I guess he doesn't really want to sell this amp.

CharlieO · September 2nd, 2007, 11:01 AM

I am always looking for inexpensive new toys in the local paper, on eBay, in local stores, or wherever. I've often thought I'd pick up a Princeton Reverb if I could find one locally at a fair price. I'd like to try it before I buy it. Anyway, I found this one on eBay that happens to be located in the city where I live.

http://cgi.ebay.com/FENDER-PRINCETON...QQcmdZViewItem I contacted the seller to ask if I could check it out, and his reply was "Hi sorry it is double boxed ready to go thanks for your intrest eddie." It's obvious that this guy sells a lot of stuff on eBay, but wouldn't you think that with no bids (at the time I'm writing this) after having it listed for a while he'd take a shot at a potential easy local sale?

By the way, I think he'd get more interest if his starting bid was lower, and I also think that $600 is pretty close to full price for the amp, based on its apparent condition, but it hit $660 in a previous auction and that was below his reserve. I doubt that he'll see that price again, and I think he should have taken it. Comments?

JohnnyCrash · September 2nd, 2007, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO

I am always looking for inexpensive new toys in the local paper, on eBay, in local stores, or wherever. I've often thought I'd pick up a Princeton Reverb if I could find one locally at a fair price. I'd like to try it before I buy it. Anyway, I found this one on eBay that happens to be located in the city where I live.

http://cgi.ebay.com/FENDER-PRINCETON...QQcmdZViewItem I contacted the seller to ask if I could check it out, and his reply was "Hi sorry it is double boxed ready to go thanks for your intrest eddie." It's obvious that this guy sells a lot of stuff on eBay, but wouldn't you think that with no bids (at the time I'm writing this) after having it listed for a while he'd take a shot at a potential easy local sale?

By the way, I think he'd get more interest if his starting bid was lower, and I also think that $600 is pretty close to full price for the amp, based on its apparent condition, but it hit $660 in a previous auction and that was below his reserve. I doubt that he'll see that price again, and I think he should have taken it. Comments?

1. He's not going to sell it until it hits the value he thinks it should.
2. He may or may not adjust his reserve if it doesn't sell for a while.
3. I would not buy it from that guy.

A SF seems to be going for $400 - $600 and BF are going for $900 - $1500+

If it hit $660 in another auction and he still wasn't happy, what do you think he'll want from you? Aint worth the hassle of a fickle seller.

Markl8 · September 2nd, 2007, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieO

I am always looking for inexpensive new toys in the local paper, on eBay, in local stores, or wherever. I've often thought I'd pick up a Princeton Reverb if I could find one locally at a fair price. I'd like to try it before I buy it. Anyway, I found this one on eBay that happens to be located in the city where I live.

http://cgi.ebay.com/FENDER-PRINCETON...QQcmdZViewItem I contacted the seller to ask if I could check it out, and his reply was "Hi sorry it is double boxed ready to go thanks for your intrest eddie." It's obvious that this guy sells a lot of stuff on eBay, but wouldn't you think that with no bids (at the time I'm writing this) after having it listed for a while he'd take a shot at a potential easy local sale?

By the way, I think he'd get more interest if his starting bid was lower, and I also think that $600 is pretty close to full price for the amp, based on its apparent condition, but it hit $660 in a previous auction and that was below his reserve. I doubt that he'll see that price again, and I think he should have taken it. Comments?

Late 70's pull boost volume a lot of people wont bite because of that alone. I doubt he's gonna get 760.00 for it on a good day.

Bluesbob · September 2nd, 2007, 11:22 AM

He is asking too much to begin with and even though he lowered his BIN (to $100 more than the previous high bid!), it is still way too high. I bought a real '72 (no footswitch or cover and blown speaker) for $580 a few months ago. It is in really nice, clean (almost mint) shape and played perfectly (with a new speaker). Plus the "already boxed" excuse is just lame. Stay away.

CharlieO · September 2nd, 2007, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Markl8

Late 70's pull boost volume a lot of people wont bite because of that alone. I doubt he's gonna get 760.00 for it on a good day.

That was my thinking. I'd be happy with it, at the right price. I was originally thinking I'd offer him the $475 starting bid, but I thought I could pay a little more for the convenience of buying locally and having a chance to try it out.

I guess I'll wait to see if he gives in after trying to auction it a couple more times.

Wally · September 2nd, 2007, 03:50 PM

The completed auctions are of interest.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Princeton...QQcmdZViewItem
OTher sililar a bit lower, a bit higher.

Spidercaster · September 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM

Myself and a friend had a similar experience with an Ebay seller who lives about 30 minutes away. He had a few CS Fender's for sale, but had no interest in meeting either of us (we contacted him separately about 2 different guitars) so we could play them first.

I'd pass on this one as well.

stevieboy · September 2nd, 2007, 04:38 PM

Maybe he just wants to sell on ebay via net and mail and that's why he doesn't use craig's list or whatever local options there are. I personally don't like to buy stuff without trying it either, but I can't say I blame people for not want total strangers coming over to their house, not to mention the time involved for making an appointment, etc., with no guarantee that the person isn't a flake. It's not an unreasonable way to do business. Works for a lot of sellers, and buyers too.

