hemp cones

T_red7882 · February 22nd, 2008, 05:29 PM

been hearing a bit about speakers with hemp cones. Is this legit?

Zhurh · February 22nd, 2008, 07:28 PM

Boy I sent 20 lbs in each speaker box back stateside from korea in early 70's. Changed the 66 to 88 on box and paid the E-5 50 bucks at whole bagg to put govt seal around the big ply crate. Goofy dumb junk I did way back when.

T_red7882 · February 22nd, 2008, 08:09 PM

hahaha, thats funny, but i'm serious. One of my favs, ryan adams, had this to say about his gear:
On his live setup:

so the gear changes, you know from time to time. depends opf what
kinda rooms, what mood the cars are pushing but i always try and just
update the same set up ive had for awhile.
it started with princeton reverbs. i had a deluxe but robie turned me
on to princetons and i just fell right in love with them. small, they
push alot of air for a small box. i have one, it came fro Chelsea
Guitars, a nyc guitar shop that is A MUST for visitors. in a single
day, these iconic rad guitar guys just pop in fer a smoke and a hello
and its just a great vibe there if yr into gear.
anyway,
so it goes like this,
two princetons, both tube. we use the hemp speakers, i dunno what
kind, something roboe got stoked on from JHerring. theyre red and rad.
two cabinets, both froom vibrokings.

charlie chitlin · February 22nd, 2008, 08:12 PM

Must be reggae speakers.

mchet · February 22nd, 2008, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_red7882

hahaha, thats funny, but i'm serious. One of my favs, ryan adams, had this to say about his gear:
On his live setup:

so the gear changes, you know from time to time. depends opf what
kinda rooms, what mood the cars are pushing but i always try and just
update the same set up ive had for awhile.
it started with princeton reverbs. i had a deluxe but robie turned me
on to princetons and i just fell right in love with them. small, they
push alot of air for a small box. i have one, it came fro Chelsea
Guitars, a nyc guitar shop that is A MUST for visitors. in a single
day, these iconic rad guitar guys just pop in fer a smoke and a hello
and its just a great vibe there if yr into gear.
anyway,
so it goes like this,
two princetons, both tube. we use the hemp speakers, i dunno what
kind, something roboe got stoked on from JHerring. theyre red and rad.
two cabinets, both froom vibrokings.

Have read some reviews and they seem to lend themselves best to Jazz type applications, but there are people using them for everything. Not alot of low end response by all accounts. I would say they are akin to Polk SDA speakers from the descriptions, clear to smokey in sound. To me that sounds good as I love Polks!

amp boy · February 22nd, 2008, 08:40 PM

i dunno if anyone is saying anything thus far.......
i don't know much, but i have been interested in www.tonetubby.com

nasonm · February 22nd, 2008, 08:41 PM

I think the red framed speakers mentioned by Ryan Adams are the Tone Tubby Hemp Cone speakers. www.tonetubby.com

**EDIT, Ampboy, you beat me to it**

They're awfully expensive and they get a lot of praise, but I wonder if those that tout them are doing so to justify putting a $300 speaker in their amp.

amp boy · February 22nd, 2008, 08:49 PM

www.speakertone.com
tubbies = $230

mad dog · February 22nd, 2008, 08:49 PM

I have two Emi Cannabis Rexes in an old Twilighter (same as Magnatone) 260. Not dark or woofy, rather smooth, quite loud, with a real solid feel and thump in the bass and lots of detail in the highs. If the amp has plenty of bright on tap, plus effective tone controls, the hemp cone stuff might work very well for you. I would not use these in a dark or bass heavy amp. Emi licensed the hemp technology from the tone tubby maker (brown sound?) ... way less money than the Tone Tubbys.

telel6s · February 22nd, 2008, 08:55 PM

I run a Emi Cannabis Rex in a cab with a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia head. Sounds great. I found the Ghia too bright with the Weber Blue Dog I had used at first.

greggorypeccary · February 23rd, 2008, 07:13 AM

I also use a C. Rex, with my Z Maz18 head. I hear that Tone Tubby makes the hemp cones for Eminence. Definitely good for a brighter amp, I had it in the DRRI I used to own and it really tamed the brightness of that amp.

coyoteblue · February 23rd, 2008, 07:44 AM

Same here...I had a Cannabis Rex in my SFDR and it was a great match. A local amp maker stocks Tone Tubbies, so I tried one and it was even better. Big, big bottom. The downside is it takes a long time to break in.

