6G2 Princeton is Mine!

PrudyMuskethead · August 14th, 2007, 10:57 AM

I have regretted selling the '62 Brown Princeton I had for the past couple of years and then stumbled upon a nice deal online for a cool transitional "blackface" 6G2 Princeton yesterday...

I think these amps are the bee's knees, so to speak...nice in between tweed tone and BF tone...bell-like but still has that nice tweed mid-range, throaty sound.

As a bonus the Princeton is also equipped with a nice Weber 10f125!

For stage purposes I'm going to be looking out for a nice "12 extension cab as well...anyone have any good recommendations for one in particular?

I'll post some pics of the 6G2 and the NoCaster when the amp arrives next week.

Prudy

tele-martini · August 14th, 2007, 11:15 AM

Congrats on finding a nice amp. I just bought an Epiphone ext.cab for $130 new.It has a 70w 1x12 Eminance Lady Luck Spkr. I'm still breaking mine in but it keeps sounding better everytime I play it.Nice looking if ya want a vintage look. 16 ohm impedance though.
martini

PrudyMuskethead · August 14th, 2007, 11:27 AM

Thanks for the suggestion...I can't remember what ohmage I need...I think it's probably 8.

Prudy

Demo · August 14th, 2007, 11:34 AM

Nice score. Wish I'd kept mine. Those were good amps.

JohnnyCrash · August 14th, 2007, 12:10 PM

8 ohms on the Princeton.

The 6G2 is an awesome circuit, nothing like a tweed - but the sounds is gets can be just like you described.

For the 12" extension, I'd recommend a Jensen P12Q, or better yet a P12N. AlNiCo Jensens always sound great :)

Very cool catch!!! Congrats!

PrudyMuskethead · August 14th, 2007, 12:29 PM

Thanks for the recommendations, JC...

I was thinking of doing an alnico since it is already equipped with a ceramic...then I could have the best of both worlds.

Can't wait to mess around with that killer vibrato!

Prudy

peteb · August 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM

Johnny,

How or why is a 6g2 not "nothing like" like a tweed?

I am not saying it is but it must be somewhat close.

The 6g2 circuit is so much the same as the tweed vibrolux

JohnnyCrash · August 14th, 2007, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by peteb

Johnny,

How or why is a 6g2 not "nothing like" like a tweed?

I am not saying it is but it must be somewhat close.

The 6g2 circuit is so much the same as the tweed vibrolux

It is indeed similar to a tweed Vibrolux.

When most folks say there is a "tweed" or a "blackface" sound, they are referring to a certain characteristic... not just what skin its got on.

A tweed covered Bassman isn't very "tweed" sounding to me... whereas a tweed Vibrolux or a Brown Prince gets closer. Why? Long tailed phase inverter, fixed bias, and some other items.

A cathode biased, split load PI, low watt has that nasty tweed grunt... a fixed bias, long tailed PI has more of a tightness to it.

"Tweed" indicates a more primitive circuit with less efficiency in the power section and PI. Comparing a Brown Prince with a Tweed Prince is like apples and oranges, whereas comparing a Brown Prine to a Tweed Vibrolux is much closer.

I guess its all just semantics... and either statement can be very true.

peteb · August 14th, 2007, 10:16 PM

Thanks Johnny,

I was also thinking that it is all relative and tweeds are dirtier and so on

I would compare the brown prince to the tweed vibrolux because of each having two 6v6s running in AB. I would not compare the brown prince to the tweed prince because of it being 6v6 in class A.

You were kind of stepping on my toes because my 6g2 is my tweed amp or the closest thing to it.

I know the circuits are similar but do not know if they break up the same. I have tried several tweeds and the 6g2 does have its own BAD tone

JohnnyCrash · August 15th, 2007, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by peteb

Thanks Johnny,

I was also thinking that it is all relative and tweeds are dirtier and so on

I would compare the brown prince to the tweed vibrolux because of each having two 6v6s running in AB. I would not compare the brown prince to the tweed prince because of it being 6v6 in class A.

You were kind of stepping on my toes because my 6g2 is my tweed amp or the closest thing to it.

I know the circuits are similar but do not know if they break up the same. I have tried several tweeds and the 6g2 does have its own BAD tone

I don't doubt it. Them brown era amps kicked a lot of @$$.

Sorry, I didn't mean to step on your toes... and I'd bet your amp sounds killer!!

