Pro Junior Club

[slotted screw]

hey guys, what would be the best solution to get more clean headroom?

thanks!

[strumminsix]

For headroom I think Eurotubes has it right:
12at7
12ax7
ELs rated for headroom

I tried a 12ax7 in v1 and found it hits the poweramp tubes HOT and seemed always ready to clip.
I tried a 5751 in v1 and found that I had to turn up more but wasn't louder
The AT was a nice happy medium.

All of this assumes you understand this amp has just barely enough headroom to clear a drummer and that you like your speaker.

[Pretty Thing]

Yeah, you're not going to get any more volume by swapping tubes around. I'm on the verge of getting a 12at7 and building a custom 2x12 cab for mine right now. I've been playing into a 4x12 for a short time and I really like the sound the multiple 12"s can offer. The 12"s spread the sound out and add some nice low end. But, I need to lighten up the overall distortion ratio.

[strumminsix]

Originally Posted by Pretty Thing

Yeah, you're not going to get any more volume by swapping tubes around. I'm on the verge of getting a 12at7 and building a custom 2x12 cab for mine right now. I've been playing into a 4x12 for a short time and I really like the sound the multiple 12"s can offer. The 12"s spread the sound out and add some nice low end. But, I need to lighten up the overall distortion ratio.

Technically you can get some additional volume or reduced volume with tubes. But in practice it ain't much at all and you are only dealing with a couple DBs of clean headroom with a tube tango.

But for me, that's all I needed ;) Or I'd bring a larger amp!

[birv2]

New tele player here. I've been a strat guy for years but just got an Affinity tele and am loving it. Took it and my PJ to the blues jam on Thursday. Straight guitar into amp, and it sounded good.

In fact, I even had a PRS player tell me how much he liked the tone and said he'd never heard a fat tone like that from a tele!

My PJ has the Eurotubes standard PJ set of JJ's and a Ragin Cajun speaker but otherwise stock. Such a great little amp!

[TeeMan]

Hi all,

Here´s one more! Hmm... Mine looks a bit different than yours - can you experts shed a bit light of this beauty´s history?
(I play mine with American Deluxe Strat & enjoy it quite a bit)





Cheers & thanks for this great resource!

Tomi

[Paulie13]

Originally Posted by TeeMan

Hi all,

Here´s one more! Hmm... Mine looks a bit different than yours - can you experts shed a bit light of this beauty´s history?
(I play mine with American Deluxe Strat & enjoy it quite a bit)





Cheers & thanks for this great resource!

Tomi

Man that looks awesome! Hopefully someone will know something about it, because unfortunately I do not.

[barnbustud]

Bought mine a few hrs ago. Plugged a cheap Rally Les paul in and it sounded really sweet , notes are clean and clucky at low volumes. Flurbs abit at 3-4 but some modding should do the trick. Money well spent!

[strumminsix]

ravelle, my experience is that the stock PJ is PERFECT for Tele's and other single coil guitars.

[bullitt]

Teeman,I think that is a special run Fender did a few years back along with the Woody PJs.Not sure of the year,I have it in an old Fender catalog,I think it was a bleached ash cab,along with other special runs,Id hold on to it and keep the stock parts and box,etc and onjoy playing on it,killer amp by the way.

[TeeMan]

Originally Posted by bullitt

Teeman,I think that is a special run Fender did a few years back along with the Woody PJs.Not sure of the year,I have it in an old Fender catalog,I think it was a bleached ash cab,along with other special runs,Id hold on to it and keep the stock parts and box,etc and onjoy playing on it,killer amp by the way.

Thanks Bullitt, great info!
I found the handwritten text "H. Jugan 8-02" inside the cabinet, so 2002 must be the year then. Someone also told me, that this model could have been bundled with some custom shop Teles / Strats with matching colour at the time... Dunno, the colour is close to "cream" and is "reliced" (on purpose or not )
I just ordered new tubes for it and yes - I´m planning to enjoy it by playing its *** off

[birv2]

Curious as to how people set their amps when playing live. I took mine to the jam again last night -- put the volume on 5-6, and tone all the way up. Then I usually had the tone knob on the tele all the way up as well. It still did not have that ice-picky treble that teles can have.

The jam leader told me it sounded awesome and wanted me to leave his amp with him. :)

He said it sounded like Neil Young when I hit chords. Big compliment to me because I really like Neil's electric tone. Strangely, I think he runs a Les Paul into a Tweed Deluxe. So if I can get my Affinity tele into a PJ sounding anything like that, it's a good thing!

[strumminsix]

birv2 - what tubes do you have?! Kinda surprised yours sounded so good with the tone all the way up! Thought it woulda been picky and hissy.

[birv2]

Originally Posted by strumminsix

birv2 - what tubes do you have?! Kinda surprised yours sounded so good with the tone all the way up! Thought it woulda been picky and hissy.

I got the standard retube package from Bob at Eurotubes. From his site:
Description: A matched pair of JJ EL84's an ECC83S for V1 & a balanced ECC83S for the phase inverter in V2.

Bob describes the Pro Jr's sound as "juicy", and I agree.

I also have a Ragin Cajun speaker, which might also help explain the non-icepick sound. I believe that speaker is pretty midrangey.

I'm no tube/speaker guru. Just went with a lot of recommendations for this amp, and it sounds great. YMMV.

[strumminsix]

Nice! I'm guessing that speaker is the trick to allowing the tone pot maxed out!

Very cool results!

[lexx9]

I'll play, I had a US made Pro Jr for a few years now and to be honest I hated it! It was way too noisey!! I had a friend gut it and rebuild all point to point as a 18 watt lite....and I hated it but it was quiet.
I also have a Crate V50 which I use as my main amp in the band with a matching 2x12 cab. One day we were having a practice to go over some new songs with some members missing so I decided to try the Pro due to the fact that I would not need the power of the V50 and it weights a tonne. So I plugged it in to the 2x12 cab and the heavens opened up and angels started to sing(LOL). I have never used the V50 in the band since and not a jam goes by that the lead player does not make a comment on how much he likes my tone with the Pro....which I guess is not really a Pro any more but you get the idea.

[birv2]

How many of you use a reverb pedal? Which one? How many think the PJ doesn't need one?

I like my HRDx with its reverb and wondered if I should use some with the PJ. I have a Holy Grail, but since I play mainly at jams, it's too much trouble to take it and find a plug for it -- the HG doesn't use batteries. So if I decide to use reverb, I want to get a pedal that just uses a 9V battery (Verbzilla, Marshall Reflector, and the 2 Digitech reverbs look like good candidates).

But maybe I don't even need one. What does everyone here do?

[strumminsix]

I don't have a reverb pedal either and simply use a delay pedal for my reverb needs :)

[birv2]

Originally Posted by strumminsix

I don't have a reverb pedal either and simply use a delay pedal for my reverb needs :)

Hey strummin, what delay pedal do you use? How do you set it up to get a reverby sound?

[strumminsix]

Line6 Echo Park, set to "Ducking". Mind you, it doesn't sound just like reverb, but it close. It really gets you to the little bit of wetness vs dry sound.