Nub · February 23rd, 2008, 10:42 AM

I have a Cannabis Rex in my BFPR clone, I'm very happy with it. It sounds good at home levels, but at gig levels with a band, it's fantastic.

When I play through it, though, I always get the munchies...

rhinocaster · February 23rd, 2008, 10:51 AM

Hemp cone speakers tend to work very well with bright amps. They generally attenuate the highs and just smooth everything out. As mentioned, these speakers are not a great choice for a dark sounding amp.

One of the interesting things I've heard about hemp is that it breaks in slowly, and it's supposed to be a lifetime material. It's not supposed to become brittle, or tear with age. In fact, you're not supposed to be able to tear the cone with your hands!

I used a custom Tone Tubby in a treble heavy amp and it sounded beautiful.

Dan German · February 23rd, 2008, 11:05 AM

Chalk up one more for Cannabis Rex. Armed with too little knowledge, I went to the store to get a replacement speaker for my PRII. I found that US made Eminence units were less money than Chinese made Celestion. Having always heard good things about Eminence, and mixed reviews of Celestion, I looked at the choices and picked the hemp. Glad I did. Talking about sound is like dancing about architecture, but "smoky" is a fair enough adjective. Something about the tone seems sturdier, too. And it gets better as it gets turned up. There might be a lessening of the piercingly high range, but I avoid that anyway. And I think it might respond better to my amp's tone controls than the original.

RomanS · February 23rd, 2008, 04:28 PM

Another Cannabis Rex user here - too dark for my JTM45 clone, but works great for taming the highs in my Carvin Vintage 16.

TexGoneNW · February 23rd, 2008, 06:57 PM

I have an alnico 12" Tone Tubby in a Deluxe Reverb that was tricked out by Two Rock. I can't pin down what of that amp is most awesome, but I'm sure the speaker is part of it.

BottyGuy · February 23rd, 2008, 06:58 PM

I have the Ceramic (Green) Tone Tubby in my Deluxe Reverb clone, I really like it. Very nice clean sound great low end, I think it is a good match for what is normally a bright amp.

amp boy · February 23rd, 2008, 08:35 PM

anybody know how would the the 12" Tubby Alinco or ceramic would be in a 5E3...??

rhinocaster · February 23rd, 2008, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amp boy

anybody know how would the the 12" Tubby Alinco or ceramic would be in a 5E3...??

Not 100% sure how it would sound, but you'd be adding a speaker with limited lows and highs to an amp with limited lows and highs. I doubt that I would like a hemp speaker in a 5E3.

amp boy · February 23rd, 2008, 11:32 PM

thanks Rhino.....
I've made up my mind....I'm getting a Weber 12" 12A150T.
Been thinking about it for some time now.......the tubbies are going into a 2x12 cab in the future.....i think their alinco and ceramic duo of the "H bomb" will do well in utilizing future builds. I'll have to research it more, but i'm getting the feeling it makes a lot of sense. plus i know i won't have the cash for a speaker and cab over here.....and then another over there.
i find all of this so damn interesting.
i think it could be a complex, I'm not even a musician or much of a "good" guitar player, but i love it.

DrewB · February 24th, 2008, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhinocaster

Not 100% sure how it would sound, but you'd be adding a speaker with limited lows and highs to an amp with limited lows and highs. I doubt that I would like a hemp speaker in a 5E3.

You might well be surprised. I usually plug a Les Paul into my 5E3 driving a Cannabis Rex, and there's definitely no shortage of highs or lows. The bottom isn't real tight, but that's the circuit, more than anything.

rhinocaster · February 24th, 2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrewB

You might well be surprised. I usually plug a Les Paul into my 5E3 driving a Cannabis Rex, and there's definitely no shortage of highs or lows. The bottom isn't real tight, but that's the circuit, more than anything.

I can tell you right now that compared to the Teles that I play through my 5E3, a Paul through the amp with ANY speaker starts to sound like there's a blanket over the amp. As many have pointed out here, hemp cone speakers help to attenuate the highs. To my ear that's the last thing that a 5E3 needs.

I will say that I expect your tone with your setup is fantastic. I don't think that it would work for me.

furrfurrfurr · February 24th, 2008, 09:54 AM

Hooray Hemp!

