What would you do? (Cabinet Related)

[mistermullens]

OK, so I've got a Champion 600 and I like it, but it sounds like crap through the stock speaker. Its just too small. However, when I run it through my 10in Lopo cab, its got amazing tone. I'll hit a bend on my Tele and it just sings!! So here's my dilema. As previously mentioned, I own a 10in cab. I also own an Epi VJr, which I love and is the reason I got the cab. I would love to remove the chassis from the C600 and install it in a 12in combo. I've been looking at some Tweed Deluxe cabs from Mojo, and they do "chassis cut out" modifications. At the same time, I'd like to get the matching cab for my Epi. Now I could get a 2x10 Lopo cab, a matching speaker, wire it for 4 ohms, and sit both amps on top. What to do?

[winny pooh]

...you can make and install a new, solid baffle board on the 600 for a 10" speaker and problem solved!

[studio1087]

Pull the baffle out of the 600.

can you fit a 10" speaker in the baffle size?

Here are the outer dimensions......

Dimensions:
Height: 11 inches (28 cm)
Width: 12 inches (31 cm)
Depth: 7.5 inches (19 cm)

12 inches wide - the cabinet wood is probably 3/4" - a 10" speaker could fit. make a whole new baffle and you could put the old baffle back in if you want to change it back.

[mistermullens]

Originally Posted by studio1087

Pull the baffle out of the 600.

can you fit a 10" speaker in the baffle size?

Here are the outer dimensions......

Dimensions:
Height: 11 inches (28 cm)
Width: 12 inches (31 cm)
Depth: 7.5 inches (19 cm)

12 inches wide - the cabinet wood is probably 3/4" - a 10" speaker could fit. make a whole new baffle and you could put the old baffle back in if you want to change it back.

Could it actually work? My interest is truly peaked!! That would also save me a ton of money. Thanks for the suggestion!

[mistermullens]

I just tried to size it up, and a 10in speaker won't fit. There's just not enough room. I may consider an 8in speaker, but I may still go with one of my original plans.

[JohnnyCrash]

Keep the C600 as a combo. Portable tone is always more valuable than you think.

You could also build your own 1x12" combo cab - its not that hard.

[mistermullens]

Thanks Johnny. That's what I'm leaning toward. I unfortunately don't have the tools or area to do so right now. Its a little tough to build something like that in an apartment.

[JohnnyCrash]

Ah, apartments... I'm glad I no longer live in one for the build factor - but now I've gotta listen to my neighbors mariachi music being cranked to high heaven! HAHA

If you want a 12" over a 10" I couldn't recommend Mojo more - they have great cabs that are pretty affordable and fast in shipping... call em, don't email em. Let them know the dimensions of the chassis, what amp it is, and what you're looking to do.


And above all...




Post pics when you're done!!!

[Jeru]

Jcrash and/or others:

What particular web resources might you recommend to guide a novice through how to go about building a cabinet? I would need to know about proper construction techniques, tools needed, etc.

I know I could do it, just don't know if I could do it WELL (that is, something I'd enjoy looking at, something that wouldn't fall apart, etc.) I'd much rather fork over the few hundred bucks to a good builder than spend money on materials and (probably) tools and build something that looked crappy anyhow.

Thanks.

[JohnnyCrash]

Originally Posted by Jeru

Jcrash and/or others:

What particular web resources might you recommend to guide a novice through how to go about building a cabinet? I would need to know about proper construction techniques, tools needed, etc.

I know I could do it, just don't know if I could do it WELL (that is, something I'd enjoy looking at, something that wouldn't fall apart, etc.) I'd much rather fork over the few hundred bucks to a good builder than spend money on materials and (probably) tools and build something that looked crappy anyhow.

Thanks.

I never really used any resources. Every now and then I'd look at photos to get my bearings, but otherwise, it all sort of "makes sense."

For instance, fingerjoint jigs usually have instructions, but if like me, you don't read them, it is still sort of obvious how the jig sorta works. Tolex is all seams and corners, so you may want to practise with paper towels and tape or something first... look at photos to see how to handle seams and corners (something I still suck at).

I use a 3/4" wide router bit set about 1/4" deep to make cleats for panel/baffle mounts. I then glue a 3"4 thick piece of wood in the channel and clamp it till dry. I then rear mount the front baffles to the cleats with screws.

Once everything is dry and putty'ed and sanded, I use a round corner router bit on the cab's corners (except for the backside, like Fenders).

Half blind dovetail joints like Rob DiStefano uses... well, that is something I can't wrap my head (or jig) around! His cabs look really cool and are actual crasftman material there!

[vic108]

Originally Posted by JohnnyCrash

Keep the C600 as a combo. Portable tone is always more valuable than you think.

You could also build your own 1x12" combo cab - its not that hard.

Yah, JC is right (again!).

Give me a combo anyday!

[Flashback]

Man you could totally build a cabinet that size in an apartment!

I have built 4x12s for buddies in COLLEGE dorms. :D Glued and Tolexed and then cranked them with a Marshall head to high heaven!