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Primo Don · October 27th, 2003, 11:57 AM

I need to replace a bad speaker in a PV extension cab for bass. Are guitar and bass speakers essentially the same thing? Can someone make a suggestion? They are 10", 4 ohm speakers, 2 of 'em.

Thanks, Adam

fink · October 27th, 2003, 12:06 PM

I have heard that bass speakers are very inefficient...

To get frequency response down to the lowest frequencies, there is some trade-off for power and headroom. So a speaker with a cutoff down in the "low B" range will typically be less efficient than it's couterpart for guitar. And of course it takes a ton of power to amplify bass for this reason.

So a bass speaker would probably be great for guitar but not vice versa.

-Dan

EMan · October 28th, 2003, 11:30 AM

...I have blown guitar speakers playing bass through a guitar amp..but never a bass amp speaker using a six string..

Big Cookie · October 28th, 2003, 12:30 PM

You will likely blow a guitar speaker playing bass through it. You can play guitar through a bass speaker if you don't mind sounding like doo - doo.

Primo Don · October 28th, 2003, 03:41 PM

Then to whom/where should I look for bass speakers?

Adam

Bluesbob · October 28th, 2003, 08:48 PM

I think some bass cab manufacturers use Eminence 10's. Or, you could order 2 10's from SWR or another of the bass cabinet makers, but you'll pay through the nose.

JohnS · October 29th, 2003, 11:08 AM

The waveform of a low bass note is very big physically. A bass speaker has a longer excursion (throw) than a guitar speaker to reproduce the notes. Typically a bass cone travel is about 1/4" whereas a guitar speaker only moves 1/8' max. This is what kills a guitar speaker used for bass.

Ben Harmless · October 29th, 2003, 04:54 PM

Dave at Avatar can get you good prices on Eminence bass speakers - or Celestion if they make them, though I haven't bothered to check.

You can probably also buy cheapish Peavey bass speakers from Musician's Friend.

October 27th, 2003, 11:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
Primo Don Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 32 Posts: 381	Are bass speakers and guitar speakers interchangeable? I need to replace a bad speaker in a PV extension cab for bass. Are guitar and bass speakers essentially the same thing? Can someone make a suggestion? They are 10", 4 ohm speakers, 2 of 'em. Thanks, Adam __________________ Why yes, I do have a liberal arts degree...do you want fries with that?

October 28th, 2003, 11:30 AM	#3 (permalink)
EMan Tele-Holic Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 939	I'll say this... ...I have blown guitar speakers playing bass through a guitar amp..but never a bass amp speaker using a six string..

October 28th, 2003, 12:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Big Cookie Banned Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ennis, Texas Posts: 693	Bass - Guitar Speakers You will likely blow a guitar speaker playing bass through it. You can play guitar through a bass speaker if you don't mind sounding like doo - doo.

October 28th, 2003, 03:41 PM	#5 (permalink)
Primo Don Tele-Meister Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando, FL Age: 32 Posts: 381	So I gather that's a "no"... Then to whom/where should I look for bass speakers? Adam __________________ Why yes, I do have a liberal arts degree...do you want fries with that?

October 28th, 2003, 08:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Bluesbob Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: East Suffolk L.I. Posts: 1,246 20 Photos	Eminence I think some bass cab manufacturers use Eminence 10's. Or, you could order 2 10's from SWR or another of the bass cabinet makers, but you'll pay through the nose. __________________ What, me worry?

October 27th, 2003, 12:06 PM	#2 (permalink)
fink TDPRI Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 65	I have heard that bass speakers are very inefficient... To get frequency response down to the lowest frequencies, there is some trade-off for power and headroom. So a speaker with a cutoff down in the "low B" range will typically be less efficient than it's couterpart for guitar. And of course it takes a ton of power to amplify bass for this reason. So a bass speaker would probably be great for guitar but not vice versa. -Dan

October 29th, 2003, 11:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
JohnS Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 60 Posts: 512 25 Photos	Bass speakers are for bass The waveform of a low bass note is very big physically. A bass speaker has a longer excursion (throw) than a guitar speaker to reproduce the notes. Typically a bass cone travel is about 1/4" whereas a guitar speaker only moves 1/8' max. This is what kills a guitar speaker used for bass.

October 29th, 2003, 04:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
Ben Harmless Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Albany, NY US of A Posts: 4,348 13 Photos	Dave at Avatar can get you good prices on Eminence bass speakers - or Celestion if they make them, though I haven't bothered to check. You can probably also buy cheapish Peavey bass speakers from Musician's Friend. __________________ "I think I'll go for the life of sin, followed by the last-minute, presto-change-o, deathbed repentance." - B. Simpson "...Because we all expect the truth, we must be the best of fools." - Stiff Little Fingers

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