Will this damage collectability ?

sandman72202 · May 17th, 2006, 03:41 PM

have been thinking about rigging my VC to take an extension cab. I have a female plugg and the connectors to do it the sloppy way, but i was thinking of just having it done cleanly and having one installed. i talked with a tech and he said its an easy mod.
i know from a players standpoint....its a positive...no brainer there. but from a collector's standpoint ( if i ever decide to sell it) will it effect the value of it.
it seems to me like upgrading to a better speaker like a weber...this would be a plus.
any collectors out there with some input before i butcher this thing ?

Wally · May 17th, 2006, 03:53 PM

That OT on that Vibrochamp wants to see a 4 ohm load.
General consensus is that you do not want to mismatch that transformer. IF that amp were mine, no matter what I did, I would run a 4 ohm load and nothing else with that amp. That would mean that there is no way to run another speaker along with the in-cab speaker...at least, not in my opinion. You could leave the in-cab speaker disconnected and run another cabinet with the amp...as long as the total load from that cab was 4 ohms....2X 8 ohms in parallel, 4X16 ohms in parallel.
And, yes, non-original holes in the chassis would lower value.

sandman72202 · May 17th, 2006, 03:56 PM

i'll do it the sloppy way and connect the speaker input wires to a female jack....
i was just thinking of doing it neat and clean.

thnx wally

Dacious · May 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM

You can do what I did: found a way to attach an l-shaped bracket off existing screws with a switching jack hiding behind the back panel. With nothing plugged in it the jack just acts like part of the original wires to the internal speaker. With a cabinet plugged in the internal speaker -ve is removed so it is not connected.

Echoing what Wally said - also beware you will get more volume out of larger speakers, but it will still lack somewhat in the bass dept adn won't compete with a cranked 20 or larger watt amp . 6 watts is still 6 watts.

Often it's preferrable to mic a small amp.

PhatTele · May 18th, 2006, 09:51 AM

I wouldn't worry about it and put in a standard 1/4" jack in place of the RCA jack that's in there now. It's a direct replacement. You don't need to enlarge any holes or do any drilling. You will have to replace or rewire the speaker cable to a regular plug, but that's no big deal either. It's all reversable. That said, set all that extra stuff in a baggy out of the way, because you'll never go back to stock once you put in the new jack.

What you end up with is a small amp that you can use like a head. I just pull the internal speaker cable and then run a cable from the jack to a 2x10 or 2x12 external cab. BF and SF Champs/VibroChamps sound HUGE through an external cab.

Wally · May 18th, 2006, 10:20 AM

You've never heard the biggest small amp until you plug a Champ into an 8X10 Marshall cab....

May 17th, 2006, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
sandman72202 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas, currently on walkabout Posts: 470	Will this damage collectability ? have been thinking about rigging my VC to take an extension cab. I have a female plugg and the connectors to do it the sloppy way, but i was thinking of just having it done cleanly and having one installed. i talked with a tech and he said its an easy mod. i know from a players standpoint....its a positive...no brainer there. but from a collector's standpoint ( if i ever decide to sell it) will it effect the value of it. it seems to me like upgrading to a better speaker like a weber...this would be a plus. any collectors out there with some input before i butcher this thing ?

May 17th, 2006, 03:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
sandman72202 Tele-Meister Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Arkansas, currently on walkabout Posts: 470	well..i guess that answers it.. i'll do it the sloppy way and connect the speaker input wires to a female jack.... i was just thinking of doing it neat and clean. thnx wally

May 17th, 2006, 07:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dacious Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Godzone Posts: 2,611 35 Photos	You can do what I did: found a way to attach an l-shaped bracket off existing screws with a switching jack hiding behind the back panel. With nothing plugged in it the jack just acts like part of the original wires to the internal speaker. With a cabinet plugged in the internal speaker -ve is removed so it is not connected. Echoing what Wally said - also beware you will get more volume out of larger speakers, but it will still lack somewhat in the bass dept adn won't compete with a cranked 20 or larger watt amp . 6 watts is still 6 watts. Often it's preferrable to mic a small amp. __________________ My other Telecaster is a Thinline The Tele Bible, Ch 1, v 10 Love thy Telecaster, covet not thy neighbour's Strat!

May 17th, 2006, 03:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wally Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,646	That OT on that Vibrochamp wants to see a 4 ohm load. General consensus is that you do not want to mismatch that transformer. IF that amp were mine, no matter what I did, I would run a 4 ohm load and nothing else with that amp. That would mean that there is no way to run another speaker along with the in-cab speaker...at least, not in my opinion. You could leave the in-cab speaker disconnected and run another cabinet with the amp...as long as the total load from that cab was 4 ohms....2X 8 ohms in parallel, 4X16 ohms in parallel. And, yes, non-original holes in the chassis would lower value.

May 18th, 2006, 09:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
PhatTele Tele-Holic Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 687	I wouldn't worry about it and put in a standard 1/4" jack in place of the RCA jack that's in there now. It's a direct replacement. You don't need to enlarge any holes or do any drilling. You will have to replace or rewire the speaker cable to a regular plug, but that's no big deal either. It's all reversable. That said, set all that extra stuff in a baggy out of the way, because you'll never go back to stock once you put in the new jack. What you end up with is a small amp that you can use like a head. I just pull the internal speaker cable and then run a cable from the jack to a 2x10 or 2x12 external cab. BF and SF Champs/VibroChamps sound HUGE through an external cab.

May 18th, 2006, 10:20 AM	#6 (permalink)
Wally Friend of Leo's Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,646	You've never heard the biggest small amp until you plug a Champ into an 8X10 Marshall cab....