speaker with TWANG?

I've been on a speaker quest lately. I'm looking for a speaker that has a Rockabilly (brian Setzer) kind of overdriven low-end bite. I've tried a whack of them with mixed results.
Using a Telecaster/SG into a Hiwatt Custom 50. I've been A/Bing them with a 2x12 cab running one speaker at a time.

so far the Hellatone 60 watt (celestion) is amazing for twang on the low-end. The hi's are a little sharp. And the mids are kinda soft. But for oldschool AC/DC this is really good. Anyone compared these to Celestin Vintage 30's? These Hellatones sound old & worn-out. Which is part of their charm.

I've got a Shultz sugarcone. No low-end twang but a big beefy Black Crowes kinda sound. Definitely more modern sounding. Nice for solo's but not for overdrive Country chords.

Celestion G75's are good for 80's rock/Marshall kinda sounds. I really like these, lots of presence and a grinding low-end...but not really twang.

I've got 4 Emminence speakers (Govenor/Wizard/Tonespotter/special?) I generally don't like any of these speakers. The Special (came in my Hotrod Deluxe) has some twang but is so tubby & harsh that its not really useful.
The rest are basically rock speakers. They make powerchords sound modern. There's nothing classic sounding about these speakers. Think Nickelback.
The hi-end is really nice on the ears but no TWANG. Just different levels of mids & lows to make them different. Very compressed speakers also.

I've also tried Celestion G1265's/EV 200watters and Fanes (which I'm itching to try again). Any other recommendations for speakers with Twang.

I'm still trying to understand this TWANG I'm after. A very 70's sounding AC/DC to Jason & the Scorchers. Kind of Country Rock without the compression.

Just a personal opinion....AC/DC and Jason and the Scorchers do not utilize what my ears know as 'twang'. ANother one of those personal opinions....'country chords' are not usually overdriven. Now, much of what comes out of Nashville recording studios today does use overdrive to a large extent, but I don't consider that sound to be country twang. I consider it to be closer to ....?AC/Dc? than true country twang. (8^) and, kyes, I like twang..whether it is Duane Eddy or true country twang...and I like AC/DC overdrive, also. If you find the elusive overdrive/twang that you seek, let us know...and post a clip. I would like to hear something like Angus twangin'.
YMMV....

Weber 12A150W in the vintage line of speakers
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/

Weber 12A150W in the vintage line of speakers
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/

is that the same as what they used to call the P12NT? if so, i found that model to have the upper-mid snarl often associated with twang. very "present" highs but no ice-pick.

I have to agree with Wally. To my ears, AC/DC, Jason and the Scorchers and Rockabilly twang do not go together. For that matter, I'm having a difficult time with the concept of EL34s and Rockabilly twang going together. But hey, anything's possible I guess.

I don't know, but I think something more on the line of what Jamon is suggesting might get you closer. Any of Weber's 12*150s would be worth considering. I'm a fan of those speakers

I have a 12F150W, but have not popped it into anything yet.

Maybe I'm thinking something alittle more on the British side. But if you can't hear twang in Jason & the Scorchers "Clear Impetuous Morning" or "Midnight roads & Stages seen" albums then maybe you only associate twang in a certain aspect of country music or very Oldschool Rockabilly.
What happens when you turn up the overdrive on those famous Rockabilly tones? Or Brian Setzer with his Gretsch Duo Jet with lots of overdrive.
Or taking Danny Gattons Fender amp away and giving him a good Marshall. Would you guys not call that twang? At what point does Twang stop being twang?
A tele on the the bridge pickup generally gives you some amount of twang.You can remove it completely with the wrong speaker. Or you can emphasize that chirping aspect.

Weber 12A150W in the vintage line of speakers
https://taweber.powweb.com/weber/

+1 on twang with the 12*150W's,,, the 12A150w is smoother than the 12F150W.

Rod,
The British sound is very different from twang,, it's more of a midrange shimmer/jangle kinda thing. How's that for a description? :mrgreen:

Twang....I am old school USA.,.... whence comes 'twang'....
http://www.duaneeddycircle.com/
There is a brief example of the King of Twang's 'twang'.....and that is the essence of what I consider twang to be.
Gatton.....Gatton played with a more modern hot sound a lot of the time. When I listen to Gatton, I can't help but hear shades of Les Paul, and I don't equate Les Paul with twang. Gatton was a great fan and student of Les Paul.
There is much of Les Paul in Gatton's playing no matter what guitar he is on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9unLB8lNCJ8

I don't listen to much of the scorchers. If this cut is an accurate example, I don't hear any twang there. That is my ear and ime. Hard rock sonics, imo. A cowboy hat does not make it twang. I like this hard-driving type of music, too. It is, imho, derivative of Link Wray, who although a contemporary of Duane Eddy, was much rougher,harder, punishing....without any twang at all.

IMO, twang is a basically cleaner sound with great round notes being pushed around and lots of clear harmonics developing.
I also think that twang is in the ears and through the fingers. I will guarantee that there are people who can play a Tele through a Super Lead Marshall with g1275's and twang our ears off. Would they tang better through another rig...maybe, but they would take their ears and fingers with them to whatever rig they have.
YMMV

Big Scorchers fan here, too (just saw Jason Ringenberg playing a solo gig) - but I wouldn't call that sound "twang"!

Twang has to be CLEAN - as soon as there is more than the slightest bit of low-gain OD, I wouldn't call it "twang" any more! Don Rich had twang, Jim Campilongo has twang, Pete Anderson (with Dwight Yoakam) has twang. AC/DC crunch is almost as far from twang as possible (OK, Santana would even be more un-twangy :twisted:)
"Twang" means tight, punchy bass, slightly scooped lower mids, balanced by prominent upper mids, and in-your-face biting treble, and (almost) no overdrive. All IMHO and YMMV, of course! :mrgreen:

I personally like the Eminence Legend 121 speaker a lot: tight, punchy bass, un-coloured mids, prominent, but not harsh or ice-picky treble; great for both clean and crunchy sounds, and I can even make my JTM45-clone twang with one of these...

Listen to Jim again -- I hear some amount of OD on most of his tracks. :wink:

Well, I did mention the "slightest bit of low gain OD" :mrgreen: - a far cry from AC/DC (or Scorchers) crunch...

I think twang has more to do with playing style than where the knobs are set. There are times when Jim or Bill Kirchen or the Hellecasters or any number of those Tele guys are running more actual distortion than early AC/DC (which was not very saturated in reality, just loud), but still sound twangy due to how they're playing.

Not trying to pick a fight, but a lot of the tonal "rules" we devise don't apply to everyone! :lol:

- Scott

You make no mention of a JBL speaker in the stuff you've tried. The new JBL E series speakers are quite efficient and readily available. Another JBL 12" that is less available is a JBL D120F. The baskets of the older ones are painted a pebble grey, and the later ones are orange. I have an old grey one in my Deluxe and it is a great match with either a Tele or Strat. Those speakers have a lot of definition thru the entire spectrum. They get expensive if you CAN find them. Ebay has them once in a while. You could purchase a blown one and buy a reconing kit relatively cheaply for a DIY job...

BigWhiteTele posted this photo of Pete Andersons amp, this is what I found has good twang. EVM 12S but, they dont make that speaker now.
http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-central-station/102816-speaker-question-relating-evm12l-similar-hrdlxe-amp.html