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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: East Lansing
Posts: 1,277
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5E3 Deluxe Owners Club
Welcome all vintage, reissue, clone, kit and scratch builders to the 5E3 Deluxe Owners Club.
Here we will feast ourselves and ruminate on the savory delectable tones of the simple yet brilliant 5E3 amp circuit (tweed jackets optional).
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Poster Extraordinaire
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Fullerton, CA
Posts: 8,744
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Still looking for leopard print upholstery to put onto mine...
I just used mine this morning for two guitar tracks... a garage punk type of a song and while it'll get a Marshall for a doubletracking, the 5E3 was the only fit for the song out of my dozen or so amps for this project. LP junior and one rhythm track (the main character of the song), LP junior and two lead tracks. The LP Custom and Marshall will fill out the rest of the doubled rhythm tracks.
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Poster Extraordinaire
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Mint Hill, NC
Age: 63
Posts: 8,124
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mine's a clone of unknown origin ... bought it from a buddy who said he was told it was Custom Shop, but it's obviously not — not a serial number to be found anywhere. but it's a great-sounding workhorse. i've put a Weber 12A150 in it and stuffed it with some of the NOS tubes i've got laying around. it's sweet as honey both cranked and at acoustic volumes, and mikes quite well. i use it for all gigs except concert/festival type stages.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Maryland
Age: 58
Posts: 1,950
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Mine's a Mission kit build in a Mojo tweed cabinet, Weber alnico Sig 12 speaker. I just got an EH Holy Grail for some reverb, and I occasionally use an old Ibanez parametric EQ in front of it if I want more tone control.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,472
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I used mine a bbq last weekend and it was actually a bit too loud! Incredible tone though!
It was built for me a few years ago with a Hoffman chassis, handmade pine cab covered in tweed, a Weber 12A125 speaker and Weber trannies. I've got some great NOS tubes in it that and amp tech and I spent an afternoon auditioning. Other than the 3-prong grounded power cord, the only mods from the stock circuit are a 32uF filter cap and .047 coupling cap on the bright channel.
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Arkansas, currently on walkabout
Posts: 487
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i love mine. mines a lil dawg D-lux built by jim. i was lucky to get one while jim was still building cabinets. sounds fantastic loaded with a 15 in jensen reissue. just encourages you to play.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Murfreesboro, TN
Age: 48
Posts: 2,272
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Mission 5e3 kit build.
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Friend of Leo's
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5E3 clone owner here.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Age: 26
Posts: 1,668
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Hey owners, talk to me about why you like your amp, why you love it? What you play and how it handles pedals. I ask all this because I'm thinking about joining this club and am just really curious.
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: New England
Posts: 1,219
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I don't use pedals. The tweed Deluxe is simple and it yields a wide palette of useful tones. The normal channel yields a nice clean tone that helped me kick my addiction to reverb. A common 5E3 complaint is "flabby farty bass". I have my own simple recipe to tighten up the bass. I use a modern speaker with a ceramic magnet in my Deluxe which goes a long way towards helping the bottom end. I should qualify that with what I use for guitars. I use Strats or Teles into the normal channel usually using the neck and middle pickup (Nashville Tele or SuperStrat.) I work the volume knob on the guitar. Bridge PU is too bright on the normal channel IMO. Neck and middle are oh so perfect. The bridge PU tends to drop the bottom end out and leave the top. That might work for slithery funk chording but I don't use it much. Bright channel: I love it with a bridge humbucker. (SuperStrat.) Either way, singles or hums it's a great distortion tone. A hot humbucker pushes the sustain a little better, I have to work at it with single coils. All of the above are merely my observations. Season to taste. It's just about a miracle that a simple amp with three knobs has that many tones in it. Leo didn't call it "Deluxe" for nothing! |
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TDPRI Member
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Glasgow Ky
Age: 43
Posts: 69
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I just finished my Mission 5E3 last week. Played it at the Blues Jam Sunday night. I love it. Got several compliments and questions about where they could get one. The only complaint, it wasn't loud enough! I will mic it next time.
It is in a Weber Cabinet with a Weber Vintage Series 12A125-O Alnico speaker. ![]()
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But I only use the Bad Bob. Don't need anything else. Last edited by petebradt; July 7th, 2009 at 10:36 PM. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Brooklyn
Age: 30
Posts: 401
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You're all making me miss my Victoria 20112! It's stranded at the practice space- we've been on an unplanned hiatus for the past couple weeks due to one thing or another.
