New amps in our house

Rich Rice · October 7th, 2006, 11:12 PM

Wow. Chris bought a VOX AD30VT. Then his brother bought a AD50VT. Last night I went and got another AD30VT.

I have been anti modeling amps until I heard these. A bit of a learning curve, but really useful sounds, and lots of bang for the bucks. Perfect amp for teaching. I don't think I'd gig it, but it sure has been fun finding all the bells and whistles. Rockin' little box!

JohnnyCrash · October 7th, 2006, 11:31 PM

I'd gig it if I were in a top 40 cover band or something. Having that many amps at your fingertips in one box could be usefull for SOME live projects, even if the digital modeling isn't dead-on like the original.

You've got to have a family-wide amp budget that is staggering! HAHAHA

Thanks for your thoughts on the amp, you're almost convincing me to go out and get one now...

Rich Rice · October 8th, 2006, 12:06 AM

Well, we have had some success with the building biz, and I still teach 4 evenings per week. I'm tired of the limitations during lessons where my standard amp has been a Crate 15 watter with reverb. This Vox opens a ton of possibilities to light up my students, and eclipses the other modeling amps I've seen. It might be useful in recording situations, too. That remains to be seen. There is a line out on the back, (which I haven't fooled with yet), but it occurs that it may be possible to plug that into my Gallien Krueger RB800's effects return. If so, I could conceivably run it at 350 watts rms, biamped through 3 Bag End 15" cabs.. Holy cow...

...Talk about headroom... I'm almost afraid to try it...

JohnnyCrash · October 8th, 2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich@wildriceband.com

If so, I could conceivably run it at 350 watts rms, biamped through 3 Bag End 15" cabs.. Holy cow...

...Talk about headroom... I'm almost afraid to try it...

You are a very sick man...

You could use that to remove paint from your local bars when you gig with that kind of monster.

Now you definitely have to try it :)

sidneystreet · October 8th, 2006, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Rich@wildriceband.com

...I have been anti modeling amps until I heard these. A bit of a learning curve, but really useful sounds, and lots of bang for the bucks...

The modelers are just too cool to completely ignore. Sure, they aren't perfect. But when used for quiet computer recording, practice, lessons, etc. they are very hard to beat.

Rick Towne · October 8th, 2006, 03:04 AM

Hi Chris:

I'm glad the 50 arrived ok. I've kept a 30 for "emergencies".

Rick

Melody · October 8th, 2006, 11:19 AM

One thing bout the AD30VT is the line out sounds completely different than the the output for the speaker it by passes the tube in the power section.Something to keep in mind when you get around to recording this amp.

Rich Rice · October 8th, 2006, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Melody

One thing bout the AD30VT is the line out sounds completely different than the the output for the speaker it by passes the tube in the power section.Something to keep in mind when you get around to recording this amp.

Have you tried it? I haven't even checked to see if the line out works yet...

fungusyoung · October 8th, 2006, 11:32 AM

I got some amazing tones out of my AD30VT this week while practicing loudly with the band. The other guitarist was driving a 100 watt Marshall with a Les Paul, and the drummer hits hard.... but I was getting some unbelievable sounds through the AC15 setting with a 72 Thinline RI.

There is definitely a learning curve with these amps, but I'm happy to learn more about it's capabilities the more I push it.

Rich Rice · October 8th, 2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Towne

Hi Chris:

I'm glad the 50 arrived ok. I've kept a 30 for "emergencies".

Rick

Hi Rick

My son, Andy, is thrilled with the 50 watter. Thanks again!

Rich

Melody · October 8th, 2006, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rich@wildriceband.com

Have you tried it? I haven't even checked to see if the line out works yet...

Yea I've tried it sounds nothing like speaker out modeling the tube warmth just is'ent there.I hav'ent tweaked it much but I'm working on it I do have some recording to do this afternoon.

I'm going to try all the models and see witch ones sounds good I'll get back with ya...Have fun they are the best of the model offering so far I think anyway.But thats not saying much.

On a side note: I don't think the 50 is wired the same way you may want to try that one first and then the 30 and see if I am correct.

Melody · October 12th, 2006, 08:16 PM

Hey have you had time to do any recording yet?Iwould like to know if the 50 is the same as the 30 as far as the line out for recording,Thanks for any help.

Rich Rice · October 12th, 2006, 10:24 PM

No, I took the 30 watter to work, and don't really have the time right now. I am curious as well, but too much on my plate right now.

