RickG501 May 13th, 2008, 11:55 PM They've got to be kidding...over a $1000 and it has a bolt on neck????
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Gibson-Acoustic-DSR-Dreadnaught-Acoustic-Guitar?sku=516431
johnnykf May 14th, 2008, 04:21 AM It must be one of those Canadian Garrisons, Gibson bought them out and is slapping their logo on them
Dennis68 May 14th, 2008, 06:02 AM It must be one of those Canadian Garrisons, Gibson bought them out and is slapping their logo on them
That's exactly what it is. The good news is Garrison is a better solotion than China's factories for many reasons!
johnnykf May 14th, 2008, 11:33 AM I agree, you don't have to worry about exposure to lead in the paint or whatever other toxic things that may be in them. All you have to do is invert the guitar and shake the Labatts bottlecaps out of the soundhole (lol)
studio1087 May 14th, 2008, 11:44 AM Not gettng good reviews....
http://www.acousticguitar.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=028262
Stuco May 16th, 2008, 09:45 PM Taylors have bolt on necks and sell for like a bazillion dollars.
esteban May 16th, 2008, 09:50 PM Taylors have bolt on necks and sell for like a bazillion dollars.
I was just about to say that.
But the construction of a Taylor bolt-on is a bit different, I think.
studio1087 May 16th, 2008, 11:05 PM I don't think the new Gibson has a mortise & Tenon joint with a bolt in it....I think it's a bolt-on. Like a Tele.
The only Taylors with a bolt-on are the Baby Taylor @ $249 and the Big Baby Taylor at $399; each of these models have two big bolts right through the fretboard.
eryque May 17th, 2008, 08:01 PM I don't think the new Gibson has a mortise & Tenon joint with a bolt in it....I think it's a bolt-on. Like a Tele.
The only Taylors with a bolt-on are the Baby Taylor @ $249 and the Big Baby Taylor at $399; each of these models have two big bolts right through the fretboard.
How do they hide the heads of the bolts? I looked at pictures on Taylor's site and didn't see any evidence of the bolts at the fretboard.
The only joint talked about in Taylor's FAQs is the New Technology one, which I have to say is pretty damned fine piece of engineering.
Colt W. Knight May 17th, 2008, 08:09 PM They probably bolt from inside the body of the guitar, not on the back like a tele.
Some Martins have bolt on necks too, but they are also grove fitted then bolted into place.
eryque May 17th, 2008, 08:53 PM The Martins with the bolts are the ones with what they call a mortis and tenon joints, which is the groove you're talking about.
Interestingly, all of the necks get fitted with threaded steel inserts whether they have dovetails or or straight tenons. They thread a long wooden handle into those holes to handle the necks during production. Kinda neat.
freddie May 18th, 2008, 12:56 AM Most Taylor guitars are a type of bolt on neck. My Taylor 712 is bolt on type, but I can't say that in my humble opinion, it is lacking any tone that another dovetail type of neck gitar may have. Then again, I perfer the Tele to the dovetailed Les Paul... might be the pick ups though...
freddie
aunchaki May 18th, 2008, 07:15 AM Let's be clear about what we mean by "bolt-on" neck. There's the type of bolt on that we see in our Telecasters (neck plate on back, screws coming into the back of the neck). Some acoustics have such a neck (e.g. some Epiphones from the 1970s). I've played a few of them and thought they were fine (I wouldn't reject a guitar because of it). If you can find an Epiphone Bard for cheap, get it!
Then there the mortise-and-tenon bolt-on neck, like you can see in this pic:
http://www.stewmac.com/catalog/product_detail/5295_detail.jpg
This style of bolt-on is a different take on the dovetail joint. I can't really judge the differences between these two styles (dovetail & mortise-and-tenon bolt-on), but I've probably played both in stores and not known it.
One thing I do know: I have a set-neck electric that developed a loose neck joint, and it basically ruined the guitar (fixing it would cost way more that I bought it for). The idea of a bolt-on neck doesn't scare me. Like anything, I'm sure there are good ones and bad ones.
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