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catalankid April 24th, 2008, 12:22 AM When I got my new MIM Tele early this year, I had a local shop lower the action and check intonation. I had it set up with 10-46 strings. Lately she's buzzing a bit, so I adjusted the saddles up slightly. when I say slightly, I mean a full turn on each screw with the allen wrench. This raised the action a bit, but I want to know, will this adjustment affect intonation? If the action is higher to where it gets annoying to play, do I have another recourse in the way of setup to improve playability? I've heard discussions on this forum about crowning frets. How can I know if that's what she needs? The neck looks pretty straight to me. Let me know what you think.:?:
getbent April 24th, 2008, 12:29 AM First, I'd put the saddles back where they were...
second, where is it buzzing? is it just on the e and a strings and between the first and third frets? is it all the strings? we gotta know more!
There is a complex relationship among the nut, frets, saddles, neck angle etc that make for a good setup...
adjusting the saddles does change the intonation.
WisconsinStrings April 24th, 2008, 12:42 AM If you have a chromatic tuner, it's very easy to tell if the intonation is on or off.
catalankid April 24th, 2008, 11:20 AM Thanks guys, I checked her this morning, there is more tension on the strings now, and a slight buzz on all strings on frets 7-12. I also checked intonation with my tuner on fret 12-still good. I could probably live with this higher action because I want to avoid buzz, but I miss the feeling of lesser string tension when I play. This is my first tele, and I haven't played enough of them to know the difference. Any ideas would be appreciated.
Deaf Eddie April 24th, 2008, 11:55 AM If you have a "new" buzz on all strings on that many frets, my money is on on the trussrod...
Jelly April 24th, 2008, 11:58 AM I don't think I've ever played a Fender that didn't have a little fret rattle to some degree.
catalankid April 24th, 2008, 01:54 PM Thanks again for the comments. Deaf Eddie, I don't have a new buzz, I think I just improved it from what it was. I just like my notes to sound clean and well-intonated, and I want to hear notes inside the chords to sound clean, no matter how high up on the neck I'm playing. I can probably get used to it where it is now, but I miss the looser feel of the strings where they were. A catch 22 for me.
surfoverb April 24th, 2008, 02:10 PM Next time you have it set up and it plays the way you like take measurements so that if anything needs adjusting you have a reference point. I measure the distance of the strings from the 12th fret with a capo on the first, the distance of the bottom E string from the first pole piece, the distance of the high E from its pole piece (both with the strings fretted at the last fret) then I draw a diagram of the bridge and measure the distance of each barrel from the back of the bridge and label the diagram.
Stuff tends to move and shift and if you know where every thing is supposed to be you can move it back rather than just blindly turning screws.
boris bubbanov April 24th, 2008, 02:12 PM If you still have buzz, just less, with the saddle height screws all raised a full turn, you might want to make a slight truss rod adjustment. This forum contains a tutorial on what to do.
First, please make sure the neck bolts are sufficiently tight, but don't overtighten. I'm not saying the shop did a bad job setting up your guitar; sometimes as seasons change a setup goes off.
catalankid April 24th, 2008, 03:58 PM Thanks, Surfoverb, and Bubbanov. I will pay more attention to measurements after a setup. I'm going to play her for a few days now, then decide whether I want to tweak the truss rod. The climate is really dry here in Idaho, and I don't keep my electric guitars in cases, because I want to be able to get them easily when I'm ready to play. Should I be keeping them cased? I'm thinking maybe that the dryness of the winter that changed the setup? But, I'm not sure.
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