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Rob DiStefano · April 8th, 2008, 06:36 PM

Different speaker? Heck yeah - make that "speakers". Paul's got a Kendrick in his, I stuffed in an 8F150 on a new baffle that proved to be too dark and now I'm running with an 8A125T. I've got a both AlNiCo and ceramic Blue Pups coming to try out as well.

Geez, I think this post #1000 on this thread ... yikes!

androo · April 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM

Awww, come on mistermullens, you bail out and expect to take the EASY way out? ;)

Totally kidding... glad you checked back... it's a great thread. So far, a couple of speaker swaps have occurred....I am currently waiting to hear about some Weber Blue Pups or an 8F125 if anyone has that one in the wings. Seems like big old alnico magnets are too much darkening of this amp. I'm personally looking for a tad more clean headroom, hoping that one of the ceramics will get me there, but I'm too chicken to just buy one and try it myself...so I'm totally leeching on to the folks here who are just trying it all! Mebee then I can take a united front to the wife when she wants to know why I spend 60 bucks on a speaker!!

:)

droo

droo

androo · April 8th, 2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob DiStefano

...I'm running with an 8A125T. I've got a both AlNiCo and ceramic Blue Pups coming to try out as well.

Geez, I think this post #1000 on this thread ... yikes!

Hey there Rob...I may have missed your news on the 8A125T. Since I'm looking hard at the 8F125, maybe you've got any feedback on yours that might be similar to the ceramic. What do you think of that one? Any more headroom before things start cooking?

Rob DiStefano · April 8th, 2008, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by androo

Hey there Rob...I may have missed your news on the 8A125T. Since I'm looking hard at the 8F125, maybe you've got any feedback on yours that might be similar to the ceramic. What do you think of that one? Any more headroom before things start cooking?

A nice playground between the 8F150 and the Sig 8, the 8A125T (ribbed cone), uses an 11 oz plug AlNiCo mag, and I'm anxious to hear how the AlNiCo Blue Pup's 7 oz mag sounds in comparison. I did some some bytes of the 8A125T on this thread, in this post ...

http://www.tdpri.com/forum/amp-centr...ml#post1180941

Sevan Simonian · April 11th, 2008, 10:38 AM

Hi folks, I've got a simple tech question about hooking up my GA5 to the 2x12's (total 4ohm) in my Fender Twin. The Twin has an external speaker jack that's in parallel with the main speaker jack. I'd like to run the output of the GA5 directly into the external speaker jack on the Twin (with the Twin turned OFF of course). Is there any reason to think that this would somehow harm the internals of the Twin (e.g. output transformer)??? This just seemed like a convenient way to use the Twin as an "external cabinet" for the GA5!

FYI, I'm still waiting on my CVA8 from Ted Weber & co. It seems they're pretty busy over there.

Guitarslinger1 · April 11th, 2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sevan Simonian

Hi folks, I've got a simple tech question about hooking up my GA5 to the 2x12's (total 4ohm) in my Fender Twin. The Twin has an external speaker jack that's in parallel with the main speaker jack. I'd like to run the output of the GA5 directly into the external speaker jack on the Twin (with the Twin turned OFF of course). Is there any reason to think that this would somehow harm the internals of the Twin (e.g. output transformer)??? This just seemed like a convenient way to use the Twin as an "external cabinet" for the GA5!

FYI, I'm still waiting on my CVA8 from Ted Weber & co. It seems they're pretty busy over there.

Don't ever do anything like that.

It's a bad idea on so many levels.

Why not hook up the GA-5 directly to the 2 x 12" speakers???

Sevan Simonian · April 11th, 2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by specialty guitars

Don't ever do anything like that.

It's a bad idea on so many levels.

Why not hook up the GA-5 directly to the 2 x 12" speakers???

Good thing I asked first!!! The only reason I considered this was to avoid using a 1/4" female connector to connect the GA5's output to the 1/4" male connector on the 2x12's. But that's easy enough to do. Thanks for the warning.

rlowe · April 11th, 2008, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob DiStefano

... and I'm anxious to hear how the AlNiCo Blue Pup's 7 oz mag sounds in comparison. ...

Hey Rob,

Did you get your Blue Pup in yet. I am curious how it does with the mods. I decided to remove the jumper bypassing the bass filter. Stock speaker sounds better to my ear without this mod. I did however leave the "lift" mod which seems to allow more headroom before breakup.

Rob DiStefano · April 11th, 2008, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rlowe

Hey Rob,

Did you get your Blue Pup in yet. I am curious how it does with the mods. I decided to remove the jumper bypassing the bass filter. Stock speaker sounds better to my ear without this mod. I did however leave the "lift" mod which seems to allow more headroom before breakup.