Some folks say a tweed Bassman is "the tweed sound." Others say it's circuits like the 5E3 Deluxe. Same clothing, same era, different design and sounds... so tweed can mean a lot of things to a lot of people and it'd ALL be correct :)

What speaker do you have in your 6G2?

jaydawg · August 15th, 2007, 08:47 AM

Sounds like a great score Prudy. I bet Nocaster and brown Princeton will be tone heaven.

My next build is going to be either a 6G2 or a Z-28.........We'll see.

Shnook · August 16th, 2007, 06:11 AM

I'm loving the 6G2 I picked up last month. It's quickly become my favorite amp!

maestrovert · August 16th, 2007, 06:55 AM

Sounds good to me !

timgreene · August 16th, 2007, 07:10 AM

i am in with a 64. just a great amp. sweet choice.

PrudyMuskethead · August 16th, 2007, 12:05 PM

I can't wait! Should be here tomorrow or Monday...

Prudy

August 14th, 2007, 10:57 AM	#1 (permalink)
PrudyMuskethead Banned TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 75	6G2 Princeton is Mine! I have regretted selling the '62 Brown Princeton I had for the past couple of years and then stumbled upon a nice deal online for a cool transitional "blackface" 6G2 Princeton yesterday... I think these amps are the bee's knees, so to speak...nice in between tweed tone and BF tone...bell-like but still has that nice tweed mid-range, throaty sound. As a bonus the Princeton is also equipped with a nice Weber 10f125! For stage purposes I'm going to be looking out for a nice "12 extension cab as well...anyone have any good recommendations for one in particular? I'll post some pics of the 6G2 and the NoCaster when the amp arrives next week. Prudy

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timgreene Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 1,254 10 Photos	i am in with a 64. just a great amp. sweet choice. __________________ opinions expressed are the view of the author, and are not necesarily correct.

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tele-martini Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hilton, NY Age: 49 Posts: 900 11 Photos	Congrats on finding a nice amp. I just bought an Epiphone ext.cab for $130 new.It has a 70w 1x12 Eminance Lady Luck Spkr. I'm still breaking mine in but it keeps sounding better everytime I play it.Nice looking if ya want a vintage look. 16 ohm impedance though. martini

August 14th, 2007, 11:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
PrudyMuskethead Banned TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 75	Thanks for the suggestion...I can't remember what ohmage I need...I think it's probably 8. Prudy

August 14th, 2007, 11:34 AM	#4 (permalink)
Demo TDPRI Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Reno, NV Age: 55 Posts: 61	Nice score. Wish I'd kept mine. Those were good amps.

August 14th, 2007, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
JohnnyCrash Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County Posts: 7,128	8 ohms on the Princeton. The 6G2 is an awesome circuit, nothing like a tweed - but the sounds is gets can be just like you described. For the 12" extension, I'd recommend a Jensen P12Q, or better yet a P12N. AlNiCo Jensens always sound great :) Very cool catch!!! Congrats!

August 14th, 2007, 12:29 PM	#6 (permalink)
PrudyMuskethead Banned TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 75	Thanks for the recommendations, JC... I was thinking of doing an alnico since it is already equipped with a ceramic...then I could have the best of both worlds. Can't wait to mess around with that killer vibrato! Prudy

August 14th, 2007, 05:11 PM	#7 (permalink)
peteb Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 232	Johnny, How or why is a 6g2 not "nothing like" like a tweed? I am not saying it is but it must be somewhat close. The 6g2 circuit is so much the same as the tweed vibrolux

August 14th, 2007, 10:16 PM	#9 (permalink)
peteb Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 232	Thanks Johnny, I was also thinking that it is all relative and tweeds are dirtier and so on I would compare the brown prince to the tweed vibrolux because of each having two 6v6s running in AB. I would not compare the brown prince to the tweed prince because of it being 6v6 in class A. You were kind of stepping on my toes because my 6g2 is my tweed amp or the closest thing to it. I know the circuits are similar but do not know if they break up the same. I have tried several tweeds and the 6g2 does have its own BAD tone

August 15th, 2007, 08:47 AM	#11 (permalink)
jaydawg Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: York, ME Age: 32 Posts: 504	Sounds like a great score Prudy. I bet Nocaster and brown Princeton will be tone heaven. My next build is going to be either a 6G2 or a Z-28.........We'll see.

August 16th, 2007, 06:11 AM	#12 (permalink)
Shnook Tele-Meister Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Roanoke, VA Posts: 389	I'm loving the 6G2 I picked up last month. It's quickly become my favorite amp!

August 16th, 2007, 12:05 PM	#15 (permalink)
PrudyMuskethead Banned TDPRI Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Seattle Age: 34 Posts: 75	I can't wait! Should be here tomorrow or Monday... Prudy