"Amp Too Heavy" Troll posts

[Flat357]

Originally Posted by Durtdog

No you didn't.

That was uncalled for and childish, especially for a guy your age who's "paid his dues".

IMPORTANT: Treat everyone with respect, no matter how difficult that may be.
Sound familiar?

I totally agree .

[Boubou]

Originally Posted by T_red7882

I still say i was not trolling and that it was a valid post that brought about a great many views... i just might not have gone about it in the most dilplomatic of ways. It was not my intent to offend, but i apologize to anyone who i did offend. I think though, that this could bring up an interesting thread subject on gigging over and under 30 years of age, volume levels and emotion vs pure performance. that could be a hottly contested thread, so i'll let the mods decide if they'll let me post on that one.

there might still be hope for you. Just ask yourself, do you go about doing things the same way you did when you were 5 years old??
Everything changes as you get older, they dont necessarily get duller, but different because your outlook on life, as well as your body, changes

[Gr8tfulEd]

I feel the love!

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

[Tim Armstrong]

Originally Posted by T_red7882

I still say i was not trolling and that it was a valid post that brought about a great many views... i just might not have gone about it in the most dilplomatic of ways.

Here's the thing, it wasn't that the topic was a bad one, it was the way you defined it. The original post is gone now, so I can't quote it, but in it you basically questioned the manhood of anyone who complained about the weight of a Fender Twin Reverb Amp.

Can't you see where that might fit the definition of trolling?

If, instead, you had posted something about how you feel the tone and performance of a Fender Twin Reverb Amp really suited your needs, enough so that the weight was a non-issue to you, well, that might have resulted in a very different and much friendlier discussion.

Cheers, Tim

[stantheman]

I musta missed it. Oh well...

[Big Lug]

And now, back to our regular viewing program...

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by Flat357

Just because there is an opportunity to state offense , doesn't mean we have to state it .
There are lots of things in the world much more important to be offended about than a thread on the tdpri .
The thread contained 6 full pages of discussion and most of it was about guys own experiences with amps , and their reasons for using particular amps and transportational devices .
IMHO , a minority got on their high horses , when really , they could have shown more tolerance and not took it so damn serious . When I see 60+ year old guys getting offended by the light hearted comments of a young guy , it makes me wonder to myself why I bother posting here , when the world is full of so many optional activities .

T Red ... it wasn't your fault the thread was closed bud , but the pettyness of a few high horse jockeys

What part of being mature means you should have to be tolerant of someone pushing your buttons?

[buddywayne]

IMPORTANT: Treat everyone with respect, no matter how difficult that may be.
Sound familiar?

That also applies to the immature young man who started this fray. T-red, some day you will realize that you will be treated as you treat others. I do
apologize for saying you suck. I don't know that you do.

[Flat357]

Originally Posted by rhinocaster

What part of being mature means you should have to be tolerant of someone pushing your buttons?

Any thread that doesn't start with the words ' rhinocaster is , or flat357 is ..... ' maybe ?
It's just a forum bud , not anything else .
The guy didn't rape or murder anyone , so it's not that big a deal .

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by Flat357

Any thread that doesn't start with the words ' rhinocaster is , or flat357 is ..... ' maybe ?
It's just a forum bud , not anything else .
The guy didn't rape or murder anyone , so it's not that big a deal .

Then there's really no problem with people responding in kind right?

People are generally members of a forum because, for the most part, they enjoy the "Feel" of the forum. Many didn't like the feel of that post. They expressed that.

No big deal.

[RumorsofsurF]

Originally Posted by buddywayne

IMPORTANT: Treat everyone with respect, no matter how difficult that may be.
Sound familiar?

That also applies to the immature young man who started this fray. T-red, some day you will realize that you will be treated as you treat others. I do
apologize for saying you suck. I don't know that you do.

In my opinion, telling the guy he sucks is 100000000 times more disrespectful than the original post of the deleted thread.

How is that treating eveyone with respect? Apologizing doesn't make it go away.

No offense, but everyone should be held to the same standard.


I agree that people took the whole thing waaay too seriously. If that's the most racy and controversial thread we have, that's pretty dang boring. I'm not siding with the guy, but it wasn't that big of a deal.

Also, age does not necessarily bring wisdom or humility.

Perhaps Tred has toured for 5 of his 25 years, spending months on the road, playing juke joints every night...Whose right is it to say he hasn't "paid any dues?"


*Waits for the "You young whippersnapper don't know anything" flames

[rhinocaster]

Originally Posted by RumorsofsurF

*Waits for the "You young whippersnapper don't know anything" flames

How did this get to be an age thing?

I don't think that anyone here thinks that young whippersnappers don't know anything.

However, I'm pretty sure that we can agree that they don't know everything!

[buddywayne]

Rumors, 100000000 is a lot. Actually my apology was for the benefit of the
other members of this forum.

[Big John]

Could it be time to ............

