March 16th, 2008, 10:51 AM
i heard recently that running shielded wire between the Tele output jack and the control wiring harness can help reduce noise/hum. any of you guys ever tried it, or know anyone who has?
if it's for real, what would be a source for that wire? (it ain't GC!) i only need about a foot of it....
March 16th, 2008, 11:04 AM
I was looking up the same thing recently and found this thread (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech/76249-twin-conductor-shielded-wire-output-jack-do-you.html). Terry's post at the end seems good to me.
March 16th, 2008, 11:35 AM
bingo -- thanx fer that, Pete .... TD sez: If you are using single coil pickups, using shielded wire to the output jack will make no difference in the hum.
i'm single-coil all the way, so if there's no advantage gained, why even fool with it?
March 16th, 2008, 02:20 PM
I think this post has some more info you may find helpful. You might as well twist the wires together.
Twisting wires (http://www.tdpri.com/forum/tele-tech/100422-twisting-wires-help-reduce-tele-hum.html)
March 16th, 2008, 03:50 PM
thanx for that, Terry. good to hear it straight from the maestro!
March 18th, 2008, 10:57 PM
Any shielding you add to a single coil guitar helps. I always use shielded cable to the output jack. It helps.
March 19th, 2008, 05:40 PM
On a tele it's a very short run, and you don't need it if the control cavity and jack tunnel are painted with carbon conductive paint. With a Strat I agree it's a good idea. My '07 Highway One had shielding paint in the main cavity but not in the jack rout. If you're painting it, you can connect the different cavities by painting the hole in between them with a q-tip. When the job does call for shielded cable I like the stuff that's sold as "G*bs*n type" wire (forgive the profanity), it's got a tinned braided shield that's exposed over cloth insulated inner wire.
March 19th, 2008, 11:15 PM
I shouldn't have said in that other post that if you are using single coil pickups, using shielded wire to the output jack will make no difference in the hum. I should have said may not make an appreciable difference in the hum.
If your hum source environment is fundamentally coming from one source, and you rotate your guitar to find the "null" point, the null point may be quieter with shielding. The single coil pickup IS the chief element of the pickup of power line fields.
It is a VERY good idea to shield guitars with humbuckers or other noise cancelling pickups. Since the power line fields are cancelled out by the humbucker (or stack), you have a very clean signal from those type pickups. You now have the other components and wiring of the guitar exposed to the fields. Since the pickup output is so quiet, you can hear the fields picked up by the wiring. That is why Gibson guitars use the shielding techniques and braided wire. It really makes a difference.
It's very easy to twist the wires together that go to the jack. If braided wire to the jack is something you can do, then by all means do it. It's not going to hurt.
A basic way of saying it is, the single coil pickup will output hum and buzz at a much greater level that your guitar wiring is capable of picking up. One can rotate their guitar position to minimize hum and buzz. In that sweet position, the extra shielding will hep get that position quieter.