Hello to all, and what would you do?

boogster · October 13th, 2006, 10:48 PM

Hi everyone, I have been checking out this website for quite some time, but this is my first post. Computers and myself are just starting to undestand each other

I am in a quandry and I know there is mountains of knowledge in this forum so I ask for you opinions and help. I have a shot at 2 great amps i've played them both and can't decide what to do, they both are about the same price, but can only get one, 1st is a 1996 vox ac/30 re-issue first class, class a handwired amp, great amp but here is the kicker, this one is red I have done some research on the net and found plenty of purple ones, a yellow one, but have yet to see a red one anywhere. the other amp is a Dr.Z MAZ 38Sr both of them are 2x12 combos and in my opinion excellent amps. the thing that has got me is the red vox, I have never in my life seen one, does anyone have any knowledge of these? Please help me make up my mind. Thanks

aznrambo481 · October 13th, 2006, 11:02 PM

I, as a Queen fan, would go for the Vox

'caster oil · October 13th, 2006, 11:19 PM

Hey, welcome.

Vox.

Next question?

Cheers,

CountryShawn · October 14th, 2006, 12:03 AM

A '96 Vox vs a Dr. Z Maz 38???

Personally, I wouldn't skip a heartbeat - the Z for sure.
For sooo many reasons....

Don't listen to us - try them yourself and see what you think.
You're the key ingredient here.

Shawn

endzone · October 14th, 2006, 12:09 AM

Check out Brad Paisley's website and gear. He plays both Vox AC30's (red) and Dr. Z. Wish I could help you out, but you're on your own on this one. I don't think you can make a bad choice.
http://www.bradpaisley.com/index.php...0&content=gear

JohnnyCrash · October 14th, 2006, 12:42 AM

endzone is right... if you pick either of those amps, you'll be sittin pretty!

I like classic designs... but I also like freakish colors or abnormal looks on said classic designs, so I would go for the Vox almost on looks alone :)

Welcome to the forum! You'll start to realize we're all freaks just like you (if you haven't already figured that out).

boogster · October 16th, 2006, 11:37 PM

Thanks for the kind welcome, and just to let ya'll know I opted for the vox this time around, both are awsome amps and the Z is still something I will obtain later. For now my desicion was based on the fact that I felt this particular amp was a rare find,one shot deal. I will try to send pics if I can figure out how to do it. Thanks again

Dacious · October 16th, 2006, 11:50 PM

Don't want to dissapoint you, but the mid 90's AC30s were a PCB amp, not handwired. The only handwired Voxes of recent years came out in about 2003 - they are actually labelled AC30HW and came as a combo or head/cab. The AC30HW has only one top-boosted channel and tube-driven reverb. They retailed for over $2000 in the US.

AC30's also aren't class A - not that it matters, anyhow. Virtually no guitar amps today apart from single-powertube amps, which all are. I think there is one Dr Z model (Maserati?) and possibly one other amp with more than one power tube which is.

The AC30, 15 watt Fenders, Gibson or Velocette 15s, Peavey Classics etc are all push-pull class AB amps like Fender, Marshall and other multi-tube amps, not class A amps as the ads might say.

However, what they sound like is far more important than what class they operate in.

Of the reissue amps, the Korg AC30s (which is what you have - made in the Marshall factory in England which Korg also own) are some of the better ones, especially with Celestion Blues. And the coloured ones are certainly rarer.

telecaster69 · October 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM

go with your ears.....doesn't matter what's in them.......play both of them..but I think your ears will like both....Get both and then get an AB switcher...that would be a killer set up...if it was me though....I would personally have to go with the DR. Z amp.

boogster · October 18th, 2006, 12:57 AM

thanks for the insight on these amps, I found out about the printed circuit board and all that stuff prior to buying it. I did'nt buy it when I first saw it for that reason (reasearch). Can you believe a salseman would lie to you.

I took my findings back to the store and saved$$$$$, based on false info. It all worked out. No way am I dissapointed.

David Barnett · October 18th, 2006, 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dacious

I think there is one Dr Z model (Maserati?) and possibly one other amp with more than one power tube which is.

Nope, Dr. Z's push-pull amps aren't any more "Class-A" than an AC30.

David Barnett · October 18th, 2006, 03:01 AM

Between those two amplifiers, you couldn't have made a bad choice either way. Congratulations on the new toy.

