Tech 21 Trademark Club 10, 30, 60 +

[Faraldi]

Originally Posted by markinlondon

Long time, no post. but,

If you only use the footswitch to change channels and don't need the boost and loop switching you can use any normal latching footswitch for the job. I use a Boss FS5L.

@alexpigment, my TM60 replaced a silverface Vibrolux Reverb because they'd never let me turn the VR up to the sweet spot. No one complained about the lack of valves.

Now THAT says a lot. It does sound great at low volumes but I like when that Celestion breathes.

[Jack]

Man, now you guys really have me thinking. Can anyone tell me how the 30 and 60 compare? Also, I own a JC-120 so another option is to get the Sansam GT-2. Any of you compared these? If so, how do you think this going into my 120 would compare?

[Will Chen]

Originally Posted by Faraldi

...If I get time tonight, I'm going to try recording out of the XLR into my Apogee ONE...

Joe,

You're going to be shocked at how similar the direct feed sounds to the amp. It's really impressive how close they sound. No other amp di I've tried comes close by comparison.

I'll have to try out those ch2 settings with the weep engaged. I've pretty much written it off but maybe I've just not tried it in the right way...

Originally Posted by Jack

Man, now you guys really have me thinking. Can anyone tell me how the 30 and 60 compare? Also, I own a JC-120 so another option is to get the Sansam GT-2. Any of you compared these? If so, how do you think this going into my 120 would compare?

The 30 and 60 are completely different amps. The 30 is a GT2 pedal wired to a power amp while the 60 is kinda like an early revision of their PSA 1 rack unit. I played the very rig you're considering, GT2 into JC120, for many years. I went to the TM60 in order to get a more portable package. While I miss that JC120 every day, the TM60 is much more practical from both a portability and low volume usage point of view. The GT2 doesn't sound much like the TM60. The British setting is close to channel 2 but channel 1 is way better than the GT2 Tweed setting and the amp overall has a tighter low end than the California setting. It really is a unique amp in the Tech 21/Sansamp line. I'm quite shocked they never revised it...

[guitarman_nebr]

hey, markinlondon

i guess i never tried a different footswitch. thanks for the heads up!!

i come here everyday, i don't post unless i have something to add.....usually enough is said before i join anyway.....LOL

[Viper]

Another Trademark 60 here. There are lots of things to like about this amp. A veteran guitar player unfamiliar with Tech 21 even asked what kind of tubes were in mine.

I love the boost pedal and the channel switching is a plus. The only problem I have is when there are other guitar players on stage with tube amps. A big Victoria or a Deluxe can muscle the Tech 21 out of the way. I often take my Deluxe Reverb when I'm playing with other guitarists.

The TM 60 is a keeper, though.

[Jack]

Originally Posted by Will Chen

Joe,

You're going to be shocked at how similar the direct feed sounds to the amp. It's really impressive how close they sound. No other amp di I've tried comes close by comparison.

I'll have to try out those ch2 settings with the weep engaged. I've pretty much written it off but maybe I've just not tried it in the right way...



The 30 and 60 are completely different amps. The 30 is a GT2 pedal wired to a power amp while the 60 is kinda like an early revision of their PSA 1 rack unit. I played the very rig you're considering, GT2 into JC120, for many years. I went to the TM60 in order to get a more portable package. While I miss that JC120 every day, the TM60 is much more practical from both a portability and low volume usage point of view. The GT2 doesn't sound much like the TM60. The British setting is close to channel 2 but channel 1 is way better than the GT2 Tweed setting and the amp overall has a tighter low end than the California setting. It really is a unique amp in the Tech 21/Sansamp line. I'm quite shocked they never revised it...

Exactly the feedback I was hoping for. Thanks so much. I'm going to do a little more research, but I think the 60 is in my future. Maybe if I find a used GT-2 on the cheap I'l put one of them in front of my 120 in the interim, but I'm trying to sale that amp and am looking to downsize myself. Hope I don't regret getting rid of it.

[Will Chen]

Originally Posted by Jack

Exactly the feedback I was hoping for. Thanks so much. I'm going to do a little more research, but I think the 60 is in my future. Maybe if I find a used GT-2 on the cheap I'l put one of them in front of my 120 in the interim, but I'm trying to sale that amp and am looking to downsize myself. Hope I don't regret getting rid of it.

Make sure you try it before jumping in. Tech 21 products have their own unique tone which some love and others hate. I'm not kidding when I say I regret selling my JC120 even though I made a nice profit on it. I'm always on the hunt for a great deal on a JC77. With the quality of pedals available today, I probably wouldn't have sold mine off and simply purchased a secondary smaller amp.

[Jack]

My friend picked up a used TM-60 so I got to spend some time with it was floored. It wasn't so much that this amp sounds like tube, which it does, but it also had the feel. I couldn't believe how incredibly close it was. Long story short, I ordered the 2X12 today. I currently have 3 amps to replace them all with this one.

