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Old November 13th, 2007, 01:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1982 Fender Concert II, 60watt, 2-12 Combo.

What are your thoughts on this amp?

A buddy of mine just got one, and refurbished it.

I got my opinion on it, but I wonder what you guys think about it.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:22 AM   #2 (permalink)
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1982 Fender Concert II, 60watt, 2-12 Combo.

What are your thoughts on this amp?

A buddy of mine just got one, and refurbished it.

I got my opinion on it, but I wonder what you guys think about it.
I've played a few of those amps in the 1X12 format. I find the amp to be glassy and stiff sounding. No real bloom to the notes, and the controls are very sensitive. It's a very "tweaky" amp. I was always trying to dial something in or something out of the sound. It seems like a cool idea to find a strong, multi-channel and gain stage Fender that's handwired for so little money, but at the end of the day I don't find it to be one of Fenders more musical amps. If I had to play one, I'd probably drop in a speaker like a scumback to try to attenuate some of the high end harshness. That might work.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 02:33 AM   #3 (permalink)
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1982 Fender Concert II, 60watt, 2-12 Combo.

What are your thoughts on this amp?

A buddy of mine just got one, and refurbished it.

I got my opinion on it, but I wonder what you guys think about it.
Are you sure it's a 2-12? I thought it only came as a 1-12, 2-10, and 4-10. I've owned the 2-10 version since it was new. Just haven't gotten around to selling it...(which isn't much of an endorsement)
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Old November 13th, 2007, 01:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Good amps, basically. The OEM Eminence speakers leave something to be desired. I have found that a speaker change works wonders for the Rivera-designed FEnders. IF that is a 2X10, I would suggest an Alnico speaker.
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Old November 13th, 2007, 03:36 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Loud, clean and stiff.

I had a 4x10, it was fine, but not inspiring. It liked my Les Paul a lot, but most guitars sounded quite cold and sterile.

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Old November 13th, 2007, 08:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yup, I made a mistake: It is the 2-10.

I like the clean channel a lot, and I like putin a good OD on the clean side. Absolutely stellar sounding to my ears. The od is a little off in my book, but I havent had a lot of time to tweak the od channel.
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Old November 14th, 2007, 03:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I used to have the 2x10 model as well. Sold it and haven't looked back. Those Rivera designed models were different beasts. I founf it to be stiff, dull and lifeless, kind of like a Mesa. It never had the chime, sparkle or spank of a real SF or BF era amp. The gain channel was useless. sorry, I pass on those things.
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Old November 14th, 2007, 09:38 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hey Stephen! I've played through a couple of 'em years ago. They are kind of Fenders answer to the Boogie MkII, with channel switching, a high gain channel, etc. I found the distortion channel to be utterly useless, and the clean channel was just OK. I've never had the opportunity to crank the clean side to see how it distorts, so no comment there. As with other amps like this, most players seem to stay on the clean side and use pedals.
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Old November 14th, 2007, 10:13 AM   #9 (permalink)
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the Rivera-designed Fenders
If I remember what I read in The Soul of Tone correctly, Rivera did not design the amps from his era, not in terms of the actual innards. He proposed the overall concepts, which R&D turned into amps.

Perhaps the TDPRI can be the first place on the net to get this right?! Maybe by saying "Rivera-era Fenders." Heck, it even has internal rhyme!

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If I remember what I read in The Soul of Tone correctly, Rivera did not design the amps from his era, not in terms of the actual innards. He proposed the overall concepts, which R&D turned into amps.

Perhaps the TDPRI can be the first place on the net to get this right?! Maybe by saying "Rivera-era Fenders." Heck, it even has internal rhyme!

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This is how I have known it with the exception of the Super-Champ (and it's spin-offs Champ II and Bassman 20) which was a design of Rivera's which he considers to be one of his earliest. I don't remember exactly where I read this, but I do remember it being an interview with Paul Rivera himself.
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If I remember what I read in The Soul of Tone correctly, Rivera did not design the amps from his era, not in terms of the actual innards. He proposed the overall concepts, which R&D turned into amps.

Perhaps the TDPRI can be the first place on the net to get this right?! Maybe by saying "Rivera-era Fenders." Heck, it even has internal rhyme!

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Okay - how about the "Proposed Rivera Concept Era" Fenders, or PRCE, for short?

One could say that CBS only proposed things as well, but I never hear many people whining about the "CBS-era" Fender moniker.

It's just shorthand lingo - right or wrong. One of the most famous Marshall amps - the "Plexi," isn't an amp at all. But most people are content with the term just the same.
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Torres had a mod kit for those years back that supposively
would help the tone circuit be more like a BF Fender.
I don't know if Torres is still around now.
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Old November 15th, 2007, 12:54 AM   #13 (permalink)
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My buddy has a really sweet strat with Kinman pups installed, and it sounded so awesome through his Concert II.

I'm really thinking bout getting a 1-12 model, and dropping a Vintage 30 in there......
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