It's hard to describe why I love it- like if someone said, "What do you like about Van Gogh's Starry Night?" It just has a certain tonal quality that I can't get enough of. It has a choppy but sweet clean that makes you wonder what you ever needed a reverb tank for, but goes to nasty, spiky overdrive for leads with a flick of the volume pedal. I also use a DOD Classic Fuzz through it when I want more sustain or grit, and it takes it well. I really can't get a bad sound out of it without some work. Even considering that I haven't gotten around to replacing the Red Lace Sensor in my Tele's bridge!
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Arizona
Age: 26
Posts: 1,668
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Thank you guys I didn't want to spoil the owners club aspect but there are so many 5E3 threads in the amp forum that I figured you guys would be able to help me the most.
And yes I love Neil but don't play like him.I play a lot of different music but it's easiest described as indie rock and blues, a little hard rock here and there but I love a good clean sound. Currently my only electric is a 335 copy but yes I will be getting a tele again soon because my life with out one isn't nearly as fun. My pedals are two od's, a wah, univbe, delay, trem, chourus, fuzz and a tuner. I currently run everything into the front end of my Peavey Valve king. At this stage I'm considering building a 5E3 as my first build but am kind of afraid of the idea or get the weber so watt. But If I can get a light clean sound and it will take od pedals well(my problem with a Peavey classic 30) then I'm all for the simple take. |
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Tele-Meister
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
Posts: 151
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However, having said that, after you use one for a while you will find it (at least I did) hard to go back to a loud and clean amp; something that doesn't break up. They are kind of like a mini Marshall plexi in tone - the midrange and overdrive is incredible, and most people put a speaker with around a 100db spl rating for maximum volume and headroom. They absolutely love single coil guitars, esp. Tele's, but my 69 SG standard sounds pretty good through it as well. Wonderful feedback! I put a silicon fuzz, a light overdrive and a vibrato and analog delay into it and it sounds good. I use the low gain input on the bright channel with volume just under 5 and the tone just over 9. I don't jumper the channels. I played a Victoria Double Deluxe, which is like a 5E3 to the power of 2 - 4 6V6's, 2x 12, put's out around 30 watts. Expensive, but a wonderful amp and has the 5E3 vibe with more than enough volume on tap so you could gig with it anywhere. If you're playing a 5E3 at a show it helps to have it up high (on a roadcase or something) and away from you a bit so that you can really hear it.
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Idaho
Age: 59
Posts: 847
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I'm in also.. a Mission build and love it . Pedals...it takes my Boss GT-8 REALLY well. Because I can increase the output going into the amp from the boss it can get waaaay too loud for our trio. I jumper the channels but can only get them to about 2 before it gets loud...
Cheers ce24
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I'm in too. Built my Mission Amps 5E3 a year ago, and am still amazed by its sounds. This weekend I am going to open it up and reflow *everything* since from the beginning I've having some occasional hiss and crackling noises. I use a few pedals, wah, chorus, tremolo and Bad Bob. That last one is on most of the time, the other ones I hardly use.
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Auburn, Georgia
Posts: 66
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Same here, love those Lil Dawg amps.
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Friend of Leo's
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Florida Panhandle
Age: 53
Posts: 2,594
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Tele-Holic
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Hbg. PA
Age: 52
Posts: 839
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I just sent my deposit to Jim for a Li'l Dawg 5E3 head. Already have his 8W Champster 1X12 combo and a Prince head so I know what kind of quality I'm getting. If anybody knows of any sites that explain how how the controls interact or how to set it for differen't sounds, jumpering channels etc. please post a link.
Or, just post your particular settings for getting your tone(s). Many thanks! |
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Tele-Afflicted
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Maryland
Age: 58
Posts: 1,950
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What make the amp such a blast to play is a really nice touch sensitive sweet spot - clean with a light touch, gritty when you dig in. The cleans with the neck PU are big and fat, just gorgeous. I'll roll back the guitar tone about 30% for a good jazz tone with nice definition. Cleans on the bridge PU have plenty of cut. Cranked, you've got vicious overdrive, this is the amp that sets the standard IMO. The channel interaction is a subtle effect. Turn up the volume of the un-used channel. As you get above about 9, it starts compressing the sound, reducing the volume somewhat, and scooping the mids. I think. Words fail me, but it's a cool sound. You'll check it out anyway. Channel jumping is very straightforward. Use a patch cord to connect the #2 input of the channel you are using to the #1 input of the other channel. You are now driving both channel equally. Use the two volume controls to mix the relative proportions of bright and normal. Some people like this a lot, I rarely bother. |
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