[Jelly]

Big John, you're so thoughtful. You even took the time to look for an image of a plug with a North American socket. :)

[T_red7882]

"T Red ... it wasn't your fault the thread was closed bud , but the pettyness of a few high horse jockeys "

Well, i certainly didn't help the thread stay open by my original post, which drew the ire of many who didn't bother to read the rest of what was written, where more clarification was brought up. I didn't question anyone's manhood, what i did was wonder if we've become so emuasculated that we worry about amp weight. I said that if the amp is too heavy, or the guitar hurts your shoulder (those with chronic ailments are exempt obviously), go to the gym, lift some weights and man up. I said that evolution gave us powerful shoulders, arms, back and legs and that we should use them, not be afraid. I didn't say "you're a p###y if you can't lift yer amp.

I readily admit that i didn't go about it in the best fashion. Then some older guys were saying how i hadn't lived or dealt with adversity, to which i said i had and do live with adversity. When i listed my medical ailments saying "i can sing the blues i think" it was me trying to say, "hey i've been there." Some people thought it was me trying to get sympathy. I was just trying to say i've had to deal with my own crap and that its ridiculous for people to think, hey he's 25, he must think he's bullet proof and he's obviously never had to deal with anything.

anyway... this is all getting ridiculous. Buddywayne, i accept your apology and i want your '51. Everyone else, we need to chill, myself too.

[buddywayne]

T red, let's shake hands and get to pickin', please.

[RumorsofsurF]

Originally Posted by buddywayne

Rumors, 100000000 is a lot. Actually my apology was for the benefit of the
other members of this forum.

Okay, so maybe I exaggerated a little...


Peace and guitars, all around!

[JDO]

Originally Posted by T_red7882

"T Red ... it wasn't your fault the thread was closed bud , but the pettyness of a few high horse jockeys "

Well, i certainly didn't help the thread stay open by my original post, which drew the ire of many who didn't bother to read the rest of what was written, where more clarification was brought up. I didn't question anyone's manhood, what i did was wonder if we've become so emuasculated that we worry about amp weight. I said that if the amp is too heavy, or the guitar hurts your shoulder (those with chronic ailments are exempt obviously), go to the gym, lift some weights and man up. I said that evolution gave us powerful shoulders, arms, back and legs and that we should use them, not be afraid. I didn't say "you're a p###y if you can't lift yer amp.

I readily admit that i didn't go about it in the best fashion. Then some older guys were saying how i hadn't lived or dealt with adversity, to which i said i had and do live with adversity. When i listed my medical ailments saying "i can sing the blues i think" it was me trying to say, "hey i've been there." Some people thought it was me trying to get sympathy. I was just trying to say i've had to deal with my own crap and that its ridiculous for people to think, hey he's 25, he must think he's bullet proof and he's obviously never had to deal with anything.

anyway... this is all getting ridiculous. Buddywayne, i accept your apology and i want your '51. Everyone else, we need to chill, myself too.

ah heck, everyone else has weighed in (get it? ) on something the mods said was over... so why not me

anyway, i had no problem with your post T. honestly, i've thought that about myself before you even posed the question. if i have to carry my vibrochamp (with upgraded trannys - ie, larger david allen trannys) too far i have to switch hands. i'm a 30 year old fat out of shape campus minister - which is essentially a desk type job. i'm way weaker and way more out of shape then i need to be. and i know i'm not the only one. and where i think your thread has merit is that it's not just the "old" people - kids aren't active in general any more. when i need something physical done i only have a few guys in my ministry i know i can count on. there are actually some girls i would call before i would call some of my guys to help me move some heavy objects.

so to your question i would personally say the answer is yes and i'm one of them

now that i've had the final word

[Tim Armstrong]

Originally Posted by T_red7882

I didn't question anyone's manhood, what i did was wonder if we've become so emuasculated that we worry about amp weight. I said that if the amp is too heavy, or the guitar hurts your shoulder (those with chronic ailments are exempt obviously), go to the gym, lift some weights and man up. I said that evolution gave us powerful shoulders, arms, back and legs and that we should use them, not be afraid. I didn't say "you're a p###y if you can't lift yer amp.

For future reference: "emasculated" means having one's balls removed, which would certainly bring into question one's manhood! Oh, and "man up" also would seem to imply that one wasn't behaving as a man, again bringing into question one's manhood.

I honestly don't think you're being malicious, rather you just don't seem to understand how to communicate with other folks in a non-insulting way.

What a shame!

Tim

[ibobunot]

The Trolls - He Ain't Heavy


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[T_red7882]

from dictionary.com:

emasculate:

1. to castrate.
2. to deprive of strength or vigor; weaken.
–adjective
3. deprived of or lacking strength or vigor; effeminate.


"man up" as i've always used and heard is in reference to whiners, complainers and 2nd guessers. "if someone else can't do it right, man up and do it right yourself" is one example. To me it questions mental fortitude, not "bring your manliness back to full bore, tilt etc..."