). They have fairly nicely-done finishes that are normally found on higher-end Fenders. I'm working on one now - what I've found, is that if you find one of decent wood, with a nice finish, polish the frets, get rid of any sharp ends and tweak the nut a bit, you'll have a decent Fender neck. Oh, and replace the tuners. It's a bit of work, but some of the recent Squier stuff is OK with a little hand-picking and work.

Jerolin
September 12th, 2008, 11:22 PM
It isn't always the case but Squier necks tend to be on the thinner side, which I don't like. I also got one that had a really crappy fret job, but other than that they're pretty good. It's all a matter of taste, but it doesn't get much better than a nice thick all maple Fender MIM or American neck. Maybe it's just me.

mcearlock
September 13th, 2008, 02:33 PM
Squire necks are 1/4 to 1/6th of the cost. :lol::mrgreen: That's about it. They're made from the same stuff on the same machines.

the bolt holes for the neck are different !! wont work i tried and finally ordered a new neck

beep.click
September 13th, 2008, 02:40 PM
The main consistent difference between Fender and Squier necks is the logo. Seriously.

Jack Wells
September 13th, 2008, 02:41 PM
the bolt holes for the neck are different !! wont work

I must correct my earlier statement on the matter. I think it may depend on where the Squier is from. The neck from one of my Squier '51s (Indonesia) has the same hole pattern and location as Fender. The neck from my Vintage Modified Thinline (China) has the same hole pattern but the distance from the heel end of the neck pocket is different.

Most modern American Fender necks have the Bi-Flex truss rod. In most cases you can identify such a neck by the truss rod adjustment hole at the headstock. If it has a walnut plug with a hole in it, it is most likely a Bi-Flex neck. A feature which I feel is seldom necessary.

e-merlin
September 13th, 2008, 06:33 PM
I must correct my earlier statement on the matter. I think it may depend on where the Squier is from. The neck from one of my Squier '51s (Indonesia) has the same hole pattern and location as Fender. The neck from my Vintage Modified Thinline (China) has the same hole pattern but the distance from the heel end of the neck pocket is different.


I must chime in here, since I'm in the process of putting a lefty Big Headstock Squier Strat (Indonesian) neck on my MIM Tele. The fit is snug but the holes don't line up like a previous (MIM, but not the original one) did. I'm having to fill and drill the neck. Yes, I'm taking pics so I can post the process.

And, yes, the Squier necks are usually thinner than the ones you can get on USA or MIM Fender guitars, but Fender has produced some really thin necks, too. 90s MIJ Strats and Teles come to mind. I've had several of those that had thinner necks than the Squier Strat neck I'm using right now.