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tdu · January 27th, 2007, 02:39 PM

I was just curious about the total characteristics of a Harvard compared to the 2 tweed amps I do know the sound which are Deluxe and Champs.

I assume they have some relation to a Tweed Champ based on the circuit number? One I get more clean headroom from one?

Thanks

Wally · January 27th, 2007, 03:03 PM

2X6V6's, 10 watts, 10"...some maybe shipped with 8",
somewhere between the Champ and Deluxe.

David Barnett · January 27th, 2007, 03:04 PM

The Harvard is sort of like a tweed version of a BF Princeton. It's more "refined" than a Champ, but still sounds "smaller" than a Deluxe.

brads · January 27th, 2007, 03:42 PM

It's an often-overlooked tweed model.

Mine was a raging beast and weighed nothing.

tdu · January 27th, 2007, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Barnett

The Harvard is sort of like a tweed version of a BF Princeton. It's more "refined" than a Champ, but still sounds "smaller" than a Deluxe.

By refined do you mean a little less gritty at high volumes?

So far it sounds like the type of amp I am looking for. Thanks for the input so far.

Booman · January 27th, 2007, 04:24 PM

Pretty much the same as the Vibrolux tweed w/o the trem. Used a 6AV6 instead of a 12AX7 (Vibrolux) in the pre amp stage. A 6AT6 replaced the 6VA6in later models. (lower gain) Both were interchangable. A nice way to change the voice of the amp. 6AV6=gain. 6AT6=cleaner,more headroom. I'm no expert (got this info from the book) but I've played one and it's my favorite small tweed. Like David said more refined. Actually the least "tweed like" of the tweeds in a good way. My choice for a good jazz amp. A few years ago I had the chance to buy a straight and clean '58 for 9 bills and passed thinking it was a bit steep. Maybe it was but I still think about and regret my decision. Just my 2 cents.

Boo

59slab · January 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM

I own a 59 Harvard. Great amp. Lots more definition than a champ, nice breakup after 7. Not really gig worthy unless miked. Incredible in the studio. If I left it alone in a room with my 59 deluxe the deluxe would eat it alive though.

mellecaster · January 27th, 2007, 11:54 PM

I bought a New 59 Harvard when I was a Teenager...sold it shortly thereafter..cause we thought the more knobs and inputs there were...the better the Amp.....if only........

Rob DiStefano · January 28th, 2007, 06:25 AM

A 15w Winfield Amps "Harvard", based on the 5F10 but with s/s recto, in a pine cab w/Weber 15F150. A very large sound, lotsa fat tone, breaks up into tweed heaven when pushed Very Hard.

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tdu Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 33 Posts: 2,832 11 Photos	Can you guys give me some info on Harvards? I was just curious about the total characteristics of a Harvard compared to the 2 tweed amps I do know the sound which are Deluxe and Champs. I assume they have some relation to a Tweed Champ based on the circuit number? One I get more clean headroom from one? Thanks __________________ Torn Down Units brand Rock n' Roll My Solo Stuff:

January 27th, 2007, 04:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Booman Tele-Meister Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Cali Posts: 442 20 Photos	Pretty much the same as the Vibrolux tweed w/o the trem. Used a 6AV6 instead of a 12AX7 (Vibrolux) in the pre amp stage. A 6AT6 replaced the 6VA6in later models. (lower gain) Both were interchangable. A nice way to change the voice of the amp. 6AV6=gain. 6AT6=cleaner,more headroom. I'm no expert (got this info from the book) but I've played one and it's my favorite small tweed. Like David said more refined. Actually the least "tweed like" of the tweeds in a good way. My choice for a good jazz amp. A few years ago I had the chance to buy a straight and clean '58 for 9 bills and passed thinking it was a bit steep. Maybe it was but I still think about and regret my decision. Just my 2 cents. Boo __________________ Now go do the voodoo that you do sooo well...

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mellecaster VENDOR Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 7,656 17 Photos	I bought a New 59 Harvard when I was a Teenager...sold it shortly thereafter..cause we thought the more knobs and inputs there were...the better the Amp.....if only........ __________________ Expert Repair....ReCrafting...and Set-ups Making your World a Better Place...One Guitar at a time

January 27th, 2007, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wally Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 6,010	2X6V6's, 10 watts, 10"...some maybe shipped with 8", somewhere between the Champ and Deluxe.

January 27th, 2007, 03:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: The Far-Flung Isles of Langerhans Age: 53 Posts: 6,061	The Harvard is sort of like a tweed version of a BF Princeton. It's more "refined" than a Champ, but still sounds "smaller" than a Deluxe.

January 27th, 2007, 03:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
brads TDPRI Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 33	It's an often-overlooked tweed model. Mine was a raging beast and weighed nothing.

January 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
59slab TDPRI Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vermont Posts: 8	I own a 59 Harvard. Great amp. Lots more definition than a champ, nice breakup after 7. Not really gig worthy unless miked. Incredible in the studio. If I left it alone in a room with my 59 deluxe the deluxe would eat it alive though.

January 28th, 2007, 06:25 AM	#9 (permalink)
Rob DiStefano Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Park Ridge, NJ Age: 63 Posts: 5,156	A 15w Winfield Amps "Harvard", based on the 5F10 but with s/s recto, in a pine cab w/Weber 15F150. A very large sound, lotsa fat tone, breaks up into tweed heaven when pushed Very Hard.

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