Can't comment on the price.

cg73cmc · September 2nd, 2007, 07:18 PM

I would not show any item to a local bidder prior to it being won in an auction. Reason - it's a hassle to meet people locally who may or may not be serious about buying the item. I just don't have the time for it either. On the stuff I've sold, my standard response is "Thanks, you're welcome to arrange a local pickup if you are the winner of the item and I will omit shipping charges from the final price ... Good Luck!"

Bottom line - if you want to see it - win the auction and buy it. Also, I make them pay PRIOR to local pickup - because I don't want to deal with any hassle about "This isn't exactly what I wanted". Part of the benefit of EBay is the "zipless" autobon freeway of sales it permits. I'm willing to help out a guy if he wants to pick the item up - but I'd open a guitar shop if I wanted to allow folks to peruse the merchandise.

My feedback is 100 percent positive so I think it works for me. This guy's PR may not sell because he has it priced wrong - not because he's unwilling to show it locally.

CharlieO · September 2nd, 2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cg73cmc

Bottom line - if you want to see it - win the auction and buy it. Also, I make them pay PRIOR to local pickup - because I don't want to deal with any hassle about "This isn't exactly what I wanted". Part of the benefit of EBay is the "zipless" autobon freeway of sales it permits. I'm willing to help out a guy if he wants to pick the item up - but I'd open a guitar shop if I wanted to allow folks to peruse the merchandise.

My feedback is 100 percent positive so I think it works for me. This guy's PR may not sell because he has it priced wrong - not because he's unwilling to show it locally.

I understand what you are saying, but I guess I figure that he's got a better chance at selling the amp if he lets me come by to try it than he does if he continues to list it on eBay at the wrong price. It looks like this guy is a serious eBay seller, but he just has mis-priced the amp. It's obviously not a great example of a Princeton Reverb, and he hasn't adjusted his thinking to reflect that.

I can wait a while for him to reduce his price target. If someone else pays too much and I miss it, it's no big deal to me.

maestrovert · September 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM

Jes' m.h.o. here but i think he'll jes' hold out 'til he gets his price......and chances are he will.....eventually.

G-P · September 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM

I don't see the big deal. He obviously has better things to do with his time than to sit around waiting for someone to come over and kick a tire or two and then maybe buy the amp. Or maybe the stranger will just show up with a van and a couple buddies and clean him out? Tough to say what his reasoning is.

If he has the amp already prepped for shipping and the amp is available in a ongoing auction, I can understand him not wanting to unpack it just so someone can try it out, go home and entering the winning bid. Seems unlikely and mostly just a lot of work.

I guess that's the price of doing business in a non brick-n-mortar economy.

tbp0701 · September 3rd, 2007, 12:20 PM

The market seems to be insane on these. I've been wanting a SFPR for a while, but I watched as the prices soared. I'm wondering if there was a shift, and the amps became mainly for collectors, so many musicians stopped looking and now there are all these very pricey Princetons just waiting for the right collector to snag them.

I was also looking through the Gear Page this morning and can't believe there's a SF Deluxe Reverb on there for $650, and it seems to have been there a few days. It's tempting. Shipping one would probably be very expensive and risky though, wouldn't it? But I know PRs have a great following, but are they getting as much or more than DRs? Aren't the reissues around $850?

(EDIT: Oh, the tremolo circuit doesn't work and he says it may need a going over from a tech, which may be scaring off people, especially collectors).

There's also some guy selling both a ValveTrain Po-Boy for $300 and what he says is a US Pro Jr. for $175? (I already have a MiM Pro Jr) It looks like he just signed on that forum to sell the stuff, which may be scaring people. But dang.

CharlieO · September 4th, 2007, 09:05 PM

Dang, he sold it this time for $670. That's a lot of money for that amp.

Bluesbob · September 5th, 2007, 01:52 PM

$10.00 more than last time.

September 2nd, 2007, 11:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
CharlieO Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Age: 56 Posts: 1,313 9 Photos	I guess he doesn't really want to sell this amp. I am always looking for inexpensive new toys in the local paper, on eBay, in local stores, or wherever. I've often thought I'd pick up a Princeton Reverb if I could find one locally at a fair price. I'd like to try it before I buy it. Anyway, I found this one on eBay that happens to be located in the city where I live. http://cgi.ebay.com/FENDER-PRINCETON...QQcmdZViewItem I contacted the seller to ask if I could check it out, and his reply was "Hi sorry it is double boxed ready to go thanks for your intrest eddie." It's obvious that this guy sells a lot of stuff on eBay, but wouldn't you think that with no bids (at the time I'm writing this) after having it listed for a while he'd take a shot at a potential easy local sale? By the way, I think he'd get more interest if his starting bid was lower, and I also think that $600 is pretty close to full price for the amp, based on its apparent condition, but it hit $660 in a previous auction and that was below his reserve. I doubt that he'll see that price again, and I think he should have taken it. Comments? __________________ http://www.CharlesOffer.com

September 2nd, 2007, 11:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bluesbob Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: East Suffolk L.I. Posts: 1,016 20 Photos	I agree... He is asking too much to begin with and even though he lowered his BIN (to $100 more than the previous high bid!), it is still way too high. I bought a real '72 (no footswitch or cover and blown speaker) for $580 a few months ago. It is in really nice, clean (almost mint) shape and played perfectly (with a new speaker). Plus the "already boxed" excuse is just lame. Stay away. __________________ What, me worry?