The 2 Blue Pups didn't arrive yet ...

tc6969 · April 11th, 2008, 07:55 PM

What I'm waiting on is for one of you guys to get the brilliant idea to pull the chassis and put it in another cabinet!

Then you can sell me the empty box!

I think a matching extension cabinet for this baby would be over the top cool!

Rob DiStefano · April 11th, 2008, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tc6969

What I'm waiting on is for one of you guys to get the brilliant idea to pull the chassis and put it in another cabinet!

Then you can sell me the empty box!

To put it bluntly - No Way, Jose!

andrenighthound · April 12th, 2008, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob DiStefano

To put it bluntly - No Way, Jose!

i want to put it in a 15" speaker.

my drummer says the lil dawg champ sound better 2 him. wed. i used the ga 5 and thurs. i used the lil dawg champ . he said the lil dawg has more low end...i suspect its because of the 12" speaker verses the 8" in the ga 5

Guitarslinger1 · April 12th, 2008, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by andrenighthound

he said the lil dawg has more low end...i suspect its because of the 12" speaker verses the 8" in the ga 5

Play the GA 5 through a 4 x 12" cab and see what your drummer thinks.

andrenighthound · April 12th, 2008, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by specialty guitars

Play the GA 5 through a 4 x 12" cab and see what your drummer thinks.

i wish paul but a 4x12 would be too big for me, i and a pain to gig with so thats why i was figuring a 15" small combo.

im in dallas, got a gig at ten and ima tired! i'm glad i dont have too much to carry and set up

that's why i'm really into combos!

Rob DiStefano · April 12th, 2008, 06:15 PM

IMO, the GA5 is what it is - gonna be a pain to stuff in a 10" and that still ain't gonna get you into the magic 12" tone arena. The only other non-invasive viable option is to run out to a speaker cab, or combo cab's speaker.

Guitarslinger1 · April 13th, 2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by andrenighthound

i wish paul but a 4x12 would be too big for me, i and a pain to gig with

No problem. You just need to a a roadie!

Seriously, like Rob is suggesting, using an 1 or 2 x 12" extension cab with the GA-5 would probably be just right.

TNO · April 13th, 2008, 12:09 PM

My Weber Chicago alnico is coming tomorrow :)

rlowe · April 14th, 2008, 12:46 PM

So, if I were to build an external cabinet for this, should I put in a 10" or a 12"? What speaker recommendations do you all have?

Also, if I am going to build a cabinet, would there be any issues with building a cabinet that could be loaded with either a 10 or a 12? I could just make room and cut two different baffles right?

Thanks!

Blues Hurler · April 14th, 2008, 12:47 PM

I used my GA-5 with the band on Friday night, our other guitar player running a Lil dawg champ chassis with a 12" weber. I could keep up fine, but I'm thinking that it would be better to have the GA-5 run through a 12" spkr, but don't even know where to start! Suggestions? Either for an extension cab with speaker, or perhaps to purchase them separately? What would be your thinking on a well-matched 12" for this little monster? I find my GA-5 dark and overpowered by humbuckers, but sounds good with the Tele. Very little headroom though, and it would be nice to increase that. (though, either guitar sounds great dimed for solo's, and I'd like to keep it that way)

rlowe · April 14th, 2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Blues Hurler

What would be your thinking on a well-matched 12"

My question exactly!

Rob DiStefano · April 14th, 2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rlowe

So, if I were to build an external cabinet for this, should I put in a 10" or a 12"? What speaker recommendations do you all have?

Thanks!

Absolutely go with a quality 12" speaker. For my Li'l Dawgs Champster Specials and Princes I've been using both JenNeo 12's and Weber Sig 12B speakers (that 12B is a killer speaker at a ridiculously low price).

In any event, do yerself a favor and add a 1/4" Switchcraft jack to the chassis and wire that spare green OT tap to it and you'll have an 8 ohm out.

Or turn the existing RCA jack into an 8 ohm out by replacing the yellow 4 ohm OT wire with the green one, and use an 8 ohm internal or external speaker ... and add a mini DPDT switch to the chassis that'll select either the 4 or 8 ohm taps.

Rob DiStefano · April 14th, 2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by rlowe

...Also, if I am going to build a cabinet, would there be any issues with building a cabinet that could be loaded with either a 10 or a 12? I could just make room and cut two different baffles right?

Thanks!

Correct.

Blues Hurler · April 14th, 2008, 01:05 PM

Well....for those of us who may not be up to the 8 ohm conversion, is there a good 4 ohm 12 incher? Or are the JenNeo and Sig 12B available in 4 ohm? Do you think there'd be any increase in headroom with the 12? Or will it just sound louder/bigger? Would the 12B have similar sonic characteristics to the Sig 8 that's in there? Thanks!

rlowe · April 14th, 2008, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Blues Hurler

... Do you think there'd be any increase in headroom with the 12? Or will it just sound louder/bigger? ...

