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Old February 20th, 2008, 03:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Blackface Princeton (NR): Ragin' Cajun or Lil' Buddy?

For those who know the tone/volume profile of the non-Reverb Blackface Princeton, which 10" speaker would you choose and why?

A little background: I use a stock American Tele through this amp, and it has the stock Oxford 10L5. I'm looking for more volume, warmth, fullness, and a little less treble. Kind of a mix or the best of a 10" and a 12". I know the Lil' Buddy is supposed to be very smooth on top, but I read somewhere that it wasn't that great as far as volume. Anyone else hear this? The Cajun seems like it might fill out the mids nicely in a pretty scooped amp like this, and everyone says they are loud. But, the idea that I can finally put my Treble above 2 with the Lil' Buddy might be cool too.

I don't really know... any replies appreciated.


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Old February 21st, 2008, 01:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Or maybe Eminence Delta Demon -- seems like a smoother treble response, but it's the quietest of all the Patriot 10s and I need a boost from my Oxford 10.

Any insights?

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Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:39 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 12:42 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've got a '71 NR Princeton.

Came with the stock Fender Oxford ceramic speaker. Blahh. It's boxed up for safe keeping.

Next I put in a Carvin Vintage 10 that is supposed to be like Celestion 10. Louder but too bassy and boomy. I like those speakers better ( I have two) in a closed back cab.

Third up was a Weber alnico Blue Pup. Weber's 10" version of a Celestion Blue. I have never even thought of taking that speaker out in the three and half years it's been in there. Maybe if I tried others I'd find something I would like better, but I'm taking the "if ain't broke, don't fix it" attitude.

Isn't Emi making a 10" version of their Red Fang now? I've heard good things about the Fang and I believe they are plenty efficient if you want the most volume out of a 12 watt amp.

I've also run this through an extension with a 15F125 (too bright and thin) and a Emi Cannabis Rex (not bad but didn't get me jumping either).

BTW, I think that the NR Princeton's are one of the great steals in vintage amps these days. With a little looking you can still find them for under $400. And I love having this amp that can be turned up to 10 and not completely blow you away. But it stays cleaner at that level than a Champ....until you push it with some wide open P-90s. Yum.
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Old February 22nd, 2008, 01:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I love my Eminence Ramrod. I have them in my 2x10 cab thing they are warm and full as you decibed. Great price too.

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