October 13th, 2006, 10:48 PM	#1 (permalink)
boogster TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: plant city Fl Posts: 21	Hello to all, and what would you do? Hi everyone, I have been checking out this website for quite some time, but this is my first post. Computers and myself are just starting to undestand each other I am in a quandry and I know there is mountains of knowledge in this forum so I ask for you opinions and help. I have a shot at 2 great amps i've played them both and can't decide what to do, they both are about the same price, but can only get one, 1st is a 1996 vox ac/30 re-issue first class, class a handwired amp, great amp but here is the kicker, this one is red I have done some research on the net and found plenty of purple ones, a yellow one, but have yet to see a red one anywhere. the other amp is a Dr.Z MAZ 38Sr both of them are 2x12 combos and in my opinion excellent amps. the thing that has got me is the red vox, I have never in my life seen one, does anyone have any knowledge of these? Please help me make up my mind. Thanks

October 13th, 2006, 11:02 PM	#2 (permalink)
aznrambo481 Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla, California Age: 17 Posts: 2,884 6 Photos	I, as a Queen fan, would go for the Vox __________________ Check out my bands, and feel free to PM me comments on them! The Eclectics (guitar/vocals) SLIP (bass)

October 14th, 2006, 12:03 AM	#4 (permalink)
CountryShawn Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Age: 37 Posts: 621	A '96 Vox vs a Dr. Z Maz 38??? Personally, I wouldn't skip a heartbeat - the Z for sure. For sooo many reasons.... Don't listen to us - try them yourself and see what you think. You're the key ingredient here. Shawn __________________ --------

October 14th, 2006, 12:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
endzone Tele-Afflicted Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Louisiana Age: 52 Posts: 1,688 32 Photos	Check out Brad Paisley's website and gear. He plays both Vox AC30's (red) and Dr. Z. Wish I could help you out, but you're on your own on this one. I don't think you can make a bad choice. http://www.bradpaisley.com/index.php...0&content=gear __________________ *I'm Makin Progress*

October 16th, 2006, 11:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
boogster TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: plant city Fl Posts: 21	had to choose Thanks for the kind welcome, and just to let ya'll know I opted for the vox this time around, both are awsome amps and the Z is still something I will obtain later. For now my desicion was based on the fact that I felt this particular amp was a rare find,one shot deal. I will try to send pics if I can figure out how to do it. Thanks again

October 13th, 2006, 11:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
'caster oil Tele-Holic Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 692 1 Photos	Hey, welcome. Vox. Next question? Cheers,

October 14th, 2006, 12:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
JohnnyCrash Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County Posts: 7,128	endzone is right... if you pick either of those amps, you'll be sittin pretty! I like classic designs... but I also like freakish colors or abnormal looks on said classic designs, so I would go for the Vox almost on looks alone :) Welcome to the forum! You'll start to realize we're all freaks just like you (if you haven't already figured that out).

October 16th, 2006, 11:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dacious Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Godzone Posts: 2,623 35 Photos	Don't want to dissapoint you, but the mid 90's AC30s were a PCB amp, not handwired. The only handwired Voxes of recent years came out in about 2003 - they are actually labelled AC30HW and came as a combo or head/cab. The AC30HW has only one top-boosted channel and tube-driven reverb. They retailed for over $2000 in the US. AC30's also aren't class A - not that it matters, anyhow. Virtually no guitar amps today apart from single-powertube amps, which all are. I think there is one Dr Z model (Maserati?) and possibly one other amp with more than one power tube which is. The AC30, 15 watt Fenders, Gibson or Velocette 15s, Peavey Classics etc are all push-pull class AB amps like Fender, Marshall and other multi-tube amps, not class A amps as the ads might say. However, what they sound like is far more important than what class they operate in. Of the reissue amps, the Korg AC30s (which is what you have - made in the Marshall factory in England which Korg also own) are some of the better ones, especially with Celestion Blues. And the coloured ones are certainly rarer. __________________ My other Telecaster is a Thinline The Tele Bible, Ch 1, v 10 Love thy Telecaster, covet not thy neighbour's Strat!

October 17th, 2006, 12:58 AM	#9 (permalink)
telecaster69 Tele-Meister Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Chico, CA Age: 34 Posts: 261	go with your ears.....doesn't matter what's in them.......play both of them..but I think your ears will like both....Get both and then get an AB switcher...that would be a killer set up...if it was me though....I would personally have to go with the DR. Z amp. __________________ Taylor 310 Acoustic with LR Baggs ibeam. Gold Tuners with Ebony buttons 2004 Telecaster w/hotrails, lckng tuners Fender Powerchorus Amp 2x12" Aphex Aural Exciter pedal HBE Big D distortion pedal.

October 18th, 2006, 12:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
boogster TDPRI Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: plant city Fl Posts: 21	armed with info thanks for the insight on these amps, I found out about the printed circuit board and all that stuff prior to buying it. I did'nt buy it when I first saw it for that reason (reasearch). Can you believe a salseman would lie to you. I took my findings back to the store and saved$$$$$, based on false info. It all worked out. No way am I dissapointed.

October 18th, 2006, 03:01 AM	#12 (permalink)
David Barnett Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: LIttle Rock, AR Age: 52 Posts: 5,494	Between those two amplifiers, you couldn't have made a bad choice either way. Congratulations on the new toy.