Rich

Tremo · October 12th, 2006, 10:53 PM

The biggest problem with the lower power computer amps is they totally get lost in the mix at live gigs. Just buried. The only computer amp I've heard that was able to keep it's head above water at a live gig was a Cyber Twin, and it sounded like poop.

YMMV.

Melody · October 13th, 2006, 08:49 AM

Well I'm not looking to gig the amp I have tube amps for that it just want to record some.

Rich Rice · October 13th, 2006, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Melody

Well I'm not looking to gig the amp I have tube amps for that it just want to record some.

ditto. I wanted mine for teaching in a small (closet size) practice room.

October 7th, 2006, 11:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rich Rice Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dream world.. Just ask my wife. Age: 53 Posts: 2,551 11 Photos	New amps in our house Wow. Chris bought a VOX AD30VT. Then his brother bought a AD50VT. Last night I went and got another AD30VT. I have been anti modeling amps until I heard these. A bit of a learning curve, but really useful sounds, and lots of bang for the bucks. Perfect amp for teaching. I don't think I'd gig it, but it sure has been fun finding all the bells and whistles. Rockin' little box! __________________ Please visit my website! If you are driven to play, you will find a way.

October 8th, 2006, 12:06 AM	#3 (permalink)
Rich Rice Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dream world.. Just ask my wife. Age: 53 Posts: 2,551 11 Photos	Well, we have had some success with the building biz, and I still teach 4 evenings per week. I'm tired of the limitations during lessons where my standard amp has been a Crate 15 watter with reverb. This Vox opens a ton of possibilities to light up my students, and eclipses the other modeling amps I've seen. It might be useful in recording situations, too. That remains to be seen. There is a line out on the back, (which I haven't fooled with yet), but it occurs that it may be possible to plug that into my Gallien Krueger RB800's effects return. If so, I could conceivably run it at 350 watts rms, biamped through 3 Bag End 15" cabs.. Holy cow... ...Talk about headroom... I'm almost afraid to try it... __________________ Please visit my website! If you are driven to play, you will find a way.

October 12th, 2006, 10:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Rich Rice Friend of Leo's Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: In a dream world.. Just ask my wife. Age: 53 Posts: 2,551 11 Photos	No, I took the 30 watter to work, and don't really have the time right now. I am curious as well, but too much on my plate right now. Rich __________________ Please visit my website! If you are driven to play, you will find a way.

October 7th, 2006, 11:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
JohnnyCrash Poster Extraordinaire Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lost Angeles and Orange County Posts: 7,128	I'd gig it if I were in a top 40 cover band or something. Having that many amps at your fingertips in one box could be usefull for SOME live projects, even if the digital modeling isn't dead-on like the original. You've got to have a family-wide amp budget that is staggering! HAHAHA Thanks for your thoughts on the amp, you're almost convincing me to go out and get one now...

October 8th, 2006, 03:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
Rick Towne Tele-Holic Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Woodland Hills, CA Posts: 818	Hi Chris: I'm glad the 50 arrived ok. I've kept a 30 for "emergencies". Rick

October 8th, 2006, 11:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
Melody TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80 6 Photos	One thing bout the AD30VT is the line out sounds completely different than the the output for the speaker it by passes the tube in the power section.Something to keep in mind when you get around to recording this amp.

October 8th, 2006, 11:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
fungusyoung Tele-Holic Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 930 22 Photos	I got some amazing tones out of my AD30VT this week while practicing loudly with the band. The other guitarist was driving a 100 watt Marshall with a Les Paul, and the drummer hits hard.... but I was getting some unbelievable sounds through the AC15 setting with a 72 Thinline RI. There is definitely a learning curve with these amps, but I'm happy to learn more about it's capabilities the more I push it.

October 12th, 2006, 08:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
Melody TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80 6 Photos	Hey have you had time to do any recording yet?Iwould like to know if the 50 is the same as the 30 as far as the line out for recording,Thanks for any help.

October 12th, 2006, 10:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Tremo Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Silicon Valley, CA, USA Posts: 3,734	The biggest problem with the lower power computer amps is they totally get lost in the mix at live gigs. Just buried. The only computer amp I've heard that was able to keep it's head above water at a live gig was a Cyber Twin, and it sounded like poop. YMMV.

October 13th, 2006, 08:49 AM	#15 (permalink)
Melody TDPRI Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 80 6 Photos	Well I'm not looking to gig the amp I have tube amps for that it just want to record some.