DrewB · February 24th, 2008, 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhinocaster

I can tell you right now that compared to the Teles that I play through my 5E3, a Paul through the amp with ANY speaker starts to sound like there's a blanket over the amp. As many have pointed out here, hemp cone speakers help to attenuate the highs. To my ear that's the last thing that a 5E3 needs.

Well, yeah, sure, Lester is going to sound a bit thicker in the mids. FWIW, I end up rolling the tone back a bit on the bridge pickup of my Tele (Duncan Broadcaster) through the 5E3. That amp is a wonderful match for a Tele.

February 22nd, 2008, 05:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
T_red7882 Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco Age: 26 Posts: 709	hemp cones been hearing a bit about speakers with hemp cones. Is this legit?

February 22nd, 2008, 08:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
charlie chitlin Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bucktown, Pa Age: 46 Posts: 2,176	Must be reggae speakers. __________________ Nil illigitimi carborundum http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...6-bf3537901a07

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amp boy Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 330 4 Photos	i dunno if anyone is saying anything thus far....... i don't know much, but i have been interested in www.tonetubby.com __________________ I'm kinda like class act simplicity with a raw edge that can rip out yer bones.

February 22nd, 2008, 08:41 PM	#7 (permalink)
nasonm Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bangor, Maine Age: 31 Posts: 1,591 16 Photos	I think the red framed speakers mentioned by Ryan Adams are the Tone Tubby Hemp Cone speakers. www.tonetubby.com EDIT, Ampboy, you beat me to it They're awfully expensive and they get a lot of praise, but I wonder if those that tout them are doing so to justify putting a $300 speaker in their amp. __________________ "i have learned to just grit my teeth, change the subject, consider their deep total ignorance, fondle the thumb picks in my pocket and go on my way" - bender-freak It's been lonely in the saddle since my horse died

February 22nd, 2008, 08:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
amp boy Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 330 4 Photos	www.speakertone.com tubbies = $230 __________________ I'm kinda like class act simplicity with a raw edge that can rip out yer bones.

February 22nd, 2008, 07:28 PM	#2 (permalink)
Zhurh Tele-Meister Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Eagle, Alaska (along the Yukon) Age: 54 Posts: 203	Boy I sent 20 lbs in each speaker box back stateside from korea in early 70's. Changed the 66 to 88 on box and paid the E-5 50 bucks at whole bagg to put govt seal around the big ply crate. Goofy dumb junk I did way back when.

February 22nd, 2008, 08:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
T_red7882 Tele-Holic Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: San Francisco Age: 26 Posts: 709	hahaha, thats funny, but i'm serious. One of my favs, ryan adams, had this to say about his gear: On his live setup: so the gear changes, you know from time to time. depends opf what kinda rooms, what mood the cars are pushing but i always try and just update the same set up ive had for awhile. it started with princeton reverbs. i had a deluxe but robie turned me on to princetons and i just fell right in love with them. small, they push alot of air for a small box. i have one, it came fro Chelsea Guitars, a nyc guitar shop that is A MUST for visitors. in a single day, these iconic rad guitar guys just pop in fer a smoke and a hello and its just a great vibe there if yr into gear. anyway, so it goes like this, two princetons, both tube. we use the hemp speakers, i dunno what kind, something roboe got stoked on from JHerring. theyre red and rad. two cabinets, both froom vibrokings.

February 22nd, 2008, 08:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
mad dog Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 734	I have two Emi Cannabis Rexes in an old Twilighter (same as Magnatone) 260. Not dark or woofy, rather smooth, quite loud, with a real solid feel and thump in the bass and lots of detail in the highs. If the amp has plenty of bright on tap, plus effective tone controls, the hemp cone stuff might work very well for you. I would not use these in a dark or bass heavy amp. Emi licensed the hemp technology from the tone tubby maker (brown sound?) ... way less money than the Tone Tubbys.

February 22nd, 2008, 08:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
telel6s Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 1,171 80 Photos	I run a Emi Cannabis Rex in a cab with a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia head. Sounds great. I found the Ghia too bright with the Weber Blue Dog I had used at first. __________________ Mama always said, "A little tone is good for the soul."