BTW, I do love my JC-120, but it's a different animal from the 60. I also used to own a 77 and that's the one I really miss. I'm also on the fence with letting my Rottweiler go, but I really do need to downsize and get off this amp merry go round. :0)

[still_fiddlin]

Just picked up a used Trademark 10. I am such a wimp - decided that carrying a little 5F2A, mic and stand was too much effort. This thing is going to cover that very well, it looks like, and allow even lower stage volume from the amp, which is the other desire. Fun little box.

[xjazzy]

Originally Posted by guitarman_nebr

hey, markinlondon

i guess i never tried a different footswitch. thanks for the heads up!!

i come here everyday, i don't post unless i have something to add.....usually enough is said before i join anyway.....LOL

I had the same exact problem with the footswitch.
I tried to change the springs on the switches but didn't got it right.
So I found out that the problem was the little button on the PCB:


I just e-mailed Tech 21 support and they send me two of this buttons for free (remember that I'm in Portugal!).
I just changed the button and now it works like a charm.

Props to the great Tech 21 support.

[Jack]

Guys, I got my TM-60 2X12 in last week and took it back the next day. I don't know if it was the speakers or what, but it just didn't sound like the one my friend had. Anyhow, I wasn't happy with it so I took her back.

[Will Chen]

Originally Posted by Jack

Guys, I got my TM-60 2X12 in last week and took it back the next day. I don't know if it was the speakers or what, but it just didn't sound like the one my friend had. Anyhow, I wasn't happy with it so I took her back.

Sorry to hear it. The originals had OEM custom labeled speakers and at some point they switched to Celestion 70/80 speakers. Perhaps your buddy had the original speakers? Mine's an old one with the original speakers. Haven't player any of the newer ones but some who have like the older speaker better...

[Tony474]

Actually as I write there are three, but this one:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tech-21-Tradem...item335dbe0da5

...has only been bid up to £41.00 with seven hours to go. Complete with footswitch and Roqsolid cover (excellent), looks in good nick, too; has one odd control knob, very easily replaced if desired.

I won't be bidding as I already have a TM60, but this looks like being a bargain for some lucky punter.

Edit: Disclaimer - This isn't my amp being sold and I have no connection with the seller; I just spotted it while browsing and thought I'd spread the good news.

[Tony474]

Originally Posted by Jack

Guys, I got my TM-60 2X12 in last week and took it back the next day. I don't know if it was the speakers or what, but it just didn't sound like the one my friend had. Anyhow, I wasn't happy with it so I took her back.

I too am sorry to hear of your disappointment. Maybe the 2 x 12 sounds different from the 1 x 12 for some reason, or more likely, being a brand new amp, its speakers had not had time to break in. The Seventy/80 is a decent enough speaker; perhaps just a tiny tad harsh in the upper mids but not enough to be a deal-breaker, other things being equal.

Still, the decision was yours and yours alone to make; we must respect that and hope you find an amp that suits your needs.

[hurricane_boy]

can i daisy chain trademark 30 into another amp? like plugging into T30's send and another amp's return?

[Tony474]

Originally Posted by hurricane_boy

can i daisy chain trademark 30 into another amp? like plugging into T30's send and another amp's return?

That would be very easy - take a feed from the XLR out socket and plug it into the power-amp input or effects return socket of the second amp. You can also use this method to connect your TM30 to a recording device or, on a gig, to the PA system.

[jcarndt]

Trademark 60 owners......have any of you tried using a multi-effects unit with this amp ?

If so, how did that work out for you? I'm considering a Boss Me-70 and I'll be playing it through either my Trademark 60 or my Pathfinder.............

[Tony474]

Originally Posted by jcarndt

Trademark 60 owners......have any of you tried using a multi-effects unit with this amp ?

If so, how did that work out for you? I'm considering a Boss Me-70 and I'll be playing it through either my Trademark 60 or my Pathfinder.............

Absolutely no problems at all in this regard - I routinely plug either my pedalboard or my ancient and honourable Zoom 2020 multi-effects into the TM60 and away I go. Obviously it's best to set the amp itself for as clean a sound as possible when using this configuration (I'd advise keeping the amp's own reverb low or off - use your ears to set to taste), but the TM60 takes external effects very well indeed and the whole plot works a treat.

[hurricane_boy]

Originally Posted by Tony474

That would be very easy - take a feed from the XLR out socket and plug it into the power-amp input or effects return socket of the second amp. You can also use this method to connect your TM30 to a recording device or, on a gig, to the PA system.

whoa thanks, anyway if i'm using the xlr out how about the 10" speaker? is it still on?

[Tony474]

Originally Posted by hurricane_boy

whoa thanks, anyway if i'm using the xlr out how about the 10" speaker? is it still on?

Yes, it is - the XLR line out socket doesn't mute the amp's internal speaker.