September 2nd, 2007, 04:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
Spidercaster Tele-Afflicted Join Date: May 2005 Location: New York Posts: 1,044 5 Photos	Myself and a friend had a similar experience with an Ebay seller who lives about 30 minutes away. He had a few CS Fender's for sale, but had no interest in meeting either of us (we contacted him separately about 2 different guitars) so we could play them first. I'd pass on this one as well. __________________ "Just keep one thing in mind............I may remember it all differently tomorrow." - Neil Young http://www.youtube.com/user/Richeray

September 2nd, 2007, 04:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
stevieboy Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: the valley Posts: 2,292 6 Photos	Maybe he just wants to sell on ebay via net and mail and that's why he doesn't use craig's list or whatever local options there are. I personally don't like to buy stuff without trying it either, but I can't say I blame people for not want total strangers coming over to their house, not to mention the time involved for making an appointment, etc., with no guarantee that the person isn't a flake. It's not an unreasonable way to do business. Works for a lot of sellers, and buyers too. Can't comment on the price. __________________ "One of the best bands ever. These guys were such perfectionist"--Youtube user comment

September 2nd, 2007, 07:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
cg73cmc Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 693	I would not show any item to a local bidder prior to it being won in an auction. Reason - it's a hassle to meet people locally who may or may not be serious about buying the item. I just don't have the time for it either. On the stuff I've sold, my standard response is "Thanks, you're welcome to arrange a local pickup if you are the winner of the item and I will omit shipping charges from the final price ... Good Luck!" Bottom line - if you want to see it - win the auction and buy it. Also, I make them pay PRIOR to local pickup - because I don't want to deal with any hassle about "This isn't exactly what I wanted". Part of the benefit of EBay is the "zipless" autobon freeway of sales it permits. I'm willing to help out a guy if he wants to pick the item up - but I'd open a guitar shop if I wanted to allow folks to peruse the merchandise. My feedback is 100 percent positive so I think it works for me. This guy's PR may not sell because he has it priced wrong - not because he's unwilling to show it locally. __________________ Take Care! Mark "If I'd known I was going to be a big guitar hero -- I would have practiced more" -- Ace Frehley

September 2nd, 2007, 03:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
Wally Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,772	The completed auctions are of interest. http://cgi.ebay.com/Fender-Princeton...QQcmdZViewItem OTher sililar a bit lower, a bit higher.

September 2nd, 2007, 10:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
maestrovert Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: West Branch Mi. Posts: 6,236	Jes' m.h.o. here but i think he'll jes' hold out 'til he gets his price......and chances are he will.....eventually. __________________ Sing the Song Bro' Play on Drummer www.godonthe.net

September 2nd, 2007, 11:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
G-P Tele-Meister Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: PDX Posts: 148	I don't see the big deal. He obviously has better things to do with his time than to sit around waiting for someone to come over and kick a tire or two and then maybe buy the amp. Or maybe the stranger will just show up with a van and a couple buddies and clean him out? Tough to say what his reasoning is. If he has the amp already prepped for shipping and the amp is available in a ongoing auction, I can understand him not wanting to unpack it just so someone can try it out, go home and entering the winning bid. Seems unlikely and mostly just a lot of work. I guess that's the price of doing business in a non brick-n-mortar economy.

September 3rd, 2007, 12:20 PM	#13 (permalink)
tbp0701 Tele-Meister Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 418	The market seems to be insane on these. I've been wanting a SFPR for a while, but I watched as the prices soared. I'm wondering if there was a shift, and the amps became mainly for collectors, so many musicians stopped looking and now there are all these very pricey Princetons just waiting for the right collector to snag them. I was also looking through the Gear Page this morning and can't believe there's a SF Deluxe Reverb on there for $650, and it seems to have been there a few days. It's tempting. Shipping one would probably be very expensive and risky though, wouldn't it? But I know PRs have a great following, but are they getting as much or more than DRs? Aren't the reissues around $850? (EDIT: Oh, the tremolo circuit doesn't work and he says it may need a going over from a tech, which may be scaring off people, especially collectors). There's also some guy selling both a ValveTrain Po-Boy for $300 and what he says is a US Pro Jr. for $175? (I already have a MiM Pro Jr) It looks like he just signed on that forum to sell the stuff, which may be scaring people. But dang.

September 4th, 2007, 09:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
CharlieO Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sarasota, FL Age: 56 Posts: 1,313 9 Photos	Dang, he sold it this time for $670. That's a lot of money for that amp. __________________ http://www.CharlesOffer.com

September 5th, 2007, 01:52 PM	#15 (permalink)
Bluesbob Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: East Suffolk L.I. Posts: 1,016 20 Photos	$10.00 more than last time. __________________ What, me worry?