February 23rd, 2008, 07:13 AM	#11 (permalink)
greggorypeccary Tele-Holic Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 790 27 Photos	I also use a C. Rex, with my Z Maz18 head. I hear that Tone Tubby makes the hemp cones for Eminence. Definitely good for a brighter amp, I had it in the DRRI I used to own and it really tamed the brightness of that amp. __________________ I got the rockin' pneumonia, I need a shot of rhythm and blues! http://www.myspace.com/javablue

February 23rd, 2008, 07:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
coyoteblue TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 74	Same here...I had a Cannabis Rex in my SFDR and it was a great match. A local amp maker stocks Tone Tubbies, so I tried one and it was even better. Big, big bottom. The downside is it takes a long time to break in.

February 23rd, 2008, 10:42 AM	#13 (permalink)
Nub Tele-Holic Join Date: May 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 856	I have a Cannabis Rex in my BFPR clone, I'm very happy with it. It sounds good at home levels, but at gig levels with a band, it's fantastic. When I play through it, though, I always get the munchies...

February 23rd, 2008, 10:51 AM	#14 (permalink)
rhinocaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Oregon Age: 44 Posts: 1,212	Hemp cone speakers tend to work very well with bright amps. They generally attenuate the highs and just smooth everything out. As mentioned, these speakers are not a great choice for a dark sounding amp. One of the interesting things I've heard about hemp is that it breaks in slowly, and it's supposed to be a lifetime material. It's not supposed to become brittle, or tear with age. In fact, you're not supposed to be able to tear the cone with your hands! I used a custom Tone Tubby in a treble heavy amp and it sounded beautiful. __________________ Just because I "Don't" get it doesn't mean I "Won't" get it!

February 23rd, 2008, 11:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
Dan German Tele-Holic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rupertsland Age: 48 Posts: 648	Chalk up one more for Cannabis Rex. Armed with too little knowledge, I went to the store to get a replacement speaker for my PRII. I found that US made Eminence units were less money than Chinese made Celestion. Having always heard good things about Eminence, and mixed reviews of Celestion, I looked at the choices and picked the hemp. Glad I did. Talking about sound is like dancing about architecture, but "smoky" is a fair enough adjective. Something about the tone seems sturdier, too. And it gets better as it gets turned up. There might be a lessening of the piercingly high range, but I avoid that anyway. And I think it might respond better to my amp's tone controls than the original. __________________ Higgy

February 23rd, 2008, 04:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
RomanS Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vienna, Austria Age: 36 Posts: 2,710 14 Photos	Another Cannabis Rex user here - too dark for my JTM45 clone, but works great for taming the highs in my Carvin Vintage 16. __________________ http://www.pbase.com/romans http://www.myspace.com/romans212

February 23rd, 2008, 06:57 PM	#17 (permalink)
TexGoneNW Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Victoria, TX Age: 50 Posts: 907 4 Photos	I have an alnico 12" Tone Tubby in a Deluxe Reverb that was tricked out by Two Rock. I can't pin down what of that amp is most awesome, but I'm sure the speaker is part of it.

February 23rd, 2008, 06:58 PM	#18 (permalink)
BottyGuy Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: North Carolina Age: 48 Posts: 184	I have the Ceramic (Green) Tone Tubby in my Deluxe Reverb clone, I really like it. Very nice clean sound great low end, I think it is a good match for what is normally a bright amp.

February 23rd, 2008, 08:35 PM	#19 (permalink)
amp boy Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 330 4 Photos	anybody know how would the the 12" Tubby Alinco or ceramic would be in a 5E3...?? __________________ I'm kinda like class act simplicity with a raw edge that can rip out yer bones.

February 23rd, 2008, 11:32 PM	#21 (permalink)
amp boy Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: toronto, Canada Age: 27 Posts: 330 4 Photos	thanks Rhino..... I've made up my mind....I'm getting a Weber 12" 12A150T. Been thinking about it for some time now.......the tubbies are going into a 2x12 cab in the future.....i think their alinco and ceramic duo of the "H bomb" will do well in utilizing future builds. I'll have to research it more, but i'm getting the feeling it makes a lot of sense. plus i know i won't have the cash for a speaker and cab over here.....and then another over there. i find all of this so damn interesting. i think it could be a complex, I'm not even a musician or much of a "good" guitar player, but i love it. __________________ I'm kinda like class act simplicity with a raw edge that can rip out yer bones.

February 24th, 2008, 09:54 AM	#24 (permalink)
furrfurrfurr Friend of Leo's Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: South of Heaven Posts: 2,201	Hooray Hemp! __________________ Hope I'm not too Messianic or a trifle too Satanic. Meow.

February 24th, 2008, 11:42 AM	#26 (permalink)
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