I am going to guess that there will be a slight increase in headroom, however I am not expecting too much there. We are not changing the power output of the amp or anything like that.

I do expect to get a bigger, fuller sound from the larger speaker and more bite on the low end. I think the 8" struggles to keep up with the amp, particularly after doing some of the mods mentioned here.

Anyone hooked the GA-5 up to a 12" cab? Maybe you can share your experience with us.

Thanks!

April 14th, 2008, 12:46 PM	#1018 (permalink)
rlowe TDPRI Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 38 Posts: 29	Speaker Cabinet So, if I were to build an external cabinet for this, should I put in a 10" or a 12"? What speaker recommendations do you all have? Also, if I am going to build a cabinet, would there be any issues with building a cabinet that could be loaded with either a 10 or a 12? I could just make room and cut two different baffles right? Thanks!

April 14th, 2008, 12:47 PM	#1019 (permalink)
Blues Hurler Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 557 6 Photos	I used my GA-5 with the band on Friday night, our other guitar player running a Lil dawg champ chassis with a 12" weber. I could keep up fine, but I'm thinking that it would be better to have the GA-5 run through a 12" spkr, but don't even know where to start! Suggestions? Either for an extension cab with speaker, or perhaps to purchase them separately? What would be your thinking on a well-matched 12" for this little monster? I find my GA-5 dark and overpowered by humbuckers, but sounds good with the Tele. Very little headroom though, and it would be nice to increase that. (though, either guitar sounds great dimed for solo's, and I'd like to keep it that way) __________________ The blues ain't about theory, they's about therapy.

April 14th, 2008, 01:05 PM	#1023 (permalink)
Blues Hurler Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 557 6 Photos	Well....for those of us who may not be up to the 8 ohm conversion, is there a good 4 ohm 12 incher? Or are the JenNeo and Sig 12B available in 4 ohm? Do you think there'd be any increase in headroom with the 12? Or will it just sound louder/bigger? Would the 12B have similar sonic characteristics to the Sig 8 that's in there? Thanks! __________________ The blues ain't about theory, they's about therapy.

April 8th, 2008, 06:36 PM	#1001 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 62 Posts: 4,514	Different speaker? Heck yeah - make that "speakers". Paul's got a Kendrick in his, I stuffed in an 8F150 on a new baffle that proved to be too dark and now I'm running with an 8A125T. I've got a both AlNiCo and ceramic Blue Pups coming to try out as well. Geez, I think this post #1000 on this thread ... yikes!

April 8th, 2008, 06:42 PM	#1002 (permalink)
androo TDPRI Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 79	Awww, come on mistermullens, you bail out and expect to take the EASY way out? ;) Totally kidding... glad you checked back... it's a great thread. So far, a couple of speaker swaps have occurred....I am currently waiting to hear about some Weber Blue Pups or an 8F125 if anyone has that one in the wings. Seems like big old alnico magnets are too much darkening of this amp. I'm personally looking for a tad more clean headroom, hoping that one of the ceramics will get me there, but I'm too chicken to just buy one and try it myself...so I'm totally leeching on to the folks here who are just trying it all! Mebee then I can take a united front to the wife when she wants to know why I spend 60 bucks on a speaker!! :) droo droo

April 11th, 2008, 10:38 AM	#1005 (permalink)
Sevan Simonian TDPRI Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NJ Posts: 19	Hi folks, I've got a simple tech question about hooking up my GA5 to the 2x12's (total 4ohm) in my Fender Twin. The Twin has an external speaker jack that's in parallel with the main speaker jack. I'd like to run the output of the GA5 directly into the external speaker jack on the Twin (with the Twin turned OFF of course). Is there any reason to think that this would somehow harm the internals of the Twin (e.g. output transformer)??? This just seemed like a convenient way to use the Twin as an "external cabinet" for the GA5! FYI, I'm still waiting on my CVA8 from Ted Weber & co. It seems they're pretty busy over there.

April 11th, 2008, 07:55 PM	#1010 (permalink)
tc6969 Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Rockledge Florida Age: 55 Posts: 118	What I'm waiting on is for one of you guys to get the brilliant idea to pull the chassis and put it in another cabinet! Then you can sell me the empty box! I think a matching extension cabinet for this baby would be over the top cool!

April 12th, 2008, 06:15 PM	#1015 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 62 Posts: 4,514	IMO, the GA5 is what it is - gonna be a pain to stuff in a 10" and that still ain't gonna get you into the magic 12" tone arena. The only other non-invasive viable option is to run out to a speaker cab, or combo cab's speaker.

April 13th, 2008, 12:09 PM	#1017 (permalink)
TNO Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 110	My Weber Chicago alnico is coming tomorrow :)